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greenbowlpacker

2011-12-21 09:39:09 AM

OregonVet

2011-12-21 09:39:38 AM

Does seem kinda useless.

/761

ksobby

2011-12-21 09:43:05 AM

greenbowlpacker: [www.ohowihateohiostate.com image 250x330]

Did SI recycle that headline for Sandusky?

The Singing Bush

2011-12-21 09:43:47 AM

Buckeys?

Dick Gozinya

2011-12-21 09:47:02 AM

Not an ohio st fan or supporter, but this seems stupid and pointless. Let's punish the players who weren't involved with this crap and while the ones that were get away scot free.

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 09:49:29 AM

What is a "buckey"???

Lost Thought 00

2011-12-21 09:50:14 AM

So this means that Penn State is getting banned for the next millenia, right?

jayhawk88

2011-12-21 09:56:39 AM

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 09:59:46 AM

Lost Thought 00: So this means that Penn State is getting banned for the next millenia, right?

Nope, because they did not break any NCAA rules. How is that for farked up?

Aar1012

2011-12-21 10:08:07 AM

chuckufarlie: Lost Thought 00: So this means that Penn State is getting banned for the next millenia, right?

Nope, because they did not break any NCAA rules. How is that for farked up?

I'm waiting to see if the Miami thing goes anywhere

xtragrind

2011-12-21 10:11:48 AM

chuckufarlie: Nope, because they did not break any NCAA rules. How is that for farked up?

Jury is still out. Failure to monitor or lack of institution control could possibly be applied to the Penn State mess.

I'm shocked that Gene Smith is still around at tOSU. The guy turned a bad situation into a disaster. Should have suspended Pryor's dumbass in the Arkansas game the second he heard about the infractions. Posey and should have also been kicked off the team for the job infraction. Any of these steps would have lessened the NCAA hammer. Word is that Urban is already pissed because Smith assured him that no additional grief was coming down from the NCAA.

Also LOL at Pryor who sat in the NCAA interview room and spilled the beans on everyone. He knew he was leaving and still decided to screw over his former coaches and all his teammates. My buddy is a head coach of another sport here at tOSU and he tells me that the NCAA got pages of material when Pryor decided to rat everyone out.

Killer Cars

2011-12-21 10:13:35 AM

Dick Gozinya: Not an ohio st fan or supporter, but this seems stupid and pointless. Let's punish the players who weren't involved with this crap and while the ones that were get away scot free.

Tressel has a five year show cause, so I wouldn't say those involved in this got away "scot free".

In general, I almost never agree with the NCAA on anything, but I accept the concept of these kinds of punishments. Singling out the sole perpetrators for violations when rosters on collegiate teams experience, essentially, a 25% turnover every season, and for the major sports coaches up and leave whenever, doesn't do anything to actually admonish the school which apparently allowed it to happen.

Does it suck for the rest of the students? Well, sure it does, but life sucks sometimes, and I remember damn well entering college at 18 and not wanting to be coddled like a child, so I'm not going to treat them like one now. Suck it up or transfer, bud, but someone before you farked up and the university has to pay.

Sillygoth

2011-12-21 10:14:14 AM

Aar1012: chuckufarlie: Lost Thought 00: So this means that Penn State is getting banned for the next millenia, right?

Nope, because they did not break any NCAA rules. How is that for farked up?

I'm waiting to see if the Miami thing goes anywhere

Exactly. I'm sorry, but compared to the level of shenanigans that went on at Thug U, Ohio State's violations are barely criminal at all.

I'm not saying that Ohio State didn't deserve some form of punishment, but Miami needs to get annihilated for the level of misconduct they were knowingly endorsing.

It's one thing to essentially trade your name or a trophy/trinket you were awarded for a free tattoo. I can honestly see both sides of the argument as to why it should or should not have been punished.
However, when you're farking prostitutes and partying at mansions where alcohol and possibly drugs are flowing like water...you KNOW you're not supposed to be doing that.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that at least part of this ban is due to SEC/U of F butthurt over Urban Meyer coming out of 'retirement' to go to the Big Ten.

Shaggy_C

2011-12-21 10:14:25 AM

True justice would be to shut down the entire football programme at the school for a year. Don't let them play even a single game. The players should be allowed to transfer away with their full scholarships still funded by OSU. Let the University administration feel the pinch when they lose the millions of dollars in revenue that come from football games. Let the howls from the alumni reach the front office and we'll see if any school ever decides to flaunt breaking NCAA rules again.

ongbok

2011-12-21 10:20:27 AM

Dick Gozinya: Not an ohio st fan or supporter, but this seems stupid and pointless. Let's punish the players who weren't involved with this crap and while the ones that were get away scot free.

