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2011-12-19 11:29:17 AM
Gartner Group weigh in on this shiat yet?
 
2011-12-19 11:31:23 AM
Flash drives - and removable media in general - will disappear just as soon as absolutely everything is connected with never a outage.

Oh look, my cable modem just died for the third time this week, time to cycle it's power.
 
2011-12-19 11:32:31 AM
DaShredda & Carth: 16 MP photos to get unwieldy.

Comes in handy if you're cropping in tighter on a wildlife shot, though. One of my DSLRs is 12MP & the other is 6MP. When I'm shooting wildlife or low-light stuff I grab the 12MP body. Otherwise, the 6MP body works just fine.
 
2011-12-19 11:35:09 AM
I think the article is right in the sense that those things have significantly lost their tech lustre, but stretching to then imply that they're not needed.

It is interesting how something like netbooks were seriously considered a major innovation for a couple years, with computer companies all racing to cover the segment.

Or portable DVD players is really a good example, where it seemed like every family had one or two and they were a really hot item.

Sure, all these things are still around and retain their original singular use. But certainly the smugness factor you had when owning these things in their heyday is definitely long gone.
 
2011-12-19 11:37:15 AM

DaShredda: Unless you are printing billboards or advertisements for a magazine, 16 MP is like driving a Panzer to McDonalds.


What's your point?

i.imgur.com
 
2011-12-19 11:38:18 AM

GibbyTheMole: DaShredda & Carth: 16 MP photos to get unwieldy.

Comes in handy if you're cropping in tighter on a wildlife shot, though. One of my DSLRs is 12MP & the other is 6MP. When I'm shooting wildlife or low-light stuff I grab the 12MP body. Otherwise, the 6MP body works just fine.


Sure, for DSLR's the extra MP capability is wanted and needed. But I'm looking for a simple point and shoot camera for my mom for Christmas so she can take pictures and then email those pictures to people. She has no need for anything higher than 3MP, but I can't find any new cameras lower than 12MP. I wish they'd focus on creating better lenses or improving low light capabilities instead of more megapixels.
 
2011-12-19 11:39:51 AM
Yeah, I'll keep my reasonable number of separate devices (which I already own, so I'm not spending any money), rather than putting every single function on one or two devices. .

And that farking "cloud" thing? Whatever. I like to keep my shiat on my computer, where I can get to it no matter what.
 
2011-12-19 11:41:18 AM

Lando Lincoln: Sure, for DSLR's the extra MP capability is wanted and needed. But I'm looking for a simple point and shoot camera for my mom for Christmas so she can take pictures and then email those pictures to people. She has no need for anything higher than 3MP, but I can't find any new cameras lower than 12MP. I wish they'd focus on creating better lenses or improving low light capabilities instead of more megapixels.


Here ya go.
 
2011-12-19 11:42:44 AM

Lando Lincoln: GibbyTheMole: DaShredda & Carth: 16 MP photos to get unwieldy.

Comes in handy if you're cropping in tighter on a wildlife shot, though. One of my DSLRs is 12MP & the other is 6MP. When I'm shooting wildlife or low-light stuff I grab the 12MP body. Otherwise, the 6MP body works just fine.

Sure, for DSLR's the extra MP capability is wanted and needed. But I'm looking for a simple point and shoot camera for my mom for Christmas so she can take pictures and then email those pictures to people. She has no need for anything higher than 3MP, but I can't find any new cameras lower than 12MP. I wish they'd focus on creating better lenses or improving low light capabilities instead of more megapixels.


If you're still looking get in on Amazon's deal of the day (new window). The Canon S95 is an amazing point and shot with unmatched (in the class) low light capabilities. At $230 it is an amazing deal.
 
2011-12-19 11:46:17 AM

dittybopper: Disaster Transport: dittybopper: Phoenix_M: Fax machines have been around since the 1920 1860's and they're not going anywhere.

Fixed that for you.

/Yes, they've been around that long.

The only faxes our office receives now are spam-faxes (?). Faxes suck. It seems like the mortage/real estate industry is single-handedly keeping these things afloat. Your pixelated signature and black vertically streaked pages are useless to me for documentation purposes. Not to mention they get thrown in a box that no one checks for a couple of days. If you want me to respond to your fax, you should be scanning the dang thing and sending it via email.

