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(Short List)   "Mmmphgh Abiryrt Mphdgjkdhd" said Bane. "Fark" said Warners   (shortlist.com) divider line 325
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2011-12-20 12:49:30 PM
I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.
 
2011-12-20 12:50:22 PM
 
2011-12-20 12:50:45 PM
Yuu halff mah pwashom krrr *clicks* Got ham asses!
 
2011-12-20 12:51:05 PM
I also heard him fairly clearly, and this is coming from somebody who really does have a tough time understanding people sometimes.
 
2011-12-20 12:51:25 PM
Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?
 
2011-12-20 12:51:30 PM
Well, they do have 5 or so months to fix it.
 
2011-12-20 12:51:35 PM

Apos: I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.


Same here. No problems at all.

/so excited
 
2011-12-20 12:51:41 PM
So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.
 
2011-12-20 12:51:47 PM
if they're going to push 3D on every movie, even though it makes a significant portion of the population physically ill, then i don't see why this is such a big freaking deal
 
2011-12-20 12:52:00 PM
OCCUPY GOTHAM CITY!
 
2011-12-20 12:52:06 PM
I just thought he sounded like Optimus Prime.
 
2011-12-20 12:52:32 PM
"When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die."

/and I can't hear worth shiat
 
2011-12-20 12:53:18 PM
All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...it looks silly.

But if it is a problem they will remix or rerecord the dialogue. Nolan's explaination about 'not wanting to dumb it down' is nonsensical...no one is asking to change the dialogue, just to make it understandable and less muffled. Is part of Kane's persona that he is a muffled unintelligable character? If so, then keep it, if not, then change it. This is BatmanThe Rising...not high fooking art.
 
2011-12-20 12:53:35 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?


And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily
 
2011-12-20 12:54:01 PM
Maybe he was quoting Helen Keller.
 
2011-12-20 12:54:07 PM
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves.
 
2011-12-20 12:54:17 PM
WTF was that chanting I heard?

I can't wait for some shiatty batman to bain dialogue.

Batman: grmf frmfph hrtpsh
Bain: frthtgh grthh krpfff
Batman: frtghhaa hrggg grrfffff
Bain: no. u.
 
2011-12-20 12:54:18 PM
Not hearing the problem, it's plenty clear.
 
2011-12-20 12:54:28 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.


Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.
 
2011-12-20 12:56:03 PM
That wasn't too hard to understand.

Still, what's impressing me most about this movie is the fact that this is it. They aren't going for an open-ended franchise like the earlier film series. This is to be a trilogy and done. Assuming they can still to their promise.

/BtAS is still the best Batman
 
2011-12-20 12:56:10 PM
i'm old and I things that are different scare me.
 
2011-12-20 12:56:42 PM
"See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.
 
2011-12-20 12:56:59 PM
Hell, could people understand Batman in the last movie? I thought he had laryngitis
 
2011-12-20 12:57:16 PM
Not nearly as hard to understand as Hines Ward suddenly becoming Usain Bolt
 
2011-12-20 12:57:29 PM

asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...it looks silly.

But if it is a problem they will remix or rerecord the dialogue. Nolan's explaination about 'not wanting to dumb it down' is nonsensical...no one is asking to change the dialogue, just to make it understandable and less muffled. Is part of Kane's persona that he is a muffled unintelligable character? If so, then keep it, if not, then change it. This is BatmanThe Rising...not high fooking art.


cdn.bleacherreport.net
*Grunts approvingly*
 
2011-12-20 12:57:32 PM

Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.


Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.
 
2011-12-20 12:57:33 PM

PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.


You're giving him way too much credit.
 
2011-12-20 12:57:33 PM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily


Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.
 
2011-12-20 12:57:53 PM
Mumbled dialogue is as big of a problem in Hollywood these days as lens flare, shaky-cam, reboots, and bad scripts.
 
2011-12-20 12:58:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.


2/10

Recycling bait doesn't work as much anymore.

Now had you gone with a "Dark Knight was this generation's Citizen Kane" argument on the other hand.
 
2011-12-20 12:58:19 PM
There probably won't be trailer music playing over that scene in the full movie. It should be easier to hear.
 
2011-12-20 12:58:27 PM

PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.


Crap. Someone already thought of that idea? I thought my screenplay was one of a kind! DAMMIT!!!
 
2011-12-20 12:58:54 PM
I liked it, it sounds "real" and that's what Nolan's Batman is all about.
 
2011-12-20 12:58:55 PM

Chthonic Echoes: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

You're giving him way too much credit.


Really, I tried stopping that much, MUCH earlier, but it...it kinda got away from me.
 
2011-12-20 12:59:19 PM
*tries to find a scene from Loaded Weapon 1, can't*
 
2011-12-20 12:59:23 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.


And? Considering that Hollywood keeps flushing out turds for movies for people to see, I'll pay some of my hard-earned money to watch this instead.
 
2011-12-20 12:59:48 PM

Torchsong: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

Crap. Someone already thought of that idea? I thought my screenplay was one of a kind! DAMMIT!!!


Is your lead black, too?
 
2011-12-20 01:00:16 PM
Yep.. I'm in the "heard him fine" club..
 
2011-12-20 01:00:17 PM

PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.


I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."
 
2011-12-20 01:01:13 PM
When Gotham is in ashes, you have my permission to die.

I've got a lot of background noise in here, was barely listening, and I could still make that out.
 
2011-12-20 01:01:18 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?


It's called ADR and it's fairly common in the film industry though some actors refuse to do it because they aren't able to deliver their lines in a recording studio in the same way they can on set. Some even have clauses in their contracts that they won't do it.


/Automatic Dialog Replacement
//nothing automatic about it
 
2011-12-20 01:01:40 PM
I heard him fine as well. Heard of Bane before but didn't know about the "constantly inhaled drug" thing.
Farking stupid. Why doesn't everyone use it? Why not take his mask off and kick him in the nuts? Where does he get refills?
 
2011-12-20 01:01:49 PM

Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."


The...guy who hunted down all of Batman and Bruce Wayne's friends and allies, and eventually broke Batman's back...ISN'T a bad guy?
 
2011-12-20 01:03:01 PM

Obtuse_Otter: i'm old and I things that are different scare me.


Either you have serious mission critical snark fail on that post, or you are indeed old and you had a stroke. Are you ok? Do you need a coke? Just take your time next time, big guy, no one is gonna steal your lulz.
 
2011-12-20 01:03:16 PM
To be fair, mmphghf mmrrabph mugurgle
 
2011-12-20 01:03:22 PM

Sarah Palin's Conscience: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily

Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.


Agreed. Pretty sure I didn't catch a single line of dialogue from Batman in the last film. Also, I don't think I'm supposed to laugh when Batman speaks.
 
2011-12-20 01:03:30 PM
Reminded me of Roger Waters bleating at the beginning of Waiting For The Worms. Other people claim that the only reason you can't understand him is because the background noise of the airplane coming apart, but I couldn't "easily" understand his one sentence from the trailer either. I say keep it as it is and add subtitles. Otherwise, pray that he's not going to be giving any exposition speeches.
 
2011-12-20 01:03:37 PM

PizzaJedi81: Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."

The...guy who hunted down all of Batman and Bruce Wayne's friends and allies, and eventually broke Batman's back...ISN'T a bad guy?


No.
 
2011-12-20 01:03:41 PM
I had a hard time understanding his first line and one of his later lines from the prologue bootleg, but I was simply unprepared for his first line since he was out of frame when he started to speak (plus it was a bootleg). I have no problem understanding him in the trailer so I'm not sure what the problem is. His accent and inflection is definitely odd but I like it. Remixed voice or not, I'll just have to pay closer attention when I see this movie in the theater. Not a big deal.
 
2011-12-20 01:03:53 PM
Not trolling here but am I the only one who was bored by Dark Knight? Just went too long and could have easily have had an hour chopped off of it.

I enjoyed the first one more; Batman Begins was a great fresh start and all.

Something about The Dark Knight just annoyed me and bored me.
 
2011-12-20 01:03:57 PM
Perfectly clear to me, but I have a 20 month old at home.
 
2011-12-20 01:04:21 PM
Love this pic

t1.gstatic.com
 
2011-12-20 01:04:23 PM
Eh, I could understand. Movie looks bad, though.
 
2011-12-20 01:04:24 PM
It isn't any worse than gravel-voice Batman.
 
2011-12-20 01:04:30 PM
That wasn't hard to understand at all. Who the heck are these people who can't understand it? Do they use sign language to communicate?
 
2011-12-20 01:04:49 PM

PizzaJedi81: Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."

The...guy who hunted down all of Batman and Bruce Wayne's friends and allies, and eventually broke Batman's back...ISN'T a bad guy?


He's bounced back and forth between good guy/bad guy. He's a bad guy at the beginning who becomes good, who is then tricked into becoming bad, then good again, and (IIRC) he's now back on the bad side (again).
 
2011-12-20 01:05:10 PM

hailin: Apos: I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.

Same here. No problems at all.

/so excited


Add another one. I really think most people are biatching just to hear themselves biatch on this one. Hell, even in a bootleg of the prologue where the sound is garbled to shiat by limitations of the equipment, I still fully understood him.
 
2011-12-20 01:05:12 PM
Is everybody deaf?
 
2011-12-20 01:05:42 PM

Torchsong: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

Crap. Someone already thought of that idea? I thought my screenplay was one of a kind! DAMMIT!!!


I'm relieved to see that the script I've been working on for the past few years, centering on a story about a professor who taught 17th century Latvian Cabinetmaking, finding true love by first befriending a young autistic boy on campus and then getting to know his mother, a paraplegic who can speak 7 different languages and play the pan flute with her ass, has yet been replicated by someone. I'm hoping to get it shot next year.
 
2011-12-20 01:06:28 PM

Sarah Palin's Conscience: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily

Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.


He has to disguise his voice so people don't figure out that he's Bruce Wayne. Also it is more intimidating than talking like Adam West or Michael Keaton.
 
2011-12-20 01:06:33 PM

PizzaJedi81: Torchsong: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

Crap. Someone already thought of that idea? I thought my screenplay was one of a kind! DAMMIT!!!

Is your lead black, too?


No, but it was going to star Sally Field as the divorced bisexual prostitute AND...thanks to CGI magic...her nymphomaniac mother. At one point I was going to have Field on Field action, and then I was just going to walk up the aisle at the academy, grab my Oscar for best screenplay, look at the audience and say "You're welcome, biatches!"
 
2011-12-20 01:06:35 PM

Apos: I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.


Assuming you've seen the prologue and trailer, I'm calling bullshiat if you're claiming to have understood everything he says. I picked up on about 80% the first time around and only caught some line after multiple viewings.
 
2011-12-20 01:06:40 PM

gunga galunga: Maybe he was quoting Helen Keller.


You understood that? Was it something about spending two years in an attic? Maybe it was "Attica", and that's why he's after Batman.
 
2011-12-20 01:06:41 PM

Killer Cars: I'm hoping to get it shot next year.


Yes, please, put us out of our misery.
 
2011-12-20 01:06:44 PM
Wouldn't it be easy to fix this a bit in post-production? Filter the voice to make it a bit tinny and gravely, but sharpen it a bit for the sake of being able to clearly understand it? I mean, you don't even have to synch it to mouth movements.

It just seems like a 100% avoidable problem.
 
2011-12-20 01:07:20 PM

scottydoesntknow: PizzaJedi81: Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."

The...guy who hunted down all of Batman and Bruce Wayne's friends and allies, and eventually broke Batman's back...ISN'T a bad guy?

He's bounced back and forth between good guy/bad guy. He's a bad guy at the beginning who becomes good, who is then tricked into becoming bad, then good again, and (IIRC) he's now back on the bad side (again).


He was 'good' in Secret Six...is he 'bad' again?
 
2011-12-20 01:07:52 PM
I watched the trailer yesterday, and I had no problem understanding what Bane said. It sounds great to me. Like a combination of Darth Vader and the Animated Series' Mr. Freeze. It's a good fit.

People are jumping all over this, yet no one complains whenever Benicio Del Toro speaks in any movie he's in? Come on.
 
2011-12-20 01:08:33 PM

scottydoesntknow: PizzaJedi81: Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."

The...guy who hunted down all of Batman and Bruce Wayne's friends and allies, and eventually broke Batman's back...ISN'T a bad guy?

He's bounced back and forth between good guy/bad guy. He's a bad guy at the beginning who becomes good, who is then tricked into becoming bad, then good again, and (IIRC) he's now back on the bad side (again).


