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OK, the red carpet and the Willy Wonka doorman might be a bit much.

I'm a horrible person in the fact that I love it. I'm not sure which would amuse me more, going by myself or watching the annoyance cross my husband's face if I took him. We need one in Springfield, MO, stat!

Lipspinach: Old-sour-pickle-chips: lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?

Or "needs to be toned down" would work.
That annoyed me too.
Oh well, on to more important things.

Can you understand what is being said. Yes? Then STFU.

Irrigardless, it ain't good grammer.

I Said: Frasier: I've got it, Niles, I've got it! Le Freres Heureux.
Niles: "The Happy Brothers"... Brilliant! It's homey, but just hard enough to pronounce to intimidate the riff-raff!
Frasier: Yes! We'll make the place very, very exclusive! No sign on the outside, no advertisements and oh, an unlisted number!
Martin: Hey, well don't stop there! Maybe you could post some guards on the roof who can shoot people as they try to get in.
Frasier: Never mind him. I believe, Niles. Do you believe?
Niles: I believe

That exchange was the first thing I thought of when I read the linked article.

Incidentally, I'm not familiar with the "Sugar & Plumm" chain. Is it overpriced bulk candy or do they actually make their own sweets?

natas6.0: Fark NY
came here to say that.
Buncha whiny biatches

All this over a candy store? What happened to New Yorkers? I can't believe how wimpy and whiny they seemed to have gotten over the last 10-15 years. Is this Giuliani's fault?

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OK, the red carpet and the Willy Wonka doorman might be a bit much.

Kee-Rist that is gay.
/and purple is NOT a good color for anyfarking thing.
//crazy chicks lurve purple
///one way to avoid crazy chicks

brap: My card sir....

Detroit Slimm: Purveyor of Quim

Oh yeah, pimpin' just got a whoooooole lot easier.

Shouldn't that be

Honululu Spliff: Purveyor of Queef??

/it's all in saying "Spleeef"

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OK, the red carpet and the Willy Wonka doorman might be a bit much.

I don't like the font on the sign. It should be something simple, like Copperplate Gothic, or Helvetica Neue.

And for the love of mike, White on light purple? What's the matter with you?

I say cutesie it up even more, give the biggest middle finger possible to those neighborhood snobs.

NDP2: Incidentally, I'm not familiar with the "Sugar & Plumm" chain. Is it overpriced bulk candy or do they actually make their own sweets?

Judging by the website, a little from column A, a little from column B. Link (new window)

I like my candy stores to be in the brutalist architectural style.

fark the casbah: MoronLessOff: Beffa's in St. Louis is in an unmarked building. I hear they also don't have prices listed. Never been, but I hear it's good.

Is that the little bar next to the FIrebird? Was just looking at street view and it shows that building.

It's on the corner. The entrance is actually in the back of the building.

nobody11155: One major point in the work was that in the long run the least successful neighborhoods are those that enforce conformity in appearance and useage.

As someone else mentioned upthread though, this specific kind of argument is interesting because you have a neighborhood trying to mandate "blending into the neighborhood" which would actually mean a sort of NON-conformity from the point of view of the store, which is absolutely trying to be 100% conforming to the corporate branding specs for the chain storefront.

The store wants to defy the neighborhood mandate toward "funky non-conformingness, like all the rest of our neighborhood buildings" by being so daring as to install a non-compliant 100% bog-standard chain store sign.

/I wonder if the Plumm place sells popcorn?

lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?

The "needs Xed" is actually a pretty common syntactic construction in the Midwest. The way I gloss the sentence in my head is "The whole thing needs to be toned down" with a copula deletion, which occurs with fair frequency in Romance languages, including English. I wouldn't say it is "wrong" so much as it is a regionalism. It may sound weird to your ears, but it's perfectly acceptable to say in most parts of Michigan or Ohio. For more on this, the guys at Link (new window) do a great discussion on the "needs Xed" construction.

Those five storefronts closed within a breath of each other, so Sugar and Plumm and whatever likely got cozy with the building owner.