/reluctantly agrees that faxes aren't going away

To be fair, I was just pointing out to Phoenix_M that faxes are in fact considerably older than he thought.


Yes, sorry if I sounded harsh toward you. Not intended! I'll fax my apology right over ;)
 
2011-12-19 11:47:47 AM

padraig: stuhayes2010: The writer's GPS argument makes little sense to me.

Yeps, ditto.
"The GPS in phones are absolute crap, but they'll replace the ones in your car anymay."


I've been using GPS on my phone since long before the iPhone came out - using TomTom on my Nokia 6600. It was as good as a standalone GPS unit then just as my HTC desire running CoPilot is as good as a modern standalone GPS now, although it has been a bit flakey of late ever since it took a trip through the washing machine. What the hell is the author using on his smartphone???

Fax machines won't die - Legal departments love them so I suspect that for some things you need to legally fax them rather than emailing them.

USB flash drives won't die. If your internet connection doesn't work your cloud storage is farked. People also like a discrete way of storing information so they can carry it with them and these drives are a godsend to people who were screaming out for a replacement for the aging floppy drive which massively overstayed its welcome well into the 2000s.
 
2011-12-19 11:50:28 AM
Lando Lincoln

I'm looking for a simple point and shoot camera for my mom for Christmas so she can take pictures and then email those pictures to people. She has no need for anything higher than 3MP, but I can't find any new cameras lower than 12MP.

You might try looking for a gently used one. (The Canon Powershots are good choice.) You should be able to score a nice one for $50-$70.
 
2011-12-19 11:52:30 AM
List. Fails. Hard.


At least 3 of the items on that list are still in common use, and at least 2 of them are still a serious necessity.

Know what's becoming more and more obsolete? Top-10-lists!
 
2011-12-19 11:55:22 AM
The GPS argument is bullshiat. First of all, even with Android's better navigation, I would not give up an in-car or Garmin GPS system. Secondly, the author writes as if you might forget your Garmin, or the battery might be dead, but honestly who doesn't keep theirs in the car, along with the charging cord??

I had to use my phone for nav in a rental car once. Not having a mount sucked, and getting to my destination without a good charge on my phone sucked. Now I pack my Garmin on vacations.
 
2011-12-19 11:59:24 AM
Flash drives are banned where I work because it is too easy for malicious code to slip onto the network from one. They scan daily for unauthorized flash drives and your account gets locked if one is detected. Their monumental insecurity is one reason they may be on the way out. The Air Force suffered a major security incident a couple of years ago because of a flash drive and supposedly a common way to breach a company's network is to drop a flash drive loaded with a Trojan in the company's parking lot. Somebody finds it, plugs it into their computer to see what's on it and bingo. Security breach.
 
2011-12-19 12:02:13 PM

GibbyTheMole: dittybopper

"I actually had a major problem with a new laptop that I purchased: I couldn't get it to effectively read any digital modes using software made specifically for ham radio. After hours and hours of frustration, I found an obscure setting that mutes 'noise' on the microphone. It was interpreting the static and digital transmissions on HF as 'noise', and cutting off the mic gain."

Yeah, those audio settings can really be buried in the OS. I've never heard of such a setting, but there's about a bazillion different configurations depending on sound card/computer, etc.

I bought my very first computer specifically to decode RTTY & radio fax. It was an old IBM XT with a CGI monitor. I used it with the AEA Fax III decoder & Icom R-70 receiver. After I got hooked up to the web, I got more into computers & gradually became disinterested in amateur radio. I sold my last piece of radio gear, a lovely restored vintage Hammarlund HQ140-x receiver about a year ago.


You've missed out on the explosion of ham radio digital modes, including ones that allow high speed data transfer. I'd get back into it if I were you, if only so that you have a back-up way to communicate if things ever go South. If you are into the whole modern networking thing, there are plenty of things to play with, including:
Winlink, which is a way to access e-mail anywhere in the World,
Echolink, a VoIP standard which lets you 'dial up' a remote station. I've used it, for instance, from my local repeater to bring up a Honolulu repeater, and talked to a person that way, just a handheld.
D-Star, which is a digital voice/data transmission standard.
Automatic Link Establishment on HF, allowing the passage of digital and voice data with minimal skill on the part of the operator,
not to mention stuff like Software Defined Radios that you can upgrade or modify without ever touching a soldering iron.
 
