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2011-12-22 02:27:06 PM

mrtoadswildride: And you know what? I still don't fear the dentist becuase I'm not 6 years old. The mild annoyance of somewhere cleaning my teeth for 35 minutes is far less than having my teeth removed or enduring all the other hellish procedures resulting from improper oral maintenance.


Are we allowed to both fear the dentist and go regularly, and get work done promptly?
 
2011-12-22 02:27:40 PM
I got 2 new fillings last week, got cavities under the old metal fillings and they are super sensitive right now. Does anyone know if that is normal? I mean anything I eat gives me that touch a nerve kind of sensation, even water does it. Receptionist said to wait a few more days then call them back (Christmas break). Just wondering if anyone knows. Where's farks resident dentist at anyway I haven't seen him troll in months.
 
2011-12-22 02:40:24 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: How soon until they invent a gum that eats the plaque off your teeth while you chew?


images.wikia.com

NEVER swallow the dentic!

/nothing is obscure on Fark
 
2011-12-22 02:40:29 PM

bdub77: I am going to eat so much f*cking candy.


It doesn't cure diabeetus.
 
2011-12-22 02:43:17 PM

Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.


So here's the thing... I spent 34 years of my life completely at peace with dentistry. I'd had drilling, fillings, extractions, oral surgery for wisdom teeth, an implant (titanium screw drilled into jawbone), and all the standard cleaning and poking. Nothing bothered me. When they put the screw in, the surgeon let me play with the tiny torque wrench, and I voluntarily stayed awake. Then I went in once for a pretty routine filling on a minor cavity where they screwed up the numbing. Jaw felt numb just like always, but they'd apparently managed to put the shots in just in front of wherever the right set of nerves branched off-- because when they hit that tooth with the drill, it took every ounce of willpower I had to hold still enough to not thrash. I screamed as best I could with a mouth full of equipment, and they stopped-- but the pain does NOT stop quickly. That tooth continues to feel like it's on fire-- maybe it's even because you can feel the heat from the drill friction. I don't actually know.

So now, it's not so much that I'm scared of dentists, as I am scared that they'll screw up the anaesthetic again. And it's a genuine fear that I never had before. It was horrible, and I'm afraid of it happening again.

THIS is how you become afraid of dentistry.

Well, this, and being seven years old and in the chair next to mine when I scream at the top of my lungs. I suspect that would do it, too.
 
2011-12-22 03:04:20 PM

hogans: GoodyearPimp: Bunch of wimps. I recently had to get some fillings (chipped tooth, beginning of a cavity) and the doc was super cool about it.

He asked if I wanted the shot. I asked him "Is it going to hurt?" He said "yes". "Then you better goddamn believe it".

"Uh, just for the record, are there people that say no?" "Yes, just had one earlier today actually."

/You aren't a hero, Mr. I'm too good for Lidocaine.

I've had a number of fillings, and have never used a shot. The only time there's any pain is when the drilling is nearly complete; the drill heats up the surrounding tooth. Make a little noise, and my dentist steps back for a moment. Maybe I just feel pain differently from you, or maybe you're over-reacting a touch.


Everybody is a little different. It has nothing to do with overreacting; some folks have teeth set up to feel less pain, many others are at the other end of the spectrum and have teeth that are very sensitive.

I'm in the latter group. I'm also one of those not-too-common people who metabolizes the various -caines wicked fast (also opiate-insensitive, which doubles the suckage), which means for me that there is no such thing as painless dentistry. Were I not such an awesome internet tough guy who deals with pain like a real man, I'd be scared of dentists too.
 
2011-12-22 03:06:25 PM
just had a couple of teeth filled tuesday; the light gun that bakes on the enamel nowadays is interesting.
 
2011-12-22 03:07:03 PM

NextChapter: Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.

Nope, it's real.

Trust me on this!


Not as bad as 50 years ago before the air-powered turbine drills. Those old pulley-driven drills were loud, slow and generated so much heat, the dentist would have to stop to let your tooth cool off.
 
