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2011-12-20 08:55:24 PM
I still want to have physical media and I still rent movies and games but everything else I don't miss.

/still can't tpye
 
2011-12-20 09:12:35 PM
3) Buying an expensive set of encyclopedias.

Usually volumes A, B, and C were cheap, like $5 each. That's the way they thought they would hook you. The joke's on them, we only bought A, B, and C. I did a lot of school reports on Aardvarks and Anteaters.
 
2011-12-20 09:40:06 PM
List fails without "Jack off to pictures in a magazine".
 
2011-12-20 09:42:26 PM
11) Rule 34
 
2011-12-20 09:44:20 PM
8) Having to endlessly search to find unique content.

Related to the previous point, the digital generation will never recall a time when they had to hunt for the obscure media content they desired. When I was a teenager, I spent an absurd amount of time and money trying to find (and sometimes import) rare vinyl or CD versions of singles or albums from my favorite artists. I will never forget the day in the early 1980s when, after a long search, I finally found a rare Led Zeppelin B-Side ("Hey Hey What Can I Do") on a "45" in a dusty bin at a small record store. It was like winning the lottery! Today, virtually any piece of desired content, no matter how obscure, is just a quick search away.


Also, card catalogs.
I also like dealing with Microfilm/fiche less and less.
 
2011-12-20 09:48:48 PM
8) Having to endlessly search to find unique content.
Today, virtually any piece of desired content, no matter how obscure, is just a quick search away.


I wish I could say that everything was a quick search away. He's just not looking for obscure enough stuff.

For example, I was never able to find a legitimate copy of the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest OST.
 
2011-12-20 10:00:30 PM
10) Being without the Internet & instant, ubiquitous connectivity.

I don't know about that. My Android is on Sprint.
 
2011-12-20 10:03:58 PM
Some of us dinosaurs still haul around crates of CDs and have shelves full of our favorite movies on DVDs. That's increasingly alien to digital natives. They won't keep much of anything on physical media in the future. Media content will all be accessed via remote storage or just streamed in real-time, as is increasingly the case today.

Partially true. I keep the majority of my stuff as a digital format, but on a portable external drive. I don't trust cloud server providers to A) protect my data, B) not use my data for marketing, C) not random my data back to me, and D) not intentionally limit the rate at which I can access my data.

A few classics are on physical media - like VHS copies of the original Star Wars trilogy.
 
2011-12-20 10:13:50 PM
I'm more interested in Twitter Woman with her light-bending powers.

images.forbes.com
 
2011-12-20 10:20:21 PM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A few classics are on physical media - like VHS copies of the original Star Wars trilogy.

Star Wars on VHS? Blaspheme! They do have the unaltered version on DVD. now.
 
2011-12-20 10:31:01 PM
12. Talking about album cover art.
 
2011-12-20 10:31:36 PM
...while very, very, high.
 
2011-12-20 10:34:20 PM
adenosine: 8) Having to endlessly search to find unique content.
Today, virtually any piece of desired content, no matter how obscure, is just a quick search away.

I wish I could say that everything was a quick search away. He's just not looking for obscure enough stuff.

For example, I was never able to find a legitimate copy of the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest OST.


Link (new window)
 
2011-12-20 10:34:29 PM
Clicking through multiple "pages" to view a single page worth of information is sadly not on that list.
 
2011-12-20 10:36:07 PM
SharkTrager: stuff

Legitimate copy. You wouldn't download a car, would you?
 
2011-12-20 10:46:00 PM
Borrowing your mom's porn magazine's from under her mattress.
 
2011-12-20 10:46:46 PM
times change yet they stay the same.
telephone telegraph tell a woman

depending on your age your parents and grandparents could have said they were living in a new world of instant communication and modern information revolution. my grandfather had a kind of google iremember him using. it can best be described as calling the public library and asking a obscure question and the library calling back 15 minutes later.
 
2011-12-20 10:52:23 PM
adenosine: You wouldn't download a car, would you?

FARK YOU! I would if I could.
 
2011-12-20 11:05:19 PM
1) Taking a typing class.

I did, and it was really easy, even though I didn't follow any of the teacher's instructions. As long as the software tests said that I was typing somewhat quickly without too many mistakes I was able to pass. I helped that I already had been typing a lot, and first used a computer when I was 3 or 4. Even if it was a TI 99 4/A.