It was my understanding that he grew up in a prison, and so he had to establish superiority.
 
2011-12-20 01:09:15 PM
I want Nolan to mess with Warner and make Bane's vocals harder to understand in the film itself.
 
2011-12-20 01:09:33 PM

Scurvy Dog: gunga galunga: Maybe he was quoting Helen Keller.

You understood that? Was it something about spending two years in an attic? Maybe it was "Attica", and that's why he's after Batman.


You're thinking of Garrison Keillor.
 
2011-12-20 01:10:16 PM

PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.


The sequal to "Winters Bone"?
 
2011-12-20 01:10:17 PM
Sarah Palin's Conscience: "I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way."

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6643191/batman-chooses-his-voice

/answer me hobbitses
 
2011-12-20 01:11:30 PM
This movie is looking less and less like a guaranteed winner. Bane already looked stupid and now he sounds stupid too, not to mention the monstrosity that is the flying tumbler.
 
2011-12-20 01:11:38 PM

Torchsong: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

Crap. Someone already thought of that idea? I thought my screenplay was one of a kind! DAMMIT!!!


Don't worry, I'm a Hollywood creative genius. I can save your script.

First off, change the widowed zookeeper to a Nepalese Sherpa, ditch the boating accident for a tragic beekeeping accident backstory and add in some explosions. Lots of explosions. We make the long-lost son a time-travelling cyborg, who's come back in time for sex. Then he blows up in the third act, saving the prostitute from a bunch of German terrorists and bam! Roll credits. It's in the bag, baby, I'll have my people call your people.
 
2011-12-20 01:12:11 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Scurvy Dog: gunga galunga: Maybe he was quoting Helen Keller.

You understood that? Was it something about spending two years in an attic? Maybe it was "Attica", and that's why he's after Batman.

You're thinking of Garrison Keillor.


The folksy guy who does those Motel 6 "We'll leave a light on for you" commercials on the radio? I could see that. I stayed in one of those one night and it didn't seem much better than a prison.
 
2011-12-20 01:12:23 PM
I understood him perfectly well in the trailer. "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die." I did not, however, understand all of what he said in the prologue. I chalk that more up to the shiatty bootleg I saw and the fact that all the characters were hard to understand because they were mostly yelling over the rushing sounds of an open airplane.
 
2011-12-20 01:12:45 PM

Pochas: Sarah Palin's Conscience: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily

Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.

He has to disguise his voice so people don't figure out that he's Bruce Wayne. Also it is more intimidating than talking like Adam West or Michael Keaton.


Thanks, Cpt. Obvious.

My thing is that he doesn't have to sound like that. I that's the best he could do, then they should have had someone come in and voice over.
 
2011-12-20 01:13:01 PM

socodog: WTF was that chanting I heard?

As best as I can remember, it was something like "deh-shay bah-sah-rah" That's just what people where given to phonetically understand how to chant it.

 
2011-12-20 01:13:53 PM

PizzaJedi81: Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."

The...guy who hunted down all of Batman and Bruce Wayne's friends and allies, and eventually broke Batman's back...ISN'T a bad guy?


He's had a redemption of sorts (a 'face turn' if you will) in recent comics. At least as recent as the first two Secret Six series (the last DC stuff I've read in a while.) Sort of making him into a honorable mercenary type of character.

But, if history is any indication, the comic version of the character is going to morph into a closer match to the movie version so that people who they hope to lure into starting to read the comics won't be confused by the differences.

And, now that the Nolan trilogy is coming to an end, how soon until we get our Sparkly-Batman reboot, like we're seeing in the Spiderman movie? You know it's coming...

/also, Bane injects his Venom... Not by inhalation... But that's just a nerd-picking issue...
 
2011-12-20 01:14:15 PM

toraque: Torchsong: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

Crap. Someone already thought of that idea? I thought my screenplay was one of a kind! DAMMIT!!!

Don't worry, I'm a Hollywood creative genius. I can save your script.

First off, change the widowed zookeeper to a Nepalese Sherpa, ditch the boating accident for a tragic beekeeping accident backstory and add in some explosions. Lots of explosions. We make the long-lost son a time-travelling cyborg, who's come back in time for sex. Then he blows up in the third act, saving the prostitute from a bunch of German terrorists and bam! Roll credits. It's in the bag, baby, I'll have my people call your people.


Hey...you been peeking at my story idea document?
 
2011-12-20 01:14:20 PM
As an aside, some of the other linked videos (Red Tails and then Act of Valor) looked pretty damned good.

Oh, I understood Bane well enough too. No problems here.
 
2011-12-20 01:14:52 PM

Gig103: It isn't any worse than gravel-voice Batman.


For what it's worth, that voice is not just Christian Bale trying to sound dark. It's a sound effect from the mic and speakers in Batman's suit (part of the back story that was never explained in the films.)


http://www.aftertek.com/batman-begins-batsuit.html
"The design of Batman's cowl is a balance of form and function. The microphones in the ears are combined with special earpieces in the cowl that give Batman superior hearing in the field. The microphones can also be used to amplify Batman's voice and broadcast it through a discreet speaker in the suit. This is what gives Batman's voice that distinctive, disembodied and unearthly sound."
 
2011-12-20 01:14:53 PM

Skanque: Love this pic

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web.mit.edu
 
2011-12-20 01:16:10 PM
Does Anne Hathaway get naked it this movie? I'll listen to anything just to watch that.
 
2011-12-20 01:16:51 PM
And what the fack is deh shay bah sa rah.
This is why people don't like comic book movies a lot of the time. I don't want to have to have read years of a goddam story book to be able to escape from my fuxxored suburban cube dweller life for 2 hours.
 
2011-12-20 01:17:20 PM
I understood him in the trailer - couldn't quite get what he said in the prologue
 
2011-12-20 01:17:23 PM

Brainsick: scottydoesntknow: PizzaJedi81: Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."

The...guy who hunted down all of Batman and Bruce Wayne's friends and allies, and eventually broke Batman's back...ISN'T a bad guy?

He's bounced back and forth between good guy/bad guy. He's a bad guy at the beginning who becomes good, who is then tricked into becoming bad, then good again, and (IIRC) he's now back on the bad side (again).

He was 'good' in Secret Six...is he 'bad' again?


Apparently he was only 'good' for about half of Secret Six. When it was cancelled (June 2011, this is from Wiki FYI) Bane and the others led an assault on Gotham City to take out Batman and the other heroes. A big battle ensues and they get stomped. The last shots are Bane getting into a police car (and he should be escaping).
 
2011-12-20 01:17:40 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?


Probably what Warner's wants, and really not a good idea; you can get away with looping dialog in very small amounts or if a character's back is turned, but looping an entire performance is going to be obvious -like watching a spaghetti western.
 
2011-12-20 01:17:46 PM
He was fine in the trailer, but the prologue was incomprehensible. I do hope it's cleaned up beyond what we heard in those first 6 minutes.
 
2011-12-20 01:17:46 PM
ADR is an editor's best friend.
 
2011-12-20 01:18:09 PM
BRILLIANT marketing stunt. Circulate articles that claim no one can understand one of the lead characters in a major hollywood blockbuster... then include a trailer in the articles.

farking BRILLIANT.

I didn't realize it until I was done watching the trailer thinking "I can understand Bane just fine..." They just got me. I watched the trailer because they tricked me into it (I didn't want to see any part of the movie until I came out).

Millions of people will see the trailer and get hyped up for the movie over this fake news. Awesome.
 
2011-12-20 01:19:10 PM

Smiths: Not trolling here but am I the only one who was bored by Dark Knight? Just went too long and could have easily have had an hour chopped off of it.

I enjoyed the first one more; Batman Begins was a great fresh start and all.

Something about The Dark Knight just annoyed me and bored me.


Yeah, I couldn't stand The Dark Knight. It took itself so seriously, but then it reduced everyone, including Batman, into complete imbeciles in order to make the Joker's plans actually work. I could see if the dude were planting tiny c-4 bombs in the shape of dolls or something, but he was planting tons of ginormous barrels that look like the toxic barrels from Doom in public places that have choked access points and are regularly checked, and that's only the beginning of it.
 
GBB
2011-12-20 01:19:35 PM
Link (new window)

/really?? no one else remember this?
 
2011-12-20 01:21:00 PM

Riley Havick: I watched the trailer yesterday, and I had no problem understanding what Bane said. It sounds great to me. Like a combination of Darth Vader and the Animated Series' Mr. Freeze. It's a good fit.

People are jumping all over this, yet no one complains whenever Benicio Del Toro speaks in any movie he's in? Come on.


In the trailer, he sounds like a British Darth Vader, as I said in another thread.

In the prologue, he sounds like Neil Armstrong on the Moon.
 
2011-12-20 01:21:39 PM
Heard him just fine in that clip. The audio from the bootlegged prologue was something different; of course it was not the best quality, but there was also too much peripheral noise in the plane. I'm sure if they tweaked some levels or somesuch it could work.

meh, can't wait to see it
 
2011-12-20 01:22:44 PM

GBB: Link (new window)

/really?? no one else remember this?


"ok not gonna help. the hitting"

heh
 
2011-12-20 01:22:57 PM
Dwight_Yeast: you can get away with looping dialog in very small amounts or if a character's back is turned

but he wears a mask
 
2011-12-20 01:23:20 PM

boyvoyeur: Does Anne Hathaway get naked it this movie? I'll listen to anything just to watch that.


You're welcome.
 
2011-12-20 01:23:31 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.


i386.photobucket.com

Ugh, you're the worst.
 
2011-12-20 01:24:04 PM

metametameta: Smiths: Not trolling here but am I the only one who was bored by Dark Knight? Just went too long and could have easily have had an hour chopped off of it.

I enjoyed the first one more; Batman Begins was a great fresh start and all.

Something about The Dark Knight just annoyed me and bored me.

Yeah, I couldn't stand The Dark Knight. It took itself so seriously, but then it reduced everyone, including Batman, into complete imbeciles in order to make the Joker's plans actually work. I could see if the dude were planting tiny c-4 bombs in the shape of dolls or something, but he was planting tons of ginormous barrels that look like the toxic barrels from Doom in public places that have choked access points and are regularly checked, and that's only the beginning of it.


I don't think it's unbelievable, especially when has a large gang and corrupt officials on his side.

In a movie, the villain snuck bombs onto boats and still was foiled.
In real life, a team of men obliterated the World Trade Center armed with only box cutters.

Which is more "face palm" inducing?
 
2011-12-20 01:24:08 PM

Apos: I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.


Nah. I heard him too.

/Sounded scary as hayell.
 
2011-12-20 01:24:45 PM

bittermang: I just thought he sounded like Optimus Prime.


He's the lovechild of Optimus and Ernst Blofeld.
 
2011-12-20 01:25:20 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: boyvoyeur: Does Anne Hathaway get naked it this movie? I'll listen to anything just to watch that.

You're welcome.


If I may...? (new window)
 
2011-12-20 01:26:18 PM

Pochas: Sarah Palin's Conscience: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily

Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.

He has to disguise his voice so people don't figure out that he's Bruce Wayne. Also it is more intimidating than talking like Adam West or Michael Keaton.


If someone picked me up off my feet, threw me against a wall, gave me an intense gonna kick your ass look like Batman's I'd be scared...until he opened his mouth and garbled like Bale. Then I'd laugh. I wouldn't be able not to. So intimidating? Meh. Hilarious...yes.
 
2011-12-20 01:27:16 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Mumbled dialogue is as big of a problem in Hollywood these days as lens flare, shaky-cam, reboots, and bad scripts.


Dwight_Yeast: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

Probably what Warner's wants, and really not a good idea; you can get away with looping dialog in very small amounts or if a character's back is turned, but looping an entire performance is going to be obvious -like watching a spaghetti western.


You're aware his mount is covered for the entire movie, right?
 
2011-12-20 01:27:37 PM
www.slantmagazine.com

Mmmmrgll mrgh phit frmsl!
 
2011-12-20 01:27:58 PM
...his mouth, too.
 
2011-12-20 01:28:23 PM
WHAT DON'T YOU FARKING UNDERSTAND?!?
 
2011-12-20 01:29:08 PM

dancindan84: WHAT DON'T YOU FARKING UNDERSTAND?!?


Calculus.
 
