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(New York Magazine)   Candy store Sugar & Plumm Purveyors of Yumm learns the hard way the Upper West Side doesn't like cute store names, bright layouts, or fun. "The whole thing needs toned down. The coolest places in New York have no signs"   (nymag.com) divider line 161
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2011-12-21 04:58:22 PM  

natas6.0: NDP2
What happened to New Yorkers? I can't believe how wimpy and whiny they seemed to have gotten over the last 10-15 years. Is this Giuliani's fault?

Not entirely sure what the deal is. New yorkers used to have the rep of being tough bastardos.
Now they ban fried foods, smoking, it's been a decade and their rebuilding of 2 towers is slower than Nola. They do have a habit of electic total idiots.
There's definitely some purified sissy in the water..and not the fetishy kind


I'd say the biggest difference is that Manhattan has become an island of wealth. There's always been the idea that the upper-middle class is the one that sets the socio-political trends. I think we're simply seeing what a rapid concentration of that can do. Manhattan is a long way from the Death Wish movies.
 
2011-12-21 04:58:42 PM  
Doesn't look any more garish than the goddamn 3-story M&M Candy store in Times Square.

\who knew, for only thirteen bucks a pound, you could buy M&Ms in any of 150 or so colors.
\\nope, didn't buy any
 
2011-12-21 04:59:27 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Around 2005 when Little Five Points was gentrifying fast a local artist made this.


That... is amazing. Right-click-saving it up.
 
2011-12-21 05:01:49 PM  

itazurakko: Rapmaster2000: Around 2005 when Little Five Points was gentrifying fast a local artist made this.

That... is amazing. Right-click-saving it up.


His name is Ronnie Land. Really nice guy. He also put these up along with the condo and loft signs that were popping up everywhere. I liked the guerrilla style. I still have one of these.

rlandart.com
 
2011-12-21 05:02:48 PM  

lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?


.....

Thanks, came to do this, friend :-)
 
2011-12-21 05:05:55 PM  

Rapmaster2000: itazurakko: Rapmaster2000: Around 2005 when Little Five Points was gentrifying fast a local artist made this.

That... is amazing. Right-click-saving it up.

His name is Ronnie Land. Really nice guy. He also put these up along with the condo and loft signs that were popping up everywhere. I liked the guerrilla style. I still have one of these.

[rlandart.com image 640x932]


Lousy investment in neighborhoods ruining the fun. I remember when you couldn't stumble down the Bowery in a poppy-addled haze without spiking yourself with a needle brimming with hepatitis. Those were the days.
 
2011-12-21 05:06:10 PM  

Lipspinach


Can you understand what is being said. Yes? Then STFU.


That's an incomplete argument.

Hypothetical: if I'm talking to someone who butchers and mangles his native tongue, I may well understand his meaning while thinking he is a complete lunkhead. Lunkheadedness may put a crimp in the overall conversation.


And yet here I am on Fark, yes, I know.
 
2011-12-21 05:07:45 PM  

Rapmaster2000: His name is Ronnie Land. Really nice guy. He also put these up along with the condo and loft signs that were popping up everywhere. I liked the guerrilla style. I still have one of these.


Cool.

Here in the Midwest we have a lot of pretentious subdivisions that all want to call themselves some variety of "The X at Y" where more than often neither the X nor Y have anything to do with the actual geography of the place.

So when I want to parody those places, it's "The Turds at Dingleberry," has that nice "berry" faux-upper-crust-British feel going on. Soccer Mom lives there, driving the minivan with Snotleigh and Bratleigh in it.
 
2011-12-21 05:10:59 PM  

skullkrusher: Lousy investment in neighborhoods ruining the fun. I remember when you couldn't stumble down the Bowery in a poppy-addled haze without spiking yourself with a needle brimming with hepatitis. Those were the days.


There's a middle ground, really.

But honestly a lot of people like to move to neighborhoods that have bullet holes from last year still visible, while certainly not wanting any real danger to happen now. It's all about image.
 
2011-12-21 05:11:04 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Doesn't look any more garish than the goddamn 3-story M&M Candy store in Times Square.

\who knew, for only thirteen bucks a pound, you could buy M&Ms in any of 150 or so colors.
\\nope, didn't buy any


You're using Times Square as your reference point for what's considered garish?
 
2011-12-21 05:15:09 PM  

skullkrusher: Rapmaster2000: itazurakko: Rapmaster2000: Around 2005 when Little Five Points was gentrifying fast a local artist made this.