2011-12-22 03:10:50 PM
I never really had problems with dentists until I was in the military. I was having two wisdom teeth being taken out. The dentist didn't use enough anesthesia and it was extremely painful.

His followup instructions were extremely poor. I ended up with dry socket and didn't know what to do. I didn't know why my mouth hurt so bad. It took 2 days to get into to see another dentist. Worst two days of my life.

One month later, I went in to a different military dentist to get the other two wisdom teeth out. I hyperventilated and passed out in the chair, as soon as the put the drape on me.

I still go to the dentist on a regular basis, fear isn't as bad as it used to be, but it isn't any fun.
 
2011-12-22 03:16:13 PM

TNel: I got 2 new fillings last week, got cavities under the old metal fillings and they are super sensitive right now. Does anyone know if that is normal?


No, it's not normal at all. It means you have cancer and are probably a gay.
 
2011-12-22 03:36:45 PM
As the incredibly fortunate recipient of a quadruple open-heart bypass (That's where they saw you in half, then shoot heroin into your neck for a week), I'm getting a kick...

\ Afraid of pain too...
\\ Intelligent Design... how does it work?
 
2011-12-22 03:57:09 PM
One my last dentist was demoing a new "Aqua-Lase" or something like that. The idea was to force really cold water into the nerve of the tooth to deaden the pain for the drilling/filling.

Whatever numbing sensasion it provided wore off the second the drill hit the tooth. After a few minutes I kind of blacked out. My dentist claimed that she asked me if I wanted to stop the procedure to get some novacane. Like I said I blacked out, but she also claimed that I told her to finish the filling before I slapped her hard enough to knock her whore teeth out.

Sounds about like something I'd say.
 
2011-12-22 04:14:19 PM

mongbiohazard: capt.hollister: hp6sa: capt.hollister: My dentist is a milf. She terrifies me for a whole other set of reasons.

/so does her dental hygienist

Does your dentist have a website?

Nope, you'll just have to vist my town to meet her..
But here's proof that she's real (new window)


Hmmnnn.... Is this her?


No, but not a bad find.

Actually, there is also a vet by the same name in town. Not as hot as the dentist, though.
 
2011-12-22 04:15:07 PM

Atharaenea: Shaylen: Dear people who are afraid of the dentist. You have a shiatty dentist. time to find a new one.

If you have a good dentist then there's no need to fear going to him/her. I've been going to the same one since i can remember and he's great.

Having a good dentist has nothing to do with it. Having a long history of bad dentists and/or painful dental procedures is what primes your fear, regardless on whether it actually hurts or not. I remember a time I wasn't afraid of the dentist, or even of fillings. It was no big deal at all. Then I needed to get my wisdom teeth surgically removed. I was put completely under, so I didn't feel anything at the time, but the pain killer they gave me both made me sick and didn't work well. Thereafter, there was always anxiety when going to the dentist for any reason, which only got worse when my teeth became sensitive (causing pain with cold air and water). Bad experiences add far more to a fear than a good experience takes away.

My current dentist is fantastic. Fillings don't hurt, he has excellent bedside manner, and was even able to fit me in to a full schedule when I had the worst toothache of my life and needed a root canal RIGHT THEN.

Logic has nothing to do with fear, and the current situation does little to soothe an ongoing phobia.


Actually, it helps me a lot. My hygenist is typically a raging biatch who can't seem to understand the difference between 'cleaning teeth' and 'attempted murder via toothbrush', and has been since I can remember.

Once I got the nice hygenist, who's halfway sane (and started using toothpaste with lots of extra flouride, apparently the pain\spine tingling was from thin enamel), I got better.

/Still Aspie enough to hate the dentist
//But I'm not having panic attacks
 
2011-12-22 04:26:38 PM

Weidbrewer: Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.

Not uncommon in the least little bit.


Not uncommon but farking weird.
 