2011-12-20 01:29:12 PM

doubled99: I heard him fine as well. Heard of Bane before but didn't know about the "constantly inhaled drug" thing.
Farking stupid. Why doesn't everyone use it? Why not take his mask off and kick him in the nuts? Where does he get refills?



He's kind of an anti-Batman. He's as smart as Batman, but without the moral scruples. Getting close enough to take his mask off would be like getting close enough to try and take Batman's mask off... not a very wise idea.

Bane grew up in a prison (long story short, his dad was supposed to go to prison for something and fled, so they imprisoned his young child in his place - must be a great vacation destination), where he learned to be ruthless and how to kill a man at a young age. He was smart, so he educated himself as much as he could, then eventually was forced to participate in a medical experiment with a new drug.

The drug is called Venom and it's experimental. The drug killed all the previous test subjects (a good reason why there aren't a bunch of people running around on it). The user is granted a big boost in strength, sort of a quasi super soldier serum, but it is addictive. When the drug is withdrawn the positive effects go away as well, and sometimes the user even becomes weaker than before they started taking it.

In the comics, Bane is the only character to have actually handed Batman a legitimate, full-on defeat. He out thought him, then out fought him and broke Batman's back, leaving him to die. That's why Schumacher turning Bane into a growling, retarded, lackey of other villains was such a tragedy.

The Joker is a fearsome foe because he challenges Batman's ideology, forcing him into difficult moral quandries for fun. Bane, on the other hand, is a fearsome foe because he challenges Batman's ability. Bane is both Batman's physical AND intellectual equal.
 
2011-12-20 01:29:34 PM
When Gothfram is afishes, you mave my mish to die!
 
2011-12-20 01:31:39 PM
Oh, so now this series provides even more characters' voices to make fun of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXDQrnoqSXo
 
2011-12-20 01:32:00 PM

Scurvy Dog: gunga galunga: Maybe he was quoting Helen Keller.

You understood that? Was it something about spending two years in an attic? Maybe it was "Attica", and that's why he's after Batman.


Yes to the all of the above. Although I still can't figure out why the Manson family wrote her name all over the walls after murdering Chester Tate.
 
2011-12-20 01:32:59 PM
 
2011-12-20 01:34:18 PM

FSUpaintball: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXDQrnoqSXo


1:09 Mitch McConnell
 
2011-12-20 01:36:08 PM

PizzaJedi81: dancindan84: WHAT DON'T YOU FARKING UNDERSTAND?!?

Calculus.


How does velcro work?
 
2011-12-20 01:36:42 PM

unchellmatt: PizzaJedi81: dancindan84: WHAT DON'T YOU FARKING UNDERSTAND?!?

Calculus.

How does velcro work?


OH GOOD, FOR YOU!
 
2011-12-20 01:37:24 PM
Speakers in theater > speakers on your laptop/phone/pad
Everybody relax.
 
2011-12-20 01:37:25 PM
Forget Bane, I'm wondering why they have Welsh kid singing the American national anthem
 
2011-12-20 01:37:37 PM

dancindan84: unchellmatt: PizzaJedi81: dancindan84: WHAT DON'T YOU FARKING UNDERSTAND?!?

Calculus.

How does velcro work?

OH GOOD, FOR YOU!


It's F@CKING DISTRACT-TIIING!
 
2011-12-20 01:39:25 PM
Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

cinemasights.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-12-20 01:40:13 PM

capitulating fromage masticating simian: Forget Bane, I'm wondering why they have Welsh kid singing the American national anthem


Aren't half the folks in those films played by actors from the UK?

Batman
Alfred
Falcone
Ra's al Ghul
The Scarecrow
Bane
 
2011-12-20 01:42:49 PM

Sarah Palin's Conscience: PizzaJedi81: Doubleodoug: "See, for those who didn't spend their youth indoors, Bane is a bad guy who..."

I think the author may be confused.

Seriously...I read all of my comics up in a tree.

I think he was pointing out that Bane isn't a "bad guy."


Bane IS a bad guy.

He only helps Batman in one story arc.

In another, he breaks his freakin back, essentially permanently taking Batman out of commission and forcing him to be replaced by a jerk.

Bane is a dick, and definitely a villain.
 
2011-12-20 01:43:12 PM

tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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Funny thing about that movie: Brad Pitt was making up random gibberish for a lot of the scenes. If you have captions on they actually give up at some points and just throw up a "??????????" The DVD has a setting for "Pikey Subtitles" and they give up a lot.
 
2011-12-20 01:43:31 PM
I recall having some trouble understanding Ken Watanabe in Inception at first, but by the end of the movie I was deaf anyway.
 
2011-12-20 01:44:30 PM

Mavent: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Mumbled dialogue is as big of a problem in Hollywood these days as lens flare, shaky-cam, reboots, and bad scripts.

Dwight_Yeast: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

Probably what Warner's wants, and really not a good idea; you can get away with looping dialog in very small amounts or if a character's back is turned, but looping an entire performance is going to be obvious -like watching a spaghetti western.

You're aware his mount is covered for the entire movie, right?


farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2011-12-20 01:45:22 PM
Still sounds better than Christian Bale.
 
2011-12-20 01:46:50 PM
We understood him just fine. What's the problem?

i3.squidoocdn.com
 
2011-12-20 01:47:05 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Mumbled dialogue is as big of a problem in Hollywood these days as lens flare, shaky-cam, reboots, and bad scripts.


Inaudible dialogue coupled with overly loud sound effects and music is my biggest pet peeve about modern movies. Since around the mid-90s (it seems) they've pumped up the background sound so much it overrides dialogue. I hate it when I have to turn up a movie to understand conversation and then find myself scrambling for the remote as soon as something blows up or a song starts.

/get off my lawn
 
2011-12-20 01:47:13 PM

Gig103: It isn't any worse than gravel-voice Batman.


I'M NOT WEARIN HOCKEY PANTS
 
2011-12-20 01:47:46 PM
if you havent seen 'Bronson', i recommend giving it a shot. Tom Hardy plays the most well-known prisoner in England who later decides he wants to be known as Charles Bronson. Since most of the movie is him in prison, it's not a bad glimpse at what Bane in prison might look like. The movie has a strange 'A Clockwork Orange' feel to it too.

/warning
//Tom Hardy's uncircumcized
 
2011-12-20 01:48:17 PM

Detinwolf: Gig103: It isn't any worse than gravel-voice Batman.

I'M NOT WEARIN HOCKEY PANTS


Pads.
 
2011-12-20 01:48:33 PM

scottydoesntknow: tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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Funny thing about that movie: Brad Pitt was making up random gibberish for a lot of the scenes. If you have captions on they actually give up at some points and just throw up a "??????????" The DVD has a setting for "Pikey Subtitles" and they give up a lot.


God, I love that movie. Gonna have to watch it again soon. As I recall, wasn't Christmas a plot point, or am I thinking of something else?
 
2011-12-20 01:49:52 PM

ultraholland: Dwight_Yeast: you can get away with looping dialog in very small amounts or if a character's back is turned

but he wears a mask


Haven't had coffee yet. Good point.
 
2011-12-20 01:50:06 PM

PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.



Actually, that sounds more interesting than any Batman geek-fest.
 
2011-12-20 01:50:18 PM
images.buddytv.com
 
2011-12-20 01:50:44 PM

Wayne 985: capitulating fromage masticating simian: Forget Bane, I'm wondering why they have Welsh kid singing the American national anthem

Aren't half the folks in those films played by actors from the UK?

Batman
Alfred
Falcone
Ra's al Ghul
The Scarecrow
Bane


Yeah, but it's really noticeable with the kid.
Also, you should've left Alfred of the list, he's supposed to be British after all, and the actors that played Ra's al Ghul and the Scarecrow are Irish (I think both from the Republic, not NI, not entirely sure, should probably look up wikipedia)
 
2011-12-20 01:50:49 PM

AllUpInYa: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.


Actually, that sounds more interesting than any Batman geek-fest.


I forgot to mention: 15 minutes of dialogue...200 minutes of movie.
 
2011-12-20 01:51:17 PM

The Flexecutioner: //Tom Hardy's uncircumcized


See, for me, that's a selling point for the film.

/Tom Hardy is one sexy beast.
 
2011-12-20 01:52:10 PM
You nerds need to be happy with what you get just once in your miserable comic book guy worst. Life. Ever. Not everything is a competition to show how much more sophisticated and intelligent you are but being 'above' the things other people like.

They made a bloody movie about a guy who dresses up as a bat and beats the crap out of equally unlikely characters and yet some people like to point out that the characters aren't well developed? If they were well developed they wouldn't be dressing up in costumes and fighting in the first place because NOBODY DOES THAT.

Christ just take it and buy tickets before they make a Hangover part 3!
 
2011-12-20 01:52:12 PM
Saw this trailer in an OmniMax theatre. You could no understand a single word he said, not 1. It was awful.
 
2011-12-20 01:52:59 PM
you want a hour chopped off the movie? pick up your remote and go to chapter select and chop it off then. Enjoy your castrated cinema
 
2011-12-20 01:53:12 PM

AllUpInYa: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.


Actually, that sounds more interesting than any Batman geek-fest.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-12-20 01:54:55 PM

Dwight_Yeast: The Flexecutioner: //Tom Hardy's uncircumcized

See, for me, that's a selling point for the film.

/Tom Hardy is one sexy beast.


well, in Bronson, you get like 10+ minutes of his wang. Not even joking.
 
2011-12-20 01:55:31 PM
My personal favorite -

"I'M NOT WEARIN HOCHHCKCKKEY PANNNNZTZZSZSZ!"
 
2011-12-20 01:56:02 PM
pro tip: stop stuff your face with pop corn and chew with your mouth close. you'll hear him just fine.
 
2011-12-20 01:57:20 PM

Jodeo: We understood him just fine. What's the problem?


When I was a kid, I thought that I would understand the adults when I became an adult.
 
2011-12-20 01:57:27 PM

I should be in the kitchen: Inaudible dialogue coupled with overly loud sound effects and music is my biggest pet peeve about modern movies. Since around the mid-90s (it seems) they've pumped up the background sound so much it overrides dialogue. I hate it when I have to turn up a movie to understand conversation and then find myself scrambling for the remote as soon as something blows up or a song starts.


This. It's quite annoying. I have a decent home theater (not great but not bad) and I live in an apartment. If I want to watch a movie I had damn well better start it before 9:00 PM otherwise I'm going to feel like a douche before the end or be using my remote the whole time to alter the volume.
 
2011-12-20 01:59:19 PM
Honestly the trailer was ho-hum to me and Bane looks horrible.
 
2011-12-20 01:59:25 PM

tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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Really? Pitt's incoherent chatter is part of the charm.
 
2011-12-20 02:01:11 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Apos: I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.

Nah. I heard him too.

/Sounded scary as hayell.


Or simply in desperate need of a powerful lozenge.
 
2011-12-20 02:02:18 PM

Egoy3k: You nerds need to be happy with what you get just once in your miserable comic book guy worst. Life. Ever. Not everything is a competition to show how much more sophisticated and intelligent you are but being 'above' the things other people like.

They made a bloody movie about a guy who dresses up as a bat and beats the crap out of equally unlikely characters and yet some people like to point out that the characters aren't well developed? If they were well developed they wouldn't be dressing up in costumes and fighting in the first place because NOBODY DOES THAT.

Christ just take it and buy tickets before they make a Hangover part 3!


Why don't they make movies like 'Tom goes shopping' or 'Sally drives to work'? I would totally pay $15 to see a totally believable movie about totally real stuff.
 
2011-12-20 02:03:19 PM

Apos: tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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Really? Pitt's incoherent chatter is part of the charm.


Dude, replace the batteries in your sarcasm detector.
 
2011-12-20 02:07:32 PM

MasterYong: BRILLIANT marketing stunt. Circulate articles that claim no one can understand one of the lead characters in a major hollywood blockbuster... then include a trailer in the articles.

farking BRILLIANT.

I didn't realize it until I was done watching the trailer thinking "I can understand Bane just fine..." They just got me. I watched the trailer because they tricked me into it (I didn't want to see any part of the movie until I came out)


That is an odd stipulation, but as a Batman fanboy I understand coming out to your parents before the third installment. We are all here for you!
 
2011-12-20 02:07:54 PM

Apos: tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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Really? Pitt's incoherent chatter is part of the charm.


Exactly, it's a joke within the movie. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a big difference between a menacing villain and comedic relief.

Nolantards are strong in this thread.
 