That... is amazing. Right-click-saving it up.

His name is Ronnie Land. Really nice guy. He also put these up along with the condo and loft signs that were popping up everywhere. I liked the guerrilla style. I still have one of these.

[rlandart.com image 640x932]

Lousy investment in neighborhoods ruining the fun. I remember when you couldn't stumble down the Bowery in a poppy-addled haze without spiking yourself with a needle brimming with hepatitis. Those were the days.


Eh, I know what you mean. I enjoyed the ghettoness of the neighborhood because it was cheap and empty, but I was at the age to enjoy. Now that's a very bourgeois thing to say because as a white, college kid I could always just move away so it's not going to be the same for everyone. For a lot of artists, the increased rents mean they have to move. For property values, it's great. Like I said, it's all in how the change affects you. Those junkies had to move from the Bowery to somewhere. I'm guessing their new neighbors aren't a fan of it.

If you're 20, then gentrification ruins the bars. If you're 35, you appreciate the improved beer selection and reduced stab risk.
 
2011-12-21 05:15:42 PM  
A link to their Stop Sugar and Plumm Facebook page that shows the proposed storefront.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=337820039564677&set=pu.3377505 6 6238291&type=1&theater
 
2011-12-21 05:18:42 PM  
mw2.google.com

Yeah, NYC's all about class-
 
2011-12-21 05:20:04 PM  
New York as a whole needs to get over itself. It's basically HOAs turned nuclear, the highest disparity of wealth anywhere, and a two hundred year history of segregation (albeit largely self-imposed) second only to South Africa in the 1980s.
 
2011-12-21 05:25:25 PM  

Rapmaster2000: skullkrusher: Rapmaster2000: itazurakko: Rapmaster2000: Around 2005 when Little Five Points was gentrifying fast a local artist made this.

That... is amazing. Right-click-saving it up.

His name is Ronnie Land. Really nice guy. He also put these up along with the condo and loft signs that were popping up everywhere. I liked the guerrilla style. I still have one of these.

[rlandart.com image 640x932]

Lousy investment in neighborhoods ruining the fun. I remember when you couldn't stumble down the Bowery in a poppy-addled haze without spiking yourself with a needle brimming with hepatitis. Those were the days.

Eh, I know what you mean. I enjoyed the ghettoness of the neighborhood because it was cheap and empty, but I was at the age to enjoy. Now that's a very bourgeois thing to say because as a white, college kid I could always just move away so it's not going to be the same for everyone. For a lot of artists, the increased rents mean they have to move. For property values, it's great. Like I said, it's all in how the change affects you. Those junkies had to move from the Bowery to somewhere. I'm guessing their new neighbors aren't a fan of it.

If you're 20, then gentrification ruins the bars. If you're 35, you appreciate the improved beer selection and reduced stab risk.


progress, sir. Progress. The UWS is a great neighborhood now. Safe, lots to do, parks, restaurants, bars, library. Got it all. My immediate neighborhood is mostly white but that changes 5-6 blocks north or going east and up a few. As a result, people on the street are a mix of everything and I am pretty sure they all appreciate the safety relative to the way it was a decade or 2 ago. I've been in there for about 10 years now and I must say that I get into fights with people a lot less. Could be because I am less of a drunken asshole but I like to think it's because of gentrification.
 
2011-12-21 05:28:53 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Doesn't look any more garish than the goddamn 3-story M&M Candy store in Times Square.

\who knew, for only thirteen bucks a pound, you could buy M&Ms in any of 150 or so colors.
\\nope, didn't buy any


While I think the board is overstepping in this case, using Times Square as some sort of normal representation for the rest of New York doesn't exactly fly either.
 
2011-12-21 05:29:28 PM  

itazurakko: Rapmaster2000: His name is Ronnie Land. Really nice guy. He also put these up along with the condo and loft signs that were popping up everywhere. I liked the guerrilla style. I still have one of these.

Cool.

Here in the Midwest we have a lot of pretentious subdivisions that all want to call themselves some variety of "The X at Y" where more than often neither the X nor Y have anything to do with the actual geography of the place.

So when I want to parody those places, it's "The Turds at Dingleberry," has that nice "berry" faux-upper-crust-British feel going on. Soccer Mom lives there, driving the minivan with Snotleigh and Bratleigh in it.


We seem to share neighborhoods.

Not really, because it IS that prevalent here.

But I really do like living in the midwest, would just rather do it without those uppity farkers.
 
