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hamdingers

2011-12-21 10:00:35 AM

I loved Dragon Age: Origins and I loved Dragon Age 2. I acknowledge most of the things folks don't like about it but I had a blast anyway.

enry

2011-12-21 10:03:52 AM

I enjoyed Dead Island though it did get a bit repetitive. DNF was pretty bad.

Now, for a real stinker: Flatout 3. The first time I ever wished I could get a refund from Steam.

Shaggy_C

2011-12-21 10:09:18 AM

hamdingers: I loved Dragon Age: Origins and I loved Dragon Age 2. I acknowledge most of the things folks don't like about it but I had a blast anyway.

Dragon Age II was an awesome game; I couldn't put the controller down. I never played the original, though, so maybe there was a big letdown there. The problem, as I understand it, is that it went from shiatty turn-based RPG to a 'hack and slash' action game. I prefer the latter, so I'm not even considering playing the first. I guess some people like the Final Fantasy-esque crap but for me it's boring.

Atomic Jonb

2011-12-21 10:12:47 AM

I can't wait for the new year to arrive.

moel

2011-12-21 10:13:57 AM

I liked DNF

however it's main bugbear for me, was the fact that the loading took days...i'm currently stuck in the slimy caves and i can't kill the flying octopus thing.

ArcadianRefugee

2011-12-21 10:14:10 AM

I loved Fallout Out New Vegas, especially with the bugs. OK
Favorite was, after a while for some reason, whenever I fast-traveled to Goodsprings one or more of a bark scorpion, rad scorpion, and/or a coyote would appear with me and immediately attack. 'Cept one time when the bark scorpion decided to turn and attack Easy Pete.

Poor Pete. I got tired of having to step over his corpse, so I drug him up to cemetery hill and plopped him in the open grave.

Masso

2011-12-21 10:20:01 AM

I definitely regret buying Dragon Age 2. What the hell happened? What happened to the diverse environments in the first games? What am I going down the same stupid copy-and-paste docks/caves/dungeons? Why the fark do I have only one viable healer on my team, who is an asshole and deserves to die, but I can't kill him because he's the only healer? Why is there ONE city? Where can't I hand down my teammate my old armor?

Last battle:
ME: "I'll protect you allies! I won't let these racist asshole kill you, thinking all mages will turn into demon!"
Allies: "RIGHT ON BROTHERS."
.. 10 minutes later
ME: "That's all you got? Bring it! Good will prevail"
Allies: "It's hopeless, we can't win. BLAARGH", turned into demons.
ME:..... fark YOU, Bioware.

CPennypacker

2011-12-21 10:24:06 AM

I disagree with assassin's creed. Take a couple of points off for den defense, fine. That was annoying as hell. But one of the most disappointing games of the year? The game was fantastic.

bsharitt

2011-12-21 10:24:36 AM

Even though I've heard DNF is pretty bad, I still picked it up for $5 on the Steam sale, mostly because I've never played it and still doubted it had actually been released. Unfortunately it was real.

DerPups

2011-12-21 10:24:58 AM

i thought dead island was awesome and still own it...

however i have to agree whole-heartedly on rage... big build up huge let-down...

manimal2878

2011-12-21 10:27:37 AM

Dead Island ruled, they should hire the writers of the trailer to write the sequel though.

Dragon Age II wasn't as good as I expected. I played through origins 4 times, but with the sequel it became so tedious I struggled to finish it and was glad when it ended.

Never even heard of the other games, or they looked like shiat enough that I wouldn't expect them to be good anyway.

TrancePI

2011-12-21 10:31:01 AM

Looking up top 20, glad to see Skyrim at #1.

I'm easily 40 hours into it and barely level 21. I dont get the impression that I will be completed with it anytime soon. I've become a damn crackshot with the Elven bow though.

/Sneak Damage x2

shakenasababy

2011-12-21 10:31:23 AM

For me personally the biggest let down was the Game of Thrones RTS. It had so much potential and then a crappy developer picked it up.

