Coming up next, "hey, look, I drew top hats and goggles on previously existing characters, oh the wackiness".

I had no idea Fa Mulan, Pinocchio and Rapunzel were villains.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea Fa Mulan, Pinocchio and Rapunzel were villains.

Pinocchio ran a child prostitution ring; Rapunzel was a counterfeiter. I never saw Mulan, but I'm guessing she ran with the Triads.

Cruella was a bit steampunk anyway.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea Fa Mulan, Pinocchio and Rapunzel were villains.

Pinocchio ran a child prostitution ring; Rapunzel was a counterfeiter. I never saw Mulan, but I'm guessing she ran with the Triads.

Mulan lied on her enlistment forms.

Cagey B: Coming up next, "hey, look, I drew top hats and goggles on previously existing characters, oh the wackiness".

and THIS...

That was weaksauce horseshiat

The beast? No change
Captain hook: pretty good
Cruella De'ville: no, just no. Shes a posh white lady, she'd just be nobility not whatever that is
Hades: ....okay the fire hands are neat, but the rest just screams slap some brass on it and call it steampunk
Melificient: Ehh...again they didn't really do anything
Mulan: Probably my favorite out of the bunch. They actually blended steampunk with the orient aesthetic
Pinnochio: okay kinda funny and neat, but they could have actually clockworked him out.
Random blonde girl: ....who is this?
Ursula: my second favorite. The Doc Oc look works well for her.

From TFA: steampunk Disney Robin Hood! It's the perfect mashup of furry and steampunk! The internet would explode!

Okay, I'd like to see this. I'll admit it.

StormnMormon: The beast? No change
Captain hook: pretty good
Cruella De'ville: no, just no. Shes a posh white lady, she'd just be nobility not whatever that is
Hades: ....okay the fire hands are neat, but the rest just screams slap some brass on it and call it steampunk
Melificient: Ehh...again they didn't really do anything
Mulan: Probably my favorite out of the bunch. They actually blended steampunk with the orient aesthetic
Pinnochio: okay kinda funny and neat, but they could have actually clockworked him out.
Random blonde girl: ....who is this?
Ursula: my second favorite. The Doc Oc look works well for her.

Rapunzel, the hair is a give away.

What is this I don't even

mercator_psi: From TFA: steampunk Disney Robin Hood! It's the perfect mashup of furry and steampunk! The internet would explode!

Okay, I'd like to see this. I'll admit it.

oo de lolly, me too.

Just more proof that steampunk is completely dead (well, it was pretty retarded from the beginning anyway)

Did Rapunzel have two left feet in the original story or is that a steam punk thing?

Also, the page is messed up. View images in new window and delete"medium_" from URL to imbigginate.

Seems appropriate.

Is there a genre that squanders its potential more than Steampunk? Almost every steampunk movie/book that sounds like a great idea ends up being terrible.

First, that sucked. The only character there that would have been interesting to rework as "steampunk" would have been Pinocchio, a "what if Geppetto had been a watchmaker instead of a carpenter" scenario. Instead Pinocchio looks like a reject cyborg. The artist couldn't have gotten that more wrong.

Item the second: Something isn't automatically made "steampunk" by adding buckles, brass and Victorian undergarments.

Finally: Steampunk reached it's zenith already by 1990 and the publication of "The Difference Engine" , and the genre was dead and buried by the time Wild, Wild West premiered in theaters in 1999. It now occupies the same salience as vampire fiction, in that it is a short-cut for any talentless hack to take their unoriginal idea (usually a cliched romantic fiction) and launder it for the next generation of consumers.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea Fa Mulan, Pinocchio and Rapunzel were villains.

Pinocchio ran a child prostitution ring; Rapunzel was a counterfeiter. I never saw Mulan, but I'm guessing she ran with the Triads.

She's a drag king. According to the American taliban...she is the devil.

I liked Disney Steampunk back when it was called "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea":

Ursula was farking awesome. The rest: crap. Do it again, but better.

Steampuncle Remus?

Was hoping for Gaston with hilariously oversized gauntlets or something equally manly; leaving disappointed.

dittybopper: I liked Disney Steampunk back when it was called "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea":

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I'll co-sign this. The handmade Victorian super-submarine was easily one of the coolest rides in all of fiction. Not sure if it really qualifies as steampunk, simply because it was written by a Victorian writer extrapolating his current technology forward, whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

deadsanta: First, that sucked. The only character there that would have been interesting to rework as "steampunk" would have been Pinocchio, a "what if Geppetto had been a watchmaker instead of a carpenter" scenario. Instead Pinocchio looks like a reject cyborg. The artist couldn't have gotten that more wrong.

Item the second: Something isn't automatically made "steampunk" by adding buckles, brass and Victorian undergarments.