2011-12-21 05:33:14 PM  

lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?


You need chilled out.
 
2011-12-21 05:33:48 PM  

skullkrusher:

progress, sir. Progress. The UWS is a great neighborhood now. Safe, lots to do, parks, restaurants, bars, library. Got it all. My immediate neighborhood is mostly white but that changes 5-6 blocks north or going east and up a few. As a result, people on the street are a mix of everything and I am pretty sure they all appreciate the safety relative to the way it was a decade or 2 ago. I've been in there for about 10 years now and I must say that I get into fights with people a lot less. Could be because I am less of a drunken asshole but I like to think it's because of gentrification.


Progress it definitely is. No good fighting it. Embrace the change because you'll pretty much have to. When I finally bought a place, I enjoyed nothing more than seeing the junkyard replaced by lofts, the sketchy auto shop turned into a dog clipping place, and the abandoned gas station turned into a bar.

Though I'm certain the fight reduction is all on me. About seven years ago when I noticed my nose beginning to grow crooked, I rued some of those times I mouthed off. One of them actually started with "you're a hipster... no you're a hipster." Years later, I apologized to the guy.
 
2011-12-21 05:36:48 PM  

Super Chronic: You're using Times Square as your reference point for what's considered garish?


More like "corporate chain," surely? You can find all kinds of biatching about how Times Square has been ruined and all that.

There's an M&M outlet in Chicago too, smaller but still yeah you can get any of those colors.

I noticed the M&M store watching a live stream of the Macy's parade (yeah, yeah), they had an ad running above where one of the main cameras was looking.

Anyway, there's gentrification and then there's "become nothing but chains," while they often do go together it's not always that way. You can find pricier bars with wide beer selections that are still one-off places. (Actually - are chain bars even a thing? I think all the bars by me are local, from the cheap places aimed at college partiers to the upscale "we don't allow jeans" places...)

Similarly chains aren't entirely bad either, but it's just interesting how crazy the branding has gotten, to the point that the entire buildings are giant packages, so that they really do look the same all over the country (and abroad for that matter). Occasionally you'll find a town that's managed to tell the WalMart or whatever it is that they have to fit in the existing brick building and just put a sign on the outside, but particularly in the burbs they just want to build new.
 
2011-12-21 05:39:35 PM  

FreakinB: While I think the board is overstepping in this case, using Times Square as some sort of normal representation for the rest of New York doesn't exactly fly either.


Someone else posted upthread, it's interesting that probably Times Square is one of the LEAST representative places now because it's where all the tourists go. Same with North Michigan Ave. in Chicago - it's a giant outdoor mall now, pretty much. There's tons of one-off shops not far from there, but the one "gotta go to that location to shop because it's downtown!!!" thing is largely tourists and, largely chains.
 
2011-12-21 05:42:40 PM  

itazurakko: FreakinB: While I think the board is overstepping in this case, using Times Square as some sort of normal representation for the rest of New York doesn't exactly fly either.

Someone else posted upthread, it's interesting that probably Times Square is one of the LEAST representative places now because it's where all the tourists go. Same with North Michigan Ave. in Chicago - it's a giant outdoor mall now, pretty much. There's tons of one-off shops not far from there, but the one "gotta go to that location to shop because it's downtown!!!" thing is largely tourists and, largely chains.


the pedestrian walk/park in the middle of farking Broadway was the final nail in the coffin. You want Time Square shiatty, you can still find it on 8th Ave to a degree. Go behind Port Authority on 9th if you're hankering for a mugging. Otherwise, just avoid Times Square at all costs because it is an infuriating place to walk through.
 
2011-12-21 05:46:28 PM  

squidgod2000: imashark: HeartBurnKid: [www.sugarandplummblog.com image 640x930]

I don't like the font on the sign. It should be something simple, like Copperplate Gothic, or Helvetica Neue.


Papyrus would be more appropriate


That would be more for a Chinese restaurant, especially if they've managed to get "Pan-Asian" or "Bistro" somewhere in the name.
 
2011-12-21 05:46:37 PM  

itazurakko: FreakinB: While I think the board is overstepping in this case, using Times Square as some sort of normal representation for the rest of New York doesn't exactly fly either.

Someone else posted upthread, it's interesting that probably Times Square is one of the LEAST representative places now because it's where all the tourists go. Same with North Michigan Ave. in Chicago - it's a giant outdoor mall now, pretty much. There's tons of one-off shops not far from there, but the one "gotta go to that location to shop because it's downtown!!!" thing is largely tourists and, largely chains.