Old enough to know better

2011-12-21 10:37:45 AM

Maybe they patched it recently, but I've yet to notice all the bugs people biatch about in New Vegas. I've got about ten hours invented and the only glitches I've found were a couple of times when a stinging insect rezzed partly inside a boulder, and the new NCR sheriff in one of the towns early on was sleeping in bed on top of the previous sheriffs headless wife. I just figured he was into necro and moved on...

Splinshints

2011-12-21 10:38:31 AM

manimal2878: Dragon Age II wasn't as good as I expected. I played through origins 4 times, but with the sequel it became so tedious I struggled to finish it and was glad when it ended.

You got farther than I did. I got bored of the demo and uninstalled it before getting the whole way through it. I'm not opposed to button-mashing, but there are much better button-mashers available.

Keywork99

2011-12-21 10:43:04 AM

CPennypacker: I disagree with assassin's creed. Take a couple of points off for den defense, fine. That was annoying as hell. But one of the most disappointing games of the year? The game was fantastic.

I am loving AC:R; I played the multiplayer a little but decided to finish the campaign before getting back into it. But to be honest, I'm done with Ezio. I'm ready for AC3.

Deagan Herumor

2011-12-21 10:44:09 AM

Masso: I definitely regret buying Dragon Age 2. What the hell happened? What happened to the diverse environments in the first games? What am I going down the same stupid copy-and-paste docks/caves/dungeons? Why the fark do I have only one viable healer on my team, who is an asshole and deserves to die, but I can't kill him because he's the only healer? Why is there ONE city? Where can't I hand down my teammate my old armor?

Last battle:
ME: "I'll protect you allies! I won't let these racist asshole kill you, thinking all mages will turn into demon!"
Allies: "RIGHT ON BROTHERS."
.. 10 minutes later
ME: "That's all you got? Bring it! Good will prevail"
Allies: "It's hopeless, we can't win. BLAARGH", turned into demons.
ME:..... fark YOU, Bioware.

The great part of DA2 was for how unlikable the Templars were, they were right. Orsino is arguably more villainous than Meredith.

The idea of the game being the story of Kirkwall is fine, but the constantly reused maps was lame. Even if it is one city, not all the docks and warehouses and caves should be the same. Though Legacy was definitely fun. I had 2 healers and Carver was a 2H tank. Fun stuff.

Shakes999

2011-12-21 10:46:23 AM

Two Worlds 2 definitely belongs on the list. Playing the first hour or so you think its actually a pretty well put together Elder Scrolls type game. Then you get out of the tutorial and the game pretty much just crumbles. Also I know Hard Reset was never meant to be anything more than a slick looking Serious Sam but it still found a way to suck.

yves0010

2011-12-21 10:46:30 AM

What the crap! Rage, Dragon Age II and Assassin's Creed were awesome games! I loved them all. Rage I beat 5 times in a row continously. Assassin's Creed I love running around and replaying all the missions. Dragon Age II I have beaten 3 times with all three types of characters (Warrior, Mage and Rogue).

StrangeQ

2011-12-21 10:47:33 AM

TrancePI: Looking up top 20, glad to see Skyrim at #1.

I'm easily 40 hours into it and barely level 21. I dont get the impression that I will be completed with it anytime soon. I've become a damn crackshot with the Elven bow though.

/Sneak Damage x2

I've put it on hold until the CK comes out. I plan on completely redoing the armor and magic system since in their current form they're both pretty terrible.

Sandor at the Zoo

2011-12-21 10:50:59 AM

Keywork99: CPennypacker: I disagree with assassin's creed. Take a couple of points off for den defense, fine. That was annoying as hell. But one of the most disappointing games of the year? The game was fantastic.

I am loving AC:R; I played the multiplayer a little but decided to finish the campaign before getting back into it. But to be honest, I'm done with Ezio. I'm ready for AC3.

Agreed. It's pretty incredible how long they've managed to stretch out the modern-day story line. And it's not that the story is all that great, necessarily, but it does have me interested, and I really just want to see how the whole thing is wrapped up.