2011-12-20 02:09:22 PM
I understood perfectly. However, I also understood perfectly well that something 'bad' was going to happen at the stadium. They didn't need to show me the payoff on my tiny little computer screen. I would have been quite happy seeing it in the theatre. Thanks for nothing, previews. Why not just show me the fifth act as well.
 
2011-12-20 02:09:53 PM

Watson 749: Speakers in theater > speakers on your laptop/phone/pad
Everybody relax.


This could certainly be part of it. I was listening through my studio monitors so that could be part of why I understood him just fine.
 
2011-12-20 02:11:13 PM
t1.gstatic.com

Approves
 
2011-12-20 02:11:20 PM

PizzaJedi81: Apos: tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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Really? Pitt's incoherent chatter is part of the charm.

Dude, replace the batteries in your sarcasm detector.


I realize that now,but the reminder is appreciated.
 
2011-12-20 02:11:24 PM

hitlersbrain: Egoy3k: You nerds need to be happy with what you get just once in your miserable comic book guy worst. Life. Ever. Not everything is a competition to show how much more sophisticated and intelligent you are but being 'above' the things other people like.

They made a bloody movie about a guy who dresses up as a bat and beats the crap out of equally unlikely characters and yet some people like to point out that the characters aren't well developed? If they were well developed they wouldn't be dressing up in costumes and fighting in the first place because NOBODY DOES THAT.

Christ just take it and buy tickets before they make a Hangover part 3!

Why don't they make movies like 'Tom goes shopping' or 'Sally drives to work'? I would totally pay $15 to see a totally believable movie about totally real stuff.


So, you'll see a movie based on a totally unbelievable premise, and then, complain about how unreal the movie is???
 
2011-12-20 02:12:34 PM
Your student loans have been repaid?

img246.imageshack.us
 
2011-12-20 02:14:44 PM

scottydoesntknow: tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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Funny thing about that movie: Brad Pitt was making up random gibberish for a lot of the scenes. If you have captions on they actually give up at some points and just throw up a "??????????" The DVD has a setting for "Pikey Subtitles" and they give up a lot.


I saw it last month for the third or fourth time... I was pretty surprised how much I understood.
 
2011-12-20 02:18:54 PM

Quotizmo: I understood perfectly. However, I also understood perfectly well that something 'bad' was going to happen at the stadium. They didn't need to show me the payoff on my tiny little computer screen. I would have been quite happy seeing it in the theatre. Thanks for nothing, previews. Why not just show me the fifth act as well.


The irony of this is that they're only showing the prologue in super special IMAX theaters in an effort to make sure people only see it in its proper environment... with the downside being that this means that many fans' first exposure to the prologue is either through shakycam bootlegs or a pure text transcription. It's all of the spoilage, none of the "wow."
 
2011-12-20 02:19:55 PM

Egoy3k: You nerds need to be happy with what you get just once in your miserable comic book guy worst. Life. Ever. Not everything is a competition to show how much more sophisticated and intelligent you are but being 'above' the things other people like.

They made a bloody movie about a guy who dresses up as a bat and beats the crap out of equally unlikely characters and yet some people like to point out that the characters aren't well developed? If they were well developed they wouldn't be dressing up in costumes and fighting in the first place because NOBODY DOES THAT.

Christ just take it and buy tickets before they make a Hangover part 3!



I'll be the first to admit, when I heard Heath Ledger was going to play Joker I thought the movie was going to suck, and Joker would be fail. I was wrong, oh so very very wrong. So as I was walking out of the theater with some fellow nerd friends of mine we all agreed that no matter who he cast for the third movie, and no matter how stupid any trailers or anything looked, we would give Nolan the benefit of the doubt this time and trust his judgment.

I have no problems with anything I've seen so far anyway, so I'm confident that it's going to be a great movie. The Nolan brothers really know what they are doing. Few people are actually complaining, and that's par for the course on the internet where no matter how awesome something is SOMEONE is going to be a little biatch about it.

Oh, and as for Hangover 3? Too late.
 
2011-12-20 02:21:40 PM
media.comicvine.com

Approves!
 
2011-12-20 02:23:05 PM
Understood him fine on my PC.

On the laptop, it was hard to make out the first bit of what he said.

Solution to "can't understand him" problem: Get better speakers. Clean shiat out of ears.

/though I understand the concern
//it's not exactly crystal clear
///booming theater sound might make it worse, not better...
 
2011-12-20 02:24:39 PM

metametameta: Smiths: Not trolling here but am I the only one who was bored by Dark Knight? Just went too long and could have easily have had an hour chopped off of it.

I enjoyed the first one more; Batman Begins was a great fresh start and all.

Something about The Dark Knight just annoyed me and bored me.

Yeah, I couldn't stand The Dark Knight. It took itself so seriously, but then it reduced everyone, including Batman, into complete imbeciles in order to make the Joker's plans actually work. I could see if the dude were planting tiny c-4 bombs in the shape of dolls or something, but he was planting tons of ginormous barrels that look like the toxic barrels from Doom in public places that have choked access points and are regularly checked, and that's only the beginning of it.


it's not really the "unbelievability" of it that gets me. It's just so long with extra crap that should have been on the cutting room floor.

the entire china sequence, which seemed to only have the purpose of introducing the "cell phone = cameras everywhere" concept... and other sequences that just added 10 minutes here, 5 minutes there, totally an extra hour.

It's not an attention span thing; it just felt like the editor took a day off
 
2011-12-20 02:25:44 PM

tarkus1980: Is everybody deaf?


WHAT?
 
2011-12-20 02:28:16 PM

wickedsillyness: Watson 749: Speakers in theater > speakers on your laptop/phone/pad
Everybody relax.

This could certainly be part of it. I was listening through my studio monitors so that could be part of why I understood him just fine.



I was listening through one cheap headphone, with the other one dangling so I can keep the other ear open on what's going on in my office, while watching it on my laptop. Some people just desperately need to complain because day to day life for modern man is pretty cushy, and the real problems in our lives we're often powerless to solve.


AllUpInYa: So, you'll see a movie based on a totally unbelievable premise, and then, complain about how unreal the movie is???



I'm pretty sure that's not what he was saying. He was saying to stop being too hypercritical and just enjoy it for what it is - which I think most people are doing.
 
2011-12-20 02:28:25 PM
Man, do I ever love the cocky internet film buff contingent.
 
2011-12-20 02:30:39 PM

Uncle Pooky: Man, do I ever love the cocky internet film buff contingent.


Really? I find that they generally insist upon themselves.
 
2011-12-20 02:32:51 PM

mongbiohazard: I'll be the first to admit, when I heard Heath Ledger was going to play Joker I thought the movie was going to suck, and Joker would be fail. I was wrong, oh so very very wrong. So as I was walking out of the theater with some fellow nerd friends of mine we all agreed that no matter who he cast for the third movie, and no matter how stupid any trailers or anything looked, we would give Nolan the benefit of the doubt this time and trust his judgment.


I enjoyed it as well. My issue is that internet 'nerds' really should be happy that mainstream culture even throws them a sop every so often let alone a well produced big budget movie. It's like all the pissing and moaning over the Star Trek reboot. You got another movie with Kirk and Spock in it, quite biatching and maybe you'll get another one.

Oh, and as for Hangover 3? Too late.

Damn it!
 
2011-12-20 02:33:05 PM
I actually couldn't understand him that well. But I didn't have the sound very loud either. I imagine you could make it out better if you've got your speakers turned up and were really trying to hear something. I could hear the woman and the music just fine so, no, I'm not going to turn the sound up to hear just one guy.
 
2011-12-20 02:34:00 PM
This movie looks subpar. All 2 minutes I've seen look meh and bad. The camera angles are too sharp and below my standards.

/your band sucks!11!
 
2011-12-20 02:36:32 PM
i thought wiggles was gonna be the new villain.


Link (new window)

/ new window by the way.
 
2011-12-20 02:38:35 PM

mongbiohazard: wickedsillyness: Watson 749: Speakers in theater > speakers on your laptop/phone/pad
Everybody relax.

This could certainly be part of it. I was listening through my studio monitors so that could be part of why I understood him just fine.


I was listening through one cheap headphone, with the other one dangling so I can keep the other ear open on what's going on in my office, while watching it on my laptop. Some people just desperately need to complain because day to day life for modern man is pretty cushy, and the real problems in our lives we're often powerless to solve.


Well, it's official then. Bane is perfectly understandable, and anyone complaining is just a little nancy.
 
2011-12-20 02:38:56 PM

Sarcastica75: The camera angles are too sharp and below my standards.


Hello Studman69. It has been a while since you've been out of the basement, hasn't it?
 
2011-12-20 02:40:50 PM

Dinjiin: Sarcastica75: The camera angles are too sharp and below my standards.

Hello Studman69. It has been a while since you've been out of the basement, hasn't it?


I mean for real. Christopher Nolan. What's HE done.
Pfft.
 
2011-12-20 02:44:50 PM
We can understand him just fine.

mimg.ugo.com
 
2011-12-20 02:48:51 PM
1. GROWL!
2. mmfhmgogh... fhhbrmnelgrr
3. GROWL!
4. ???????????????
5. $600 million and a Best Picture nod
 
2011-12-20 02:50:33 PM

imontheinternet: 1. GROWL!
2. mmfhmgogh... fhhbrmnelgrr
3. GROWL!
4. ???????????????
5. $600 million and a Best Picture nod


A comic book movie getting a Best Picture nod? Pfft. The only thing more pretentious than the Fark Anti-Fun Brigade is the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
 
2011-12-20 02:54:01 PM
Can't read his lips. Had to listen to him several times to understand.
A long time ago, I worked in a comic shop. Some of our most devoted customers were from Gallaudet University. I hope they can enjoy this.
 
2011-12-20 02:55:37 PM

Rhypskallion: Can't read his lips. Had to listen to him several times to understand.


By jove, I've got it! It's a conspiracy to make you go multiple times, just to understand Bane!
 
2011-12-20 02:56:33 PM
WHERE ARE THEY?
 
2011-12-20 02:57:53 PM

Sarcastica75: below my standards


Y0u have standards?
 
2011-12-20 02:58:49 PM
lh5.ggpht.com
 
2011-12-20 02:59:36 PM
Saw the trailer in theaters, had no idea what bane was saying.
 
2011-12-20 03:00:11 PM

fark the casbah: tarkus1980: Is everybody deaf?

WHAT?


HE ASKED IF EVERYONE IS DEAF!
 
2011-12-20 03:00:32 PM

Burr: Sarcastica75: below my standards

Y0u have standards?


And I mean, Pittsburgh? And Ward? Who IS Ward anyway. Bane looks awful. He doesn't even look that big. And that mask. What is he, Darth Vader? Pfft. I enjoy sh(tting on everything others like while wearing my glasses and sitting on my superiority stool.
 
2011-12-20 03:01:35 PM
The movie is scheduled to premier in summer 2012. I have no doubt that whatever sound problems there are that they'll have it sorted out by then.
 
2011-12-20 03:05:33 PM
a man who dresses like a bat, ffs. it's not even obscure.

/*adjusts scarf*
 
2011-12-20 03:09:45 PM

Egoy3k: I enjoyed it as well. My issue is that internet 'nerds' really should be happy that mainstream culture even throws them a sop every so often let alone a well produced big budget movie. It's like all the pissing and moaning over the Star Trek reboot. You got another movie with Kirk and Spock in it, quite biatching and maybe you'll get another one.



I know what you're getting at, the folks who are overly critical and make mountains out of molehills when we should all be glad that Hollywood finally discovered that as a demographic we nerds have money too. I totally agree.

That said, that doesn't mean we shouldn't criticize when it's appropriate. To use your example, I liked the Star Trek reboot a lot. I found it a lot of fun, and a respectful reintroduction of those beloved characters...... but the plot had holes in it the size of a solar system. If you're realistic about it, it's understandable because they were essentially doing an origin story and had a lot of ground to cover - and they got the important stuff right.

But that doesn't mean an equally sloppy plot for the sequel should be acceptable and that we should just be happy Hollywood threw us a bone and STFU and eat it even if it tastes like stank. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Also, it would be nice if he could dial back the lens flare just a skoach. ;)


wickedsillyness: mongbiohazard: wickedsillyness: Watson 749: Speakers in theater > speakers on your laptop/phone/pad
Everybody relax.

This could certainly be part of it. I was listening through my studio monitors so that could be part of why I understood him just fine.