Times Square absolutely is the least representative place now, in that people who live here avoid it if they can. It's such a mess with the constant crowds and all the shiat going on. It's been a bit better ever since they closed that section of Broadway to cars, but in general it's best to stay away if you're just trying to go about your everyday business. I'd estimate that at least 80% of the people in Times Square at any given time aren't from the area.

Rockefeller Center is like that too, especially at this time of year.
 
2011-12-21 05:47:28 PM  

itazurakko:

Here in the Midwest we have a lot of pretentious subdivisions that all want to call themselves some variety of "The X at Y" where more than often neither the X nor Y have anything to do with the actual geography of the place.

So when I want to parody those places, it's "The Turds at Dingleberry," has that nice "berry" faux-upper-crust-British feel going on. Soccer Mom lives there, driving the minivan with Snotleigh and Bratleigh in it.


Just because I remembered it, not that anyone cares:

Not far from me is one of the new hoity toity subdivisions. Probably no house in there is less than 900K-1 million+. (which around HERE, is MUCHO MONEY, average new house is about 250K)

It's called "Creek at Bridge Bay". I've lived here nearly all my life. 5 years ago this was a cornfield, I used to hunt there in my 20's. There's no bridge, no creek, and certainly no bay. Outside of the river, we're landlocked.

It just pisses me off to drive by it.

csb

/jeebuz, I'm a cranky biatch today.
 
2011-12-21 05:52:39 PM  
Went with a female friend to Babeland, a sex shop in SoHo recently.

There were so many women in this shop I could not believe it. It proved to me that it doesn't matter what the product is - if you sell it in an atmosphere that is desirable to your potential clients they will come.

It was not seedy at like like others I've been in. Really posh. Almost creepy.
 
2011-12-21 05:56:49 PM  
funtimeshad.com
 
2011-12-21 05:59:11 PM  

The_EliteOne: Went with a female friend to Babeland, a sex shop in SoHo recently.

There were so many women in this shop I could not believe it. It proved to me that it doesn't matter what the product is - if you sell it in an atmosphere that is desirable to your potential clients they will come.

It was not seedy at like like others I've been in. Really posh. Almost creepy.


I think that used to be called Toys in Babeland. Went there years ago to buy a vibrator to surprise my gf with. I really just wanted to get in and out (NPI) but they kept me there for way too long explaining the proper care and cleaning of the thing. Awkward.
But hot.
 
2011-12-21 05:59:38 PM  

FreakinB: Rockefeller Center is like that too, especially at this time of year.


Heh. I'll bet. I mean, they show the skating rink on SNL, and they had an article about the tree-lighting and "how NYC!!" in the paper I subscribe to - a Japanese paper.

mcwehrle: It's called "Creek at Bridge Bay". I've lived here nearly all my life. 5 years ago this was a cornfield, I used to hunt there in my 20's. There's no bridge, no creek, and certainly no bay. Outside of the river, we're landlocked.

It just pisses me off to drive by it.


SRSLY. By me if they wanted to be honest, they should call them "Retention Ponds[1] at Endless Prairie" or some shiat...

[1] for the strip malls, of course. That, or if they needed to build an overpass, well, they have to get the dirt from somewhere, so hey, here's a little pond!
 
2011-12-21 06:02:42 PM  

HeartBurnKid: [www.sugarandplummblog.com image 640x930]

OK, the red carpet and the Willy Wonka doorman might be a bit much.


Jebus, that's so sweet and adorable I need an accucheck STAT!
 
2011-12-21 06:10:42 PM  

itazurakko: FreakinB: Rockefeller Center is like that too, especially at this time of year.

Heh. I'll bet. I mean, they show the skating rink on SNL, and they had an article about the tree-lighting and "how NYC!!" in the paper I subscribe to - a Japanese paper.

mcwehrle: It's called "Creek at Bridge Bay". I've lived here nearly all my life. 5 years ago this was a cornfield, I used to hunt there in my 20's. There's no bridge, no creek, and certainly no bay. Outside of the river, we're landlocked.

It just pisses me off to drive by it.

SRSLY. By me if they wanted to be honest, they should call them "Retention Ponds[1] at Endless Prairie" or some shiat...

[1] for the strip malls, of course. That, or if they needed to build an overpass, well, they have to get the dirt from somewhere, so hey, here's a little pond!