2011-12-22 04:31:35 PM

mrtoadswildride: Grow a set. I still don't fear the dentist becuase I'm not 6 years old. The mild annoyance of somewhere cleaning my teeth for 35 minutes is far less than having my teeth removed or enduring all the other hellish procedures resulting from improper oral maintenance.


Wow. When I grow up I want to be just like you: an intolerant, insufferable arse.
 
2011-12-22 04:38:19 PM
I have an incredibly low pain threshold. I have had some really good dentists.

What I would like would be a vaccine to prevent cavities in the first place as well as a technique to grow new teeth.
 
2011-12-22 05:06:35 PM

Contents Under Pressure: I have an incredibly low pain threshold. I have had some really good dentists.

What I would like would be a vaccine to prevent cavities in the first place as well as a technique to grow new teeth.


Indeed. No matter how great the procedure to fill teeth I'd prefer to not have to in the first place. What happened to that idea that we could fill our mouths with bacteria that don't eat teeth to replace the bacteria that do?

Teeth seem to be a very weak design point in humans. Even the most primitive and isolated people who do not consume the modern sugar filled diet don't seem to keep their teeth into old age. An untreated infected tooth is not just a painful nuisance, but can in fact kill you. Dreadful design flaw if you ask me.

Plus I never understood the point of having a nerve in our teeth in the first place. What on earth were Ugg and Krug going to do when they had a cavity in the stone age? Not like they could pop down to the dentist for a filling. Is there any point in sending a warning message that there is a hole developing in a tooth when there was nothing that could be done about it anyway?
 
2011-12-22 05:18:19 PM

Wonderduck: mrtoadswildride: Grow a set. I still don't fear the dentist becuase I'm not 6 years old. The mild annoyance of somewhere cleaning my teeth for 35 minutes is far less than having my teeth removed or enduring all the other hellish procedures resulting from improper oral maintenance.

Wow. When I grow up I want to be just like you: an intolerant, insufferable arse.


Past my lips is internal. Dentistry is surgery. I demand to not be conscious for internal surgery. I had to include wonderducks comment because I agreed with it so much.
 
2011-12-22 05:31:13 PM

dready zim: Wonderduck: mrtoadswildride: Grow a set. I still don't fear the dentist becuase I'm not 6 years old. The mild annoyance of somewhere cleaning my teeth for 35 minutes is far less than having my teeth removed or enduring all the other hellish procedures resulting from improper oral maintenance.

Wow. When I grow up I want to be just like you: an intolerant, insufferable arse.

Past my lips is internal. Dentistry is surgery. I demand to not be conscious for internal surgery. I had to include wonderducks comment because I agreed with it so much.


Agreed that Wonderduck made a great comment there. I always wonder whether those who are insufferable, intolerant arses are actually intentionally going for that effect, and if they are, why?
 
2011-12-22 07:14:51 PM
My teeth are mostly insensate. The last time I went to the dentist, a couple of years ago, they were tapping them to test their sensitivity. Nothing. I could feel the heavy taps, but no pain. I can bite directly into ice cream. But,it wasn't always like this. Years ago, at one point, I purchased anti-sensitivity toothpaste.

How'd I do it? I think a good multivitamin/mineral helps. Plus getting sufficient potassium. I brush every day with just a plain ol' anti-cavity toothpaste - Crest or Colgate. Divide the mouth into six sections: bottom-left, bottom-front, bottom-right, ditto for the top. Brush each surface - side/top/side - for at least 10 seconds. Use a medium toothbrush. Floss at least three times a week, all the way around the top, from the rearmost wisdom teeth. I do the front bottom ones up to the incisors.

And the final item - I use anti-cavity fluoride rinse. Not just breath-freshening mouthwash, specifically anti-cavity fluoride rinse. I really think this is a very effective tool when used according to the directions. Somehow, definitely adds to the whiteness of my teeth.