I was listening through one cheap headphone, with the other one dangling so I can keep the other ear open on what's going on in my office, while watching it on my laptop. Some people just desperately need to complain because day to day life for modern man is pretty cushy, and the real problems in our lives we're often powerless to solve.

Well, it's official then. Bane is perfectly understandable, and anyone complaining is just a little nancy.



Also communist. Possibly homosexual. Must remember to investigate further.
 
2011-12-20 03:10:12 PM

Sarcastica75: a man who dresses like a bat, ffs. it's not even obscure.

/*adjusts scarf*


Yeah, I kinda figured you wouldn't like this movie, you never really talk about it, and if you do its usually something negative.
 
2011-12-20 03:11:49 PM

Apos: I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.


Saw the trailer this weekend in a theater and it's even clearer there.
 
2011-12-20 03:12:00 PM

Sarcastica75: a man who dresses like a bat, ffs. it's not even obscure.

/*adjusts scarf*


Der Fliedermaus should sue!

As should Zorro!

And the Lone Ranger!

But Tonto can keep his stupid trap shut. "Kimosabe," my ass.
 
2011-12-20 03:16:00 PM

Burr: Sarcastica75: a man who dresses like a bat, ffs. it's not even obscure.

/*adjusts scarf*

Yeah, I kinda figured you wouldn't like this movie, you never really talk about it, and if you do its usually something negative.


:D

I am the ton percent.
The thing I don't get about people like cameron popping up in these threads to claim it looks "meh" or "sh*tty" or plain bad is that they claim the movies are sh*tty. Even if comic book movies or these Batman movies are not your cup of tea, Nolan did right by the first two films. If that makes me a Nolantard, then herpa derp hork.

Haters, see rubber bat nipples, and go see Batman Begins again and tell me you Nolan did a sh*tty job. Still do? Well this here ton of nerd is still going to go see Rises, probably love it, and most certainly ejaculate copiously at the hotness that is Bane.
 
2011-12-20 03:16:40 PM

unchellmatt: PizzaJedi81: dancindan84: WHAT DON'T YOU FARKING UNDERSTAND?!?

Calculus.

How does velcro work?


How does a blind man know when to stop wiping ?
 
2011-12-20 03:17:18 PM

PizzaJedi81: Kimosabe


trololol
 
2011-12-20 03:26:30 PM
If they dropped the BSery Russian/Ukraine type accent he has and give him the South American accent he has in the comics it'd go a lot smoother. Then again, the problem with his accent could be the fact he's constantly inhaling pain medication through the mask, and that's bound to screw with anyone's speech. Too bad he can't be like he is in the comics: 8 feet tall and built like a monster truck. I miss the lucha libre mask too. At least the trailer and prologue made it look less dominatrix. It'll come together. Nolan is a perfectionist. At least he isn't saying: "riddle me this, riddle me that, whachya gonna do brother when I break the bat. Oohhhh yeeeeeeeeyuh, DIG IT"
 
2011-12-20 03:36:02 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.


Well, we're 200 comments in so we can probably go ahead and judge your attempt. Not great, I'm afraid. You went for the (extremely) easy score and came up well short. You're just going to have to step your game up and take a bigger risk next time if you really want the bites. Recycling old material only works for so long, you know?
 
2011-12-20 03:36:06 PM

ParagonComplex: "riddle me this, riddle me that, whachya gonna do brother when I break the bat. Oohhhh yeeeeeeeeyuh, DIG IT"


you magnificent bastige.

snap into a bat-man. ooooooo yeah.
 
2011-12-20 03:37:11 PM

tarkus1980: Is everybody deaf?


"'Is everybody dead?'"

Bonus Fark-Fu points for anyone who can tell me what that's a reference to.

/Nothing's obscure on Fark
 
2011-12-20 03:40:02 PM
I was able to understand about half of Bane's dialogue from my seat in the IMAX theater. Having the overall sound mix too high and not being able to see Tom Hardy's mouth both contributed to the problem.
 
2011-12-20 03:40:17 PM

bittermang: I just thought he sounded like Optimus Prime.


Only... eeeeevil. o.o
 
2011-12-20 03:42:35 PM

tlchwi02: if they're going to push 3D on every movie, even though it makes a significant portion of the population physically ill, then i don't see why this is such a big freaking deal


Obviously, the best solution for this is "don't go see 3D movies." But if your friends like 3D movies and you're considerate enough to hate forcing them to go see 2D movies just for you, a pair of 2D glasses for $8 is a brilliant solution to the problem. Essentially, both eyes just have the "left eye" lens in them... so with them on, you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended, regardless of whether or not the movie theater has decided to rape your visual cortex with their evil eye-lasers.
 
2011-12-20 03:44:00 PM

PizzaJedi81: Chthonic Echoes: PizzaJedi81: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

Hey, your little seen arthouse flick about the troubles of a divorce, bisexual prostitue and her nymphomaniac mother, drug adled father finding the long lost son she gave up for adoption, who lost a foot in a tragic boating accident, all while finding love with a widowed zookeeper with a bacon grease fetish comes out the same week, so maybe you go enjoy that while we enjoy our movie.

You're giving him way too much credit.

Really, I tried stopping that much, MUCH earlier, but it...it kinda got away from me.


If you had, I wouldn't have laughed so hard.
 
2011-12-20 03:44:30 PM
Anyone know if the football field imploding looks better in IMAX? Right now that's the only part that has me questioning the quality of the movie. It just looks really corny, almost like a straight to SyFy channel affair.

I still can't wait for the movie though.
 
2011-12-20 03:47:07 PM

raygundan: ...you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended...


...for $5 more than a plain old movie.
 
2011-12-20 03:49:39 PM

Smiths: Not trolling here but am I the only one who was bored by Dark Knight? Just went too long and could have easily have had an hour chopped off of it.

I enjoyed the first one more; Batman Begins was a great fresh start and all.

Something about The Dark Knight just annoyed me and bored me.


Yeah. When you're sitting through the ~TENSE ACTION SEQUENCES~ and wondering when the fark it's going to be done already, that definitely makes it bad. I don't know what went wrong with TDK, but it feels less FUN than Batman Begins. BB was a fun ride that was awesome and kickass. TDK just trudged along and pretended to be awesome and ~deep~, and the fanboys ate it up for some reason.
 
2011-12-20 03:51:38 PM

Arklop: It's called ADR and it's fairly common in the film industry though some actors refuse to do it because they aren't able to deliver their lines in a recording studio in the same way they can on set.


Maybe they should hire some people who can pretend they are on a set
 
2011-12-20 03:56:18 PM
The line in the trailer is what he sounds like when he's at his most understandable. The lines in the prologue are quite muffled. It phases in and out. It definitely needs to change a little, I just hope it doesn't have to change TOO much.

While he's hard to understand, he also sounds really, really cool.
 
2011-12-20 03:57:09 PM

asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...


Til Lindemann v The Bat Man.


This I would pay for the seeing. Of.
 
2011-12-20 03:58:26 PM

Captain Steroid: bittermang: I just thought he sounded like Optimus Prime.

Only... eeeeevil. o.o


So.... Nemesis Prime?
 
2011-12-20 04:00:01 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...

Til Lindemann v The Bat Man.


This I would pay for the seeing. Of.


I already saw it but Linderman was Batman and Moody was Bane.

drupal.cdm.dsub.net

/obscure?
//prolly not
 
2011-12-20 04:05:11 PM

Pochas: Sarah Palin's Conscience: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily

Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.

He has to disguise his voice so people don't figure out that he's Bruce Wayne. Also it is more intimidating than talking like Adam West or Michael Keaton.


Then why not do an accent instead, I bet he could do a credible Welsh...
 
2011-12-20 04:05:40 PM

Gordian Cipher: raygundan: ...you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended...

...for $5 more than a plain old movie.


Plus $8 for the glasses, yes. I'm not claiming this is some sort of earth-shattering optimal solution. It is, however, an easy fix for somebody in a specific situation, namely:

0. Gets headaches at 3D movies
1. Likes seeing movies with friends
2. Has friends who prefer 3D films
3. Doesn't want to force them to see 2D films
4. Doesn't want to tell them to piss off and find new friends
5. Has $8 plus $5 extra per film to spend, and doesn't mind spending it because of the above
 
2011-12-20 04:09:55 PM

AllUpInYa: hitlersbrain: Egoy3k: You nerds need to be happy with what you get just once in your miserable comic book guy worst. Life. Ever. Not everything is a competition to show how much more sophisticated and intelligent you are but being 'above' the things other people like.

They made a bloody movie about a guy who dresses up as a bat and beats the crap out of equally unlikely characters and yet some people like to point out that the characters aren't well developed? If they were well developed they wouldn't be dressing up in costumes and fighting in the first place because NOBODY DOES THAT.

Christ just take it and buy tickets before they make a Hangover part 3!

Why don't they make movies like 'Tom goes shopping' or 'Sally drives to work'? I would totally pay $15 to see a totally believable movie about totally real stuff.

So, you'll see a movie based on a totally unbelievable premise, and then, complain about how unreal the movie is???


Interesting characters always help. Poorly developed characters always hurt. Some big scary guy doing amazing things with a sword in a fantasy action movie could be cool. Some scrawny little girls killing scores of guys 2-3 times her size and flying for no good reason must suck.

It's not that hard. You can have a good sci-fi space flick with faster than light travel but not realizing that a small asteroid does not posses nearly enough gravity to affect a cup of coffee means you suck and so does your movie.

suspension of disbelief is not license to write crap.
 
2011-12-20 04:12:08 PM
Just caption his lines. It worked for the nightclub scene in "Trainspotting".
 
2011-12-20 04:13:13 PM
I think it's hard to tell from such a short clip where your attention isn't focused or attuned to the sound.
 
2011-12-20 04:13:25 PM
dl.dropbox.com
 
2011-12-20 04:13:44 PM

raygundan: Gordian Cipher: raygundan: ...you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended...

...for $5 more than a plain old movie.

Plus $8 for the glasses, yes. I'm not claiming this is some sort of earth-shattering optimal solution. It is, however, an easy fix for somebody in a specific situation, namely:

0. Gets headaches at 3D movies
1. Likes seeing movies with friends
2. Has friends who prefer 3D films
3. Doesn't want to force them to see 2D films
4. Doesn't want to tell them to piss off and find new friends
5. Has $8 plus $5 extra per film to spend, and doesn't mind spending it because of the above


Try convincing your friends to sit farther back. If your headaches are caused because the film is causing you to converge your eyes in ways that aren't comfortable for you, the 3D effect is sometimes a little easier to deal with if you're towards the back of the room. The further back you are, the less work your eyes have to do since those minor parralax shifts are smaller adjustments.

/Have worked on three 3D films
//not one of them was better for being in 3D
 
2011-12-20 04:17:27 PM
just watched a bootlegged vid of the prologue. He is really hard to understand, hopefully its just the nature of the video and it will sound clearer when actually sitting in the theatre. Im not worried, I thought casting Heath Ledger as the Joker was a mistake and we all know how that turned out...

/Hathaway in tight black anything is worth the price of admission
 
2011-12-20 04:17:57 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: I think it's hard to tell from such a short clip where your attention isn't focused or attuned to the sound.


I'm not a big fan of dialogue being hidden in the mix, but I didn't mind Bane that much in that one clip. I also think that context would probably help a ton when you're watching. That being said, and assuming this film's going to audience testing, if your focus group says, "We can't understand that character"... you really have to change it. It's one thing if you're making a movie that 14 people are going to see in an arthouse and 16 more will see on BluRay. It's another if it's a comic book movie that has a budget in the tens of millions (or hundreds) and is intended to appeal to the mass market. Whatever "artistic" concerns the director has (and not to take anything away, he's a very talented dude) you CAN make that character intelligible AND sound cool... and you have the money to do it.
 
2011-12-20 04:24:55 PM
I couldn't understand it at all.
 
2011-12-20 04:25:44 PM

raygundan: Obviously, the best solution for this is "don't go see 3D movies." But if your friends like 3D movies and you're considerate enough to hate forcing them to go see 2D movies just for you, a pair of 2D glasses for $8 is a brilliant solution to the problem. Essentially, both eyes just have the "left eye" lens in them... so with them on, you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended, regardless of whether or not the movie theater has decided to rape your visual cortex with their evil eye-lasers.


that is sweet. Could have used those when we got the imax tickets for harry potter and already had dinner reservations before we realized they were 3D only. i was the only one who gets really bothered by 3D so i sat through it, but for 8 bucks i totally would have grabbed those
 
2011-12-20 04:26:07 PM

The Flexecutioner: AngryJailhouseFistfark: asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...