Finally: Steampunk reached it's zenith already by 1990 and the publication of "The Difference Engine" , and the genre was dead and buried by the time Wild, Wild West premiered in theaters in 1999. It now occupies the same salience as vampire fiction, in that it is a short-cut for any talentless hack to take their unoriginal idea (usually a cliched romantic fiction) and launder it for the next generation of consumers.

If you want an example of steampunk done well, and non intrusively, check out Fullmetal Alchemist (Original or Brotherhood). Kinda like how modern technology for us isn't in your face, it's in the background in that series.

Oh good, more Steam Punk for it's own sake. *sigh*

At least in the two newest Sherlock movies, the urge to go Full Verne was avoided.

deadsanta: I'll co-sign this. The handmade Victorian super-submarine was easily one of the coolest rides in all of fiction. Not sure if it really qualifies as steampunk, simply because it was written by a Victorian writer extrapolating his current technology forward, whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

I get the steam part, but where's the "punk" portion? Where's the downtrodden gutter dwellers raging against the (steam-powered) machine?

deadsanta: whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

The basic aesthetic of steampunk is "A Dream of an Empire that Never Was"

Basically, steampunk adherents wish they were upper class English folks in the 19th century, without all the technological advances which that era lacked and to which they have become accustomed.

knightofargh: deadsanta: I'll co-sign this. The handmade Victorian super-submarine was easily one of the coolest rides in all of fiction. Not sure if it really qualifies as steampunk, simply because it was written by a Victorian writer extrapolating his current technology forward, whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

I get the steam part, but where's the "punk" portion? Where's the downtrodden gutter dwellers raging against the (steam-powered) machine?

They just wanted to have a cool name like "cyberpunk".

There's not a lot of deep thought going on in the steampunk fandom.

KingPsyz: Cagey B: Coming up next, "hey, look, I drew top hats and goggles on previously existing characters, oh the wackiness".

and THIS...

That was weaksauce horseshiat

deadsanta: dittybopper: I liked Disney Steampunk back when it was called "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea":

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I'll co-sign this. The handmade Victorian super-submarine was easily one of the coolest rides in all of fiction. Not sure if it really qualifies as steampunk, simply because it was written by a Victorian writer extrapolating his current technology forward, whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

The original story, yes. The Disney version was, if not Steampunk itself, then proto-Steampunk.

knightofargh: deadsanta: I'll co-sign this. The handmade Victorian super-submarine was easily one of the coolest rides in all of fiction. Not sure if it really qualifies as steampunk, simply because it was written by a Victorian writer extrapolating his current technology forward, whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

I get the steam part, but where's the "punk" portion? Where's the downtrodden gutter dwellers raging against the (steam-powered) machine?

Uh, Nemo was the son of an Indian raja, fighting a war of resistance against anti-imperialist Brits across the seven seas. It's not Oliver Twist, I grant you, but it's about as punk as you get from that time period. Oh, and wiki claims he was quite egalitarian towards his crew and towards the common man, so mark him down as a socialist crusader to boot.

god damn cocksucking motherfarking steampunk farking die


/twat!

Knara: knightofargh: deadsanta: I'll co-sign this. The handmade Victorian super-submarine was easily one of the coolest rides in all of fiction. Not sure if it really qualifies as steampunk, simply because it was written by a Victorian writer extrapolating his current technology forward, whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

I get the steam part, but where's the "punk" portion? Where's the downtrodden gutter dwellers raging against the (steam-powered) machine?

They just wanted to have a cool name like "cyberpunk".

There's not a lot of deep thought going on in the steampunk fandom.


That's only because the current "fandom" is in to the stylish (ha!) trappings without any of the actual thoughtful fiction. I really enjoyed reading about Babbage's "Difference Engine" at a time in my life when the only thing I knew about Babbage was that he had a computer game store named after him. Plus the whole exercise is only as worthwhile as the thoughtful effort put into it, which only a handful of capable authors have been able to pull off, the rest are just tacking on some window dressing to jazz up a cliche-filled action or romance story, with little or no understanding of what makes great speculative fiction.

/knows you are trolling, but is a compulsive 'splainer.

Carth: Is there a genre that squanders its potential more than Steampunk? Almost every steampunk movie/book that sounds like a great idea ends up being terrible.

this x1000

the only thing that steampunk has given us that might be worth keeping is the renewed interest in victorian clothing.

now the nerfpunk movement...

Knara: knightofargh: deadsanta: I'll co-sign this. The handmade Victorian super-submarine was easily one of the coolest rides in all of fiction. Not sure if it really qualifies as steampunk, simply because it was written by a Victorian writer extrapolating his current technology forward, whereas retro-futurism is the basic aesthetic of steampunk, but yeah, I'm with you.

I get the steam part, but where's the "punk" portion? Where's the downtrodden gutter dwellers raging against the (steam-powered) machine?

They just wanted to have a cool name like "cyberpunk".