2011-12-19 12:03:56 PM

RexTalionis: Lando Lincoln: I tell clients that we work with that we no longer have a fax machine. I tell them to go buy a scanner if they don't have one and email me whatever they were going to fax me. This is a hard reality for many of them. I like to think I'm doing my part to end the fax machine era.

I'm waiting for the day when somebody writes an article about how scanners are dead because everybody carries around smartphones.

/That day has probably already happened.


I use my phones camera and an app to scan magazine articles, flyers, recipes etc. that I want to keep.
 
2011-12-19 12:09:00 PM
1. The Flip cam: I'd say any camcorders still and always will have some uses... not everyone has a phoe with full recording capacity.

2. The portable DVD player: All disk media is on it's way out. Portable is first as most rip their disks to their portable devices. I'd say that all portable screen devices should have an SD card slot to facilitate the transition.

3. Flash drives: derp.... sorry... it's gonna be around for a long time. No better way to carry around lots of data.

4. GPS devices for your car: never got one... I always tended to read a map first, even print it if I'm heading somewhere that I'd need direction. BUt I have to admit that my phone with GPS (and full internet) was incredibly useful on my trip this summer.

5. The (small) digital camera: Again... no smart phone can equal the quality and options that a dedicated device has. I'd rather have a few cameras for any occasions, or the kids during their activities, than believe that my phone will cover all situation. I consider my phone's camera to be extremely handy when I don't have a real camera around, but it's a "better than nothing" situation, more than a relying on it. No zoom is a big thing also with phones.

6. The fax machine: While a scanner can do similar, there's still a lot of reasons why faxes are still around, still handy and will continue being a good ting to have around. I use it (at home) a few times per year, and I'm quite glad that I have it when I need it.

7. Netbooks: I'm always amazed by the number of people raped and pillaged by netbooks. having a tablet... and a portable keyboard as per the article... so two devices to carry to turn it into a netbook is somehow better? oy

8. CD player: hate to say it, but CD is another media that's due for retirement... while many consider hard copy of things to be a "security"... I boxed all my CDs after ripping them, and though that I'd need them should something happen. As I do multiple backups of my files, turns out that I've never needed to get the boxes out since.

9. Voice recorders: hmm.. lots and lots of devices (mp3 players, PDAs, phones and dedicated recorder) still do this and are useful to have. Again, the quality and options differ greatly, so these still have a place.

10. PDA: As someone that uses a PDA daily, with many features that still outdoes every smart phone out there, there's no reason to stop using it. I do use my phone a lot, but I always go back to my PDA for many things.
 
2011-12-19 12:12:10 PM

Lando Lincoln: RexTalionis: Bullshiat. If you work in an office environment at all, you know the fax ain't going away until the last office worker who refuses to use newer technology dies.

I tell clients that we work with that we no longer have a fax machine. I tell them to go buy a scanner if they don't have one and email me whatever they were going to fax me. This is a hard reality for many of them. I like to think I'm doing my part to end the fax machine era.

Anyway, about this list:

So if you don't have a smart phone or a tablet, then two of those devices aren't really necessary any more. Got it.

A flash drive is "clunky." Ah. Yes. So...cumbersome.


Maybe I'm just incompetent but I find scanning a document time consuming and complicated, especially compared to sending a fax. At work we have networked printer/copier/scanner/fax machines and I use them to scan things that I need to email. There is no way to scan it to my computer, so I have to scan to email, email it to myself, go back to my computer and repeatedly check my e-mail till it shows up which can be up to ten minutes later. And a percentage of the time it doesn't show up, so I have to go do it again. Then when I have it, I have to open the file to make sure it's a good scan, save it to my computer, then attach it to an email and send it out. With a fax, I punch in the number, press a button and listen for the fax tone. Then, a few seconds later, I look at the report to see if it went through, which it does 90% of the time.
 