Til Lindemann v The Bat Man.


This I would pay for the seeing. Of.

I already saw it but Linderman was Batman and Moody was Bane.

[drupal.cdm.dsub.net image 377x251]

/obscure?
//prolly not

My Bodyguard

, Starring Tom Jayne?
 
2011-12-20 04:27:42 PM
In recent days I have watched all the "Avengers" movies up to now, I have had to repeatedly turn it up for dialogue, and back down for boom-boom. Especially with Hulk, which I I watched last week. There is some kind of AGC that ain't happenin when they master these soundtracks these days.

/what?
 
2011-12-20 04:31:11 PM
Why is Bane shorter than batman?
 
2011-12-20 04:32:30 PM

tlchwi02: if they're going to push 3D on every movie, even though it makes a significant portion of the population physically ill, then i don't see why this is such a big freaking deal


Meh. Fark 'em. They can watch it in non 3D at home in their vomitorium.
 
2011-12-20 04:32:31 PM
I'll give them that Bane is a little scratchy, but I also think redubbing his lines would not be a Herculean task. Frankly, I'm already picturing the inevitable mashup videos where his audio is replaced by Darth Vader or Gilbert Godfrey or something...

What I would like to hear more clearly is the "Rise" chant... I'm just curious to know more precisely what they're saying.
 
2011-12-20 04:32:56 PM
Sounds like Sean Connery with a head cold, but I could make out the words well enough
 
2011-12-20 04:35:39 PM

Arklop: ArcadianRefugee: Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

It's called ADR and it's fairly common in the film industry though some actors refuse to do it because they aren't able to deliver their lines in a recording studio in the same way they can on set. Some even have clauses in their contracts that they won't do it.


/Automatic Dialog Replacement
//nothing automatic about it


It's actually automated dialog replacement, though I think originally it was the even more sensible additional dialog recording.

And this film needs it badly. I said yesterday that this would be the biggest complaint about the movie, and Nolan is less genius and more complete schmuck if he thinks that having the villain be incomprehensible to many movie-goers is a statement of artistic integrity. It's one thing to stand your ground when asked to replace dialog for content, another entirely when asked to replace it for comprehension. I somehow doubt having Bane's motivation made unintelligible by his garbled speech is going to make it a better, more engrossing movie.
 
2011-12-20 04:36:09 PM

23FPB23: In recent days I have watched all the "Avengers" movies up to now, I have had to repeatedly turn it up for dialogue, and back down for boom-boom. Especially with Hulk, which I I watched last week. There is some kind of AGC that ain't happenin when they master these soundtracks these days.

/what?


They probably never remixed from the theatrical version, just literally ushered the 5.1 (or 7.1 or whatever) tracks that they used in the theatrical to the BluRay. During the mix, they probably decreed that dialogue would beat at ____ dB level but that they'd leave some overhead for when they really wanted to blow the audience's hair back. At home, we usually listen to movies at a lower level, so we have to volume set so that the explosions don't knock our neighbours' family photos off their walls, but that means we can't hear the dialogue.

Most sound surround systems have a "night" or a "clear voice" mode that boosts the center channel relative to the R/L and the surrounds. If yours has one, this would be a good setting to turn on. Also, surround systems usually let you set individual speaker volumes, so you might want to go ahead and turn your center channel up and the dialogues will all be better.

If you don't have a home theatre... well... shiat, I wish you luck.
 
2011-12-20 04:40:03 PM
Is this some kind of mass troll? Bane sounds perfectly clear to me. Surely a slight British accent isn't bewildering you all? He sounds like Anthony Hopkins.
 
2011-12-20 04:41:33 PM

Wayne 985:

In the trailer, he sounds like a British Darth Vader, as I said in another thread.



Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."
 
2011-12-20 04:41:47 PM
Well, go on then, Nolan. Spaz it down a bit for the mouthbreathers, the hard-of-hearing and the hard-of-thinking.
 
2011-12-20 04:43:04 PM

tlchwi02: raygundan: Obviously, the best solution for this is "don't go see 3D movies." But if your friends like 3D movies and you're considerate enough to hate forcing them to go see 2D movies just for you, a pair of 2D glasses for $8 is a brilliant solution to the problem. Essentially, both eyes just have the "left eye" lens in them... so with them on, you get a plain old movie, just like nature intended, regardless of whether or not the movie theater has decided to rape your visual cortex with their evil eye-lasers.

that is sweet. Could have used those when we got the imax tickets for harry potter and already had dinner reservations before we realized they were 3D only. i was the only one who gets really bothered by 3D so i sat through it, but for 8 bucks i totally would have grabbed those


In a pinch, you can make your own from two pairs of regular 3D glasses and some duct tape. It's not rocket science, although it's worth remembering that the lenses have to stay oriented the same way-- so tape them back together so that the same edge is "up" on both lenses as it was before you engaged in petty vandalism to avoid a migraine.
 
2011-12-20 04:43:05 PM

Teen Wolf Blitzer: Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."


I'm not sure whether to laugh at the technicality or shake my head at you. Which should I do?
 
2011-12-20 04:43:18 PM
www.wonderlandblog.com

MMMMPH MRFERRFERRFFffFF!!
 
2011-12-20 04:45:43 PM

mongbiohazard: doubled99: I heard him fine as well. Heard of Bane before but didn't know about the "constantly inhaled drug" thing.
Farking stupid. Why doesn't everyone use it? Why not take his mask off and kick him in the nuts? Where does he get refills?


He's kind of an anti-Batman. He's as smart as Batman, but without the moral scruples. Getting close enough to take his mask off would be like getting close enough to try and take Batman's mask off... not a very wise idea.

Bane grew up in a prison (long story short, his dad was supposed to go to prison for something and fled, so they imprisoned his young child in his place - must be a great vacation destination), where he learned to be ruthless and how to kill a man at a young age. He was smart, so he educated himself as much as he could, then eventually was forced to participate in a medical experiment with a new drug.

The drug is called Venom and it's experimental. The drug killed all the previous test subjects (a good reason why there aren't a bunch of people running around on it). The user is granted a big boost in strength, sort of a quasi super soldier serum, but it is addictive. When the drug is withdrawn the positive effects go away as well, and sometimes the user even becomes weaker than before they started taking it.

In the comics, Bane is the only character to have actually handed Batman a legitimate, full-on defeat. He out thought him, then out fought him and broke Batman's back, leaving him to die. That's why Schumacher turning Bane into a growling, retarded, lackey of other villains was such a tragedy.

The Joker is a fearsome foe because he challenges Batman's ideology, forcing him into difficult moral quandries for fun. Bane, on the other hand, is a fearsome foe because he challenges Batman's ability. Bane is both Batman's physical AND intellectual equal.


Do we know for sure they're going to lobotomize Bane or is this just an assumption based on him not having any easily quantifiable displays of intellect in the trailers?

I'm right with you on preferring Batman to have a real equal and Bane being it, but showing smarts in a brief advert is really tough to do unless you want to rehash some tropes that are so over-used (like having him play chess, do long-form calculations on a whiteboard, or do chemistry, or recite obscure poetry). If he's planning a top-down take-down of Gotham's establishment then he should be pretty smart.

/Wish this would give rise to an Azrael spin-off like Knightfall did.
 
2011-12-20 04:47:29 PM
I forgot that I listened to the trailer without people around my yakking on their phones. Girlfriend just got home, on the phone with someone, so I ran it again. Yeah, they need to make him clearer.
 
2011-12-20 04:49:10 PM

Lord Summerisle: Is this some kind of mass troll? Bane sounds perfectly clear to me. Surely a slight British accent isn't bewildering you all? He sounds like Anthony Hopkins.


The theatrical trailer Bane sounds fine. However,in the prequel that is showing before MI4 Bane is unintelligible. BTW MI4 is an awesome film.
 
2011-12-20 04:51:30 PM

23FPB23: In recent days I have watched all the "Avengers" movies up to now, I have had to repeatedly turn it up for dialogue, and back down for boom-boom. Especially with Hulk, which I I watched last week. There is some kind of AGC that ain't happenin when they master these soundtracks these days.

/what?


For normal human beings watching movies at home, "wide dynamic range" is a bug, not a feature.
 
2011-12-20 04:54:46 PM

Mercutio74: Teen Wolf Blitzer: Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."

I'm not sure whether to laugh at the technicality or shake my head at you. Which should I do?


Laugh! The answer is always laugh
 
2011-12-20 05:00:48 PM
i39.tinypic.com

"Mmmphgh Abiryrt Mphdgjkdhd"
 
2011-12-20 05:05:09 PM

Mercutio74: Teen Wolf Blitzer: Hey, moron, Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, from Bristol, ENGLAND.... so Darth Vader is already a "British Darth Vader."

I'm not sure whether to laugh at the technicality or shake my head at you. Which should I do?


Both....

It's not like it took three people to play Vader or anything....

/no...only three....just like how many movies there are
 
2011-12-20 05:09:13 PM
So Bane is destroying Gotham...what does cat woman have to do with this? I will be angry if she gets the same treatment as Two Face in the last movie.

For the record, I could not understand Bane.

/deaf in one ear
 
2011-12-20 05:13:12 PM
static.rcgroups.net
 
2011-12-20 05:13:13 PM
bowlphilosophy.files.wordpress.com

A little Teutonic, perhaps. But no worse than Schwarzenegger.
 
2011-12-20 05:13:43 PM

kibbled: The theatrical trailer Bane sounds fine. However,in the prequel that is showing before MI4 Bane is unintelligible. BTW MI4 is an awesome film.


My iMax showing of MI:4 only had the normal trailer. >:(. But yes, that movie was quite surprisingly good.
 
2011-12-20 05:15:53 PM
"When Gotham wins the Ashes, you have my permission to die."

It's easy. He's talking about cricket.
 
2011-12-20 05:16:53 PM
Put me in the "Could not understand Bane" column.
 
2011-12-20 05:17:55 PM

batlock666: It's easy. He's talking about cricket.


If an old sofa appears in this film, I'm going to bust out laughing...
 
2011-12-20 05:19:10 PM
Personally, I'm GLAD his voice is muffled. I mean, the dude is wearing some sort of farking rebreathing apparatus. Wouldn't it be silly if he was wearing that and had a golden voice like uh... that one homeless guy?
 
2011-12-20 05:25:10 PM

batlock666: "When Gotham wins the Ashes, you have my permission to die."

It's easy. He's talking about cricket.


With rotten milk rashes, you have my permission to die.
 
2011-12-20 05:27:18 PM
Watched the bootlegged prologue, understood everyone else fine, made out about 50% of what he was saying, with about 70% confidence. Coming from someone who has a relatively good ear for accents, especially English accents, I'd say they'll need to make some adjustments. Judging by the old-time-prospector clip that originally leaked a few months back, they probably already have. This makes it doubly concerning.

Also, as far as the chant goes, it's subliminal messaging. They are clearly chanting "This is awesome, awesome" as a way to get you psyched for a movie that is otherwise shaping up to be shiatty, shiatty.
 
2011-12-20 05:31:51 PM

Teen Wolf Blitzer: Personally, I'm GLAD his voice is muffled. I mean, the dude is wearing some sort of farking rebreathing apparatus. Wouldn't it be silly if he was wearing that and had a golden voice like uh... that one homeless guy?


Agreed. I can see it now, though. They clear it up, then the nitpickers will come out in droves about how that wouldn't be possible with the mask. "Has Nolan ever worn a mask?!" They'll say. They leave it muffled then people will biatch that they couldn't understand anything Bane was saying and therefore the movie sucked. "ADR, how does that work?! This movie is terrible!" They'll say. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It'll make for asinine debate on the internet.
 
2011-12-20 05:33:51 PM

Lee's_Austin: Teen Wolf Blitzer: Personally, I'm GLAD his voice is muffled. I mean, the dude is wearing some sort of farking rebreathing apparatus. Wouldn't it be silly if he was wearing that and had a golden voice like uh... that one homeless guy?

Agreed. I can see it now, though. They clear it up, then the nitpickers will come out in droves about how that wouldn't be possible with the mask. "Has Nolan ever worn a mask?!" They'll say. They leave it muffled then people will biatch that they couldn't understand anything Bane was saying and therefore the movie sucked. "ADR, how does that work?! This movie is terrible!" They'll say. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It'll make for asinine debate on the internet.


