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2011-12-20 03:36:06 PM  

ParagonComplex: "riddle me this, riddle me that, whachya gonna do brother when I break the bat. Oohhhh yeeeeeeeeyuh, DIG IT"


you magnificent bastige.

snap into a bat-man. ooooooo yeah.
 
2011-12-20 03:37:11 PM  

tarkus1980: Is everybody deaf?


"'Is everybody dead?'"

Bonus Fark-Fu points for anyone who can tell me what that's a reference to.

/Nothing's obscure on Fark
 
2011-12-20 03:40:02 PM  
I was able to understand about half of Bane's dialogue from my seat in the IMAX theater. Having the overall sound mix too high and not being able to see Tom Hardy's mouth both contributed to the problem.
 
2011-12-20 03:40:17 PM  

bittermang: I just thought he sounded like Optimus Prime.


Only... eeeeevil. o.o
 
2011-12-20 03:42:35 PM  

tlchwi02: if they're going to push 3D on every movie, even though it makes a significant portion of the population physically ill, then i don't see why this is such a big freaking deal


Obviously, the best solution for this is "don't go see 3D movies." But if your friends like 3D movies and you're considerate enough to hate forcing them to go see 2D movies just for you, a pair of 2D glasses for $8 is a brilliant solution to the problem. Essentially, both eyes just have the "left eye" lens in them... so with them on, you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended, regardless of whether or not the movie theater has decided to rape your visual cortex with their evil eye-lasers.
 
2011-12-20 03:44:00 PM  

PizzaJedi81: Chthonic Echoes: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

You're giving him way too much credit.

Really, I tried stopping that much, MUCH earlier, but it...it kinda got away from me.


If you had, I wouldn't have laughed so hard.
 
2011-12-20 03:44:30 PM  
Anyone know if the football field imploding looks better in IMAX? Right now that's the only part that has me questioning the quality of the movie. It just looks really corny, almost like a straight to SyFy channel affair.

I still can't wait for the movie though.
 
2011-12-20 03:47:07 PM  

raygundan: ...you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended...


...for $5 more than a plain old movie.
 
2011-12-20 03:49:39 PM  

Smiths: Not trolling here but am I the only one who was bored by Dark Knight? Just went too long and could have easily have had an hour chopped off of it.

I enjoyed the first one more; Batman Begins was a great fresh start and all.

Something about The Dark Knight just annoyed me and bored me.


Yeah. When you're sitting through the ~TENSE ACTION SEQUENCES~ and wondering when the fark it's going to be done already, that definitely makes it bad. I don't know what went wrong with TDK, but it feels less FUN than Batman Begins. BB was a fun ride that was awesome and kickass. TDK just trudged along and pretended to be awesome and ~deep~, and the fanboys ate it up for some reason.
 
2011-12-20 03:51:38 PM  

Arklop: It's called ADR and it's fairly common in the film industry though some actors refuse to do it because they aren't able to deliver their lines in a recording studio in the same way they can on set.


Maybe they should hire some people who can pretend they are on a set
 
2011-12-20 03:56:18 PM  
The line in the trailer is what he sounds like when he's at his most understandable. The lines in the prologue are quite muffled. It phases in and out. It definitely needs to change a little, I just hope it doesn't have to change TOO much.

While he's hard to understand, he also sounds really, really cool.
 
2011-12-20 03:57:09 PM  

asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...


Til Lindemann v The Bat Man.


This I would pay for the seeing. Of.
 
2011-12-20 03:58:26 PM  

Captain Steroid: bittermang: I just thought he sounded like Optimus Prime.

Only... eeeeevil. o.o


So.... Nemesis Prime?
 
2011-12-20 04:00:01 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...

Til Lindemann v The Bat Man.


This I would pay for the seeing. Of.


I already saw it but Linderman was Batman and Moody was Bane.

drupal.cdm.dsub.net

/obscure?
//prolly not
 
2011-12-20 04:05:11 PM  

Pochas: Sarah Palin's Conscience: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily

Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.

He has to disguise his voice so people don't figure out that he's Bruce Wayne. Also it is more intimidating than talking like Adam West or Michael Keaton.


Then why not do an accent instead, I bet he could do a credible Welsh...
 
2011-12-20 04:05:40 PM  

Gordian Cipher: raygundan: ...you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended...

...for $5 more than a plain old movie.


Plus $8 for the glasses, yes. I'm not claiming this is some sort of earth-shattering optimal solution. It is, however, an easy fix for somebody in a specific situation, namely:

0. Gets headaches at 3D movies
1. Likes seeing movies with friends
2. Has friends who prefer 3D films
3. Doesn't want to force them to see 2D films
4. Doesn't want to tell them to piss off and find new friends
5. Has $8 plus $5 extra per film to spend, and doesn't mind spending it because of the above
 
2011-12-20 04:09:55 PM  

AllUpInYa: hitlersbrain: Egoy3k: You nerds need to be happy with what you get just once in your miserable comic book guy worst. Life. Ever. Not everything is a competition to show how much more sophisticated and intelligent you are but being 'above' the things other people like.