Malcolm_Sex

2011-12-21 10:51:09 AM

I had no interest in playing any of these games, save for Dragon Age origins, so none of these were anything near a disappointment. Was anyone super excited about "Jurassic Park: The Game"? How can you be disappointed with something that is obviously going to be crap?

Fricknmaniac

2011-12-21 10:51:29 AM

I expected Might and Magic: Heroes 6 to make the list. Originally it was supposed to come out in May, didn't come out until October, but shouldn't have been released until 2012. So ridiculously buggy that it's not even funny. It was technically a playable game, but so many features were rendered useless through various bugs that it more of a chore to play than fun. They just released a patch yesterday that fixed a lot of the glaring bugs... but not even close to all of them.

ag-ghm

2011-12-21 10:53:05 AM

Battlefield 3? I could play it for two weeks then an update shows up and I can't play shiat. I paid sixty bucks on a digital cockslap by EA's "totally-not-a-DRM" Origin- even though I had a hard copy from Gamestop.

I will say the two weeks I could play I was very impressed.

Nem Wan

2011-12-21 10:58:51 AM

I don't anything about Assassin's Creed except everything I see anything about it there's some guy wearing a face-obscuring hood which is not the most practical action gear.

Lumbar Puncture

2011-12-21 11:01:12 AM

Dead Island was repetitive and buggy as hell. I hope they get enough of a budget for the sequel to hire QA testers.

If the latest Assassin's Creed was the most disappointing game a person played this year, then they haven't played many other games. This is a year that had hyped games deliver poorly. Homefront, Brink, Conduit 2, Lost in Shadow, Call of Juarez: The Cartel, Catherine, Bloodrayne Betrayal, Spiderman: Edge of Time, the single player for BF3, LA Noire (at least I was disappointed), and so on.

Also, if someone was hugely disappointed in Two Worlds 2 after the mess that the first Two Worlds game was, then they have their expectations messed up. TW2 was just mediocre, but considering the mess that the first game was that was a vast improvement.

Personally the one I was disappointed with the most was Saints Row 3.

Meethos

2011-12-21 11:03:44 AM

Fricknmaniac: I expected Might and Magic: Heroes 6 to make the list. Originally it was supposed to come out in May, didn't come out until October, but shouldn't have been released until 2012. So ridiculously buggy that it's not even funny. It was technically a playable game, but so many features were rendered useless through various bugs that it more of a chore to play than fun. They just released a patch yesterday that fixed a lot of the glaring bugs... but not even close to all of them.

Your first clue should have been when they changed the name from Heroes of Might and Magic.

defiancecp

2011-12-21 11:04:52 AM

Dead island was a blast. Not that it's the greatest game ever or anything, but it's actually pretty good, and can get downright great with some minor tweaks. Launch was a first class failure, but they got things straightened up pretty quickly.

Also, anyone watching what was going on with Jurassic park shouldn't be disappointing. That was a turd we could see coming months away. Which is kinda sad, I tend to like telltale's stuff. Oh well.

Sandor at the Zoo

2011-12-21 11:04:58 AM

Does Duke Nukem really count as "disappointing"?

Tyrosine

2011-12-21 11:11:40 AM

They forgot Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 mission pack.

CephJedi

2011-12-21 11:14:40 AM

I played through the first three assassin's creeds while recovering from back surgery over the summer and just finished AC: Brotherhood. I thought Brotherhood brought just a little too much complexity to an otherwise great gameplay mechanic- specifically the camera problems. Whenever you got into combat the camera whizzed around like a gnat with vertigo and seemed to always settle on a spot behind a tree or wall, blocking the view. It was still a great game, and I was wondering about getting Revelations. I'm hoping it winds up under the tree this weekend.

I also played through the first two Uncharted series and just started the third game and Whoa boy they farked that franchise up bigtime. That game went from the greatest playable Indiana Jones movie clone ever to a white knuckled trial and error exercise in frustration. There's literally no way to beat most of the scenarios so far except one exact precision path, which can only be found by experimenting. The other two games were hard as hell at times, but at least you had a shot at surviving your first run through on sheer reflexes.

flatlinedreams

2011-12-21 11:17:14 AM

StrangeQ: TrancePI: Looking up top 20, glad to see Skyrim at #1.