2) Paying bills by writing countless checks.

I don't think I've paid anything but rent in seven or eight years by check.

3) Buying an expensive set of encyclopedias.

Is this a repeat from 1990?

4) Using a payphone or racking up a big "long-distance" bill.

I helped replace a pay phone with a computer in 2003. Maybe it's a repeat from 2003?

5) Having to pay someone else to develop photographs.

How old are the author's kids?

6) Driving to a store to rent a movie.

I mean, are they 15 or something?

7) Buying / storing music, movies, or games on physical media.

Okay, this one is a bit more recent. I think this has got to be at least a decade out. People want to own stuff, and getting everyone okay with just owning the rights to stuff isn't going to happen overnight.

8) Having to endlessly search to find unique content.

Wait, what? Good. Maybe they'll learn to stuff a minidisc recorder in their underwear and bootleg a damn show for themselves.

9) Sending letters.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

10) Being without the Internet & instant, ubiquitous connectivity.

It's pretty awesome, really. It's almost like turning on God Mode in a video game. Want to answer some random question? You probably can from your phone in the next ten minutes or less.
 
2011-12-20 11:12:41 PM
1) Taking a typing class.

I'm glad that I learned to touch-type. It's rather nice not having to look back and forth between the screen and the keyboard...

Most people who never learned to touch-type have no idea what they're missing. Really ;)
 
2011-12-20 11:19:33 PM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Some of us dinosaurs still haul around crates of CDs and have shelves full of our favorite movies on DVDs. That's increasingly alien to digital natives. They won't keep much of anything on physical media in the future. Media content will all be accessed via remote storage or just streamed in real-time, as is increasingly the case today.

Partially true. I keep the majority of my stuff as a digital format, but on a portable external drive. I don't trust cloud server providers to A) protect my data, B) not use my data for marketing, C) not random my data back to me, and D) not intentionally limit the rate at which I can access my data.

A few classics are on physical media - like VHS copies of the original Star Wars trilogy.


Wrong! I have digital copies of the laser disc version of the original Star Wars trilogy, han is the only one to shoot, no ghost hayden, it is glorious. Physical copies are for chumps and collectors
 
2011-12-20 11:35:50 PM
davidphogan: 5) Having to pay someone else to develop photographs.

How old are the author's kids?

6) Driving to a store to rent a movie.

I mean, are they 15 or something?


They probably are 15 or even younger,

let's see he said as a kid he had to change the TV for grandpa in the 70s, let us just guess he was between 5 to10 in 1976, that would mean he didn't start having kids till about 1996 making his first kid be around 15 years old and the rest younger,

I am not sure as to why you are asking those questions.
 
2011-12-20 11:40:16 PM
SpinStopper: 1) Taking a typing class.

I'm glad that I learned to touch-type. It's rather nice not having to look back and forth between the screen and the keyboard...

Most people who never learned to touch-type have no idea what they're missing. Really ;)


My dad worked in software for 30 years, starting in the '80s on stuff like rockets and airplanes and other cool things. He still can't touch type. (And yes, he hates the concept of "consumer electronics.")

Returning to the list, I can't wait for the generation that doesn't know what a long distance international call is because everyone in the world is paying the same rate.
 
2011-12-20 11:55:03 PM
How many people still consult paper maps when they're trying to drive somewhere? Not many I'll bet.
 
2011-12-20 11:55:14 PM
How about actually remembering phone numbers?
 
2011-12-20 11:58:54 PM
dmars: davidphogan: 5) Having to pay someone else to develop photographs.

How old are the author's kids?

6) Driving to a store to rent a movie.

I mean, are they 15 or something?

They probably are 15 or even younger,

let's see he said as a kid he had to change the TV for grandpa in the 70s, let us just guess he was between 5 to10 in 1976, that would mean he didn't start having kids till about 1996 making his first kid be around 15 years old and the rest younger,

I am not sure as to why you are asking those questions.


His article was vague.
 
