Medical problems are a private affair, not socialized.

Dinki: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I do find it deliciously ironic that for all the billions of dollars that Big Pharma claims they spend on R&D researchers at a university in Canada, working under a single payer system, beat them to it by a mile.

Well when the primary focus of your research is viagra, rogaine, or medications that only treat symptoms and not causes of diseases, you tend to fall behind on real medical research.

Why you gotta be a hater?
They will cure baldness one day. Hopefully in my lifetime.

Politics, schmolitics.

If they actually did it they deserve a Nobel prize.

So what you are saying, if I follow correctly, is that the money centered health care system drives US pharma to seek out profitable lifestyle treatments instead of genuine life saving medicine? Well NOW you tell me...

Big pharma would rather sell you a treatment you need for the rest of your life than a cure that you only pay for once.

Trust me, I'm the doc.. pharmacy student.

Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure it's the private insurers profiting on the suffering of sick people that's preventing socialized medicine in the US.

Insurers, not care providers, and subby was talking more about researchers.

Subby also failed to note that the research work was funded by venture capitalists, not government.

Dr. Chil-Yong Kang and a team at the university, funded by pharmaceutical venture company Sumagen Canada,

So everyone seems to be failing at making a valid point.

b-b-b-but the free market will save us from AIDS! Just like how it was private business that got us to the moon!

It'll mean something if they can get past the first round of trials.

I'm amused by the fact that the article makes zero mention of the United States healthcare system. So we'll just see more inter-country biatching than acknowledgment of the fact that they made an HIV vaccine.

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Hm. I wonder if this means I can finally start having sex again.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure it's the private insurers profiting on the suffering of sick people that's preventing socialized medicine in the US.

Well, I see that this thread has already been taken care of. :)

Seriously though, this is awesome news, and I hope that this vaccine works. If it does, it can save millions of people. I do find it deliciously ironic that for all the billions of dollars that Big Pharma claims they spend on R&D, researchers at a university in Canada, working under a single payer system, beat them to it by a mile.

Development was funded by a for profit venture pharma firm, what does Canada's healthcare system have to do with anything?

Yes, because we've never run a single HIV vaccine study in the US.

I'm not going to defend our insurance companies, but Canada's healthcare system had exactly nothing to do with this. It was university research, funded by gov't grant, probably NSERC (Canada's NIH). However, the fact that Canada doesn't have a single suitable BSL-3 lab for vaccine production does say something about their science infrastructure. BSL-3 labs are a-dime-a-dozen and BSL-4s aren't exactly unknown down here.

/good luck, though

Yeah, but still no cure for cancer et al.

BEES!

Say what you want, but in my simple mind Red Wine and aspirin cure everything.

Seriously? You linked to The Sun on a science story? Its like linking to Fox News. Did you read some of the comments posted there?

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I do find it deliciously ironic that for all the billions of dollars that Big Pharma claims they spend on R&D, researchers at a university in Canada, working under a single payer system, beat them to it by a mile.

Even more deliciouser, the vaccine is being produced in the US because Canada lacks a suitable lab. So we get to be Canada's research biatch. Awesome.

On the plus side, if it works, it'll be a good thing for all humans. As a consumer, I really don't care who cures incurable diseases...as long as I can afford the cure(s) that I need.

Funded by venture capitalists and using US facilities because a comparable location does not exist in Canada? Look, I'm the first to argue that the US health care system sucks, but this article isn't really trumpeting the glory of Canadian medicine.

Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure it's the private insurers profiting on the suffering of sick people that's preventing socialized medicine in the US.

Its the pharmaceutical companies making the most money.

Besides we cured magic johnson so fark canada.

Twin 40s: I'm amused by the fact that the article makes zero mention of the United States healthcare system. So we'll just see more inter-country biatching than acknowledgment of the fact that they made an are testing HIV vaccine.

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Hope it works, but we are not there yet.

Can't wait for this to come up in the Republican debates. Santorum will complain that it promotes promiscuity, Bachmann will complain that it makes people retarded, Paul will complain that it can't possibly be any good since it came from Canada, and Gingrich will say he personally made it possible. Huntsman will make some sarcastic remark about each of these comments, but no one will be listening.

ChubbyTiger: I'm not going to defend our insurance companies, but Canada's healthcare system had exactly nothing to do with this. It was university research, funded by gov't grant, probably NSERC (Canada's NIH). However, the fact that Canada doesn't have a single suitable BSL-3 lab for vaccine production does say something about their science infrastructure. BSL-3 labs are a-dime-a-dozen and BSL-4s aren't exactly unknown down here.

/good luck, though

Don't piss on their parade, they are trying to tout how great Obama is since he most likely will lose next year.

The Canucks came up with a vaccine that prevents guys from having anal sex with other guys? Bravo!

Headline: blah blah blah
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No nationalism detected.

/submitter, life's not worth it. You were right all along. Go kill yourself. Don't worry about the mess, the rest of us complain about the messes we have to clean up week to week, but that's just normal human stuff.

Just to rub salt on the US's ego wounds, a while ago Cuba announced the world's first therapeutic vaccine for lung cancer.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-09/cuba-releases-worlds-fi r st-lung-cancer-vaccine

Economic liberalism sucks, and the world knows it.

A remedy for AIDS has been known for awhile.

steamingpile: Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure it's the private insurers profiting on the suffering of sick people that's preventing socialized medicine in the US.

Its the pharmaceutical companies making the most money.

Besides we cured magic johnson so fark canada.

Actually, its probably the malpractice attorneys making the most money, when I think about it. Big Pharma has to at least outlay some cash for smart people and expensive research facilities. Lawyers just need some books, the internet, a table, and a cheap suit.

Jesus tapdancing Christ, some Canadian scientists develop a potentially life saving vaccine and instead of celebrating this good news the fark-wits turn it into yet another Anti-American babble-stream.

WTF? Is it really that bad here in the US? Or is it just one of those hipster 'cool-kid' things to bad-mouth the US with every breath?

First... what else can you say to the Great White North except thank you and the entire world salutes your efforts. This disease was the first in nearly a century that made the all nations realize an imminent threat to the human race and the most important war to be won.

Second... will it taste like back bacon or maple syrup?

The headline is a great unintentional troll. Research, paid for by a venture capital company, that could only be performed in US labs, will be tested by the FDA, which it also says is the premier standard in the world, shows how awesome Canada is? Really?

Canadian researchers have been given a green light to test a vaccine for HIV/AIDS on humans.

It is the only HIV vaccine currently under development in Canada, and one of only a few in the world, said the researchers.

Kang said the vaccine is being produced at special "bio-safety level 3" laboratories in Maryland and Colorado because there is no suitable lab in Canada.

Hey failmitter, enjoy your Labatt Bleh. You've earned it.

I bet it's derived from maple syrup.

What exactly does subby think the link between healthcare and drug development is?