There's not a lot of deep thought going on in the steampunk fandom.

The punk part is style over substance. In this case instead of chrome it is brass.

What's the deal with Captain Hook fascist cap?

Knara: Oh good, more Steam Punk for it's own sake. *sigh*

At least in the two newest Sherlock movies, the urge to go Full Verne was avoided.

Hmm, a story about an evil mastermind who is secretly cornering the arms market and is trying to to start World World I earlier than history allows? With steampunk and Jules Verne influencesˆ

kenryoku_one: Hmm, a story about an evil mastermind who is secretly cornering the arms market and is trying to to start World World I earlier than history allows?

At least link to the graphic novel. That movie was crap.

So. very. tired...

The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea Fa Mulan, Pinocchio and Rapunzel were villains.

FTA:What could be better than a steampunk Ursula with metal tentacles to carry her about? A steampunk Cruella de Vil, that's what! Check out this wonderful collection of Disney villains and heroes, steampunk-style.

Reading is FUNdamental!

Carth: Is there a genre that squanders its potential more than Steampunk? Almost every steampunk movie/book that sounds like a great idea ends up being terrible.



Does Steampunk/Fantasy count?

/good game

tgambitg: deadsanta: First, that sucked. The only character there that would have been interesting to rework as "steampunk" would have been Pinocchio, a "what if Geppetto had been a watchmaker instead of a carpenter" scenario. Instead Pinocchio looks like a reject cyborg. The artist couldn't have gotten that more wrong.

Item the second: Something isn't automatically made "steampunk" by adding buckles, brass and Victorian undergarments.

Finally: Steampunk reached it's zenith already by 1990 and the publication of "The Difference Engine" , and the genre was dead and buried by the time Wild, Wild West premiered in theaters in 1999. It now occupies the same salience as vampire fiction, in that it is a short-cut for any talentless hack to take their unoriginal idea (usually a cliched romantic fiction) and launder it for the next generation of consumers.

If you want an example of steampunk done well, and non intrusively, check out Fullmetal Alchemist (Original or Brotherhood). Kinda like how modern technology for us isn't in your face, it's in the background in that series.

Can you explain the difference between the original fma and brotherhood? I tried a few episodes of brotherhood and couldn't see any difference. Pointedly I thought there was just some translation error with the show and it WAS the original.

Steampunk Dubstep.

kroonermanblack: tgambitg: deadsanta: First, that sucked. The only character there that would have been interesting to rework as "steampunk" would have been Pinocchio, a "what if Geppetto had been a watchmaker instead of a carpenter" scenario. Instead Pinocchio looks like a reject cyborg. The artist couldn't have gotten that more wrong.

Item the second: Something isn't automatically made "steampunk" by adding buckles, brass and Victorian undergarments.

Finally: Steampunk reached it's zenith already by 1990 and the publication of "The Difference Engine" , and the genre was dead and buried by the time Wild, Wild West premiered in theaters in 1999. It now occupies the same salience as vampire fiction, in that it is a short-cut for any talentless hack to take their unoriginal idea (usually a cliched romantic fiction) and launder it for the next generation of consumers.

If you want an example of steampunk done well, and non intrusively, check out Fullmetal Alchemist (Original or Brotherhood). Kinda like how modern technology for us isn't in your face, it's in the background in that series.

Can you explain the difference between the original fma and brotherhood? I tried a few episodes of brotherhood and couldn't see any difference. Pointedly I thought there was just some translation error with the show and it WAS the original.

Brotherhood follows the manga more closely... you start to see the break around episode 7 or so... You can get some basics from watching the original, but when the story splits, it makes it a little more interesting. Plus that abortion of a movie never takes place.

kroonermanblack: Can you explain the difference between the original fma and brotherhood? I tried a few episodes of brotherhood and couldn't see any difference. Pointedly I thought there was just some translation error with the show and it WAS the original.

The original starts making shiat up around episode 10 through the end of the series because the source material (a manga) was not yet finished.

The manga was finished about a year and a half ago. Brotherhood is truthful to the source material through the end of the series. After episode 10 or so things start becoming INCREDIBLY different.

Both are good stories... though personally I like the brotherhood/manga version.

kroonermanblack: Can you explain the difference between the original fma and brotherhood? I tried a few episodes of brotherhood and couldn't see any difference. Pointedly I thought there was just some translation error with the show and it WAS the original.

They stopped drawing outlines for Ed's hair.

Ah, I get it. They added a few plates of metal in random locations and some rivets, so it's "Steamy punk". Awesomeish.

whosits_112: The_Six_Fingered_Man: I had no idea Fa Mulan, Pinocchio and Rapunzel were villains.

FTA:What could be better than a steampunk Ursula with metal tentacles to carry her about? A steampunk Cruella de Vil, that's what! Check out this wonderful collection of Disney villains and heroes, steampunk-style.

Reading is FUNdamental!

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