2011-12-19 12:18:11 PM

stevarooni: planes: That is, until we crossed over into Canada, and his smart phone stopped working. And, his little screen didn't have the easy view that my GPS did, especially when he was taking and making phone calls.

Which points out the irony, because smartphone "GPS" isn't actually GPS; it's uses cell towers to triangulate its location. "Good enough" for driving in urban areas, and many rural ones, but there are too many limitations to call it good enough to chuck an actual GPS receiver.


Not to mention that cell phone coverage in rural areas is pretty spotty. A friend was heading out to a farm that was pretty hard to find and once he turned off the main road he had no cell phone service. He couldn't find the place, couldn't call to get better directions, couldn't search Google maps and he never found the place. The cloud and web based apps are great as long as you are connected. If you lose the connection, you are screwed.
 
2011-12-19 12:23:18 PM
I mean with fax, often you have to send actual documents such as receipts, signatures, etc... Unless your iPhone has a scanner, its not going away.
 
2011-12-19 12:26:42 PM
This article reads "lol, I haz an iPad and iPhone suckas, get with the times".
 
2011-12-19 12:32:53 PM

BurnShrike: at will disappear. They're a step backwards in terms of usability and are only popular because it's "neat".


Unfortunately, I also work in IT and I can assure you, tablets aren't going anywhere. At least two Fortune 50 companies I know are planning on rolling them out instead of desktops/laptops for several different kinds of users.

-think service positions, and nurses.

Then go to the Apple store and buy something... You'll see why they want them. Imagine not having to pay for a register, and instead buying your register software and ordering software from any vendor on the iPad market. -As far as upgrading or changing software, it's a lot easier and cheaper to buy an iPad than it is to incorporate some 3rd party cash machine with wonky software into your database. -And a ton easier to have your employees update their own software.
 
2011-12-19 12:37:26 PM

stevetherobot: stevarooni: planes: That is, until we crossed over into Canada, and his smart phone stopped working. And, his little screen didn't have the easy view that my GPS did, especially when he was taking and making phone calls.

Which points out the irony, because smartphone "GPS" isn't actually GPS; it's uses cell towers to triangulate its location. "Good enough" for driving in urban areas, and many rural ones, but there are too many limitations to call it good enough to chuck an actual GPS receiver.

Not to mention that cell phone coverage in rural areas is pretty spotty. A friend was heading out to a farm that was pretty hard to find and once he turned off the main road he had no cell phone service. He couldn't find the place, couldn't call to get better directions, couldn't search Google maps and he never found the place. The cloud and web based apps are great as long as you are connected. If you lose the connection, you are screwed.


It can be completely non-existent. There are millions of acres of area to the north, north-west, and north-east of me that have *ZERO* cell coverage. And I live in the Northeast US.
 
2011-12-19 12:38:49 PM

Gabrielmot: Unfortunately, I also work in IT and I can assure you, tablets aren't going anywhere. At least two Fortune 50 companies I know are planning on rolling them out instead of desktops/laptops for several different kinds of users.

-think service positions, and nurses.


They are perfect for that kind of stuff. I think both tablets and netbooks are going to stick around.
 
2011-12-19 12:39:23 PM

Mikey1969: "And of course, we're sure you'll agree with all our observations."

Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Congratulations.


And they wonder why nobody reads newspapers anymore.
 
2011-12-19 12:46:38 PM

jabelar: I think the article is right in the sense that those things have significantly lost their tech lustre, but stretching to then imply that they're not needed.

It is interesting how something like netbooks were seriously considered a major innovation for a couple years, with computer companies all racing to cover the segment.

Or portable DVD players is really a good example, where it seemed like every family had one or two and they were a really hot item.

Sure, all these things are still around and retain their original singular use. But certainly the smugness factor you had when owning these things in their heyday is definitely long gone.


are portable DVDs really gone btw? I know a few people who don't trust their 5 year old with an iPad or iPhone, but have no problem with them spilling milk on a $99 (or less) portable DVD player.
 
2011-12-19 12:47:38 PM
As long as signatures need to be quickly and securely transmitted, the fax machine ain't going anywhere.
 