The whole process takes from 3 (brush-only) to 10 (brush/floss/fluoride rinse) minutes.
 
2011-12-22 07:21:07 PM

Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.


I'm a clown dentist and I'll be seeing your fearful detractors IN THEIR NIGHTMARES TONIGHT.

/honks horn and revs drill with a wink
 
2011-12-22 07:22:30 PM

KingOfTown: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: How soon until they invent a gum that eats the plaque off your teeth while you chew?

[images.wikia.com image 623x480]

NEVER swallow the dentic!

/nothing is obscure on Fark


If only we could invent something to remove Bonnie Hammer?!
 
2011-12-22 07:23:44 PM

Nidiot: I always wonder whether those who are insufferable, intolerant arses are actually intentionally going for that effect, and if they are, why?


Because they're insufferable, intolerant arses.
 
2011-12-22 07:24:52 PM
FYI - How fluoride works to stop and reverse cavities, from the CDC:

"Fluoride works to control early dental caries in several ways. Fluoride concentrated in plaque and saliva inhibits the demineralization of sound enamel and enhances the remineralization (i.e., recovery) of demineralized enamel (12,13). As cariogenic bacteria metabolize carbohydrates and produce acid, fluoride is released from dental plaque in response to lowered pH at the tooth-plaque interface (14). The released fluoride and the fluoride present in saliva are then taken up, along with calcium and phosphate, by de-mineralized enamel to establish an improved enamel crystal structure. This improved structure is more acid resistant and contains more fluoride and less carbonate (12,15--19) (Figure 1). Fluoride is more readily taken up by demineralized enamel than by sound enamel (20). Cycles of demineralization and remineralization continue throughout the lifetime of the tooth.

Fluoride also inhibits dental caries by affecting the activity of cariogenic bacteria. As fluoride concentrates in dental plaque, it inhibits the process by which cariogenic bacteria metabolize carbohydrates to produce acid and affects bacterial production of adhesive polysaccharides (21). In laboratory studies, when a low concentration of fluoride is constantly present, one type of cariogenic bacteria, Streptococcus mutans, produces less acid (22--25). Whether this reduced acid production reduces the cariogenicity of these bacteria in humans is unclear (26).

Saliva is a major carrier of topical fluoride. The concentration of fluoride in ductal saliva, as it is secreted from salivary glands, is low --- approximately 0.016 parts per million (ppm) in areas where drinking water is fluoridated and 0.006 ppm in nonfluoridated areas (27). This concentration of fluoride is not likely to affect cariogenic activity. However, drinking fluoridated water, brushing with fluoride toothpaste, or using other fluoride dental products can raise the concentration of fluoride in saliva present in the mouth 100- to 1,000-fold. The concentration returns to previous levels within 1--2 hours but, during this time, saliva serves as an important source of fluoride for concentration in plaque and for tooth remineralization (28).

Applying fluoride gel or other products containing a high concentration of fluoride to the teeth leaves a temporary layer of calcium fluoride-like material on the enamel surface. The fluoride in this material is released when the pH drops in the mouth in response to acid production and is available to remineralize enamel (29). "

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5014a1.htm
 
2011-12-22 08:17:11 PM

KingOfTown:

NEVER swallow the dentic!



Not even fried.

--Carlos V.
 
2011-12-22 08:36:30 PM
What, we can give ourselves vampire fangs now?
 
2011-12-22 08:49:35 PM

Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.


What's worse than being scared of either dentists or clowns? Being scared of BOTH:

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/Yes, I know I'm late
 
2011-12-22 09:13:03 PM

hitlersbrain: "NOOOOOO!"
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Candy bar! I'm gonna get a candy baaar!
 
2011-12-22 09:58:30 PM

Nuff Said McFarky: Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.

What's worse than being scared of either dentists or clowns? Being scared of BOTH:

[cdn.static.ovimg.com image 400x300]

/Yes, I know I'm late


Yes, you were. Well played.
 