They made a bloody movie about a guy who dresses up as a bat and beats the crap out of equally unlikely characters and yet some people like to point out that the characters aren't well developed? If they were well developed they wouldn't be dressing up in costumes and fighting in the first place because NOBODY DOES THAT.

Christ just take it and buy tickets before they make a Hangover part 3!

Why don't they make movies like 'Tom goes shopping' or 'Sally drives to work'? I would totally pay $15 to see a totally believable movie about totally real stuff.

So, you'll see a movie based on a totally unbelievable premise, and then, complain about how unreal the movie is???


Interesting characters always help. Poorly developed characters always hurt. Some big scary guy doing amazing things with a sword in a fantasy action movie could be cool. Some scrawny little girls killing scores of guys 2-3 times her size and flying for no good reason must suck.

It's not that hard. You can have a good sci-fi space flick with faster than light travel but not realizing that a small asteroid does not posses nearly enough gravity to affect a cup of coffee means you suck and so does your movie.

suspension of disbelief is not license to write crap.
 
2011-12-20 04:12:08 PM  
Just caption his lines. It worked for the nightclub scene in "Trainspotting".
 
2011-12-20 04:13:13 PM  
I think it's hard to tell from such a short clip where your attention isn't focused or attuned to the sound.
 
2011-12-20 04:13:25 PM  
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2011-12-20 04:13:44 PM  

raygundan: Gordian Cipher: raygundan: ...you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended...

...for $5 more than a plain old movie.

Plus $8 for the glasses, yes. I'm not claiming this is some sort of earth-shattering optimal solution. It is, however, an easy fix for somebody in a specific situation, namely:

0. Gets headaches at 3D movies
1. Likes seeing movies with friends
2. Has friends who prefer 3D films
3. Doesn't want to force them to see 2D films
4. Doesn't want to tell them to piss off and find new friends
5. Has $8 plus $5 extra per film to spend, and doesn't mind spending it because of the above


Try convincing your friends to sit farther back. If your headaches are caused because the film is causing you to converge your eyes in ways that aren't comfortable for you, the 3D effect is sometimes a little easier to deal with if you're towards the back of the room. The further back you are, the less work your eyes have to do since those minor parralax shifts are smaller adjustments.

/Have worked on three 3D films
//not one of them was better for being in 3D
 
2011-12-20 04:17:27 PM  
just watched a bootlegged vid of the prologue. He is really hard to understand, hopefully its just the nature of the video and it will sound clearer when actually sitting in the theatre. Im not worried, I thought casting Heath Ledger as the Joker was a mistake and we all know how that turned out...

/Hathaway in tight black anything is worth the price of admission
 
2011-12-20 04:17:57 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I think it's hard to tell from such a short clip where your attention isn't focused or attuned to the sound.


I'm not a big fan of dialogue being hidden in the mix, but I didn't mind Bane that much in that one clip. I also think that context would probably help a ton when you're watching. That being said, and assuming this film's going to audience testing, if your focus group says, "We can't understand that character"... you really have to change it. It's one thing if you're making a movie that 14 people are going to see in an arthouse and 16 more will see on BluRay. It's another if it's a comic book movie that has a budget in the tens of millions (or hundreds) and is intended to appeal to the mass market. Whatever "artistic" concerns the director has (and not to take anything away, he's a very talented dude) you CAN make that character intelligible AND sound cool... and you have the money to do it.
 
2011-12-20 04:24:55 PM  
I couldn't understand it at all.
 
2011-12-20 04:25:44 PM  

raygundan: Obviously, the best solution for this is "don't go see 3D movies." But if your friends like 3D movies and you're considerate enough to hate forcing them to go see 2D movies just for you, a pair of 2D glasses for $8 is a brilliant solution to the problem. Essentially, both eyes just have the "left eye" lens in them... so with them on, you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended, regardless of whether or not the movie theater has decided to rape your visual cortex with their evil eye-lasers.


that is sweet. Could have used those when we got the imax tickets for harry potter and already had dinner reservations before we realized they were 3D only. i was the only one who gets really bothered by 3D so i sat through it, but for 8 bucks i totally would have grabbed those
 
2011-12-20 04:26:07 PM  

The Flexecutioner: AngryJailhouseFistfark: asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...

Til Lindemann v The Bat Man.


This I would pay for the seeing. Of.

