Thank you for keeping Amurica safe from anchor babies, Joe Arpaio.

Yeah, the chance that most every member of that deptartment doesn't spend the rest of their lives in prison is quickly approaching 0. If I were a lower deputy, I'd be doing anything right now to cut a deal with the feds.

Arpaio is a perfect example of what happens when the government forgets that rights are innate to human beings rather than granted by the Constitution to US Citizens.

"Better chain her up boys, at 9 months pregnant, they're faster than they look."

sprawl15: Arpaio is a perfect example of what happens when the government forgets that rights are innate to human beings rather than granted by the Constitution to US Citizens.

If you had bothered to RTFA, you'd know that the plantiff is brown and the Founding Fathers never intended the Constitution apply to them.

I hope Sheriff Joe gets sued, loses millions more than he has, and spends the rest of his life in abject poverty and homelessness.

jcooli09: I hope Sheriff Joe gets sued, loses millions more than he has, and spends the rest of his life in abject poverty and homelessness.

Did you say ghost written book tour topping the best seller list and Fox News Correspondent? Because that's where his future lies.

Yeah, because the epidural that paralyzes 'em doesn't do a good enough job of it. Good job, guys. Good job. We got a women's prison nearby here, and we don't shackle any of 'em when they come in, they just have to have a deputy there with 'em at all times.

ragekage: Yeah, because the epidural that paralyzes 'em doesn't do a good enough job of it. Good job, guys. Good job. We got a women's prison nearby here, and we don't shackle any of 'em when they come in, they just have to have a deputy there with 'em at all times.

I half expected to read that they'd done the c-section without an epidural.

Meh, this is standard procedure for many prisons. They're not really worried about them getting away, but rather, are worried that they'll try to (and fail, injuring themselves in the process) or that they'll try to lash out at the doctors.

The only problem I see is that they didn't have a translator. Had something gone really wrong during the surgery, all you'd get is some hysteric Spanglish, which really doesn't help the doctors much.


/attempting to give a care...
//failing...

what_now: Dinjiin: Meh, this is standard procedure for many prisons.

No. No it isn't. Is not standard procedure in prison to shackle a woman in childbirth.

He's not talking about just in prison, he's talking about medical safety standards. In childbirth procedures around the world, women are tied to their beds during the birth. Most insurance providers even require the woman wear a gimp mask to prevent accidental biting of nursing staff.

The suit also alleges a guard was in too much of a hurry to get Mendiola-Martinez to a court date two days after the C-section. A lawyer for Mendiola-Martinez, Joy Bertrand, told KPHO about the allegation. ""The guard is in so much of a rush to remove her, he forces her to leave in only a hospital gown," Bertrand said. He forces her to walk (with her hands and feet shackled) out of the hospital. She's bleeding from her surgery wound, and can't do anything about it."

And this gem as well:

Guards told Ms. Mediola-Martinez that she would be given a special pregnancy diet.

That diet, she claims, consisted of "items such as two slices (of) cheese or ham, two slices of bread, indistinguishable cooked vegetables and occasionally a piece of fruit." She also said she was given two small cartons of milk a day and a pill that she was told was a vitamin.

On days when she was transported to court, Mendiola-Martinez said, she was given no food during the day. In one instance, she alleges in the suit, an officer taunted her and other inmates with his food, telling them there was no food for them.

Oh and my personal favorite:
Mendiola-Martinez was not allowed to hold or nurse her baby, the suit alleges.

Wait, no, this one:
A nurse "scolded" the corrections officer for taking her "so quickly and without Ms. Mendiola receiving her pain medication or discharge paperwork," so she was again chained and forced to walk back to the nurse's station, according to the suit.

In a just universe, Arpaio would be telaported back to 12th century Europe and treated like a Romani. Medieval farking shiatstain of a police force.

I really can't wait for Sheriff Joe and his whole house of corruption and inhumanity get their inevitable comeuppance.

sprawl15: In childbirth procedures around the world, women are tied to their beds during the birth. Most insurance providers even require the woman wear a gimp mask to prevent accidental biting of nursing staff.

And when it is all done, we get to stone her because she wasn't wearing a chadri during the operation. Am I right?

sprawl15: what_now: Dinjiin: Meh, this is standard procedure for many prisons.

No. No it isn't. Is not standard procedure in prison to shackle a woman in childbirth.