Passing mention in the movie that microphone and speakers were added to the mask? Maybe? Ya think?
 
2011-12-20 05:37:07 PM
I understand that Nolan's Batman is all about realism, but I much prefer the Bane design from Arkham Asylum/City. Comic-iness aside, he was much more intimidating than what I've seen of Nolan's Bane.
www.crackingace.com
I'll still give Nolan the benefit of the doubt. I remember how stupid the first glimpses of the Batmobile seemed to me before seeing it in context.
/I enjoy his movies, but I don't think he'll ever top Memento.
//I understood Bane fine even in the shaky-cam footage of the prologue.
 
2011-12-20 05:40:56 PM
While they're fixing his vocals, maybe they can make him taller and put on a luchadore mask.
 
2011-12-20 05:41:59 PM

hitlersbrain: Lee's_Austin: Teen Wolf Blitzer: Personally, I'm GLAD his voice is muffled. I mean, the dude is wearing some sort of farking rebreathing apparatus. Wouldn't it be silly if he was wearing that and had a golden voice like uh... that one homeless guy?

Agreed. I can see it now, though. They clear it up, then the nitpickers will come out in droves about how that wouldn't be possible with the mask. "Has Nolan ever worn a mask?!" They'll say. They leave it muffled then people will biatch that they couldn't understand anything Bane was saying and therefore the movie sucked. "ADR, how does that work?! This movie is terrible!" They'll say. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It'll make for asinine debate on the internet.

Passing mention in the movie that microphone and speakers were added to the mask? Maybe? Ya think?


It won't matter.
 
2011-12-20 05:42:12 PM

tfm_copycat: Yeah, this movie was completely ruined by the unintelligible dialogue.......

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In other news, I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't yet turned into an Anne Hathaway/Catwoman picture thread.
 
2011-12-20 05:43:57 PM

hitlersbrain: Passing mention in the movie that microphone and speakers were added to the mask? Maybe? Ya think?


Meh... that sounds like one of those studio exec trying-to-please-everyone notes. Personally, I say make sure Bane's dialogue is reasonably intellible, but cool. When you're happy with it, as a film maker, take a stand behind it. If some stupid frame farker (the same guys who track what percentage of a cigarette is smoked during a dialogue scene) have a problem with it... who cares? In real life, C4 explosions don't look like gasoline explosions, bullets (even those fired from an assault rifle) don't literally knock people into the air, no one can catch a ledge by the fingertips as they fall and just hang for minutes, and Batman's personal grappling gun and winch couldn't possibly work as reliably and effectively as it does at that size. But you know what... it's fun to watch. It's a farking movie based on a comic book.

You can suspend your disbelief and enjoy it, or you can think you're the smartest guy in the room and explain why one aspect of the physics of the world is off (acoustics) but not care that the very drug that makes Bane who he is could not possibly exist in any near future scenario.
 
2011-12-20 05:44:36 PM

kenryoku_one: Pochas: Sarah Palin's Conscience: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ArcadianRefugee: Muffled, sure. Critical? Meh. Just have him do his lines again and dub it back in, no?

And get Kevin Conroy to come in and dub Christian Bale while they're at it too, please. I cannot stand Christian Bale's Batman voice.

/Bane was a little muffled, but a dub over really would solve that pretty easily

Lord, I thought that I was the only one.

I find it completely ridiculous. There's no reason to sound that way.

He has to disguise his voice so people don't figure out that he's Bruce Wayne. Also it is more intimidating than talking like Adam West or Michael Keaton.

Then why not do an accent instead, I bet he could do a credible Welsh...


I think a good Michael Caine impersonation would throw the criminals off their game
 
2011-12-20 05:46:15 PM

Lumbar Puncture: While they're fixing his vocals, maybe they can make him taller and put on a luchadore mask.


upload.wikimedia.org


Maybe boxing gloves, too?
 
2011-12-20 05:46:59 PM

trappedspirit: I think a good Michael Caine impersonation would throw the criminals off their game


If he did some of Caine's tough guy readings from Get Carter, that'd be cool... :D
 
2011-12-20 05:47:47 PM
Just say, "MY COCAINE" really loud.

That's how Michael Caine says his name.
 
2011-12-20 06:02:31 PM

DaShredda: Just say, "MY COCAINE" really loud.

That's how Michael Caine says his name.


My name is My Cocain.


/gott damn, it works!
 
2011-12-20 06:07:02 PM
He should just have Anna Paquin translate his dialogue. Like how she explained every freaking scene to the viewer in 'Inception'.
 
2011-12-20 06:07:52 PM

Mercutio74: hitlersbrain: Passing mention in the movie that microphone and speakers were added to the mask? Maybe? Ya think?

Meh... that sounds like one of those studio exec trying-to-please-everyone notes.


I don't know, if people have a hard time understanding the antagonist*INHALE*it could hurt a character driven plot*EXHALE*especially when they could just give a quick excuse*INHALE*to make him a little clearer without sacrificing artistic intent.
 
2011-12-20 06:12:18 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Mumbled dialogue is as big of a problem in Hollywood these days as lens flare, shaky-cam, reboots, and bad scripts.


I'm sorry, but that was total BS. The main article cites films like Pitch Black as containing mumbled dialog. Yeah, no. The author needs a better sound system or needs to go to a better theatre.
 
2011-12-20 06:16:08 PM

12monkeys: I understand that Nolan's Batman is all about realism, but I much prefer the Bane design from Arkham Asylum/City. Comic-iness aside, he was much more intimidating than what I've seen of Nolan's Bane.
[www.crackingace.com image 540x594]
I'll still give Nolan the benefit of the doubt. I remember how stupid the first glimpses of the Batmobile seemed to me before seeing it in context.
/I enjoy his movies, but I don't think he'll ever top Memento.
//I understood Bane fine even in the shaky-cam footage of the prologue.


Well to be fair, I don't think we've seen the movie Bane in full buffed out form.
 
2011-12-20 06:17:32 PM

AmazinTim: Watched the bootlegged prologue, understood everyone else fine, made out about 50% of what he was saying, with about 70% confidence. Coming from someone who has a relatively good ear for accents, especially English accents, I'd say they'll need to make some adjustments. Judging by the old-time-prospector clip that originally leaked a few months back, they probably already have. This makes it doubly concerning.

Also, as far as the chant goes, it's subliminal messaging. They are clearly chanting "This is awesome, awesome" as a way to get you psyched for a movie that is otherwise shaping up to be shiatty, shiatty.


I know Nolan got a few complaints after the initial screening of the prologue and claimed post-production audio clean up wasn't done yet.

12monkeys: I understand that Nolan's Batman is all about realism, but I much prefer the Bane design from Arkham Asylum/City. Comic-iness aside, he was much more intimidating than what I've seen of Nolan's Bane.
[www.crackingace.com image 540x594]
I'll still give Nolan the benefit of the doubt. I remember how stupid the first glimpses of the Batmobile seemed to me before seeing it in context.
/I enjoy his movies, but I don't think he'll ever top Memento.
//I understood Bane fine even in the shaky-cam footage of the prologue.


Nah. Cartoony stuff isn't intimidating. A real brute of a man who could beat my ass into the ground is more frightening.
 
2011-12-20 06:17:32 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Mercutio74: hitlersbrain: Passing mention in the movie that microphone and speakers were added to the mask? Maybe? Ya think?

Meh... that sounds like one of those studio exec trying-to-please-everyone notes.

I don't know, if people have a hard time understanding the antagonist*INHALE*it could hurt a character driven plot*EXHALE*especially when they could just give a quick excuse*INHALE*to make him a little clearer without sacrificing artistic intent.


Yeah, but I don't think a lame off camera ADR line explaining why the character is intelligible is a good solution. Just make him intelligible and fark the "fans" who say you shouldn't hear him at all because his mouth happens to be behind what's obviously some kind of breathing apparatus that none of us have any practical familiarity with in real life. Just make him sound cool. Cool always trumps realism in action/adventure films. Don't be a pussy and fall over yourself trying to convince fans that, really, it's in your best interest to understand the dialogue of the main bad guy. Just do it, anyone who enjoys the film with forgive you if they disagree... if not, fark 'em, I doubt Nolan's going to have any trouble sleeping at night.

I would say that a general rule of film making is it's never a bad idea to let the audience connect with your characters (even if that connection is fear or hatred). And apologizing for doing so with a sloppily inserted ADR line would be useless.
 
2011-12-20 06:19:44 PM

Wayne 985: I know Nolan got a few complaints after the initial screening of the prologue and claimed post-production audio clean up wasn't done yet.


That makes the most sense to me. It's rare you'd test a film with the full-on sound mix... but then again, this kind of movie does have the budget to afford to mix more than once especially if the changes wouldn't be major.
 
2011-12-20 06:27:03 PM

logruszed: Do we know for sure they're going to lobotomize Bane or is this just an assumption based on him not having any easily quantifiable displays of intellect in the trailers?



You must have misread my post a little. I wasn't talking about what's going to happen in this new movie, I was saying that the version of Bane that Joel Schumacher put in to Batman and Robin was a growling retard who served only as a lackey for other villains. I brought that up to show why nerds were so pissed about that character in B&R. The disparity between what he was supposed to be and what he turned out to be in that movie was massive.

So I'm really hoping that Bane is handled much better in this new film, and I have confidence in Nolan so I'm sure he will be. Considering how top-notch Nolan is, I'm confident that Bane will be much closer to the character he was in the comics.... which is a good thing.
 
2011-12-20 06:28:50 PM
More importantly, what's Bane going to look like after Batman gets a does of Scarecrow's fear toxin?
 
2011-12-20 06:35:47 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Mercutio74: hitlersbrain: Passing mention in the movie that microphone and speakers were added to the mask? Maybe? Ya think?

Meh... that sounds like one of those studio exec trying-to-please-everyone notes.

I don't know, if people have a hard time understanding the antagonist*INHALE*it could hurt a character driven plot*EXHALE*especially when they could just give a quick excuse*INHALE*to make him a little clearer without sacrificing artistic intent.



i26.photobucket.com

Totally ruined Empire Strikes Back.
 
2011-12-20 06:38:23 PM

mongbiohazard: Totally ruined Empire Strikes Back.


You should have seen how he ruined 3 movies when he was a child and in his teens.... he didn't even have asthma back then. He was just a bad actor that made ever set he was on seem somehow... not real.
 
2011-12-20 06:47:23 PM
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2011-12-20 06:47:42 PM

ThisNameSux: More importantly, what's Bane going to look like after Batman gets a does of Scarecrow's fear toxin?


i40.tinypic.com
 
2011-12-20 06:49:03 PM

steve_lou: ThisNameSux: More importantly, what's Bane going to look like after Batman gets a does of Scarecrow's fear toxin?

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I said fear toxin, not queer toxin.
 
2011-12-20 06:49:50 PM
I cuolndt raelly udnersatdn whta he siad, but muhc like this sentnence i got the gits of it.
 
2011-12-20 06:50:03 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: The Flexecutioner: AngryJailhouseFistfark: asmodeus224: All I see is Batman vs Rammstein...

Til Lindemann v The Bat Man.


This I would pay for the seeing. Of.

I already saw it but Linderman was Batman and Moody was Bane.

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/obscure?
//prolly not

My Bodyguard, Starring Tom Jayne?


close, but he's the Baldwin who isn't an actual brother of the Baldwins.

/most don't know him from Adam
//except for Firefly/Chuck fans
 
2011-12-20 06:57:10 PM

Lone Stranger: OCCUPY GOTHAM CITY!


That really does seem to be the plot. Batman vs OWS
 
2011-12-20 06:59:50 PM
Actually, the one line that I didn't catch, the first time through, was "The mayor's gonna dump him in the spring".
 
2011-12-20 07:05:12 PM
i6.photobucket.com

/will have to watch TKNR twice to make sure I understand Bane
// and watching a shiatty bootleg version of the prologue doesn't help
 
2011-12-20 07:22:31 PM

tlchwi02: if they're going to push 3D on every movie, even though it makes a significant portion of the population physically ill, then i don't see why this is such a big freaking deal


So watch the 2d version instead? You sound like a vegetarian being all offended that a restaurant still has steak on its menu or something.
 
2011-12-20 07:55:18 PM

DaShredda: Just say, "MY COCAINE" really loud.

That's how Michael Caine says his name.