I'm easily 40 hours into it and barely level 21. I dont get the impression that I will be completed with it anytime soon. I've become a damn crackshot with the Elven bow though.

/Sneak Damage x2

I've put it on hold until the CK comes out. I plan on completely redoing the armor and magic system since in their current form they're both pretty terrible.

Spells not scaling with skill and/or level is unacceptable game design. There are mods that fix this, but there's a simpler, manual way to force spells to scale:

Open console (~)
Target yourself
Enter "setav DestructionPowerMod 100", without quotation marks

Setting the PowerMod to 100 doubles the damage of Destruction spells. Setting it to 0 returns spell effects to normal. Setting it to other numbers increases the damage by varying amounts. For other skills, it has other effects. For some skills, it has no effect. I set my PowerMod to my skill level and it went very well.

By the way, the PowerMod is how caster mobs scale their damage. Notice that at level 50 caster mobs can two-shot you, assuming you have no resistances? Looking through the MGEF IDs, there are even enchanting stats for each magic tree that increase its "power," but they were ultimately left unused. Lame.

Shakes999

2011-12-21 11:22:56 AM

ag-ghm: Battlefield 3? I could play it for two weeks then an update shows up and I can't play shiat. I paid sixty bucks on a digital cockslap by EA's "totally-not-a-DRM" Origin- even though I had a hard copy from Gamestop.

I will say the two weeks I could play I was very impressed.

Oh man how could I forget battlefield 3. EA definitely did their best to destroy the series and succeeded in my eyes. Played for 4 hours and then deleted from the hard drive. Between the DRM, Origins shiatty,damn near unusable service, the ability to have only 1 profile and lack luster gameplay, what a complete waste of cash.

scottydoesntknow

2011-12-21 11:23:49 AM

Alright, here's the reason Dragon Age 2 sucked compared to Origins.

In Origins, you had choices, your decisions had weight, they mattered. Everything affected the end-game in one way or another so you could have multiple, varied endings. You could play a hardass killer who left a trail of blood behind you, or play the hero who goes the hardest route to save one life. You could lose any teammates at any time just for doing the wrong action (like pissing on a god's ashes). It was fantastic. Even the expansion was great because decisions had weight in that too.

Dragon Age 2 was an action game on rails with no decisions. Everything was made up for you already because the story had already been told. It didn't matter if you sided with the mages over the templars or vice versa, both leaders would go psycho and try to kill you. It didn't matter whether you believed in Anders or wanted to help him, he still blew up the temple. Everything had already been decided, you were just along for the ride.

Then you get into the constant repetitive scenery (they literally reused the same dungeon so much I had it memorized). Some of the characters were ok, while others were just bland. The highly touted "Import your save to change the game" was superficial at best and broken multiple times (I killed you in Origins Zevran, you shouldn't be alive and well in 2).

Origins was one of my favorite RPGs (including all the fun glitchiness), but DA2 was just such a letdown. Part of me wants the third one, but another part just wants to say screw it.

Raug the Dwarf

2011-12-21 11:24:51 AM

flatlinedreams: StrangeQ: TrancePI: Looking up top 20, glad to see Skyrim at #1.

I'm easily 40 hours into it and barely level 21. I dont get the impression that I will be completed with it anytime soon. I've become a damn crackshot with the Elven bow though.

/Sneak Damage x2

I've put it on hold until the CK comes out. I plan on completely redoing the armor and magic system since in their current form they're both pretty terrible.

Spells not scaling with skill and/or level is unacceptable game design. There are mods that fix this, but there's a simpler, manual way to force spells to scale:

Open console (~)
Target yourself
Enter "setav DestructionPowerMod 100", without quotation marks

Setting the PowerMod to 100 doubles the damage of Destruction spells. Setting it to 0 returns spell effects to normal. Setting it to other numbers increases the damage by varying amounts. For other skills, it has other effects. For some skills, it has no effect. I set my PowerMod to my skill level and it went very well.

