pictures or paintings of penises (penii?) aren't pornographic.

You telling me all those renaissance paintings of naked men and women with exposed naughty bits are pornographic? (The catholic church still painted over an uncounted number of them -- like the Mona Lisa -- after they swept across Europe destroying countless libraries full of information and imposing their religion on everyone.



it's only porn when they are engaging in a sex of some sort.

/the more you know
//nice dickbutt, Ed Finnerty

Penis is porno?

I can live with them smiley-facing our doors, but I'll be damned if I'm going let them insult our corners!

8=====D

Nadie_AZ: We have cultures that lasted 100s of years- even 1000 years in some cases. They weren't nearly as hard up about sex as we are. In fact, they were quite open. WTF is our problem?

By denying or supressing/repressing people their most basic instincts we can control them all the better? Attach shame and fear of retribution (sin) to that and you have BINGO.

puck you, miss

Is this the thread that nerds whine about not getting enough casual sex?

Cultural stigmas are not the reason people aren't having sex with you.

T. Dawg: peni

Penes.

urban.derelict: penii?

Penes.

/ I said "penes" twice.

Nadie_AZ: WTF is our problem?

we're all bad, wicked, naughty Zoots!

Dreamless: / I said "penes" twice.

you like penne

urban.derelict: pictures or paintings of penises (penii?) aren't pornographic.

You telling me all those renaissance paintings of naked men and women with exposed naughty bits are pornographic? (The catholic church still painted over an uncounted number of them -- like the Mona Lisa -- after they swept across Europe destroying countless libraries full of information and imposing their religion on everyone.

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I get the general point of the graph (that being to piss of fundies) but why would the Christian dark ages inhibit technological developments in Asia, the Americas, the middle east or pretty much anyplace that wasn't Europe ?

Can we call it a tallywacker? Penis is so p-p-p-p-p-personal.

CornDog in 2012: 8=====D





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/heh, "Dr. Plait". Just noticed that.

The inspiration?

pheelix: Can we call it a tallywacker? Penis is so p-p-p-p-p-personal.
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I'm calling it now. "______ corner," has at least B-tier meme potential.

urban.derelict: The catholic church still painted over an uncounted number of them -- like the Mona Lisa

I am pretty damn sure the Mona Lisa didn't have a penis in it

I have a penis. Well, it's just like a penis only a little smaller.

phalamir: am pretty damn sure the Mona Lisa didn't have a penis in it

And I'm here to tell you that she damn well did!

how big of a gap do you think people who think the middle ages were 'dark' will leave in the ole graph of scientific advancement?

Day_Old_Dutchie: pheelix: Can we call it a tallywacker? Penis is so p-p-p-p-p-personal.
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Heat-seeking moisture missile. Awesome.

I can't throw a cock rock around here without hittin' a penis.


...and yet not a penis between us.


If I loved my penis anymore, I would have to call out my own name when I am making love to my imaginary wife!

AbbeySomeone: Penis is porno?


The difference between pornography and erotica is lighting. - Gloria Leonard

urban.derelict: The catholic church still painted over an uncounted number of them -- like the Mona Lisa

The Mona Lisa had a penis?

obrigatoly

Dahnkster: phalamir: am pretty damn sure the Mona Lisa didn't have a penis in it

And I'm here to tell you that she damn well did!
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In other news, Abe Vigoda still isn't dead.

urban.derelict:
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Actually, the engineering during the "Christian Dark Ages" portion of the chart was far more advanced than the Renaissance. In fact, the Renaissance was a return to a more primitive form of building. For example: flying buttresses, huge windows, and groin vaults are waaaaay more technically complex than a plain rounded arch and thick walls.

CravenMorehead: urban.derelict: The catholic church still painted over an uncounted number of them -- like the Mona Lisa

The Mona Lisa had a penis?

Leo in drag!


Maybe they were drawing cats?

This masterpiece was drawn by one of my teacher friends 4th graders

BlippityBleep: Actually, the engineering during the "Christian Dark Ages" portion of the chart was far more advanced than the Renaissance.

Yeah, St Peters is pretty much a mud hut with dirt floor.

i.r.id10t: CravenMorehead: urban.derelict: The catholic church still painted over an uncounted number of them -- like the Mona Lisa

The Mona Lisa had a penis?

Leo in drag!


Maybe they were drawing cats?

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That is the most hilarious thing I've seen in ages. ROFLCOPTRS!

As long as schools have walls, there will be boys drawing penises on them.