He's not talking about just in prison, he's talking about medical safety standards. In childbirth procedures around the world, women are tied to their beds during the birth. Most insurance providers even require the woman wear a gimp mask to prevent accidental biting of nursing staff.

For a farking C-section?

Boe: sprawl15: what_now: Dinjiin: Meh, this is standard procedure for many prisons.

No. No it isn't. Is not standard procedure in prison to shackle a woman in childbirth.

He's not talking about just in prison, he's talking about medical safety standards. In childbirth procedures around the world, women are tied to their beds during the birth. Most insurance providers even require the woman wear a gimp mask to prevent accidental biting of nursing staff.

For a farking C-section?

Well, she was a *minority* you know how they are. Dangerous, sub-human, filth. Can't be trusted. Need to be protected from THEMSELVES they are so dangerous.

\i feel so dirty now =(

Boe: sprawl15: what_now: Dinjiin: Meh, this is standard procedure for many prisons.

No. No it isn't. Is not standard procedure in prison to shackle a woman in childbirth.

He's not talking about just in prison, he's talking about medical safety standards. In childbirth procedures around the world, women are tied to their beds during the birth. Most insurance providers even require the woman wear a gimp mask to prevent accidental biting of nursing staff.

For a farking C-section?

He's kidding. IN case you're curious though, international standards of medicine specifically state that shackling of pregnant women, before, during or after labor is a major no-no. As well as failure to do everything reasonably within your power to *give her farking child to her*. As well as specifying a minimum amount of recovery time after a c-section before hoisting the woman out of bed. Fails across the board for MCSO. Hoo-rah. At least there's no more illegal messicans in Az anymore, right?

BeesNuts: The suit also alleges a guard was in too much of a hurry to get Mendiola-Martinez to a court date two days after the C-section. A lawyer for Mendiola-Martinez, Joy Bertrand, told KPHO about the allegation. ""The guard is in so much of a rush to remove her, he forces her to leave in only a hospital gown," Bertrand said. He forces her to walk (with her hands and feet shackled) out of the hospital. She's bleeding from her surgery wound, and can't do anything about it."

And this gem as well:

Guards told Ms. Mediola-Martinez that she would be given a special pregnancy diet.

That diet, she claims, consisted of "items such as two slices (of) cheese or ham, two slices of bread, indistinguishable cooked vegetables and occasionally a piece of fruit." She also said she was given two small cartons of milk a day and a pill that she was told was a vitamin.

On days when she was transported to court, Mendiola-Martinez said, she was given no food during the day. In one instance, she alleges in the suit, an officer taunted her and other inmates with his food, telling them there was no food for them.

Oh and my personal favorite:
Mendiola-Martinez was not allowed to hold or nurse her baby, the suit alleges.

Wait, no, this one:
A nurse "scolded" the corrections officer for taking her "so quickly and without Ms. Mendiola receiving her pain medication or discharge paperwork," so she was again chained and forced to walk back to the nurse's station, according to the suit.

In a just universe, Arpaio would be telaported back to 12th century Europe and treated like a Romani. Medieval farking shiatstain of a police force.

I think I remember a scene with food torture in Night by (gonna botch the spelling here) Elie Wiesel.

If that's what the corrections officer did, then he should be forced, for the rest of his life to tour concentration camps and listen to holocaust survivor stories, with a break every five minutes to remind him that concentration camp guards did the very same thing.

CSB. Some friends of mine were picked up for tresspassing at a local convent. They'd had a picnic on the grounds, then wen't inside looking for a trashcan. A groundskeeper called the cops on them.

After they got to the local office the cop handcuffed them to chairs in the station while they were waiting for their parents. The cop asked if they were thirsty, brought out cups of water, and set them out of reach on a table.

One of my friends sent him a copy of Night, with the passage about the food torture highlighted and bookmarked.

Boe: For a farking C-section?

Over the years, I've seen a number of articles about how prisons restrain prisoners during medical procedures, from the most mundane of procedures to some fairly major ones. Sometimes they're just handcuffed to a single point of the bed, sometimes its full body straps. The ones where it is a birth seem to get the most attention, usually because a civil rights lawsuit is involved. Those tend to get greenlit about once or twice a year here on Fark.

A couple of those articles suggested that this is not an uncommon practice, which I am just repeating here.

Every last one of them ought to be killed for this. Death penalties for the bunch of them, farking pigshiat.

Arpaio is what a stupid person thinks a good sherrif looks like.

what_now: If a civil rights lawsuit is involved, it's probably not common practice, now, is it???