By the way, the PowerMod is how caster mobs scale their damage. Notice that at level 50 caster mobs can two-shot you, assuming you have no resistances? Looking through the MGEF IDs, there are even enchanting stats for each magic tree that increase its "power," but they were ultimately left unused. Lame.

I haven't played Skyrim yet, but that's how they've worked since Morrowind anyway. Spells don't scale with your level. You have to make or find new spells that do more damage and add more effects.

Did they take out the spell crafting in Skyrim? If they did, then yeah, that would be a major gripe.

kroonermanblack

2011-12-21 11:29:01 AM

Dead island was a huge letdown to me. Rage and the hard reset had fail written on them to me for some reason.

DA2 was Disapointing. On every level. Clearly just a method to quick farm cash out of nerds and it worked fairly amazingly. I can't really even say anything nice about it except the dwarf was amusing.

Anyone have huge success or failure with swtor yet? I'm chomping to get back from holidays to try it.

scottydoesntknow

2011-12-21 11:29:09 AM

Ohhh and here's an article on Dragon Age 3 (pops). Sounds like they're gonna be taking a few things from Skyrim, and at least they admit DA2 was a "polarizing" game as far as reviews and feedback were concerned.

/And they do promise "the most realistic beards ever in video games"

yves0010

2011-12-21 11:34:05 AM

scottydoesntknow: Ohhh and here's an article on Dragon Age 3 (pops). Sounds like they're gonna be taking a few things from Skyrim, and at least they admit DA2 was a "polarizing" game as far as reviews and feedback were concerned.

/And they do promise "the most realistic beards ever in video games"

I heard that DA3 will have both the Warden and the Hero of Kirkwall as the main characters. Which i think will be freakin awesome to have my two custom characters and their stories intertwin. The best I got in DA2 was Alistar mentioning his wife (who was my female noble). Then again, I havent played the game in such a long time.. need to go back.

Shakes999

2011-12-21 11:35:21 AM

Gah this thread keeps bringing up games I keep forgetting about. Fark needs a condense posts option instead of me spamming lol.

Anyways, Saints Row 3 is another huge disappointment. Its like they took everything that was fun from the second one (good idea) and then tweaked it around to where it was almost no fun at all or at best irritating(bad idea). Hell they even managed to screw up the damn driving the most basic and used aspect of the game!! And do we really need a 13 mission tutorial on how to play mini-games before I can even get to the main story? My girlfriend has been playing the hell out of it but the more I watch her play (and judging by her comments), the more I think shes playing it out of habit rather than fun. I think THQ got so caught up in adding everything but the kitchen sink and making things flashy they forgot to check to see if it was any fun to play.

wraith95

2011-12-21 11:38:03 AM

Lumbar Puncture:
Also, if someone was hugely disappointed in Two Worlds 2 after the mess that the first Two Worlds game was, then they have their expectations messed up. TW2 was just mediocre, but considering the mess that the first game was that was a vast improvement.

I'm actually enjoying Two Worlds after I got it cheap from steam. Sure, it's terrible in several ways, but kinda fun. So you're saying Two Worlds 2 is better? I may invest in it if I see it on sale.

flatlinedreams

2011-12-21 11:38:40 AM

Raug the Dwarf:

I haven't played Skyrim yet, but that's how they've worked since Morrowind anyway. Spells don't scale with your level. You have to make or find new spells that do more damage and add more effects.

Did they take out the spell crafting in Skyrim? If they did, then yeah, that would be a major gripe.