That...would be the pond at the "The Cove Apartments" in a town near here. "Hey! We need fill to make this nubianrdly rock pile useful! Have a pond!" They put a farkin water spray in the middle and everything. REALLY? *shakes head* COVE? This place is 20 miles from the farkin RIVER!
 
2011-12-21 06:11:37 PM  

mcwehrle: It's called "Creek at Bridge Bay". I've lived here nearly all my life. 5 years ago this was a cornfield, I used to hunt there in my 20's. There's no bridge, no creek, and certainly no bay. Outside of the river, we're landlocked.

It just pisses me off to drive by it.


I hear you. Where I live, there's a ton of this sort of thing:

longrealty.fnistools.com


It means "no cows."

Essentially, the higher your property values, the less likely the Spanish name of your street or subdivision will make any sense.
 
2011-12-21 06:12:47 PM  
I'm for anything that annoys New Yorkers who think their city is the center of the universe.
 
2011-12-21 06:13:58 PM  
Holy fark!! They sell rice crispie treats for 12.95 must be the "dreamy ghana milk chocolate"
 
2011-12-21 06:15:50 PM  

groppet: Holy fark!! They sell rice crispie treats for 12.95 must be the "dreamy ghana milk chocolate"


That's fair trade dreamy ghana milk chocolate.

As in: they dream of one day not having a job that entails harvesting cacao beans at gunpoint
 
2011-12-21 06:15:51 PM  

elev8meL8r: mcwehrle: It's called "Creek at Bridge Bay". I've lived here nearly all my life. 5 years ago this was a cornfield, I used to hunt there in my 20's. There's no bridge, no creek, and certainly no bay. Outside of the river, we're landlocked.

It just pisses me off to drive by it.

I hear you. Where I live, there's a ton of this sort of thing:

[longrealty.fnistools.com image 600x369]


It means "no cows."

Essentially, the higher your property values, the less likely the Spanish name of your street or subdivision will make any sense.


That.Is.Funny.

And I have to wonder....do ANY of them realize how ridiculous the names are?

Probably not. Too busy looking down their noses at the "common addresses"....like mine....heh
 
2011-12-21 06:20:33 PM  
Oh yeah... we have at least a couple "The ___ Cove/Coves" too. This is one of the "coves":

www.tucsonweekly.com
 
2011-12-21 06:23:37 PM  

skullkrusher: xsarien: skullkrusher: fark you, LPC

Are you really hurting for an over-priced candy shop on the UWS?

it's not that. It's the fact that that building is otherwise unnoticeable. It's a farking apartment building. There is a Giggle across the street which is all about pastels and bright colors in the window, 2 blocks away Amsterdam Video had a corset clad mannequin advertising their sex toys in the window for years. The LPC and their power hungry local busybodies on the community board are a bunch of farkwads with capricious rulings and some sense of sanctimonious attachment to the neighborhood "aesthetic".
Guess what, 15-20 years ago the neighborhood aesthetic was "bullet holes".

Hate the LPC.
Like candy.


No, it wasn't. More like 45 years ago, maybe.
 
2011-12-21 06:24:11 PM  

elev8meL8r: Oh yeah... we have at least a couple "The ___ Cove/Coves" too. This is one of the "coves":

[www.tucsonweekly.com image 373x500]


sweet. I've been looking for pics, but apparently all my examples are so ridiculous, they aren't even on the intertubes.

My particular "Cove" has a railroad switch station on one side, and a Wal Mart on the other......the only waterfowl that cove ever sees are the garbage gulls from the wally world parking lot.
 
2011-12-21 06:25:56 PM  

elev8meL8r: mcwehrle: It's called "Creek at Bridge Bay". I've lived here nearly all my life. 5 years ago this was a cornfield, I used to hunt there in my 20's. There's no bridge, no creek, and certainly no bay. Outside of the river, we're landlocked.

It just pisses me off to drive by it.

I hear you. Where I live, there's a ton of this sort of thing:

[longrealty.fnistools.com image 600x369]


It means "no cows."

Essentially, the higher your property values, the less likely the Spanish name of your street or subdivision will make any sense you raise cattle.

 
2011-12-21 06:29:02 PM  

mcwehrle: They put a farkin water spray in the middle and everything.