2011-12-21 12:03:01 AM
1) These days, kids teach themselves to type. THAT'S WHY THEY SUCK AT IT
4) Using a payphone SAD. Without a payphone you can't drop a dime on someone.
8) Having to endlessly search to find unique content. BUT you do have to search to find GOOD content
9) Sending letters. BIE just isn't the same
 
2011-12-21 12:10:58 AM
SpinStopper: 1) Taking a typing class.

I'm glad that I learned to touch-type. It's rather nice not having to look back and forth between the screen and the keyboard...

Most people who never learned to touch-type have no idea what they're missing. Really ;)


Touch-typing may be the best thing I picked up from high-school. The maths were good too and I had this English teacher who hammered proper essay structure into me. But the Typing is the high-school skill I use in on a daily basis.

Sadly, much of it is to post on Fark.
 
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2011-12-21 12:24:38 AM
My Dad noticed my interest in electronics and computers so he bought me a TRS-80. He encouraged me to take a high school touch typing class to encourage my efficiency, and although the class was taught on typewriters, I was the only male in a 30 person class. In high school, that meant easy pickins ;)
 
2011-12-21 12:35:50 AM
SpinStopper: 1) Taking a typing class.

I'm glad that I learned to touch-type. It's rather nice not having to look back and forth between the screen and the keyboard...

Most people who never learned to touch-type have no idea what they're missing. Really ;)


Yep, and only manual typewriters in our high school typing classes.

When my son was in middle school I convinced him to take keyboarding classes, which is about as close as you can get to typing classes nowadays. He was hesitant at first, but thanked me later when became a touch-keyboardist/typist.
 
2011-12-21 12:39:19 AM
Ken VeryBigLiar: How about actually remembering phone numbers?

Yep. When I was growing up my grandma had a personal phone book next to the one from the phone company (Pacific NW Bell). It had addresses in it too. Since we were on a party line when I was a kid, I had to recognize our ring as well.
 
2011-12-21 01:18:52 AM
cl.ly
 
2011-12-21 01:59:59 AM
9. Some folks bemoan the lost art of letter writing, but it's as dead as the dodo

Horse-shiat!

E-mail returned the art of writing letters.

We used the phone before that.

Thats why we couldnt type.
 
2011-12-21 02:40:09 AM
If you're in any sort of business where you have long-term relationships with clients and you rely on them for referrals, you may want to give letter writing a shot. Handwritten, not typed. I've been doing that more recently, and my clients have been really tickled that I'd do something like this. Many have told me that they haven't received a handwritten letter in years. Probably has more of an impact with people age 35 and above.
 
2011-12-21 02:49:44 AM
Seth'n'Spectrum: SpinStopper: 1) Taking a typing class.

I'm glad that I learned to touch-type. It's rather nice not having to look back and forth between the screen and the keyboard...

Most people who never learned to touch-type have no idea what they're missing. Really ;)

My dad worked in software for 30 years, starting in the '80s on stuff like rockets and airplanes and other cool things. He still can't touch type. (And yes, he hates the concept of "consumer electronics.")

Returning to the list, I can't wait for the generation that doesn't know what a long distance international call is because everyone in the world is paying the same rate.


My dad also has been in software for many decades and he too still has to hunt and peck to type. I just don't get it.

Also, davidphogan I took a typing class in middle school. When I took it I was just concerned with passing the lessons like you nut I never took the time to actually learn to type like they were teaching =/. I'm guessing you did what I did and just tried to pass as fast as you could while looking at your hands, since Mavis Beacon can't tell if you cheat. It took me many years to get over the bad typing habits that I blew off when I should have been learning in my typing class.
 
2011-12-21 03:18:17 AM
THEY LEFT OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING:


- Writing in cursive.
 
2011-12-21 05:52:13 AM
With multiple pictures of what a douche might look like.
 
2011-12-21 05:58:51 AM
1. Typing Class? No, they'll take it, if only because having a keyboard is an ever more ubiquitous part of daily life.

2. Constantly writing checks? I don't recall anyone 'constantly' writing checks in the first place. That it's down from 10 to 2 means you still have a farking checkbook.

3. Buying an Encyclopedia? Welcome to the world of public farking libraries dumbass, running strong for centuries.

4. Pay phones and 'long-distance' bills? Pay phones I get, sure. Long-distance has been replaced with 'wireless service bill'.

