I skipped college and have a good job, therefore I must be hot.

And just like the degree, your appearance will be worthless by the time you're 40.

FTA: The interviewer also ranked each interviewee's physical attractiveness from one to 11 - one being the least attractive, 11 being the most attractive.

Why don't you just make ten more attractive and make ten be the top number and make that a little more attractive?

poot_rootbeer: And just like the degree, your appearance will be worthless by the time you're 40.

Damn skippy. I dropped out of college yet make more than most of my college educated buddies. And and a pretty boy, I am not. Dead sexy, maybe, but not attractive.

... apparently I like "and" today.

Teenwolf: FTA: The interviewer also ranked each interviewee's physical attractiveness from one to 11 - one being the least attractive, 11 being the most attractive.

Why don't you just make ten more attractive and make ten be the top number and make that a little more attractive?

Because we don't start counting at 0.

Teenwolf: FTA: The interviewer also ranked each interviewee's physical attractiveness from one to 11 - one being the least attractive, 11 being the most attractive.

Why don't you just make ten more attractive and make ten be the top number and make that a little more attractive?

poot_rootbeer: And just like the degree, your appearance will be worthless by the time you're 40.

Funny, I'm a 46 yo male, I was christmas shopping with my mother yesterday, (yes I still enjoy her company) and we were discussing this very subject - , I was considered to be tall blond and handsome. all but a couple of my hiring bosses were female. I lost my job last year and now am having a tough go of it. Maybe because I'm tall grey and fat. your point is valid. same with my accounting degree, it means nothing.

Perhaps if there were pictures of what a hot person might look like I would have something to go by.

Healthy genes being more successful in life and having better odds of procreation? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

I guess it depends what kind of job it is? Jobs where you have to interact with a client - lawyers, bartenders, salespersons, etc. etc. directly benefit from greater attractiveness. In science and engineering I would think you'd want to take the uglier one, because in general they're smarter. They had to get by with good qualities other than attractiveness.

The age-old adage applies to both men and women: of smart, hot, and sane, you can never have all three.

Whether TFA is true or not, my anecdotal experience as a university instructor has taught me that certainly the bulk of the "hot" girls have skated by on their looks their whole lives. Then they come to me and are shocked...SHOCKED! to discover some people care more for intellect than appearance.

I've given many deserving "hot" students Fs for their efforts.

Now, hot and smart...those girls are trouble.

/dreading the day one of the hot dumb ones propositions me and uses it as harassment leverage.
//does this count as a CSB?

*Takes long look in mirror*

*Prominent ears make head look like a jug*

Guess I better study over Christmas break.

/Gonna need the grades.

What, no more hot co-eds?

axeeugene: Whether TFA is true or not, my anecdotal experience as a university instructor has taught me that certainly the bulk of the "hot" girls have skated by on their looks their whole lives. Then they come to me and are shocked...SHOCKED! to discover some people care more for intellect than appearance.

I've given many deserving "hot" students Fs for their efforts.

Now, hot and smart...those girls are trouble.

/dreading the day one of the hot dumb ones propositions me and uses it as harassment leverage.
//does this count as a CSB?

I would be intrigued to hear more specific stories. Newsletter, and moar.

axeeugene: does this count as a CSB?

more like wishful thinking

*wakes up*

Eh? Hottie thread?

Magnanimous_J:
more like wishful thinking

Believe me, the only "wishful" thing about it is wishing the hot ones would grow some brains.
Or not. My lack of attraction keeps me employed. That and the fact that the University wants to employ more people like me, who work for half what tenured faculty do for basically the same work. I wonder if being hot gets you tenure?

/then I'm out.
//sulks...

axeeugene: Whether TFA is true or not, my anecdotal experience as a university instructor has taught me that certainly the bulk of the "hot" girls have skated by on their looks their whole lives. Then they come to me and are shocked...SHOCKED! to discover some people care more for intellect than appearance.

As a former college instructor, this is hogwash.

The looks of a girl extend to her grades. If a girl is dedicated enough to stay slim, workout and buy nice clothes, she is also going to care about her grades. It's all part of her facade.