The fountains are fairly standard - if they don't include those to churn up the water surface, the retention pond basically becomes the Municipal Mosquito Farm. As it is, it's merely the Municipal Goose (Shiat) Farm.

groppet: "dreamy ghana milk chocolate"


Meiji (Japanese candy company) has had a Ghana chocolate bar for years. Tasty (I like Japanese chocolate, they learned from the Europeans so it's nice and smooth).

elev8meL8r: It means "no cows."


Wow. Now that is a crazy ostentatious sign.

Though at first I misread it as "Sin Vegas," which might be more interesting as a subdivision theme...
 
2011-12-21 06:29:18 PM  

The_EliteOne: Went with a female friend to Babeland, a sex shop in SoHo recently.

There were so many women in this shop I could not believe it. It proved to me that it doesn't matter what the product is - if you sell it in an atmosphere that is desirable to your potential clients they will come.

It was not seedy at like like others I've been in. Really posh. Almost creepy.



Atmosphere is the key. Toys in Babeland was opened by a couple women who wanted to make sex toys "safe" for women and generally preach the whole sex-positive philosophy. They are an inspiration.
 
2011-12-21 06:34:38 PM  

itazurakko: mcwehrle: They put a farkin water spray in the middle and everything.

The fountains are fairly standard - if they don't include those to churn up the water surface, the retention pond basically becomes the Municipal Mosquito Farm. As it is, it's merely the Municipal Goose (Shiat) Farm.

Very, very true.

elev8meL8r: It means "no cows."

Wow. Now that is a crazy ostentatious sign.

Though at first I misread it as "Sin Vegas," which might be more interesting as a subdivision theme...


Heh, I'd move there.....

/say she who lives on St. Philomena
//But St. Phil church is 3 blocks away. I'll give them that.
///St Phil school across the street at end of my block
 
2011-12-21 06:52:58 PM  

rocinante721: Believe me ... 10 years ago that neighborhood Sugar & Plumm Purveyors of Cum nudie booth shoppes


No it wasnt your off by about 30 blocks
 
2011-12-21 06:54:28 PM  

itazurakko: People apparently like to shop in the chains, though.


its amazing they come here and buy the same dam stuff in the local mall but think its a big deal because its "from New York"

I hate tourists but have no problem with visitors
 
2011-12-21 07:12:18 PM  

Lipspinach: Old-sour-pickle-chips: Lipspinach: Old-sour-pickle-chips: lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?

Or "needs to be toned down" would work.
That annoyed me too.
Oh well, on to more important things.

Can you understand what is being said. Yes? Then STFU.

Well, I did say "on to more important things", douchebag.
A book that I recommend is called You Are What You Speak. It addresses this "can you understand it?" subject very well. BTW I'm all for "can you understand it", but sometimes grammar mistakes annoy me anyway.
In conclusion, EABOD.

For someone so touchy about language, your use of "EABOD" amuses me.


Glad you got the joke!
I'm not really all that touchy. Just feeling a little spunky today.
 
2011-12-21 07:19:08 PM  
And BTW, I really do subscribe to the theory that if you can understand it, it's correct. That's the premise, in a nutshell, of the book I mentioned.
 
2011-12-21 07:19:49 PM  

itazurakko: But you have to wonder, were those five local businesses actually staying afloat?


Well one of the stores was making it but the rent went from 18k a month for a 12 ft wide store to 46k.

It was a small ethnic and vintage jewelry and repair. And one of my mums fave places. It was the owner and 3 employes the jewelry repair guy was from Nepal and some kind of political refuge.

He was there for 12? years or so lived in the area as did most of roating group of sales people. but the store has been closed for close to a year now.

(im still pissed the local veg store was priced out and its now a place for Dog Clothing it was less than a block from my elderly mum it made her living alone at more than 70 years old much easier)
 
2011-12-21 07:22:24 PM  
I know a great place for all the candy store haters to move to instead:

i137.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-21 08:05:59 PM  

Old-sour-pickle-chips: Lipspinach: Old-sour-pickle-chips: Lipspinach: Old-sour-pickle-chips: lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?

Or "needs to be toned down" would work.
That annoyed me too.
Oh well, on to more important things.

Can you understand what is being said. Yes? Then STFU.

Well, I did say "on to more important things", douchebag.
A book that I recommend is called You Are What You Speak. It addresses this "can you understand it?" subject very well. BTW I'm all for "can you understand it", but sometimes grammar mistakes annoy me anyway.
In conclusion, EABOD.

For someone so touchy about language, your use of "EABOD" amuses me.

Glad you got the joke!
I'm not really all that touchy. Just feeling a little spunky today.


Cheers!
 
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