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2011-12-19 09:51:16 AM  
Thumbdrives will stay for quite a while. They make marvelous boot devices, and for files over 250MB where email is pretty much out of the question and would clog your Box/Dropbox accounts too quickly, they're quite handy.

Also, I still like my netbook. It takes too much money and too many accessories to turn a tablet into a laptop with 12 hours battery life.
 
2011-12-19 09:52:00 AM  

itsdan: RexTalionis: Bullshiat. If you work in an office environment at all, you know the fax ain't going away until the last office worker who refuses to use newer technology dies.

This. My father bought a fax machine just a year ago, because when they refinanced their mortgage one of the options was faxing the documents, and boy it was inconvenient for them to not have one, they had to put the documents in an envelope and everything.


I paid $96/yr for an online FAX service. In that year, I sent 1 FAX, to test it, and received none. I didn't renew.
 
2011-12-19 09:52:15 AM  
Just to be redundant, and get my 2¢ across.

USB Flash vs "The Cloud"

1) Wifi is not everywhere yet, yadda yadda wifi tethering, cellphone data plans are like paying by the min on AOL Dial up!
2) You have a virus that is disabling your browser on your computer, OMG! I have a program that can fix that on my Flash Drive.

Seriously, you guys know across the pond they have like Gb Internet download speeds, Even with DOCSIS 3.0 I only know of 50Mb DL Speeds here in the U.S., WHY is everyone loving on Cellphone 4g 3Mb dl speeds when they cap your data at 2GB/month anyway??

/end rant
 
2011-12-19 09:53:19 AM  
Can someone explain why it's so hard to figure out where you're going before you get in the car? Is everyone's short term memory really that bad that they can't remember things like exit numbers, cross streets and an address? I get that those devices are fine for people out of town, but I see far more idiot drivers on my commute home every night with the Garmin right in front of their face, as if they can't make a single directional decision on their own.

Side note, I think technology is ruining everyone's ability to remember/memorize things like phone numbers, addresses, and apparently the way home from work.

/Garmin should tell you to get out of the left lane, you're in everyone's way
 
2011-12-19 09:55:09 AM  
Lone Stranger

"And I think that part of the whole "detachable lens" thing is that some of the newer digital cameras record really great videos but crappy sound quality. the bands do not want the show on youtube sounding like crap."

That makes somewhat sense, except people shoot Youtube video with their point & shoots & cellphones that sound crappy, too.

The reason most cameras have crappy audio at concerts is because the audio circuit uses AGC (automatic gain control) to automatically control the level. OK for spoken word & low-level stuff, but clips badly with high-level audio like live music. Cameras should all come with a manual level control option, but most don't.
 
2011-12-19 09:55:18 AM  
A GPS is handy in a rental car, when you're not familiar with the area.

I don't understand the need for one when all you do is drive to work or to the mall.
 
2011-12-19 09:55:37 AM  

GibbyTheMole: Lone Stranger

"The rules... I don't make them. And I prefer to guard craft service/ VIP areas and work the pit."

Oh yeah. I wasn't blaming you. Just thought maybe you'd have a behind the scenes rationale that might actually make sense.

KarmicDisaster:

"The Q IQ isn't as good, (especially for a low light concert) but it is so small and cool. If they made more lenses (which is unlikely now since it isn't selling well) I'd have one too."

Here's some shots from a Pentax Q. (new window) I think they look quite good. I have two Pentax DSLRs & I'm seriously lusting after a Q.

Also, you can put a lens adapter on the Q & use standard Pentax SLR lenses on it. Because of the 5.7x sensor crop factor, a cheap 200mm telephoto becomes equivalent to a 1140mm behemoth. (manual operation only) I'm thinking it'd be a very fun toy to play with. I'll probably pick one up on the used market in a year or so on the cheap.


I've been using all my old Takumar lenses on my micro 4/3 cameras, and like you say, they make great telephotos and can be had for a reasonable price. Probably my most used are my 200mm f/4, 50mm f/4 macro (use this all the time for macros) and 50mm f/1.4 which is now a portrait lens with the 2x factor. Also have an old 500mm f/8 that I use for wildlife, and the fact that the camera will stabilize these old lenses is just a nice bonus. All manual focus of course. I have a few others that aren't as useful; I'll take autofocus if I can get it.
 
2011-12-19 09:56:23 AM  

fatkidinabeenie: Just to be redundant, and get my 2¢ across.

USB Flash vs "The Cloud"

1) Wifi is not everywhere yet, yadda yadda wifi tethering, cellphone data plans are like paying by the min on AOL Dial up!
2) You have a virus that is disabling your browser on your computer, OMG! I have a program that can fix that on my Flash Drive.

Seriously, you guys know across the pond they have like Gb Internet download speeds, Even with DOCSIS 3.0 I only know of 50Mb DL Speeds here in the U.S., WHY is everyone loving on Cellphone 4g 3Mb dl speeds when they cap your data at 2GB/month anyway??

