Same sport where they fake injuries to get a penalty, cry like a whiny biatch and get carted off the field? Oh yeah, then they get up and run around on the sideline and go back into the game.

Hmmm, not suprised at this at all

I was listening to the BBC report this story last night, and thought to myself "I wonder what kind of awful, offensive, racist things get said at the bottom of the pile in NFL football, that nobody so much as mentions?"

Eutopia!

Sanduskyed In The Shower: Same sport where they fake injuries to get a penalty, cry like a whiny biatch and get carted off the field? Oh yeah, then they get up and run around on the sideline and go back into the game.

Hmmm, not suprised at this at all

What sport are you talking aboot? NCAA football?

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I hate to side with this son of a biatch, but Suarez called him "Negrito." Now, this is the same culture that calls fat guys gordito, skinny girls flaccita, etc.

It should merit a stern warning, but 8 games? That's harsh

what really happened:

Borat received an oscar nomination for using that word.....
/sorry to offend anyone, i was hoping our planet was over this stupidity by now

HaywoodJablonski: I hate to side with this son of a biatch, but Suarez called him "Negrito." Now, this is the same culture that calls fat guys gordito, skinny girls flaccita, etc.

It should merit a stern warning, but 8 games? That's harsh

I'm giggling at the rough translation to "something that rhymes with piglet" does that make me racist?

On point, Suarez is a douche, but Liverpool (and its fans) have every right to take pitchforks and torches to the F.A Headquarters.

Sanduskyed In The Shower: Same sport where they fake injuries to get a penalty, cry like a whiny biatch and get carted off the field? Oh yeah, then they get up and run around on the sideline and go back into the game.

Hmmm, not suprised at this at all

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HaywoodJablonski: I hate to side with this son of a biatch, but Suarez called him "Negrito." Now, this is the same culture that calls fat guys gordito, skinny girls flaccita, etc.

It should merit a stern warning, but 8 games? That's harsh

Yeah, it's a bullshiat call. Why isn't Evra charged, too? Quoth the telegraph:

"Suárez apologised and attempted to pat the United full-back on the head. "Don't touch me, you South American,'' Evra is alleged to have said. To which, the Uruguayan replied: "Porque, Negro?''"

I'm sure Evra meant that as a term of endearment or just a descriptive handle, and it's not at ALL a disparaging reference to his ethnic origin.

/farking PC-police ruining reality for the rest of us

You might say this is a nagging problem in football

Suarez should have just kicked Evra, then the FA would just ban him for two games.

Cajnik: Didn't someone not too long ago get suspending for calling another playing gay?

Joey Barton was investigated for calling Torres a "poof" but I don't think anything came of it. And Joey Barton is the epitome of class.

Persistent racism is still a major issue for FIFA in general, so it's not too surprising that the FA came down so hard on this.

And as for the "oh sissies" comments, remember that John Rocker was suspended for a month (later reduced on appeal) for his comments which were pretty tame. We haven't cured racism in America, but we don't have entire blocks of fans throwing bananas at players, or making Nazi salutes. It's that kind of bullshiat behavior that they are trying to stamp out.

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The Fergie Association strikes again.

Langston: TheKnownUniverse: And Joey Barton is the epitome of class.

I see what you did there

Eye saw what Joey Barton did there

TonnageVT: Yes, because I'm sure if someone called another person a racist name in the NFL, it would just go unnoticed. The NFL would have no problem with that at all..."Excessive Celebrating" though, that's a problem.

And it's not like a prominent television personality (new window) would get fired for misguided comments about "black quarterbacks" on the air, nor would the big bad NFL ever get upset because a singer mentioned the name "Hitler" on the air and remove his iconic song from their broadcasts. Only sissified soccer worries about these sorts of things...

Racially Insensitive comments? Must be trying to live up to their new status as Red Sox East.

I really don't think there would be too much racism in the NFL, since so many players on your own team would be offended/pissed. I'm probably wrong, but I'd be surprised if someone could get away with a remark in a pile of offensive and defensive linemen.

Also, how can they ban someone for so long with no actual proof? That's crazy.

TonnageVT: What is it with morons who think because it was against a United player, the penalty was anymore harsh than against anyone else??

Sounds like I hit a nerve.

You're right, of course. I'm sure it's just a giant coincidence that when the alleged victim is a United player, the case is needlessly drawn out over two months so exactly zero people can testify in corroboration of the charges, and then the accused player is given an unprecedented 8-match ban.

This would be the point in the discussion where you cite all the instances similar to this one that involved "victims" that don't play for Man U. No hurry or anything ... I'm sure there are tons of examples to choose from.

I wish I saw this BEFORE I did this: [25033] LIVERPOOL -215

WAY TO RESEARCH!

Ouch! Right in the feelings.

TonnageVT: sotua: "Suárez apologised and attempted to pat the United full-back on the head. "Don't touch me, you South American,' Evra is alleged to have said. To which, the Uruguayan replied: "Porque, Negro?'"

There's a difference between calling someone something where they're from, and calling someone a racially backed name.

/Hint, I don't get offended if someone says "hey you Indian", but I might if they said "Hey you dot!"