What are they supposed to do? For one they are punishing the program for letting this happen. Two they are punishing Tressel because basically he is banned from coaching for 5 years. They can't punish the players that did it because they are now gone. I don't know if the players that are there now will be able to freely transfer because of this, if they aren't they should be, but this is really the only way to punish the program.

PanicMan

2011-12-21 10:25:12 AM

Fail tag is for submitter's spelling skills.

veedeevadeevoodee

2011-12-21 10:27:47 AM

Ohio State fan here (no, really?).

Lessons to be learned from this:

1) If a player knowingly breaks the rules, after he has been lectured again and again, and decided NOT to call the university compliance office to ensure whatever he/she wants to do is permitted under NCAA regulations ... THROW THEM UNDER THE BUS. NO EXCEPTIONS. GTFO AND TAKE YOUR FAIL WITH YOU

2) There is no excuse for Tressel's behavior. I'm sure he will say that he bought into the whole "we live and die as a team" thing ... but this in NOT the way to set an example for your players.

3) Gene Smith must have nekkid pics of Gordon Gee with sheep ... only reason he is still the AD.

careless lisper

2011-12-21 10:35:24 AM

Shaggy_C: True justice would be to shut down the entire football programme at the school for a year. Don't let them play even a single game. The players should be allowed to transfer away with their full scholarships still funded by OSU. Let the University administration feel the pinch when they lose the millions of dollars in revenue that come from football games. Let the howls from the alumni reach the front office and we'll see if any school ever decides to flaunt breaking NCAA rules again.

Lighten up, Francis. A couple dudes traded memorabilia. They weren't snorting coke off a hooker's ass on a yacht, covering up child abuse, or lighting pygmies on fire. I think the punishment fits the crime. Sure, it isn't fair for the current players though I do believe they should be allowed to transfer.

But you know what else isn't fair? I can't run a 4.3 40. No matter how hard I trained, I would never be able to do so. Just not wired that way. I'm also not 6' 5" and can't bench press a 76 Lincoln. Boo friggin' hoo. Being a moderately good high school football player (team captain, starter both ways) was the best I could ever achieve, given my genetics, but I can't complain.

Landing on a team that gets hit with NCAA sanctions sucks, but it's no different than getting a job with a firm that later goes bankrupt, or getting a great buy on a house and a Wal Mart gets built in your back yard. shiat happens. Make the best of it.

/hates OSU
//but come on

RichieLaw

2011-12-21 10:39:34 AM

I'm an Ohio State fan, and to be honest, I kind of think these punishments are fair. We farked up, Ohio State farked up - through Tressel - and this is what we deserve. The bowl ban should have been in place this year, but Smith gambled that there would be no bowl ban and decided to fight for the Big 10 championship. He should said we would forego a bowl this year and then we would have been sitting pretty for next year.

When you mess up, there are some consequences.

the1hatman

2011-12-21 10:45:27 AM

xtragrind: chuckufarlie: Nope, because they did not break any NCAA rules. How is that for farked up?

Jury is still out. Failure to monitor or lack of institution control could possibly be applied to the Penn State mess.

Neither applies. Penn State is facing Department of Education and/or federal sanctions. The Sandusky debacle had nothing to do with the athletics or academics of the students on the team or the eligibility of anyone participating in a NCAA sanctioned sport. It is well outside of the NCAA's mandate and is entirely a criminal matter. What happened there is much bigger than football and the penalties PSU may be facing are far more severe than anything that could happen to a sports team.

There is nothing farked up about that. Wanting the NCAA to do something in this matter is akin to asking Parking Enforcement to lead a crack down on drug trafficking. Wrong tool for the job.

the1hatman

2011-12-21 10:51:33 AM

Pretty much what careless lisper & RichieLaw just said. The program farked up and the punishment fits the crime. If Smith doesn't get canned for botching this up then veedeevadeevoodee must be right about point #3.

careless lisper

2011-12-21 10:56:45 AM

the1hatman: xtragrind: chuckufarlie: Nope, because they did not break any NCAA rules. How is that for farked up?

Jury is still out. Failure to monitor or lack of institution control could possibly be applied to the Penn State mess.