2011-12-22 09:59:46 PM

workaholicandy: Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.

Neither are myths.

Walking into a dentists makes me go sheet white, my heart starts racing and my mouth goes dry.
My better half makes my appointments for me without my knowledge and tricks me into going. She know without her doing this I will never go.
On the other hand she is just as afraid of clowns and has almost identical physiological response to them and has been know to burst into tears if one pops up on the tv.
Personally I think my fear is more reasonable since dentists are evil satanic b'tards but clowns are just morons in a silly outfit


You're a rabid anti-dentite! Oh, it starts with a few jokes and some slurs. "Hey, denty!" Next thing you know you're saying they should have their own schools.
 
2011-12-22 10:09:07 PM

SearchN: Nuff Said McFarky: Lumber Jack Off: people are actually terrified by dentists? I always thought that was a myth like people who are scared of clowns.

What's worse than being scared of either dentists or clowns? Being scared of BOTH:

[cdn.static.ovimg.com image 400x300]

/Yes, I know I'm late

Yes, you were. Well played.


I was leaning against posting Dr. Joker, D.D.S., D.M.D., just because of the timing, but Fark missing such an obvious reference is a travesty that I HAD to correct.
 
2011-12-22 10:16:42 PM

TNel: I got 2 new fillings last week, got cavities under the old metal fillings and they are super sensitive right now. Does anyone know if that is normal? I mean anything I eat gives me that touch a nerve kind of sensation, even water does it. Receptionist said to wait a few more days then call them back (Christmas break). Just wondering if anyone knows. Where's farks resident dentist at anyway I haven't seen him troll in months.


Keep an eye on it and definitely check back with the dentist if it doesn't improve or gets worse. I had an old filling that had cracked and gotten a cavity underneath. The original filling was deep to start with. Dentist had warned me going in that there may be problems because he had to go even deeper. Sure enough, it went from discomfort into all out pain. Ended up with a root canal. If it's just sensitive, I wouldn't stress too much about it but just check back with them.
 
2011-12-22 10:25:59 PM
Hogans is right about midcentury dentistry (and I'm talking about up-to-date, prosperous urban-area practice) where you didn't get an anesthetic for Every Little Thing. I've got a mouthful of metal as a souvenir of those years; didn't get my first painkiller until some for-real "oral surgery" at almost age 30.

BTW, if you've got a moment for some dental comedy, the Tim Conway (w/Harvey Korman) dentist sketch is a dandy, suitable for all ages, and might make you a little less uneasy next time you face your local D.D.S.:

Link (new window)
 
2011-12-22 11:37:58 PM
Plasma toothbrush sounds like something that you would save up for and buy on the Sims.
 
2011-12-23 12:19:12 AM
WTF is terrified by dentists, besides Dustin Hoffman?

*raises hand*
Almost 50 and never been to a dentist (and I've seen plenty of them) without them hurting me - sometimes to the point of trauma. One of my many root canals took 4 hours and traumatized the dentist more than me (he couldn't get the tooth root to stop bleeding). My nerves are in the wrong places and so don't always get numb, and the dentist and I both know he's going to hit a live one at some point in the procedure and I'll jump and scream. Once I almost jumped completely out of the chair. When I did so the dentist's drill caught my lip, but that was OK - it was a positive relief compared to when he was drilling the tooth.

I'm not totally immune, but...

I thought I was unusual in this, but it looks like I'm not! I also have sensitive teeth (the water to cool the drill spraying around makes the teeth not being drilled hurt) and genetically weak enamel (thanks mom!).

The filling is the easy part. The hard part is cutting a hole where it goes in. Let me know when they get a painless way for that.

This!!!

They fill baby teeth? I would have figured they'd just let it fall out/pull it.

If the are causing pain, they fill them. I had 13 cavities on my first visit at age 6.

I got 2 new fillings last week, got cavities under the old metal fillings and they are super sensitive right now. Does anyone know if that is normal?

