what a tooele

Castillo-Galindo faces one count of kidnapping.

Ummm, that's it? Usually they slap every charge they can on there...

Dead for Tax Reasons: what a tooele

first choice of comment.. came for this.. farkers (almost) never let me down..
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fusillade762: Well, looks like *somebody* isn't getting their deposit back.

Which one? The second one will probably be much more expensive !

It's Utah, I thought 14 was "old enough" for them.

18 years old is not a man. You can't even buy booze. Also, if he's 18 now, chances are they were both underage when the relationship started. Thus it shouldn't be illegal.

They should both be charged as minors here.

I had an asshole tenant take a marble fireplace mantle. Others have taken drapes and curtains.

fusillade762: Well, looks like *somebody* isn't getting their deposit back.

I don't know. I'm pretty sure the damages have to be related to the apartment. I mean, you can't even commingle that shiat with rent. Docking it for kidnapping has to be against some rule somewhere.

iheartscotch: he'd still be up shiat creek.

Your logic is missing one key ingredient.

I said SHOULD. The law should be changed in almost every sense in America. We have too many laws in general and half of them are retarded.

Is pedastry wrong? Yes. Is love? Now we're in the gist of it.

She's less than 5 years younger. She agreed to go with him. He's barely old enough to shave. What we should do is sit them down and give them both a good talking to, possibly indenture the boy to the state for a few months of trade work and let things cool.

If there IS love there, then the laws should make provisions to mitigate any kind of punishments that MIGHT be incurred by real kidnapping. I'd rather have the kids who think they love one another given a second chance after a comedy of errors like this than crown prisons with people who should just be stuck on front page of Fark.com or similar and forced to be "that guy" for a few weeks in the news and then given a second chance to not be a complete idiot.

Then there's the problem of people like Sandarsky, the real pedos. My rehabilitation program from France is 100% effective and prevents re-offense 100% of the time. They called it "la guillotine" and it's a one step program that has never failed to stop the offensive behavior.

Oh but for a crack at fixing the legal system.

doglover: Then there's the problem of people like Sandarsky, the real pedos. My rehabilitation program from France is 100% effective and prevents re-offense 100% of the time. They called it "la guillotine" and it's a one step program that has never failed to stop the offensive behavior.

Oh but for a crack at fixing the legal system.

One of the problems with capital punishment is the inability to go back and fix a mistake like a wrongful conviction.

Something for you to ponder.

The article says that she's younger than 14.
She could be 10 for all we know.

According to this article (new window) the girl is 13-years old & told Wyoming authorities that she might be pregnant.

Also, according to the above article, the guy has listed his age as being 18 and 24.

Either way, he's in deep, deep shiat if he got a 13-year old girl pregnant. Being illegal is the least of his worries.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: doglover: Then there's the problem of people like Sandarsky, the real pedos. My rehabilitation program from France is 100% effective and prevents re-offense 100% of the time. They called it "la guillotine" and it's a one step program that has never failed to stop the offensive behavior.

Oh but for a crack at fixing the legal system.

One of the problems with capital punishment is the inability to go back and fix a mistake like a wrongful conviction.

Something for you to ponder.

It's not that hard to rightfully convict. If you're not sure, don't bother.

Also, I'd have plenty petty crimes simply off the books entirely. Can't clog the system if there's not enough crime to go around. Also, lawyers would be put out of work somehow. My system would be as cut and dry as possible. The latin especially would all go. As would single judges and divorce courts.

MurphyMurphy: All divorces will be settled by a knife fight to the death.

Actually I'm a fan of judicial duels. Read through Game of Thrones. Sometimes the truest justice is a farce.

If both parties consent at the beginning and third parties ensure a proper degree of fairness, a test of skill is far preferable to an actual trial where things like facts and laws and precedent come into play.

You get out there with your club and she gets out there with her rock in a sock, you climb in your hole and farkin' game on. Is it a fair system? Not really. Has is worked before? Yes. Is it funny as hell and better than our current system? Yes.

iheartscotch: / I do like your solutions to divorce and pedos though.

What about the re-introduction of German judicial duels? I think it would save a ton of time and money on the part of the courts to just let two people decided they don't want justice or the best possible outcome, but rather to hit one another very hard until one of them says "Uncle." It's not justice, it's SPORT.

As for the girl, I deal with 14 year olds all freakin' day. They're not stupid, they're ignorant. They know what they're doing, even if they're not aware of a great deal of the consequences of that. If you want to know what happened, separate them and once she's alone the truth will out.

Besides, I'm not saying he should face no consequences, I'm saying he shouldn't be charged as an adult if this was all consensual. Besides, most people who've never been out of their area want to go to Mexico or something like that. It's "foreign" and that makes it like Mecca or something to their souls. I'd bet you lead to gold she at least wanted to see this man, consensual or straight kidnap.

doglover: Oh but for a crack at fixing the legal system.





Have fun with that.

iheartscotch: stockholm syndrome

I've always been a bit incredulous on peoples surprise at this. Our ancestors would have yielded tribal power regularly in violent takeovers. Not daily, but often enough. A tribe that fought the newcomer to the death would die out. Tribes that accepted and eventually empathized with the conqueror would survive and potentially thrive. It seems a pretty basic part of our nature.

Humans are nothing if not deferent. We whine a lot, but we generally get in line.

LOTN: Have fun with that.

Approximately 4,300 child molesters were released from prisons in 15 States in 1994. An estimated 3.3% of these 4,300 were rearrested for another sex crime against a child within 3 years of release from prison.

That's pretty low. less than 200 people over 3 years . Heart attacks probably killed more kids.

That doesn't mean it's acceptable.

I'm not saying we should go across the board and make everything from Arson to Zoophillia a killin' offense, I'm saying we should simply have harsher penalties for arrested child molesters.

We can put a ban on executing criminals who turn themselves in, as well. Quid pro quo. You turn yourself in, we don't have waste time finding you. You make us catch you and we make sure you don't use up any more precious air than your little flight already did.

Plus, the whole idea of optional judicial duels puts a whole new spin on things. You can do all kinds of crazy stuff to justify it morally, but I prefer to just take it as a way to expedite the process at the expense of fairness. If both parties are willing to gamble their judgement on the outcome of an objective test of skill or fight, there ya go. Problem solved. No jury, no bailiff, no lawyers, some court time, a judge, and $20 to get any blood mopped up.

Plus, you could sell tickets to the duels and refreshments there to supplement the county's income.With modern tech you could make some nice rubberized weapons that don't usually kill. That's the real crux of my idea of judicial reform: take the illusion of justice out of the legal system. It hasn't been real justice since the code of Hammurabi, and nobody every likes real justice anyway. It's all about punishment and the bad want more and the good want less.

Not to mention I'd try to find a way to keep everything shorter. No huge blobs of legalese on contracts and laws. Short, universal statements or they're just suggestions.