Neither applies. Penn State is facing Department of Education and/or federal sanctions. The Sandusky debacle had nothing to do with the athletics or academics of the students on the team or the eligibility of anyone participating in a NCAA sanctioned sport. It is well outside of the NCAA's mandate and is entirely a criminal matter. What happened there is much bigger than football and the penalties PSU may be facing are far more severe than anything that could happen to a sports team.

There is nothing farked up about that. Wanting the NCAA to do something in this matter is akin to asking Parking Enforcement to lead a crack down on drug trafficking. Wrong tool for the job.

Yup. If a PLAYER was humping kids under the department's watch and that got covered up while the athlete played during the time of his shenanigans, then it would be an NCAA matter. Penn State has bigger problems than the football problem right now, but this scandal has marred the reputation of the school so much that the football program will definitely be affected.

You're already facing an uphill battle trying to get elite athletes to come to bum-fark Pennsylvania. How many mom's and dad's are going to be trying to convince their sons that Penn State is the place for them now? It's not going to be easy. Sons of former players/coaches/etc. probably won't be affected as much, along with those who are from the surrounding communities. But it only makes sense that their national reach has to be affected by this.

careless lisper

2011-12-21 10:59:12 AM

the1hatman: Pretty much what careless lisper & RichieLaw just said.

Besides, if the NCAA just kills off every program that steps over the line, we'll be back to the days of Yale v. Harvard for the NC every year.

NOBODY WANTS THAT

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 11:01:15 AM

iron_city_ap

2011-12-21 11:07:56 AM

OSU shlould have gotten a 3 year ban. Miami should get a 5 year and PSU should figure out what they want to build in the space where the stadium currently stands.

the1hatman

2011-12-21 11:18:18 AM

iron_city_ap: OSU shlould have gotten a 3 year ban. Miami should get a 5 year and PSU should figure out what they want to build in the space where the stadium currently stands.

So tOSU's guys trading their stuff for tats rates just 2 less years than Tha U who's players got strippers & blow from a booster with connections to the school president. Meanwhile PSU gets the death penalty for something happpening outside of athletics.

Care to rationally justify any of that?

UNC_Samurai

2011-12-21 11:20:54 AM

ongbok: Dick Gozinya: Not an ohio st fan or supporter, but this seems stupid and pointless. Let's punish the players who weren't involved with this crap and while the ones that were get away scot free.

What are they supposed to do? For one they are punishing the program for letting this happen. Two they are punishing Tressel because basically he is banned from coaching for 5 years. They can't punish the players that did it because they are now gone. I don't know if the players that are there now will be able to freely transfer because of this, if they aren't they should be, but this is really the only way to punish the program.

Yeah, until the NCAA and the NFL/NFLPA decide that it's worth punishing players in the pros for college transgressions, college players with a future on Sundays have almost no deterrent.

Granted, a lot of this could be solved if the NCAA would just allow athletes to have sponsorships, like Olympic athletes. Their athletes aren't amateurs except in name now.

JohnAnnArbor

2011-12-21 11:20:55 AM

chuckufarlie: Shaggy_C: True justice would be to shut down the entire football programme at the school for a year. Don't let them play even a single game. The players should be allowed to transfer away with their full scholarships still funded by OSU. Let the University administration feel the pinch when they lose the millions of dollars in revenue that come from football games. Let the howls from the alumni reach the front office and we'll see if any school ever decides to flaunt breaking NCAA rules again.

How ARE things in ANN ARBOR????

Foggy today. And they said the fog would go away after morning rush. WRONG.

Farnn

2011-12-21 11:21:33 AM

When fans of the team think the punishment is fair, you know they aren't harsh enough. My main gripe is what happened to the NCAA's 2 for1 policy? With Michigan, the punishment was a loss of double the amount of time they went over NCAA limits for stretching too much. OSU rushed their original investigation and said a week after the tattoo story broke that there were no other problems with their athletic department. This allowed them to play in a BCS bowl game with ineligible players based on the premise that those players would all return and serve their suspensions the next season. Then Pryor left so he never got any punishment. I know part of the issue is the corrupt beast that is the bowl system, but the farce of an investigation last December should warrant a two bowl ban.

Shaggy_C

2011-12-21 11:22:55 AM

careless lisper: Lighten up, Francis. A couple dudes traded memorabilia. They weren't snorting coke off a hooker's ass on a yacht, covering up child abuse, or lighting pygmies on fire. I think the punishment fits the crime. Sure, it isn't fair for the current players though I do believe they should be allowed to transfer.