When they age, fillings wear and crack. Stuff gets down there and starts new rot patches (not like you can brush under your fillings) It's pretty normal.

Also, how is it that I can floss my teeth without any problem, but when the hygienisist does it there is blood everywhere? I think they train them to do that so that they can yell at you for not flossing enough.
 
2011-12-23 01:57:06 AM
Dentists are some of the few people I actually fear.

I know that some (most?) of the pain is just in my head, though. I can perform the same procedures on my teeth at home with relatively little pain. I can scrape plaque away, I can use a water pick, and I can even pull a tooth out without novocaine. (Yes, I did this once. Very bloody, but far less frightening than sitting in a dentist's lobby.)

I know this stuff isn't safe, but it hurts far less, so it's really my only choice. It's cheaper, too.
 
2011-12-23 03:04:48 AM

Guelph35: My daughter (5 1/2 years old) got kicked out of the dentist office this morning when she was too hysterical to get a tooth filled, so I am very interested in this technology.


Be a real parent and quit giving your kid tons of candy, and teach her to brush her teeth. There is no excuse for your kid having a cavity so bad that a baby tooth needs to be filled.
 
2011-12-23 08:39:09 AM

dready zim: Wonderduck: mrtoadswildride: Grow a set. I still don't fear the dentist becuase I'm not 6 years old. The mild annoyance of somewhere cleaning my teeth for 35 minutes is far less than having my teeth removed or enduring all the other hellish procedures resulting from improper oral maintenance.

Wow. When I grow up I want to be just like you: an intolerant, insufferable arse.

Past my lips is internal. Dentistry is surgery. I demand to not be conscious for internal surgery. I had to include wonderducks comment because I agreed with it so much.



So every time you put food in your mouth or pick your nose....that's surgery? Perhaps we should stick with the medical definition that involves scalpels and incisions into the body?

/There are lots of things in life to be scared of....dental hygienists is not one of them.
 
2011-12-23 12:59:21 PM
Am I the only person who DIDN'T see the killer dentist movie?
 
2011-12-23 06:36:10 PM
Best dentistry ever!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW6R9kSGV2Q
 
2011-12-23 08:44:41 PM
It's not the dentist I get scared of, but more the dentists' bills AFTER the insurance :(

It also doesn't help that the dental insurance only pays a percentage of procedures--and usually not much on major procedures...

/it doesn't help that "money issues" IS a major PTSD trigger of mine--as in "Has literally caused me to have to seek psychiatric help due to severe panic attacks" trigger :P
//yes kids, this is how "Prosperity Gospel" and a family living in poverty despite making JUST above all the cutoffs for family assistance programs (thanks to a mother in a Jesus Camper cult heavy into "Prosperity Gospel") ruins lives :P
 
2011-12-24 06:20:27 PM

Uncle_Sam's_Titties: Well super, so in the future I'll be one of a minority of freaks that still has all their bullshiat silver fillings from the 80s that fark your teeth up worse than the problems they 'fix', meanwhile people will be getting custom designs drawn into their teeth with tiny lightsabers.


Nah, those fillings only last ten years or so before they start to break up and fall out. The new resin ones supposedly stay in longer, but we'll see. Research and history does show that the mercury compound is mostly inert; the stuff they mix it with binds the heavy metals much more powerfully than anything in your body could.

The worst part about the mercury ones is that they have to grind a fat chunk of good tooth out just to give them something to bond to.
 
2011-12-24 06:23:26 PM

iollow: I had a gum treatment a year ago with some kind of laser. Apparently my dentist is one of only a few who are doing it. Took 2 minutes and I barely felt anything. (insert girlfriend joke here)


Are you sure it wasn't UV, which most dentists are using now? It looks like a big metal wand attached to a big desk or chair unit. Your dentist may have told you that to charge you more, though. The good dentists will still do the old-fashioned deep cleaning with picks as well; imho they're complimentary and neither method replaces the other.
 
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