T. Dawg: peni

Quoth Caesar: "Peni, pidi, pricki."

jaytkay: BlippityBleep: Actually, the engineering during the "Christian Dark Ages" portion of the chart was far more advanced than the Renaissance.

Yeah, St Peters is pretty much a mud hut with dirt floor.

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I didn't say there weren't beautiful buildings. I said they don't need anywhere near the engineering complexity, which they don't.

jaytkay: BlippityBleep: Actually, the engineering during the "Christian Dark Ages" portion of the chart was far more advanced than the Renaissance.

Yeah, St Peters is pretty much a mud hut with dirt floor.

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What BlippityBleep is referring to is that Romanesque architecture tends to over-do the building requirements - the walls are way more massive than they need to be, the windows way smaller than they need to be to avoid compromising wall stability, etc., etc. Gothic improvements (flying buttress, pointed arch, etc.) allow for much thinner walls, bigger windows, etc., thus creating the "temple of light" feel of medieval cathedrals, because you are over-building much less. Renaissance architecture tended to go back to the rounded arch and downplay the buttress, so from an absolutist standpoint, they are simpler architecturally and engineering-wise. That being said, Renaissance buildings were often not trying to be the scyscrapers the Gothic cathedrals tried so hard to be, so the cutting-edge engineering wasn't necessary, either. That being said, something like Brunelleschi's Dome in Florence would have simply struck Gothic builders dumb with awe, so it was more of a shift in priorities instead of some massive engineering Downs Syndrome of the Renaissance.

phalamir: jaytkay: BlippityBleep: Actually, the engineering during the "Christian Dark Ages" portion of the chart was far more advanced than the Renaissance.

Yeah, St Peters is pretty much a mud hut with dirt floor.

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What BlippityBleep is referring to is that Romanesque architecture tends to over-do the building requirements - the walls are way more massive than they need to be, the windows way smaller than they need to be to avoid compromising wall stability, etc., etc. Gothic improvements (flying buttress, pointed arch, etc.) allow for much thinner walls, bigger windows, etc., thus creating the "temple of light" feel of medieval cathedrals, because you are over-building much less. Renaissance architecture tended to go back to the rounded arch and downplay the buttress, so from an absolutist standpoint, they are simpler architecturally and engineering-wise. That being said, Renaissance buildings were often not trying to be the scyscrapers the Gothic cathedrals tried so hard to be, so the cutting-edge engineering wasn't necessary, either. That being said, something like Brunelleschi's Dome in Florence would have simply struck Gothic builders dumb with awe, so it was more of a shift in priorities instead of some massive engineering Downs Syndrome of the Renaissance.

The point is we should be exploring the galaxy by now, building astro temples, and having spacefun

Roto-Rot: phalamir: jaytkay: BlippityBleep: Actually, the engineering during the "Christian Dark Ages" portion of the chart was far more advanced than the Renaissance.

Yeah, St Peters is pretty much a mud hut with dirt floor.

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What BlippityBleep is referring to is that Romanesque architecture tends to over-do the building requirements - the walls are way more massive than they need to be, the windows way smaller than they need to be to avoid compromising wall stability, etc., etc. Gothic improvements (flying buttress, pointed arch, etc.) allow for much thinner walls, bigger windows, etc., thus creating the "temple of light" feel of medieval cathedrals, because you are over-building much less. Renaissance architecture tended to go back to the rounded arch and downplay the buttress, so from an absolutist standpoint, they are simpler architecturally and engineering-wise. That being said, Renaissance buildings were often not trying to be the scyscrapers the Gothic cathedrals tried so hard to be, so the cutting-edge engineering wasn't necessary, either. That being said, something like Brunelleschi's Dome in Florence would have simply struck Gothic builders dumb with awe, so it was more of a shift in priorities instead of some massive engineering Downs Syndrome of the Renaissance.

The point is we should be exploring the galaxy by now, building astro temples, and having spacefun

All of this, but that wasn't the fault of the Dark Ages, that's the fault of all of humanity being dumbasses.

Moar with gothic architecture, here's a force diagram to show how such large spaces in between the walls are possible:



The pointed arch brings more down vertically, too, so the buttressing can become thinner. Renaissance and all rounded arches have much greater lateral thrust that requires pretty thick walls (and small windows because of the needed structure). In late gothic it became columns that fanned out in all directions to create an open column grid and huge open spaces, which is something not possible with strictly Classical building. But that doesn't mean the Renaissance wasn't freaking gorgeous though, it was great in it's own way.

/luvs this stuff