2011-12-19 01:00:30 PM
At a meeting 2 weeks ago, I saw using a tablet. He had it on a stand, with an external keyboard and a mouse. It looked like a little desktop pc, and it looked stupid as hell (cables all over; bluetooth would've been cleaner). At that point, the netbook or laptop is a far better option.
 
2011-12-19 01:07:40 PM
Flip cameras are great for throwing in your bag and going, and there's no worry of clogging up the limited phone memory.

If the writer of this list used their phone for all these things, they'd be constantly deleting things to keep room. Oh wait, nevermind, they're uploading everything to the CLOUD!!!!!!

/fark the cloud.
 
2011-12-19 01:09:10 PM
Title should be, '10 tech items that are now improved/integrated into better tech items'.

None of that stuff seems to have 'gone away'.
 
2011-12-19 01:13:08 PM
I WANT THE FAX MACHINE TO DIE ALREADY!!!
 
2011-12-19 01:17:52 PM

T.rex: I mean with fax, often you have to send actual documents such as receipts, signatures, etc... Unless your iPhone has a scanner, its not going away.


Heh. I use the CamScanner app on my iPhone for receipts, magazine articles, etc. It doesn't produce as good a pdf as a scanner but they are legible.
 
2011-12-19 01:17:55 PM

stewbert: At a meeting 2 weeks ago, I saw using a tablet. He had it on a stand, with an external keyboard and a mouse. It looked like a little desktop pc, and it looked stupid as hell (cables all over; bluetooth would've been cleaner). At that point, the netbook or laptop is a far better option.


During meetings, I usually take my Palm (PDA), open my folding keyboard and connect them. Then I take my notes. It's a very clean setup that's very discreet (even with the keyboard being full sized)... much more than what you describe and that I've seen. Even with just a tablet, the people using then bring a lot of attention to them, gesturing on the large screen.

After the meeting, most people ask about it and are stunned that it's technology that is several years old, but much easier and practical to use than newer stuff.

PDAs would have been 100x bigger if only Palm would have recognized the market and worked with it.
 
2011-12-19 01:25:29 PM
eff the cloud in the ay. im sticking with flash drives for my storage needs and they won't be going away any time soon. i do require a card slot in any device i get, so also EFF iPRODUCTS in the AY!

/article fail.
 
2011-12-19 01:33:39 PM

Carth: USB drives, really? Tell me how quickly you can upload and send 128 GB of data to the cloud then have your recipient download it. Hell it would be quicker to drive a USB drive across down most of the time.

Also point and shoot digital cameras? Yes your smartphone can take pictures but they generally suck in low light situations compared to the S100 or something similar.

A smartphone generally does all of those things poorly for the low cost of $80-100 a month.


Great points. Most smartphone cameras suck. The iPhone's is getting better. iPhone 5 will give most cheaper digital cameras some competition. I've seen pics taken by Androids and they are pretty good.

A snafu recently caused me to lose all the content in my iTunes library. Apple has moved iTunes content to the cloud so that you can go get it anytime you need from any device that has iTunes installed. I I like to have my purchased content on a local computer so that I can access it with Home Share. It sucks to want to watch something and the network goes down mid-stream. It also sucks when you get that message that the iTunes store or Netflx is temporarily unavailable (common on a busy Friday night). If it's on my Mac, I get it instantly.

I had about 250 TV programs that needed to be downloaded or about 160 GB of data. It took nearly a week. It shouldn't have taken quite so long over a 6 Mb DSL connection, but AT&T will throttle you back when they detect a large data stream coming to you. (It isn't right and they deny it, but they're farking liars) So backing it up to a USB drive is the way to go.
 
2011-12-19 01:36:54 PM
This is all a move to get you to keep paying monthly service fees instead of buying something once.

Amirite?
 
2011-12-19 01:45:55 PM
Uh, no, genius--we will need something resembling a flash drive for pretty much forever. As we will GPS and something like fax.

Author, you are fail.
 
2011-12-19 01:46:57 PM

phaseolus: I realize this makes me a little unusual for middle-class white guys, as I'm constantly reminded whenever I read articles like this, but I can't be the only one with a plain old mobile phone that just makes calls.


You are not, sir.