The real issue here is that they were five local businesses while the candy store is a chain operated out of Connecticut, the language of the LPC is just the - and pardon the phrasing - icing on the cake.

How about a low-key sign that reads, "fark you, hipster douchebags"?

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OK, the red carpet and the Willy Wonka doorman might be a bit much.

I like it. It's a candy store. It should be fanciful and over the top.

But I'm from the boring midwest, what the fark do I know?

I would so go there, however.

*eyes picture*

Wait. That's it? Really?

I was expecting eyeblinding colors and patterns on the outside walls, flashing lights, and giant cartoon characters pointing to the door, not....a straightlaced granite wall with a large purple sign on it.

Seriously. That's IT?

Okay, the Willy Wonka and the red carpet is pushing it a tad, but that's probably just the opening week. SHEESH!

/actually the red carpet is kinda cool. The 6 year old me would have been all over that.

mark12A: the hottest new candy store in town is called Chocolate Taint

HA. Exactly. "Plumm?" Oh it's that THING[1], you know, that THING, where a Rastafarian midget pants his balls purple and wades around in a tub of sake..."

[1] Cracks me up every time. That THING, like of course, everyone has heard of it and just needs a slight REMINDER...

Lipspinach: Old-sour-pickle-chips: lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?

Or "needs to be toned down" would work.
That annoyed me too.
Oh well, on to more important things.

Can you understand what is being said. Yes? Then STFU.

Well, I did say "on to more important things", douchebag.
A book that I recommend is called You Are What You Speak. It addresses this "can you understand it?" subject very well. BTW I'm all for "can you understand it", but sometimes grammar mistakes annoy me anyway.
In conclusion, EABOD.

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I don't like the font on the sign. It should be something simple, like Copperplate Gothic, or Helvetica Neue.


Papyrus would be more appropriate

xsarien: Those five storefronts closed within a breath of each other, so Sugar and Plumm and whatever likely got cozy with the building owner.

The real issue here is that they were five local businesses while the candy store is a chain operated out of Connecticut, the language of the LPC is just the - and pardon the phrasing - icing on the cake.

But you have to wonder, were those five local businesses actually staying afloat? Or were people happy to walk by the local businesses while headed on their way to a chain that will sell them a cake for cheaper, because, well, who wants to be the chump that overspends on cake?

I'm sympathetic to the local stores, and try to shop local. But we have debates about this sort of thing on a neighborhood forum as well, and there's something to be said for asking, really, when we like the local stores for atmosphere, do we really shop there? Or do we want someone ELSE to shop there, but we don't want to spend the time sorting through a unique one-off menu or shopping policy and higher prices, because it's easier to just go with the standardized experience we know?

And yeah, all strip malls (and urban shopping strips for that matter) look more and more the same with every passing day, not only in the US either. We're beyond chains, now - it's chains of chains, and the days when a chain store would move into a regular building and just put up a sign (however ugly) are disappearing, particularly in the strip malls. Now all the stores have to have their own branded buildings (prime example: Best Buy) which makes their abandoned storefronts really hard to reuse. You maybe get another small local business (or law firm!) in one, but a rival chain won't want to reuse.

Stay classy NY.
St Jesus Pharmacy with walk up Lottery window. (new window)

yeah, pure class, that town.
/4180 Broadway

j__z: I like my candy stores to be in the brutalist architectural style.

Kruschev?

Magorn: Gentrification is one of those sadly inevitable facts of life, but I never realized how clueless and insular the gentrifier can be until I saw them work up close and personal when I moved to the Lakeview neighborhood in Chicago in the early 2000's. Lakeview was basically Chicago's "Boystown" neighborhood, with N. Halstead street in particular boasting the sort of bars and shops that would fit right in in say the Castro in SF.

That didn't deter a developer from making a building of $400,000 three bedroom "luxury family" condos right next store to a gay strip club called, I swear, "The Man Hole".

And sure enough within weeks of the condos opening up, the bar owner started getting hit with noise complaints, investigations in his liquor license, complaints about loitering outside his club, etc etc etc.

What did people THINK living next a place called that was gonna be like?

hehehe. Man, I have friends that frequent Boystown, and I never heard of that. I'm going to have to ask for some stories.