I already saw it but Linderman was Batman and Moody was Bane.

[drupal.cdm.dsub.net image 377x251]

/obscure?
//prolly not

My Bodyguard

, Starring Tom Jayne?
 
2011-12-20 04:27:42 PM  
In recent days I have watched all the "Avengers" movies up to now, I have had to repeatedly turn it up for dialogue, and back down for boom-boom. Especially with Hulk, which I I watched last week. There is some kind of AGC that ain't happenin when they master these soundtracks these days.

/what?
 
2011-12-20 04:31:11 PM  
Why is Bane shorter than batman?
 
2011-12-20 04:32:30 PM  

tlchwi02: if they're going to push 3D on every movie, even though it makes a significant portion of the population physically ill, then i don't see why this is such a big freaking deal


Meh. Fark 'em. They can watch it in non 3D at home in their vomitorium.
 
2011-12-20 04:32:31 PM  
I'll give them that Bane is a little scratchy, but I also think redubbing his lines would not be a Herculean task. Frankly, I'm already picturing the inevitable mashup videos where his audio is replaced by Darth Vader or Gilbert Godfrey or something...

What I would like to hear more clearly is the "Rise" chant... I'm just curious to know more precisely what they're saying.
 
2011-12-20 04:32:56 PM  
Sounds like Sean Connery with a head cold, but I could make out the words well enough
 
2011-12-20 04:35:39 PM  

Arklop: ArcadianRefugee: Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

It's called ADR and it's fairly common in the film industry though some actors refuse to do it because they aren't able to deliver their lines in a recording studio in the same way they can on set. Some even have clauses in their contracts that they won't do it.


/Automatic Dialog Replacement
//nothing automatic about it


It's actually automated dialog replacement, though I think originally it was the even more sensible additional dialog recording.

And this film needs it badly. I said yesterday that this would be the biggest complaint about the movie, and Nolan is less genius and more complete schmuck if he thinks that having the villain be incomprehensible to many movie-goers is a statement of artistic integrity. It's one thing to stand your ground when asked to replace dialog for content, another entirely when asked to replace it for comprehension. I somehow doubt having Bane's motivation made unintelligible by his garbled speech is going to make it a better, more engrossing movie.
 
2011-12-20 04:36:09 PM  

23FPB23: In recent days I have watched all the "Avengers" movies up to now, I have had to repeatedly turn it up for dialogue, and back down for boom-boom. Especially with Hulk, which I I watched last week. There is some kind of AGC that ain't happenin when they master these soundtracks these days.

/what?


They probably never remixed from the theatrical version, just literally ushered the 5.1 (or 7.1 or whatever) tracks that they used in the theatrical to the BluRay. During the mix, they probably decreed that dialogue would beat at ____ dB level but that they'd leave some overhead for when they really wanted to blow the audience's hair back. At home, we usually listen to movies at a lower level, so we have to volume set so that the explosions don't knock our neighbours' family photos off their walls, but that means we can't hear the dialogue.

Most sound surround systems have a "night" or a "clear voice" mode that boosts the center channel relative to the R/L and the surrounds. If yours has one, this would be a good setting to turn on. Also, surround systems usually let you set individual speaker volumes, so you might want to go ahead and turn your center channel up and the dialogues will all be better.

If you don't have a home theatre... well... shiat, I wish you luck.
 
2011-12-20 04:40:03 PM  
Is this some kind of mass troll? Bane sounds perfectly clear to me. Surely a slight British accent isn't bewildering you all? He sounds like Anthony Hopkins.
 
2011-12-20 04:41:33 PM  

Wayne 985:

In the trailer, he sounds like a British Darth Vader, as I said in another thread.



Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."
 
2011-12-20 04:41:47 PM  
Well, go on then, Nolan. Spaz it down a bit for the mouthbreathers, the hard-of-hearing and the hard-of-thinking.
 
2011-12-20 04:43:04 PM  

tlchwi02: raygundan: Obviously, the best solution for this is "don't go see 3D movies." But if your friends like 3D movies and you're considerate enough to hate forcing them to go see 2D movies just for you, a pair of 2D glasses for $8 is a brilliant solution to the problem. Essentially, both eyes just have the "left eye" lens in them... so with them on, you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended, regardless of whether or not the movie theater has decided to rape your visual cortex with their evil eye-lasers.

that is sweet. Could have used those when we got the imax tickets for harry potter and already had dinner reservations before we realized they were 3D only. i was the only one who gets really bothered by 3D so i sat through it, but for 8 bucks i totally would have grabbed those


In a pinch, you can make your own from two pairs of regular 3D glasses and some duct tape. It's not rocket science, although it's worth remembering that the lenses have to stay oriented the same way-- so tape them back together so that the same edge is "up" on both lenses as it was before you engaged in petty vandalism to avoid a migraine.
 