/"Jesus, what is that, like, from the 90s?!?"
//Heard it just two nights ago.
 
2011-12-19 01:51:26 PM

Donnchadha: The only think I really get irritated at is the assumption that everybody has a smartphone these days, but then I realize how awesome I am and the feeling passes quickly.


This annoys me too. My kid has been on a soccer team for years. When I was the coach, I made sure to call and not just leave a message but actually speak with the parent to let them know practices/games were changed/cancelled. But the coach now lives in the smartphone world where he just sends out an email real quick a few hours prior to practice and assumes we all get it. Because who doesn't have immediate and instant access to their email account?

I don't feel awesome, people can do what they like. I enjoy having a simpler life and not being connected, presumably others enjoy being connected all the time. But lets accommodate each other, shall we?
 
2011-12-19 01:53:35 PM

lennavan: I don't feel awesome, people can do what they like. I enjoy having a simpler life and not being connected, presumably others enjoy being connected all the time. But lets accommodate each other, shall we?


THIS.

I think that's why I like ham radio. Wanna get a hold of me, try a few local repeaters.. :) Or leave a message on my TNC if I'm not around.
 
2011-12-19 02:26:49 PM

way south: Hmm...

1. Replaced by Smart phones.
2. Replaced by Smart phones.
3. Replaced by Smart phones, or can be, if someone makes an adapter.
4. Replaced by Smart phones... almost, if some cell GPS rigs weren't network dependent.
5. Replaced by Smart phones.
6. Replaced by smart phones, or will be someday. Feds like to mishandle online data, they are being hoisted on their own petard.
7. Replaced by Smart ph... Tablets! I meant tablets! (tried to sneak that by me, eh?!).
8. Replaced by Smart phones.
9. Replaced by Smart phones.
10. Replaced by Smart phones.

The future is now... and its kinda beige tasting.


0/10. iFail/iTroll?
 
2011-12-19 02:26:52 PM
Just because your Iphone does everything except change the Babies diaper doesn't mean that everybody in the world is going to buy one. I like my GPS and I like how it sits in front of you and not that tiny screen that Iphone has..I have a MP3 player that not only has wifi but the screen is bigger and the sound blows Iphone away...I just don't agree with all these things..the Flashdrive is still a good thing to have..and they are CHEAP now....The Portable DVD player has been overlooked for years now that all laptops have a built in dvd player so I can see this going away or should have by now (unless you take long trips with the kids in the car)...fax is not going away yet...to many companies and law firms use them...you can't send a signature via email ..is not considered a signature ...Cd's may be going but MP3's are not any better sound wise...anybody that knows audio knows that cd's and mp3s are inferior compared to vinyl sound wise...voice recording??..I use my mp3 player for that..not the stupid over priced monopoly Iphone.. well thats my review for now....I will borow my friends Iphone and change the oil in the car
 
2011-12-19 02:30:47 PM
Handheld portable flash storage in one form or another will never die until the computer itself is that size which... may happen :P
Also, for large transfers Sneakernet will be faster than upload/download for as long as I can see.
Transferring 4 terabytes from NY to CA is still quicker if you fly there, right?
 
2011-12-19 02:36:28 PM

BurnShrike: Personally, I see tablets (and indeed most touch screen devices) as a fad that will disappear. They're a step backwards in terms of usability and are only popular because it's "neat".


Don't tell me: back in '84 you said the same thing about the mouse on the Mac.

Touch interfaces are not a fad; as screen technology gets better, the current limitations on resolution that hamper
it will disappear.
 
2011-12-19 02:37:46 PM

stevetherobot: Maybe I'm just incompetent but I find scanning a document time consuming and complicated, especially compared to sending a fax. At work we have networked printer/copier/scanner/fax machines and I use them to scan things that I need to email. There is no way to scan it to my computer, so I have to scan to email, email it to myself, go back to my computer and repeatedly check my e-mail till it shows up which can be up to ten minutes later. And a percentage of the time it doesn't show up, so I have to go do it again. Then when I have it, I have to open the file to make sure it's a good scan, save it to my computer, then attach it to an email and send it out. With a fax, I punch in the number, press a button and listen for the fax tone. Then, a few seconds later, I look at the report to see if it went through, which it does 90% of the time.