The girls that are fat and ugly don't also care about their grades, as they don't care about their appearance or their health.

However, there are exceptions to what I said. Some girls are fat because of some bad habits or their environment but try and create a nice facade and grades. Some hot girls are because they got caught up in some sports and hotness when you're young comes from being slim and fit, and don't care about grades. But, these are exceptions.

I've got a CSB

when I was in school a friend of mine who was drop dead hot got pulled over for going 45 in a 30 at nighttime. She didn't have her license, nor her registration, or proof of insurance. She told the officer that she had been having trouble with her car and was almost out of gas. The officer took her to the nearest gas station, bought her a gallon of gas, drove her back to her car, and gave her a warning. And she was unfazed by this, didn't think it was unusual. The next day when she told this story I thought, Damn, I would still be sitting in jail right now and owe 3000 dollars!

First time I realized that the beautiful live in a different world than the rest of us.

I am the 99% (of ugly)

CSB out

mr0x: The looks of a girl extend to her grades. If a girl is dedicated enough to stay slim, workout and buy nice clothes, she is also going to care about her grades. It's all part of her facade.

The girls that are fat and ugly don't also care about their grades, as they don't care about their appearance or their health.

Except for the ones whose facades actually involved the suppression of their abilities? I'll give you the whole "people dedicated to image will take it to all areas of their life," but if that's a good thing or not depends on what image they're trying to live up to. Let's not forget that always picking the easiest major and courses is another way to "care about grades."

mr0x: axeeugene: Whether TFA is true or not, my anecdotal experience as a university instructor has taught me that certainly the bulk of the "hot" girls have skated by on their looks their whole lives. Then they come to me and are shocked...SHOCKED! to discover some people care more for intellect than appearance.

As a former college instructor, this is hogwash.

The looks of a girl extend to her grades. If a girl is dedicated enough to stay slim, workout and buy nice clothes, she is also going to care about her grades. It's all part of her facade.

The girls that are fat and ugly don't also care about their grades, as they don't care about their appearance or their health.

However, there are exceptions to what I said. Some girls are fat because of some bad habits or their environment but try and create a nice facade and grades. Some hot girls are because they got caught up in some sports and hotness when you're young comes from being slim and fit, and don't care about grades. But, these are exceptions.

So, did the hot chick ever sleep with you for letting them slide?

Well, that explains why it took me eight years to get my Bachelor's degree.

i have no degree and look like your typical irish dude

mr0x: axeeugene: Whether TFA is true or not, my anecdotal experience as a university instructor has taught me that certainly the bulk of the "hot" girls have skated by on their looks their whole lives. Then they come to me and are shocked...SHOCKED! to discover some people care more for intellect than appearance.

As a former college instructor, this is hogwash.

The looks of a girl extend to her grades. If a girl is dedicated enough to stay slim, workout and buy nice clothes, she is also going to care about her grades. It's all part of her facade.

The girls that are fat and ugly don't also care about their grades, as they don't care about their appearance or their health.

However, there are exceptions to what I said. Some girls are fat because of some bad habits or their environment but try and create a nice facade and grades. Some hot girls are because they got caught up in some sports and hotness when you're young comes from being slim and fit, and don't care about grades. But, these are exceptions.

When you're a college-age girl, you don't need to work out to be slender, it just happens naturally. Also, if you're an ugly woman then it doesn't matter how much you work out or how slim you are, or how well you dress - you're a farking pig and you may as well just kill yourself now.

mr0x: axeeugene: Whether TFA is true or not, my anecdotal experience as a university instructor has taught me that certainly the bulk of the "hot" girls have skated by on their looks their whole lives. Then they come to me and are shocked...SHOCKED! to discover some people care more for intellect than appearance.

As a former college instructor, this is hogwash.

The looks of a girl extend to her grades. If a girl is dedicated enough to stay slim, workout and buy nice clothes, she is also going to care about her grades. It's all part of her facade.

The girls that are fat and ugly don't also care about their grades, as they don't care about their appearance or their health.

However, there are exceptions to what I said. Some girls are fat because of some bad habits or their environment but try and create a nice facade and grades. Some hot girls are because they got caught up in some sports and hotness when you're young comes from being slim and fit, and don't care about grades. But, these are exceptions.