5. Developing Photos? Okay, I'm with the crazy old coot on this one.

6. Driving to a store to rent a movie? Redbox.

7. Storing information on physical media? Until the 'cloud' somehow manages to become a more useful means of storage for all things rather than just specific file formats or purchased content, having the discs will retain value.

8. Searching endlessly to find unique content? Perhaps the author has missed something, finding 'unique' content is still a pain. Online vendors are no different than ye olde brick and mortar stores. Most pander and cater to the masses, a few have their niche market, and the 'unique' crap is still a pain to actually find. More so due to the gross lack of searching skills of most people.

9. Sending Letters? Fair enough.

10. Being without the Internet? Oh I think they will, especially when they misbehave and parents need a convenience to remove to reinforce the lesson of the moment.
 
2011-12-21 07:15:38 AM
Harry_Seldon:

Came for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2011-12-21 08:40:55 AM
HOWEVER when they call someone, the first question is usually "Where are you?" That was never necessary when all phones were hanging on the kitchen wall of the person called.

/telephones were hard wired
//TV signals came in via air waves
 
2011-12-21 09:14:41 AM
FNG: My Dad noticed my interest in electronics and computers so he bought me a TRS-80. He encouraged me to take a high school touch typing class to encourage my efficiency, and although the class was taught on typewriters, I was the only male in a 30 person class. In high school, that meant easy pickins ;)

I took two years of typing in high school. The first year was pretty much split boy/girl because most of the jocks took it as an easy pass. But typing II when I was a senior was a complete babeorama. Me and twenty five girls, and me usually enjoying a really nice first period buzz. Oh, and the teacher was rather hot too.

Best class I ever took.
 
2011-12-21 10:56:33 AM
4) Using a payphone or racking up a big "long-distance" bill.

Now you just pay $120-$150 a month for the "family plan" cell phone service instead of the $25 a regular home phone used to cost.
 
2011-12-21 10:58:56 AM
Unfortunately, the list does not include gratuitiously link-baiting layout for useless lists of factoids.

If they'd at least done it 1 item per page on 10 pages it wouldn't have insulted my intelligence as much.
 
2011-12-21 12:10:29 PM
adenosine: SharkTrager: stuff

Legitimate copy. You wouldn't download a car, would you?


Would the original car still be there for the owner in an unaltered, completely usable form?
 
2011-12-21 12:21:34 PM
SpinStopper: 1) Taking a typing class.

I'm glad that I learned to touch-type. It's rather nice not having to look back and forth between the screen and the keyboard...

Most people who never learned to touch-type have no idea what they're missing. Really ;)


You havbe no idea what you are talking about. I can tule ijsat fine without looking at the keyvoard
 
2011-12-21 02:03:50 PM
ReapTheChaos: Now you just pay $120-$150 a month for the "family plan" cell phone service instead of the $25 a regular home phone used to cost.

They do still have land lines, you know. Don't have kids if you want to be a cheap bastard.
 
2011-12-21 09:43:25 PM
adenosine: SharkTrager: stuff

Legitimate copy. You wouldn't download a car, would you?


I would if I could.
 
2011-12-21 10:27:37 PM
I thought the whole "yelling at cloud" thing meant "complaining about" progress, not merely making observations.

I don't think the author is complaining, so the headline fails.

/oops, my record is skipping
 
2011-12-22 12:14:47 AM
FTFA: new communications and social media technologies have made it easier than ever for us to stay in close and continuous contact with friends and family.

He says that like it's a good thing.
 
2011-12-22 01:26:14 PM
Tor_Eckman: FNG: My Dad noticed my interest in electronics and computers so he bought me a TRS-80. He encouraged me to take a high school touch typing class to encourage my efficiency, and although the class was taught on typewriters, I was the only male in a 30 person class. In high school, that meant easy pickins ;)

I took two years of typing in high school. The first year was pretty much split boy/girl because most of the jocks took it as an easy pass. But typing II when I was a senior was a complete babeorama. Me and twenty five girls, and me usually enjoying a really nice first period buzz. Oh, and the teacher was rather hot too.

Best class I ever took.


Odd. I took a typing class waaay before the personal computer era and I don't remember being that rare as a male. Maybe its because my school was in an upper-class area and a lot of us were there so we could type our own papers in HS and college.
 
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