Taking away a bowl game isn't a punishment at all. Ohio State is still on TV every single weekend. They still are allowed to be ranked in the polls. They can still go out and recruit players. They are going to be considered a high value target for NFL scouts. The university will still bring in millions of dollars in revenue from sold-out home games. Sure, they lose the 'prestige' of playing in a bowl game. However, I posit that in this day and age when fully 50% of college teams play in a bowl, the meaning is significantly less than it used to be. It's barely a slap on the wrist and you know it.

LL316

2011-12-21 11:23:29 AM

funktilious_j

2011-12-21 11:24:15 AM

I am of a mind that the punishment was a bit light. School was already on probation because of the basketball program. Tressell, the paragon of virtue, most upstanding man in the universe, knew what was going on. Maybe not lack of Institutional control, but I also don't think it was failure to monitor, Vest Man knew it was going on, did nothing. I think it was kinda in between the two classifications, maybe "Lack of failure to monitor".

UNC_Samurai

2011-12-21 11:29:25 AM

the1hatman: iron_city_ap: OSU shlould have gotten a 3 year ban. Miami should get a 5 year and PSU should figure out what they want to build in the space where the stadium currently stands.

So tOSU's guys trading their stuff for tats rates just 2 less years than Tha U who's players got strippers & blow from a booster with connections to the school president. Meanwhile PSU gets the death penalty for something happpening outside of athletics.

Care to rationally justify any of that?

In the case of Penn State, it's fully justified. A series of child molestation crimes were covered up to protect the image of a college football program. The athletic director and university president were complicit in the conspiracy because Penn State football is one of the largest college football brands. Above and beyond the rules in the NCAA booklet, you still have to follow the law. In this case, the program made a decision to place itself above the law to protect its revenue stream. It shouldn't be just the NCAA that eliminates the program, it should be the state of Pennsylvania, and MSACS should threaten their accreditation for allowing university administration to be complicit on behalf of a profitable arm of the university.

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 11:38:06 AM

xtragrind: chuckufarlie: Nope, because they did not break any NCAA rules. How is that for farked up?

Jury is still out. Failure to monitor or lack of institution control could possibly be applied to the Penn State mess.

I'm shocked that Gene Smith is still around at tOSU. The guy turned a bad situation into a disaster. Should have suspended Pryor's dumbass in the Arkansas game the second he heard about the infractions. Posey and should have also been kicked off the team for the job infraction. Any of these steps would have lessened the NCAA hammer. Word is that Urban is already pissed because Smith assured him that no additional grief was coming down from the NCAA.

Also LOL at Pryor who sat in the NCAA interview room and spilled the beans on everyone. He knew he was leaving and still decided to screw over his former coaches and all his teammates. My buddy is a head coach of another sport here at tOSU and he tells me that the NCAA got pages of material when Pryor decided to rat everyone out.

Pryor, like most college football players, is a whiny ass spoiled kid who thinks that his shiat don't stink. Most college football players are nothing but thugs. They should just play them to play and start being honest. 99% of these clowns are not STUDENT/athletes.

And then they go and muck things up in the NFL.

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 11:39:32 AM

UNC_Samurai: the1hatman: iron_city_ap: OSU shlould have gotten a 3 year ban. Miami should get a 5 year and PSU should figure out what they want to build in the space where the stadium currently stands.

So tOSU's guys trading their stuff for tats rates just 2 less years than Tha U who's players got strippers & blow from a booster with connections to the school president. Meanwhile PSU gets the death penalty for something happpening outside of athletics.

Care to rationally justify any of that?

In the case of Penn State, it's fully justified. A series of child molestation crimes were covered up to protect the image of a college football program. The athletic director and university president were complicit in the conspiracy because Penn State football is one of the largest college football brands. Above and beyond the rules in the NCAA booklet, you still have to follow the law. In this case, the program made a decision to place itself above the law to protect its revenue stream. It shouldn't be just the NCAA that eliminates the program, it should be the state of Pennsylvania, and MSACS should threaten their accreditation for allowing university administration to be complicit on behalf of a profitable arm of the university.

You need to up your meds and calm down. Lots of speculation in your post, but that is all.

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 11:40:46 AM

funktilious_j: I am of a mind that the punishment was a bit light. School was already on probation because of the basketball program. Tressell, the paragon of virtue, most upstanding man in the universe, knew what was going on. Maybe not lack of Institutional control, but I also don't think it was failure to monitor, Vest Man knew it was going on, did nothing. I think it was kinda in between the two classifications, maybe "Lack of failure to monitor".

The idea that you should base the punishment on another program at the school is just plain stupid.