Or, as an educator, you already have come in with a subconscious bias against those less "beautiful" and treat them unfairly. The pretty ones get more time to make up a test or two, the ugly ones...not so much.

So the interpretation of your observations are already blinded because you want to see yourself as nicer than you are.

Not saying you are...just keep that in mind. It happens...a LOT.

Slaves2Darkness: Teenwolf: FTA: The interviewer also ranked each interviewee's physical attractiveness from one to 11 - one being the least attractive, 11 being the most attractive.

Why don't you just make ten more attractive and make ten be the top number and make that a little more attractive?

Because we don't start counting at 0.

Only because I wasn't an interviewee in the study.

wildcardjack: What, no more hot co-eds?

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On the other hand, you might get to ogle cute 19-year-olds at work.

Huggermugger: When you're a college-age girl, you don't need to work out to be slender, it just happens naturally

Sure, but that mini-skirt didn't choose itself.

Worked for me. I've been a Kept Man for the last 8 years.

Debeo Summa Credo: Slaves2Darkness: Teenwolf: FTA: The interviewer also ranked each interviewee's physical attractiveness from one to 11 - one being the least attractive, 11 being the most attractive.

Why don't you just make ten more attractive and make ten be the top number and make that a little more attractive?

Because we don't start counting at 0.

Only because I wasn't an interviewee in the study.

^ This. If you don't start counting at 0, you're either a jerk or you're Lua.

/MATLAB has an excuse

So this explains half of the idiots I have ran across and wondered how the hell they got their position.

Not according to Cracked. (new window) See #6.

And if Cracked says it, it's the truth.

Cracked would not lie to me.

Mawson of the Antarctic: First time I realized that the beautiful women live in a different world than the rest of us. men

Fixed that for you, even a decent looking woman can get stupid men to do shiat for her if she works it right.

Huggermugger: When you're a college-age girl, you don't need to work out to be slender, it just happens naturally.

Try visiting the campus of an engineering school. There are many slender and attractive young ladies.
There are just as many swamp donkeys.

rolladuck: Huggermugger: When you're a college-age girl, you don't need to work out to be slender, it just happens naturally.

Try visiting the campus of an engineering school. There are many slender and attractive young ladies.
There are just as many swamp donkeys.

Going to college to get a degree and to get a husband are two different things.

Nothing new here.

tl;dr version: Give it time. Unless the pretty people have actual skills, they'll be traded in for younger, prettier people once they hit their forties.

Long Version:

My personal experience bears this out:

Air Force (twenty five years ago): Hot young airmen (male or female) got tapped for "below the zone" promotions all of the time. With very few exceptions, said hotties weren't particularly competent in their career fields.

College: Like so many others have reported, hot little coeds would wink, blush, and giggle their way to grade bumps and around work. Thing is, I saw it happen with the hot guys working the female professors, too, so it was definitely not a gender-related thing.

Career: College is nothing compared to the corporate world. "Hot" trumps "competence" every single day of the week.

One telling example comes from my years as an IT engineer. I worked with a male-model Team Lead who banked entirely on his charm and looks. Not a bad choice on his part. This was a guy who literally made otherwise professional and competent women act like fourteen year old girls meeting whatever the hell a "Bieber" is. His charm got him a lot of good word-of-mouth, and he used that to his advantage. Within months of my joining his team, he had taken to showing up in the office maybe two days a week, traveling constantly on the company dime to "conferences" in Las Vegas and San Francisco, and generally being an absentee manager. Meanwhile, I managed the team, ran the projects, and kept the work moving forward.

The punchline: Within two years he got promoted to an executive office, half of our staff got laid off, and I was left to handle all of the work.

Beauty, as they say, is only a temporary tyranny. My former lead-turned-executive lost his job just as he was having problems keeping that middle-aged bloat off of his frame. He's since had a hell of a time finding work. Other "beautiful people" I've met over the years have pretty much ended up in the same boat. (Well, save the actually competent ones, that is...).

So, yes, it does eventually catch up with them. You just have to be patient.