There is no spell-crafting in Skyim. At level 40, mob-scaling (there is level-scaling for boss-level mobs, don't let anyone tell you otherwise) takes off, and spells do insigificant damage. Meanwhile, your Orc wielding a two-handed axe with 400 base damage is killing dragons in two power attacks. Using the "PowerMod" commands is essential for anyone who wants to play a pure Mage at the higher levels. If you don't, you'll either quit, or you'll be forced to play as a melee-type that just happens to have spells, in order to survive.

scottydoesntknow

2011-12-21 11:40:49 AM

yves0010: scottydoesntknow: Ohhh and here's an article on Dragon Age 3 (pops). Sounds like they're gonna be taking a few things from Skyrim, and at least they admit DA2 was a "polarizing" game as far as reviews and feedback were concerned.

/And they do promise "the most realistic beards ever in video games"

I heard that DA3 will have both the Warden and the Hero of Kirkwall as the main characters. Which i think will be freakin awesome to have my two custom characters and their stories intertwin. The best I got in DA2 was Alistar mentioning his wife (who was my female noble). Then again, I havent played the game in such a long time.. need to go back.

If the game plays out in real-time (not a past story being told during interrogation like DA2) then it will have my interest. And yea the meeting with Alistair was pretty good, I was just pissed there really wasn't much talk of my Hero or Morrigan (who by the way did a hell of a lot more than Hawke did).

JonQDoe

2011-12-21 11:42:42 AM

I don't even remember what came out this year that I have enjoyed other than Dark Souls. That game has consumed me. I look forward to one day getting bored enough with it to try Skyrim; I loved Oblivion. One day..

\YOU DIED

Lumbar Puncture

2011-12-21 11:43:36 AM

wraith95: Lumbar Puncture:
Also, if someone was hugely disappointed in Two Worlds 2 after the mess that the first Two Worlds game was, then they have their expectations messed up. TW2 was just mediocre, but considering the mess that the first game was that was a vast improvement.

I'm actually enjoying Two Worlds after I got it cheap from steam. Sure, it's terrible in several ways, but kinda fun. So you're saying Two Worlds 2 is better? I may invest in it if I see it on sale.

I could deal with all the problems from the first, but after losing hours of progress several times from crashing and glitches I couldn't take it anymore.

TW2 isn't bad, all of the technical problems are minor compared to the first one. If you liked the first one then you'd like the sequel.

Whiplash!!!

2011-12-21 11:50:36 AM

Dragon Age 2 was a turd sandwich.

I'm on my third play-through of Origins-Awakening as a mage right now. Love Origins.

Three top things that ruined DA2:

1. Enemies popping out of nowhere. In Origins I could pause it, mouse-wheel out the camera, and tactically devise my strategy to win the battle. The enemies where all there. You had to think to win at harder difficulty levels.

DA2 should have had a "skip-combat" button. I never looked forward to combat after the first 7 hours of the same crappy auto-attack button pressing fest. You could literally close your eyes and press auto-attack and be perfectly fine. My mages took care of everything.

2. Little sense of awe. I remember going into the cave dungeon the first time. It looked great with DX11 and the high-res texture pack. I was looking forward to seeing the other dungeons. There were none. They used the same one for the entire game.

One of the pillars of RPGs is exploration. When you re-use level resources like that, you take exploration out of the equation.

3. Characters I didn't give a shiat about. There were two characters in DA2 that I gave a shiat about. Varric and Merrill. I stopped giving a shiat about Merrill after the dumb biatch got her entire clan killed. The worst part was, after my squad killed all of the elves in the area, I clicked on Merrill and she repeated the same canned dialog she had been saying the entire first 40 hours of the game. No sadness in her voice at all.

That's some lazy game-making right there.

yves0010

2011-12-21 11:51:18 AM

scottydoesntknow: yves0010: scottydoesntknow: Ohhh and here's an article on Dragon Age 3 (pops). Sounds like they're gonna be taking a few things from Skyrim, and at least they admit DA2 was a "polarizing" game as far as reviews and feedback were concerned.

/And they do promise "the most realistic beards ever in video games"

I heard that DA3 will have both the Warden and the Hero of Kirkwall as the main characters. Which i think will be freakin awesome to have my two custom characters and their stories intertwin. The best I got in DA2 was Alistar mentioning his wife (who was my female noble). Then again, I havent played the game in such a long time.. need to go back.