/sitting in pretty much ungentrified Jefferson Park

UWS = cranky old jews.

If the pigeon in the park sits on the wrong statue, they complain. Its in their DNA.

Allen. The end.: j__z: I like my candy stores to be in the brutalist architectural style.

Kruschev?

Stalin.

natas6.0: Fark NY
came here to say that.
Buncha whiny biatches

Agreed. The farking snow birds from NY are one of the parts of FL im going to be very happy to leave behind.


/leaving FL forever in aprox 6 weeks

Tellingthem: Yep, In my neighborhood they did the same. Built a bunch of condos and started shutting down dive bars. Now we have mostly "clubs" instead. It doesn't bother me much it is just the way things are. i just happened to live in a now trendy neighborhood.

This happens where rural places or small towns are converted into exurbs/suburbs/bedroom communities, too, only instead of people loitering outside a gay bar, you have agricultural smells.

People move in, and then start whining that it's loud, or that it smells, or that farm equipment is damaging the road, or that dust blows around.

Thing is, I suspect that both the people who moved in next to the gay bar AND the people who moved next to the working farms initially saw those things as part of the charm of the location. People moving next to the gay bar (standard gentrification wave) see themselves as "adventurous" and wouldn't want to live next to a Starbucks like all of their more yuppified friends. People moving next to the farm like to chat up their friends about how "rural" they are because they can see corn from the front yard.

So they both whine, but even while whining you know they'd both whine AGAIN if the gay bar or the farm were replaced with a suburban style strip mall complete with a GAP and Starbucks in it...

...just as the people in TFA are shocked not so much by the purple sign but that ZOMG, a chain has moved in. It has locations in a mall, for heaven's sake.

/have to say "the Manhole" is an awesome name for a bar though

I Said: Frasier: I've got it, Niles, I've got it! Le Freres Heureux.

No Heureux tag?

Our awesome local candy store:

First thing I thought of when i read the description:



/god I miss that show
//even though it was cloyingly sweet at times

Magorn: What did people THINK living next a place called that was gonna be like?

Easy to change to their liking, apparently.

A Wild Snorlax: lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?

The "needs Xed" is actually a pretty common syntactic construction in the Midwest. The way I gloss the sentence in my head is "The whole thing needs to be toned down" with a copula deletion, which occurs with fair frequency in Romance languages, including English. I wouldn't say it is "wrong" so much as it is a regionalism. It may sound weird to your ears, but it's perfectly acceptable to say in most parts of Michigan or Ohio. For more on this, the guys at Link (new window) do a great discussion on the "needs Xed" construction.

This! Came here to say something to that effect. It's perfectly grammatical here in Utah too. I believe (if I remember correctly) that it was brought over with Scots-Irish English and is common in areas with lots of their descendants.

skullkrusher: fark you, LPC

Are you really hurting for an over-priced candy shop on the UWS?

Around 2005 when Little Five Points was gentrifying fast a local artist made this.



Gentrification has ups and downs. I lamented the hood getting less cool, but I had to hit the floor about once every few months when the gunshots were too close and the sharp reduction in street dealers improved the quality of life. Sometimes, it's inevitable. Learn to flow with it.

Aerdrie

We need one in Springfield, MO, stat!


I'm sure a place in Missourah is next on their list, right after NYC.

Formerly "Sugar and Paoi"

Old-sour-pickle-chips: Lipspinach: Old-sour-pickle-chips: lysdexic: The whole thing needs toned down.

ARRRRRRRGE

Needs toning down.

/subject-verb agreement, how does it fakring work?

Or "needs to be toned down" would work.
That annoyed me too.
Oh well, on to more important things.

Can you understand what is being said. Yes? Then STFU.

Well, I did say "on to more important things", douchebag.
A book that I recommend is called You Are What You Speak. It addresses this "can you understand it?" subject very well. BTW I'm all for "can you understand it", but sometimes grammar mistakes annoy me anyway.
In conclusion, EABOD.

For someone so touchy about language, your use of "EABOD" amuses me.