Shaggy_C

2011-12-21 11:42:32 AM

chuckufarlie: The idea that you should base the punishment on another program at the school is just plain stupid.

Exactly. It's not like they roll up into the same athletics department or anything.

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 11:43:21 AM

JohnAnnArbor: chuckufarlie: Shaggy_C: True justice would be to shut down the entire football programme at the school for a year. Don't let them play even a single game. The players should be allowed to transfer away with their full scholarships still funded by OSU. Let the University administration feel the pinch when they lose the millions of dollars in revenue that come from football games. Let the howls from the alumni reach the front office and we'll see if any school ever decides to flaunt breaking NCAA rules again.

How ARE things in ANN ARBOR????

Foggy today. And they said the fog would go away after morning rush. WRONG.

That is not fog. What you have there is the steam rising from that big pile of shiat called UM.

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 11:44:40 AM

Shaggy_C: chuckufarlie: The idea that you should base the punishment on another program at the school is just plain stupid.

Exactly. It's not like they roll up into the same athletics department or anything.

Do you still eat paint chips??

Maybe every infraction by any team at a given college should resort in a punishment for all of the sports. Would you like that??

LesserEvil

2011-12-21 11:48:33 AM

Killer Cars: Dick Gozinya: Not an ohio st fan or supporter, but this seems stupid and pointless. Let's punish the players who weren't involved with this crap and while the ones that were get away scot free.

Tressel has a five year show cause, so I wouldn't say those involved in this got away "scot free".

In general, I almost never agree with the NCAA on anything, but I accept the concept of these kinds of punishments. Singling out the sole perpetrators for violations when rosters on collegiate teams experience, essentially, a 25% turnover every season, and for the major sports coaches up and leave whenever, doesn't do anything to actually admonish the school which apparently allowed it to happen.

Does it suck for the rest of the students? Well, sure it does, but life sucks sometimes, and I remember damn well entering college at 18 and not wanting to be coddled like a child, so I'm not going to treat them like one now. Suck it up or transfer, bud, but someone before you farked up and the university has to pay.

THIS.

When the violations and the cover up are basically allowed to happen by the school, the NCAA has no choice. Students who are "caught up" in the violations of others either stay and accept it, or transfer to another school. Nothing is stopping them from moving to another school and playing for somebody else.

The thing people don't really seem to mention when they say "what about the others..." is that these sorts of violations tend to be a lot more widespread than the net that's swept up the known violators. It's a pattern of behavior in a program, so I'd guess there are a lot of other violations the NCAA has caught wind of, but either has too little evidence or the violations aren't worth the time to further investigate (since the hammer's being brought down already). For all we know, they might have even chose to ignore something even worse, to avoid the always-controversial "death penalty" question.

At any rate, the punishment seems about right. Time will tell if the program changes its ways.

funktilious_j

2011-12-21 11:55:02 AM

chuckufarlie: funktilious_j: I am of a mind that the punishment was a bit light. School was already on probation because of the basketball program. Tressell, the paragon of virtue, most upstanding man in the universe, knew what was going on. Maybe not lack of Institutional control, but I also don't think it was failure to monitor, Vest Man knew it was going on, did nothing. I think it was kinda in between the two classifications, maybe "Lack of failure to monitor".

The idea that you should base the punishment on another program at the school is just plain stupid.

Stupid or not, it shows a severe deficiency in the athletic department's ability to monitor and control it's various programs. And the athletic department is ultimately responsible for all of those programs, be it football, basketball or the fencing team.

The_Six_Fingered_Man

2011-12-21 11:56:55 AM

Do I hate the punishment? Yes. Do I think it's appropriate? Yes, if not a bit light. OSU can do without 3 schollies a year no problem. I think they're actually under their allotment this year anyway. Another year of probation? Ok. Tressel's 5-year show cause? Sure thing, he wasn't likely to coach in college again anyway. Even the bowl ban doesn't bother me all that much. That was pretty much a given once they were hit with Failure to Monitor.

All in all, I think that the program got away with it a little. But that's a far cry from the gnashing of teeth you hear from Southern Cal. Listen guys, you had a player and his family living in a house that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars that was given to him by a potential agent. Quite a big difference. The NCAA will hammer ANYONE that has contact with an agent harder than just some kids getting discounts on tats or selling their memorabilia.

ha-ha-guy

2011-12-21 11:59:47 AM

Dick Gozinya: Not an ohio st fan or supporter, but this seems stupid and pointless. Let's punish the players who weren't involved with this crap and while the ones that were get away scot free.

tOSU farked itself on this one. They should have done a voluntary bowl ban this year (since the Gator Bowl is pretty sucky anyway). Next year Wisconsin loses a lot of people to the NFL, PSU is a giant mess, and so the door is open for a soph Braxton Miller to lead them to a division title and the conference championship game. Plus a decent bowl.