If the game plays out in real-time (not a past story being told during interrogation like DA2) then it will have my interest. And yea the meeting with Alistair was pretty good, I was just pissed there really wasn't much talk of my Hero or Morrigan (who by the way did a hell of a lot more than Hawke did).

I am not that big a Morrigan fan as many are it seems. I never used her on my party. Usually had Alistair (changed), Liliana (changed) and Wynne. No matter what my character was, I usually DPSed the hell out of my character. Never was good at tanking and somewhat a decent healer. But I loved how Morrigan and Alistair constantly argued with each other... and the little special comment she gives if you have a relationship with Alistar and kiss in front of her.

I didnt mind the whole telling like a tale. It seemed really well done to me knowing it was going to bring us into DA3. And honestly, I think that since the other events were happening at the same time.. or atleast for 1/3 of the game, it had to be told like that.

MooseMuffin

2011-12-21 11:52:15 AM

Rage wasn't really total fail, I thought the melee enemies were actually awesome to fight. It was generally disappointing though given its hype.

Dragon Age 2 on the other hand, that was just an embarrassment. Just a completely inferior game to its predecessor, with almost no effort given to conceal how rushed and half-assed it was.

StrangeQ

2011-12-21 11:52:36 AM

flatlinedreams: Looking through the MGEF IDs, there are even enchanting stats for each magic tree that increase its "power," but they were ultimately left unused. Lame.

That's what I plan on adding in. The reason your sword can do 400 damage a swing is because you can get 4x+46% damage enchants on your armor. If they had that for magic skills so you could get +192% damage/effect/duration for a school it would scale just fine.

I'm also going to try to redo armor to put it on a logarithmic scale that caps at 99% reduction or so at the absolute maximum armor rating (achieved by improving daedric armor using max enchanted smithing gear with a max smithing pot, enchanting the armor with max fortify armor enchants and then popping a max armor potion.) Using a logarithmic scale instead of the stupid linear one they use now will make it so those initial points of armor you pick up will do the most good like they should and so that there will actually be a meaningful difference between using light/heavy armor.

RyansPrivates

2011-12-21 11:52:37 AM

Shaggy_C: hamdingers: I loved Dragon Age: Origins and I loved Dragon Age 2. I acknowledge most of the things folks don't like about it but I had a blast anyway.

Dragon Age II was an awesome game; I couldn't put the controller down. I never played the original, though, so maybe there was a big letdown there. The problem, as I understand it, is that it went from shiatty turn-based RPG to a 'hack and slash' action game. I prefer the latter, so I'm not even considering playing the first. I guess some people like the Final Fantasy-esque crap but for me it's boring.

Except replace "Final Fantasy-esque" with "KOTOR" or "Baldurs Gate". The problem is that those of us who like a lot of depth and variety (a la Skyrim), loved Dragon Age Origins. Then they decided to crap all over to make it another console-ish port. The PC version of DA:O rocked, the PC version of DA2, was nothing more than a console port, dumbed down to repetive environments and quests just to level you up for big boss fights. The story was secondary. (i.e. you were always Hawk with the same back story, pretty much regardless, which is really more Final Fantasy-esque than the previous game ever was).

Turn based doesn't matter to me necessarily (although I do like to be able to pause and be more tactical), but what does matter is story, characterization and variety. DA:O had these in full, DA2 had half a story, no variety and limted characterization. It was more of an "arcade" experience.

StrangeQ

2011-12-21 11:59:54 AM

RyansPrivates: Then they decided to crap all over to make it another console-ish port. The PC version of DA:O rocked, the PC version of DA2, was nothing more than a console port, dumbed down to repetive environments and quests just to level you up for big boss fights.

Sadly this is the direction all games are going. Games that could have limitless possibilities and innovative gameplay on a PC are all going to be dumbed down to function with analog sticks and confined system requirements. For those that want to try to say that games on consoles are just as good if not better than ones on PC, I ask this: how do you make Starcraft for the Xbox?

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