Yes it is.
 
2011-12-20 07:56:00 PM

Apos: I heard him clearly. I guess I'm in the minority.


^^^
 
2011-12-20 08:09:15 PM
"When Gotham is ashes, then you have my permission to die." May have missed a couple small words there, but he's not that hard to understand at all.
 
2011-12-20 08:30:25 PM

mongbiohazard: Lumbar Puncture: Mercutio74: hitlersbrain: Passing mention in the movie that microphone and speakers were added to the mask? Maybe? Ya think?

Meh... that sounds like one of those studio exec trying-to-please-everyone notes.

I don't know, if people have a hard time understanding the antagonist*INHALE*it could hurt a character driven plot*EXHALE*especially when they could just give a quick excuse*INHALE*to make him a little clearer without sacrificing artistic intent.




Totally ruined Empire Strikes Back.


His voice was also very clear, and dubbed.
 
2011-12-20 08:32:24 PM

DamnCheapMonkey: "When Gotham is ashes, then you have my permission to die." May have missed a couple small words there, but he's not that hard to understand at all.


People seem to be missing the fact that they are speaking of the nine min preview and not the trailer.
 
2011-12-20 08:37:54 PM

Sarcastica75: ParagonComplex: "riddle me this, riddle me that, whachya gonna do brother when I break the bat. Oohhhh yeeeeeeeeyuh, DIG IT"

you magnificent bastige.

snap into a bat-man. ooooooo yeah.


Or he could go the Ultimate Warrior route and to his minions say: "AGGHHRRUUHH ARGGHHR From the TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINS in the VALLEY OF the Bat I shall reign DESTRUCITY to Gotham City and LOOSE GOOSETY to the bowels of The Bat." The ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLTUMUTT Bane
 
2011-12-20 08:50:39 PM
Sorry, six min prolouge.
 
2011-12-20 09:06:26 PM
i39.tinypic.com

Mmmphphphphgh Abiryrt Mphphphphphphdgjkdhd
 
2011-12-20 09:26:19 PM

ParagonComplex: Sarcastica75: ParagonComplex: "riddle me this, riddle me that, whachya gonna do brother when I break the bat. Oohhhh yeeeeeeeeyuh, DIG IT"

you magnificent bastige.

snap into a bat-man. ooooooo yeah.

Or he could go the Ultimate Warrior route and to his minions say: "AGGHHRRUUHH ARGGHHR From the TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINS in the VALLEY OF the Bat I shall reign DESTRUCITY to Gotham City and LOOSE GOOSETY to the bowels of The Bat." The ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLTUMUTT Bane


:D
 
2011-12-20 09:29:18 PM
I'm with Nolan here. People seem to be basing this on a bootleg prologue shot on a cameraphone and a trailer where the character says one line while trailer music plays over him. When we see the movie in the theaters, we'll be able to understand him just fine. His accent just sounds a bit like Dr. Killinger from the Venture Brothers is all.

At the end of the trailer, he says "ven Gotham ees in ashes, you vill have my permeeshon to die." What's so hard about that?
 
2011-12-20 09:35:24 PM
Easily the worst trailer for a 'major motion picture' I have ever seen.
 
2011-12-20 10:08:40 PM

boyvoyeur: Does Anne Hathaway get naked it this movie? I'll listen to anything just to watch that.


let me tell you, she gets naked in that Love and Other Drugs movie. I'm a woman and I'm straight and even I couldn't help thinking what a smokin' hot bod she had. In fact, I kinda hope she gets naked in this one too. It's a body that should be seen by all. She's definitely near the top of my "should I ever have a lesbian celebrity encounter..." list
 
2011-12-20 10:23:37 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty awesome batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.

 
2011-12-20 10:29:30 PM

John Buck 41: Easily the worst trailer for a 'major motion picture' I have ever seen.


The one for The Hobbit is even worse

Link (new window)
 
2011-12-20 10:34:17 PM

Skyred: cameroncrazy1984: So it's another shiatty awesome batman movie that tons of nerds will see. Wahoo.


No, cameroncrazy1984 had it right the first time.
 
2011-12-20 10:39:12 PM

ThisNameSux: John Buck 41: Easily the worst trailer for a 'major motion picture' I have ever seen.

The one for The Hobbit is even worse

Link (new window)


Is this sarcasm? That was amazing. I loved the atmosphere it created.
 
2011-12-20 10:45:00 PM

ThisNameSux: John Buck 41: Easily the worst trailer for a 'major motion picture' I have ever seen.

The one for The Hobbit is even worse

Link (new window)


you. are. awesome.

CSB time. i had just finished The Hobbit when 5th grade was starting and we still did some of those first day in class things where you say what you did that summer. I had memorized all of the dwarves names and I stood up and recited them and concluded that I had just finished The Hobbit. Yep, I got funny looks from the kids. I also got the 2nd worst year of bullying (only topped by 6th grade) I had ever had. It was the last time I told anyone at school I read books. it was also the first time i ever got a C in something and I did it on purpose so that i wouldnt be 'smart'.

/thanks a lot tolkein
 
2011-12-20 11:04:52 PM

Wayne 985: Is this sarcasm?


lol yes. I just needed a reason to post it.
 
2011-12-20 11:07:13 PM
The only one who was hard to understand was Michael Caine. That dude gets more unintelligible with each passing year.

Egoy3k: I enjoyed it as well. My issue is that internet 'nerds' really should be happy that mainstream culture even throws them a sop every so often let alone a well produced big budget movie. It's like all the pissing and moaning over the Star Trek reboot. You got another movie with Kirk and Spock in it, quite biatching and maybe you'll get another one.


At the risk of sounding like a Hipster douchebag, maybe we don't want the attention of Mainstream culture. Mainstream culture thinks Michael Bay and lens flares are cool and artistic. Some people like intelligent, well written science fiction that doesn't patronize the audience, not simplistic brain-dead explosion orgy. There was a time when things like plot and character development were actually important and not something that get shoehorned in between shiat getting blown up. Screw blockbusters, Scifi is better when it is below the radar as a low - medium budget independent film than some crappy action film that just happens to have spaceships.

As for the Star Trek reboot, Kirk and Spock are unimportant. The magic of Kirk and Spock was what was brought by Shatner and Nimoy. When they retired, they might just as well retired the characters as well. If it wasn't for the obvious name value from mainstream audiences they could have just as well make entirely new characters. While it probably wouldn't have brought in as much money, it probably would have not pissed off the established fanbase. Unfortunately, it is about the money and this movie was "not made for Star Trek fans." I feel the same way about the reboot of Battlestar Galactica. The problem with reboots are that if it is too similar, why do a reboot? If it is too different they you are lazily plagiarizing character names for what is ostensibly a new property.
 
2011-12-20 11:11:26 PM

dancindan84: WHAT DON'T YOU FARKING UNDERSTAND?!?


Biostratigraphy and Correlation.
 
2011-12-20 11:22:14 PM
i45.tinypic.com

yawn

i'll just leave that there

/it's gonna be a great year
 
2011-12-21 12:06:09 AM

doubled99: I heard him fine as well. Heard of Bane before but didn't know about the "constantly inhaled drug" thing.
Farking stupid. Why doesn't everyone use it?



From what I gather he's in chronic pain so part of the pain management device is implanted along the base of his spine. I think the Venom/medicine is probably part steroid, part pain killer and part stimulant.
 
2011-12-21 01:05:20 AM
Naughty Warners!
t3.gstatic.com
 
2011-12-21 02:06:04 AM
img689.imageshack.us

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2011-12-21 02:22:46 AM
/very late to this thread
//not reading all this so forgive me for beating this dead horse
///but are you really surprised?
//// Link (new window)
// I know, too many slashies mea culpa
 
2011-12-21 03:32:04 AM

Wayne 985: capitulating fromage masticating simian: Forget Bane, I'm wondering why they have Welsh kid singing the American national anthem

Aren't half the folks in those films played by actors from the UK?

Batman
Alfred
Falcone
Ra's al Ghul
The Scarecrow
Bane


Commissioner Gordon.

Pochas:
He has to disguise his voice so people don't figure out that he's Bruce Wayne. Also it is more intimidating than talking like Adam West or Michael Keaton.


Oh come on, imagine it. Bale's Batman drops from a roof onto you, smashes your head against the wall, breaks a bone to get your attention, then he leans over you and, with Adam West's voice, demands to know where the arms shipment is.

You would need more than a little therapy to get over something like that.
 
2011-12-21 10:29:49 AM
I heard Bane's line just fine, what I couldn't make out was what Christian Bale asked before the old bearded man replied with what sounded like "Rise" or "Riots".
 
2011-12-21 11:29:53 AM
stalebacon.com
 
2011-12-21 03:37:58 PM

Arklop: Gig103: It isn't any worse than gravel-voice Batman.

For what it's worth, that voice is not just Christian Bale trying to sound dark. It's a sound effect from the mic and speakers in Batman's suit (part of the back story that was never explained in the films.)


http://www.aftertek.com/batman-begins-batsuit.html
"The design of Batman's cowl is a balance of form and function. The microphones in the ears are combined with special earpieces in the cowl that give Batman superior hearing in the field. The microphones can also be used to amplify Batman's voice and broadcast it through a discreet speaker in the suit. This is what gives Batman's voice that distinctive, disembodied and unearthly sound."


whoever wrote that is clearly not a real batfan. in TDK - the joker crashes the cocktail party and bruce wayne runs for the secret hideout to change his underwear. as he dispatches henchmen along the way it is made clear that he has already mentally changed into costume. when he yells at whats-her-face he does it in the gravel voice even though he is wearing a tux.

/batfan...pfft
//hmhmhmm *snort*


also - bane:

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2011-12-21 10:10:45 PM
So can all you guys who understood him help those of us who didn't out? What the fark did he say?
 
2011-12-22 02:21:02 AM

Whiskey Priest: What the fark did he say?


Alfred (Over National Anthem) : "You are as precious to me, as you were to your own mother and father. I swore to them that I would protect you, and I haven't!"

Chris Cooper(?) : "The mayor is going to dump him [Gordon] in the spring."
Matthew Modine : "Really?"
Chris Cooper : "Mm Hm."
Matthew Modine :"But he's a hero.."
Chris Cooper : "He's a war hero, this is peacetime."

Selina Kyle : "You think this can last. There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches. Cause when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us."

Chant: Deh-shay! Deh-shay! Bah-sah-rah! Bah-sah-rah! (supposed to mean 'He Rises' in Morrocan)

Bruce Wayne : "What does that mean?"
Man : "Rise."

Bane: "When Gotham is... ashes, you have my permission to die."
 
2011-12-22 11:14:48 AM
steve_lou:

Bruce Wayne : "What does that mean?"
Man : "Rise."


Thank you very much!
 
2011-12-22 11:33:04 AM

Ezy Ryder: steve_lou:

Bruce Wayne : "What does that mean?"
Man : "Rise."


Thank you very much!


Betcha they were referring to Anne Hathaway...Iknow I rise when I see her, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2011-12-22 11:34:32 AM
The composer is actually doing a thing now where people can participate in the actual movie (was on Fark a week ago or so I think) by recording yourself doing the chanting
http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction (new window)

They mix everyone's voices and turn it into something evil sounding, like Björk's Medúlla covered by Slayer
 
2011-12-22 11:35:57 AM
^ disregard that 2nd 'actual'
fark.
 
2011-12-22 05:23:13 PM

steve_lou: Whiskey Priest: What the fark did he say?

Alfred (Over National Anthem) : "You are as precious to me, as you were to your own mother and father. I swore to them that I would protect you, and I haven't!"

Chris Cooper(?) : "The mayor is going to dump him [Gordon] in the spring."
Matthew Modine : "Really?"
Chris Cooper : "Mm Hm."
Matthew Modine :"But he's a hero.."
Chris Cooper : "He's a war hero, this is peacetime."

Selina Kyle : "You think this can last. There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches. Cause when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us."

Chant: Deh-shay! Deh-shay! Bah-sah-rah! Bah-sah-rah! (supposed to mean 'He Rises' in Morrocan)

Bruce Wayne : "What does that mean?"
Man : "Rise."

Bane: "When Gotham is... ashes, you have my permission to die."


Thank you, sir. I was able to get most of it, but missed that last Bane line.
 
2011-12-23 01:01:13 PM
Bane: "huhferabiggun"

Batman: "Huh?"

Bane: *PUNCH*
 
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