Our office scanner/copier works great. The admin put all our email addresses into it. Just scanned 2 docs to email, and the first hit my blackberry before I could get the second one done. Plus, I am more confident that the document got to the person it was intended for using email. You mention 90% success rate for faxes. Sounds about right, but that's not good enough. I'll admit I'm dumb with faxes, however.
 
2011-12-19 02:39:38 PM
1. The Flip cam: I personally saw no need for this "phone-like" video camera. I prefer my HD camcorder.

2. The portable DVD player: The beauty of DVD (which will be around for awhile even now) is the fact that the battery life is usually more than 4-6 hours. My smartphone barely does 6 at best. Course, with that, and with portable players around, I don't need my phone for offline video.

3. Flash drives: Eh, no. Flash drives and cards are the single-most useful things ever to come to the computer since the advent of the hard drive. Heck, most smartphones USE flash media (usually a microSD card) to store additional data. No way they're going out of style.

4. GPS devices for your car: Have owned 3 in my life, and find them incredibly useful compared to the smartphone. Unless smartphones incorporate a good voice recognition software and the following TTS software, GPS is the way to go.

5. The (small) digital camera: While I can see smartphones capable of taking high-quality pictures in low light, it still will not beat the quality of a standalone digital camera. Also, battery life sucks right now on phones.

6. The fax machine: Own a Brother combo scanner/printer/fax, and have used it vigorously since it was bought. Can make color-for-color copies of any page with crystal clarity... unlike a smartphone picture for documents.

7. Netbooks: I have one netbook geared for playing video (SD card, SSD drive, woohoo!), and another for storing my movie/game collection. No way a tablet/smartphone could replace them.

8. CD player: CD still has its uses (especially MP3 CDs), especially with stereos without an MP3 dock. Course, that's becoming less and less likely, as stereos are starting to make them standard. This coming from a guy using the HD radio as a stereo amp for my smartphone (and Pandora FTW).

9. Voice recorders: Never really needed one, but most devices have this incorporated into them.

10. PDA: Most have become very obsolete for most functions that require a more up-to-date computer. Big issue when I can't open a browser and see lots of errors on the pages.

/stayed clear of anything Apple-related
//owns a -real- MP3 player; numerous flash drives, SD cards, and external HDs; a fax machine; 3-4 PDAs; an MP3CD car stereo; several computers; 2 netbooks; a GPS; camera and HD camcorder; 2 Android tablets; ad finally, an Android smartphone, Nothing Apple makes will replace them.
 
2011-12-19 02:41:49 PM

People_are_Idiots: //owns a -real- MP3 player; numerous flash drives, SD cards, and external HDs; a fax machine; 3-4 PDAs; an MP3CD car stereo; several computers; 2 netbooks; a GPS; a camera and an HD camcorder; 2 Android tablets; and finally, an Android smartphone, Nothing Apple makes will replace them.


FTFM. Dumb spellcheck.
 
2011-12-19 02:44:09 PM

rocuall: ust because your Iphone does everything except change the Babies diaper doesn't mean that everybody in the world is going to buy one.


Maybe not iPhone, but smartphones, yes. All phones will be smart phones very soon. The older cell phones that can use only E networks are going to stop working when carriers retire that equipment. The market for cell phones that can only do calls and text is falling through the floor. Manufactures are not going to continue to build something no one wants or can't use. and service providers want users to have to have the larger data plans that smartphones require.

Actually, the future of computers is that smartphones and most desktop computers will become obsolete. Ever more powerful tablets with phone applications and with will interface with docking stations for full screen use is going to become the norm. There is already large format GPS on network enabled tablets. And Microsoft is rumored to be working with Apple to port MS Office over to iPad. In ten years, the way we interact with computing devices will be more like the way people interacted with them in the later Star Trek series: voice and touch screen. Keyboards will become obsolete, too.
 
2011-12-19 02:51:56 PM

BurnShrike: LoneWolf343: The next person to tries to sell cloud computing as anything more than a gimmick is going to have "IDIOT" carved into their forehead with the guard on a floppy.

I like your style! (and agree with your assessment)


The Motley Fool would disagree.
 
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