People file lawsuits from prison all the time. The larger questions are: how often are these lawsuits filed? How many of these lawsuits result in a judge siding with the prisoner? And were the judgements simply because restraints were used or because of some special circumstance regarding that case?


what_now: But I'm glad you aren't concerned that women accused (but not convicted)

Now you're just playing with technicalities. I mean, if somebody walks into a store and shoots a clerk in the head and is later caught by police, he is still just "the accused" until his conviction. But by your standards, he should be treated different, right?

jcooli09: I hope Sheriff Joe gets sued, loses millions more than he has, and spends the rest of his life in abject poverty and homelessness.

Actually Maricopa County has already been sued multiple times and has had to pay out close to $45 million in settlements.

So how does he continue to get re-elected? The geezers who moved down there from the Midwest to retire were the ones who cheered when Sheriff Billy Bob in Asscrack Junction, Alabama was on the nightly news night-sticking the blacks for being uppity and wanting to vote. And when they found out that Sheriff Billy Bob wasn't just gone but often times replaced by a black guy, they moved to Arizona. And since these people like the cut of Arpao's jib, he gets re-elected.

what_now: Those are the standards of the United States Constitution.

If I ever get arrested for something, I'll make sure to make a fuss about the handcuffs. After all, handcuffs aren't in the Constitution. I'm sure the police will see the error of their judgement and remove them immediately.

This woman is an ignorant foreign criminal. As long as she isn't tortured, murdered, or raped, I don't particularly care what happens to her. If she wants her cries for help to be understood, she should learn to speak English.

Send her ass back to Mexico, but make her leave the baby; it's a citizen. Besides, unlike her the kid may eventually enrich our society in some way.

Philip J. Fry:
Did you say ghost written book tour topping the best seller list and Fox News Correspondent? Because that's where his future lies.

I look forward to hearing him bellow his catchphrase "THAT'S A BUNCH OF GARBAGE!" whenever challenged, or drunk, on Fox News. What a breath of fresh air. What insight!

FTFA: Mendiola-Martinez claims detention officers ignored her cries for help because they were made in Spanish

That's your problem right there. If you can't be bothered to learn the language of the country where you decided to live, at least figure out how to cry for help in the language people would understand

what_now: Dinjiin: Meh, this is standard procedure for many prisons.

No. No it isn't. Is not standard procedure in prison to shackle a woman in childbirth.

What the hell are you blathering about??

There's also a difference between a prison and a jail. Arpaio does not run the prisons.

RandomTux: FTFA: Mendiola-Martinez claims detention officers ignored her cries for help because they were made in Spanish

That's your problem right there. If you can't be bothered to learn the language of the country where you decided to live, at least figure out how to cry for help in the language people would understand

If you live on the southern border and don't learn any Spanish, you are a racist or have no sex drive.

Nadie_AZ: JesusJuice: This woman is an ignorant foreign criminal. As long as she isn't tortured, murdered, or raped, I don't particularly care what happens to her. If she wants her cries for help to be understood, she should learn to speak English.

Send her ass back to Mexico, but make her leave the baby; it's a citizen. Besides, unlike her the kid may eventually enrich our society in some way.

Jesus and the Constitution just wept.

Merry farking Christmas

Don't Troll Me Bro!: WTF is wrong with you?

According to the Arizona Republic article, she was not handcuffed during the actual caesarean section itself. She was shackled to the bed afterwards and during transport to the vehicle waiting for her. She received no injuries from the restraints. She did have a post-operative issue which caused her some pain, to which she was unable to properly communicate because the MCSO failed to provide a translator. The fact that restraints were used simply sensationalizes the situation. The only thing they may have hurt is her pride. To that, I'm really indifferent.

The real issue is that neither MCSO nor the medical facility had someone fluent in Spanish available. She most likely would have gotten additional care if she was able to communicate the severity of her issues to the medical staff. Does state or federal law clearly require MCSO to provide a translator during a major medical procedure on an inmate? Does MCSO have a written policy that a translator must be available during a major medical procedure on an inmate? If it is "yes" to either of those, then yeah, this lady has a legitimate right to sue MCSO.

But then a simple matter over communications doesn't stir up the kind of outrage that results in massive page clicks and a greenlight for subby.

Don't Troll Me Bro!: jcooli09: I hope Sheriff Joe gets sued, loses millions more than he has, and spends the rest of his life in abject poverty and homelessness and alone.

don't forget alone.

^ALONE