Two things:

1.- "Negro", in South America, is what you call someone who is black. The word, by itself, is not insulting. It's not like the English "n-word". We don't do the whole "african-american" thing. You can, of course, by use of tone, context or adjectives, turn it into a racial slur, e.g. it's obviously not the same to be called "negro" than "negro de m****a".
2.- How is it different using someone's place of origin instead of his race in a pejorative manner? That "you " isn't meant as a description, it's meant as an insult. I really don't see how racism is worse than xenophobia in this case. (FWIW, the UN agrees ;)

/European looking down on South American? Unconceivable!
//why yes, I am South American
///farking FA, see what you made me do? You made me defend that douchebag Suárez ¬¬

TonnageVT: I'm sure you can prove that United are directly linked to the sentencing. I'm just absolutely sure about that...no, I'll wait, go on...

Let's see if I can simplify this for you. I've provided one instance in support of my claim; you've provided zero in support of yours. It's your turn, not mine. If you want to claim that the punishment isn't disproportionate, all you have to do is provide an example where a non-United player was "victimized" and his assailant was handed an 8-match ban after nobody testified against him. Simple, no?

John Terry is getting questioned by the Crown Prosecution Service...but this is only because it was Anton Ferdinand, brother of Rio Ferdinand...right? amirite??

The stupidity of equating government prosecution to some kangaroo court notwithstanding, I'll simply address that this way: I presume that the CPS is questioning John Terry because they have actual evidence. Clearly, that is not a standard that the FA aspires to uphold.

TonnageVT: sotua: "Suárez apologised and attempted to pat the United full-back on the head. "Don't touch me, you South American,' Evra is alleged to have said. To which, the Uruguayan replied: "Porque, Negro?'"

There's a difference between calling someone something where they're from, and calling someone a racially backed name.

/Hint, I don't get offended if someone says "hey you Indian", but I might if they said "Hey you dot!"

Actually, under the FA's rules [E3(2)] they make no distinction with regards to this policy between using ethnicity & country of origin, so long as the intent is to insult. By the letter of the law, Evra's as guilty as Suarez. It may not seem as reasonable to you, but since they're trying to make an example out of this case, the specifics of how they handle it could reveal a lot about the FA's leanings and will have definite implications for future enforcement.

I don't particularly care if they throw the book at everyone involved or stand down from their current stance, so long as they're consistent...

Everyone, the FA has been promoting anti-racism for a while now and wants to make a stand against these slurs.
They are using Suarez as an example of what is next to come for handling racist remarks in the future.
Suarez should not have verbally attacked Evra's race, but 8 games in absurd.
as for my picture, i was reluctant to post that for everyone to see, but this particular issue is getting out of hand and i thought maybe someone might get a laugh or realize they are on a Fark thread.
merry footie day everyone!

TonnageVT: It was what the FA has found, if you have a problem with that, blame the FA

Since you seem to be incapable of figuring this out on your own, that's precisely what I did. At no point did I claim that Man U bears responsibility for this outlandishly ridiculous decision ... I merely pointed out that it's no coincidence that the FA chose this particular instance to go off the rails given their clear and well-documented bias towards United.

TonnageVT: sotua: 1.- "Negro", in South America, is what you call someone who is black. The word, by itself, is not insulting. It's not like the English "n-word". We don't do the whole "african-american" thing. You can, of course, by use of tone, context or adjectives, turn it into a racial slur, e.g. it's obviously not the same to be called "negro" than "negro de m****a".

The big factor is the fact that they're not in South America, they're in England. I'm sure if you walk up to an African American and call him the n word, and then say "oh, but in my country it's alright to say it", you won't have a very nice day.

True, that. But that gives you at least a plausible explanation to Suarez's intent with "por que, negro?". What's Evra's excuse for "Don't touch me, you South American", since he's had his whole career in Europe, and been in England for the past what, five years?

silly pass by citeh, the receiver ran from the ball!
then stoke pull a dull finish while attacking~

TonnageVT: what proof do you have?

For starters, an 8-match ban handed to a player convicted on a charge with zero evidence and zero witnesses. I could supply other examples, but what's the point? If you're obtuse enough not to understand how asinine that decision is, you'll have no trouble justifying any other warped decision the FA has made.

Suarez should get an 8-game ban minimum for being a diving, whiney, overpaid piece of crap.

Anyone watch the City game a few weeks ago and notice how many situations there were that if Suarez had hostled up his side they would have had numbers?

TonnageVT: what proof do you have that United had a hand in this?

I find it pretty hilarious that you insist on calling me a moron and repeatedly asking this question even though I've already explicitly stated that United had no active role in the decision. Are you reading impaired, or is slinging insults around just a defense mechanism for you?

As for the FA "judging on their own merits" ... snert. The FA's merits are these:

1. Evra accused Suarez of using what he considered to be abusive language. Suarez admits that he used the term, and disputes that it was used with derogatory intent.
2. Suarez accused Evra of using what he considered to be abusive language. Evra admits that he used the term, and offers no explanation whatsoever of his intent.
3. Suarez is handed an unprecedented 8-match ban; Evra, presumably, is given a rape whistle just in case anybody else mean happens to play in the EPL.

TonnageVT: Reading comprehension, how does it work?

Indeed. You seem to think that the FA having a bias towards United is equivalent to United actively arranging the decision, even though it's been explained multiple times that those are two separate concepts and only one of them is applicable here.

I guess this is what I get for arguing with children on the internets.

TonnageVT: You said it's "Well-Documented" so showing me proof shouldn't be hard at all.

I also said lots of other things that you can't seem to grasp, one of which can be summarized thusly: I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove to you something you are incapable of understanding in the first place. End of discussion. Go piss up some other rope for the rest of the afternoon.

I'll say it again: alphas respond to racist names by silently playing well. Little biatch omegas go tattle-tale to their leagues like 5 year-olds. Evra's a little biatch omega.