2011-12-20 04:43:05 PM  

Teen Wolf Blitzer: Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."


I'm not sure whether to laugh at the technicality or shake my head at you. Which should I do?
 
2011-12-20 04:43:18 PM  
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2011-12-20 04:45:43 PM  

mongbiohazard: doubled99: I heard him fine as well. Heard of Bane before but didn't know about the "constantly inhaled drug" thing.
Farking stupid. Why doesn't everyone use it? Why not take his mask off and kick him in the nuts? Where does he get refills?


He's kind of an anti-Batman. He's as smart as Batman, but without the moral scruples. Getting close enough to take his mask off would be like getting close enough to try and take Batman's mask off... not a very wise idea.

Bane grew up in a prison (long story short, his dad was supposed to go to prison for something and fled, so they imprisoned his young child in his place - must be a great vacation destination), where he learned to be ruthless and how to kill a man at a young age. He was smart, so he educated himself as much as he could, then eventually was forced to participate in a medical experiment with a new drug.

The drug is called Venom and it's experimental. The drug killed all the previous test subjects (a good reason why there aren't a bunch of people running around on it). The user is granted a big boost in strength, sort of a quasi super soldier serum, but it is addictive. When the drug is withdrawn the positive effects go away as well, and sometimes the user even becomes weaker than before they started taking it.

In the comics, Bane is the only character to have actually handed Batman a legitimate, full-on defeat. He out thought him, then out fought him and broke Batman's back, leaving him to die. That's why Schumacher turning Bane into a growling, retarded, lackey of other villains was such a tragedy.

The Joker is a fearsome foe because he challenges Batman's ideology, forcing him into difficult moral quandries for fun. Bane, on the other hand, is a fearsome foe because he challenges Batman's ability. Bane is both Batman's physical AND intellectual equal.


Do we know for sure they're going to lobotomize Bane or is this just an assumption based on him not having any easily quantifiable displays of intellect in the trailers?

I'm right with you on preferring Batman to have a real equal and Bane being it, but showing smarts in a brief advert is really tough to do unless you want to rehash some tropes that are so over-used (like having him play chess, do long-form calculations on a whiteboard, or do chemistry, or recite obscure poetry). If he's planning a top-down take-down of Gotham's establishment then he should be pretty smart.

/Wish this would give rise to an Azrael spin-off like Knightfall did.
 
2011-12-20 04:47:29 PM  
I forgot that I listened to the trailer without people around my yakking on their phones. Girlfriend just got home, on the phone with someone, so I ran it again. Yeah, they need to make him clearer.
 
2011-12-20 04:49:10 PM  

Lord Summerisle: Is this some kind of mass troll? Bane sounds perfectly clear to me. Surely a slight British accent isn't bewildering you all? He sounds like Anthony Hopkins.


The theatrical trailer Bane sounds fine. However,in the prequel that is showing before MI4 Bane is unintelligible. BTW MI4 is an awesome film.
 
2011-12-20 04:51:30 PM  

23FPB23: In recent days I have watched all the "Avengers" movies up to now, I have had to repeatedly turn it up for dialogue, and back down for boom-boom. Especially with Hulk, which I I watched last week. There is some kind of AGC that ain't happenin when they master these soundtracks these days.

/what?


For normal human beings watching movies at home, "wide dynamic range" is a bug, not a feature.
 
2011-12-20 04:54:46 PM  

Mercutio74: Teen Wolf Blitzer: Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."

I'm not sure whether to laugh at the technicality or shake my head at you. Which should I do?


Laugh! The answer is always laugh
 
2011-12-20 05:00:48 PM  
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"Mmmphgh Abiryrt Mphdgjkdhd"
 
2011-12-20 05:05:09 PM  

Mercutio74: Teen Wolf Blitzer: Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."

I'm not sure whether to laugh at the technicality or shake my head at you. Which should I do?


Both....

It's not like it took three people to play Vader or anything....

/no...only three....just like how many movies there are
 
2011-12-20 05:09:13 PM  
So Bane is destroying Gotham...what does cat woman have to do with this? I will be angry if she gets the same treatment as Two Face in the last movie.

For the record, I could not understand Bane.

/deaf in one ear
 
2011-12-20 05:13:12 PM  
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2011-12-20 05:13:13 PM  
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A little Teutonic, perhaps. But no worse than Schwarzenegger.
 
2011-12-20 05:13:43 PM  

kibbled: The theatrical trailer Bane sounds fine. However,in the prequel that is showing before MI4 Bane is unintelligible. BTW MI4 is an awesome film.


My iMax showing of MI:4 only had the normal trailer. >:(. But yes, that movie was quite surprisingly good.
 
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