Only now no conference championship game (I assume they get a ban like USC did) and no bowl. But hey Buckeye fans can enjoy watching Dorsey light up the Gator Bowl...

Given that Tressel cut some corners to get them into the Sugar Bowl last year, there was clearly going to be a bowl ban to counter that. Should have taken it this year.

UNC_Samurai

2011-12-21 12:01:31 PM

chuckufarlie: UNC_Samurai: the1hatman: iron_city_ap: OSU shlould have gotten a 3 year ban. Miami should get a 5 year and PSU should figure out what they want to build in the space where the stadium currently stands.

So tOSU's guys trading their stuff for tats rates just 2 less years than Tha U who's players got strippers & blow from a booster with connections to the school president. Meanwhile PSU gets the death penalty for something happpening outside of athletics.

Care to rationally justify any of that?

In the case of Penn State, it's fully justified. A series of child molestation crimes were covered up to protect the image of a college football program. The athletic director and university president were complicit in the conspiracy because Penn State football is one of the largest college football brands. Above and beyond the rules in the NCAA booklet, you still have to follow the law. In this case, the program made a decision to place itself above the law to protect its revenue stream. It shouldn't be just the NCAA that eliminates the program, it should be the state of Pennsylvania, and MSACS should threaten their accreditation for allowing university administration to be complicit on behalf of a profitable arm of the university.

You need to up your meds and calm down. Lots of speculation in your post, but that is all.

Sorry if I hurt your feeling. The athletic director and the Vice-President of Finance and Business are up on perjury charges, and the director of police knew what was going on. I'm trying to establish that there is justification for terminating the football program because some people think conspiring to cover up diddling kids for the sake of the program's revenue stream is fine as long as they didn't break any NCAA rules.

mikaloyd

2011-12-21 12:02:17 PM

A coach at Pemm State traded sexual favors with a minor for a future walk on spot at Penn State. And you say that doesnt violate NCAA rules? Are tjhere ANY rules that apply to Penn State or is every behavior OK there according to you animals?

The Dreaded Rear Admiral

2011-12-21 12:06:42 PM

Lame. Not ridiculous, but lame. tOSU should turn around and say, "Ok, fine. Then we're not self-vacating last year's wins. Sugar Bowl victors, baby!"

/OSU fan
//these guys were dumb, but much worse goes on everyday at every major BCS football campus and doesn't get caught (including OSU)

chuckufarlie

2011-12-21 12:08:21 PM

mikaloyd: A coach at Pemm State traded sexual favors with a minor for a future walk on spot at Penn State. And you say that doesnt violate NCAA rules? Are tjhere ANY rules that apply to Penn State or is every behavior OK there according to you animals?

What is your source for this idea that the kid was promised a walk on spot?

Muta

2011-12-21 12:08:38 PM

jayhawk88: Also I love how USC is bent because their bowl ban was 2 years.

USC has a reason to biatch. If I recall, their infraction was by one player and it was covered up by one assistant coach. OSU had 5 players breaking the rules and it was covered up by the head coach. It seems OSU had a bigger infraction but a lesser punishment.

iron_city_ap

2011-12-21 12:12:29 PM

coolio mack

2011-12-21 12:16:30 PM

Muta: jayhawk88: Also I love how USC is bent because their bowl ban was 2 years.

USC has a reason to biatch. If I recall, their infraction was by one player and it was covered up by one assistant coach. OSU had 5 players breaking the rules and it was covered up by the head coach. It seems OSU had a bigger infraction but a lesser punishment.

Huge USC fan here The USC matter spanned two sports, with both Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo being found to have gotten benefits, leading Pete Tressel to run and Tim Floyd to resign. The whole OJ Mayo recruitment to begin with was extremely shady. But what killed USC (and why they probably got the lack of institutional control) was the consistent stonewalling of the NCAA investigation, and Mike Garret's hard ass attitude which eventually got him run out of there.

I think Ohio State got justly punished, and I'm glad to see Tressel get the worse of it. He was the guy who defiantly sat at the press conference before the Sugar Bowl and talked about how his kids needed to be punished without taking any of the blame himself. And then the whole show about the 2 game suspension early on with President Gee running his mouth about how lucky he was that Tressel couldn't fire him was just pathetic.

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