/end rant


that's simple...b/c Apple tells them so.

And they can update their lame Facebook status via their phone.

Yeah, that may be a bit extreme, but it's true.
 
2011-12-19 09:56:37 AM  
It strikes me that almost every item on that list is more durable and robust technology than the smart phone and tablet which, according to him, have replaced them; but I guess that doesn't matter now that technology is more about making a fashion statement than filling an actual need.
 
2011-12-19 09:57:33 AM  

RexTalionis: lennavan: yves0010: The other is an actual recorder program to tape the lectures. I find it easier to study when I can rehear the entire lecture.

The students here all use Microsoft Word with something called Notebook Layout. You type notes while recording the entire lecture. Then later you can scroll through your notes, find something you wrote and click an icon next to your note and the audio associated right when you took that note will play. It's really frickin nice, I wish I had this when I was a student.

Bah, who wants to listen to a lecture multiple times? Better to just pay attention the first time.


Sometimes you miss something when typing out the notes. Or is you are going over homework or quizes and the questions and answers are being discussed. Its perfect for studying for the final.
 
2011-12-19 09:58:10 AM  

Kar98: dittybopper: Tablets are good for looking at content, but not for generating it. If you have to do anything beyond typing a single-sentence text or e-mail, a tablet is too clunky to use, and quite frankly, touch screens as an input mechanism *SUCK*.

I can not disagree with you on this. It's true, and I've got a Mac desktop, an iPod nano, an iPhone and an iPad ;)
Apple fanbois suck.

/getting paid to work on Windows and Unix machines
//got an actual compsci degree


I'll have to work harder to find something that you disagree with. Like, perhaps, "The Lee-Enfield type action is superior to the Mauser 98 because you can adjust the headspace by simply replacing the bolt head, oh, and the action itself is slicker".

/Getting paid to work on unix machines, using windows machines to access them.
//Don't have the degree, but I've been an IT professional for over 2 decades now.
 
2011-12-19 09:58:16 AM  

Fooshards: Thumbdrives will stay for quite a while. They make marvelous boot devices, and for files over 250MB where email is pretty much out of the question and would clog your Box/Dropbox accounts too quickly, they're quite handy.

Also, I still like my netbook. It takes too much money and too many accessories to turn a tablet into a laptop with 12 hours battery life.


Also, the OS on netbooks (unless you MacGuyvered Apple on one, you sick bastard you) is far better than any OS for tablets (again, unless you wiped it an installed a real OS). I'll take Win7/Ubuntu over Windows Mobile, Gingerbread, iOS or anything else small-screen.

Also, I feel like people end up spending more at the "App Store" than they do on real, actual, for-your-computer software. Perhaps that's because everything you do is covered by the OS and your Office clone, but I feel like there's far more freeware for your netbook than for your tablet/phone.
 
2011-12-19 09:59:47 AM  
Fax machines have been around since the 1920's and they're not going anywhere.
 
2011-12-19 10:01:09 AM  

bungle_jr: phaseolus: I don't own a smartphone. I can't afford the bandwidth. I won't be able to unless the rates drop quite a bit.

smart talk - pay-as-you-go walmart phones on the verizon network. something like $40 or $50 a month unlimited. gotta pay for the phone though (about $100-200 for a smart phone)

metro pcs - pay-as-you-go...similar deal, slightly less reliable network


This. I only got a smart phone recently, as I was of the same mindset as you (phaseolus). Namely, "I can't justify an extra $30 per month to have shiatty internet connectivity on a device slower than my computer when I'm on a computer 80% of my waking hours, anyway." But I made the leap when I realized that Virgin Mobile's plan that included unlimited data was cheaper than my basic Verizon plan.
 
2011-12-19 10:03:39 AM  

Phoenix_M: Fax machines have been around since the 1920 1860's and they're not going anywhere.


Fixed that for you.

/Yes, they've been around that long.
 
2011-12-19 10:05:09 AM  

padraig: stuhayes2010: The writer's GPS argument makes little sense to me.

Yeps, ditto.
"The GPS in phones are absolute crap, but they'll replace the ones in your car anymay."


And the iphone is always fully charged.... except when you begin using for gps...
 
2011-12-19 10:05:17 AM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: A GPS is handy in a rental car, when you're not familiar with the area.

I don't understand the need for one when all you do is drive to work or to the mall.


I never understood this. I mean, if you are maybe in the delivery business or something like that they are great (tow truck drivers use them), or the rental car (I always get one when I get a rental)

But for everyday activities, I rarely have a situation where I don't know where I am going. I would like to see a rental option for when I go on the random vacation or something, and then just rent one and return it, but I can't justify having one all the time for personal use.
 
2011-12-19 10:05:58 AM  

Teenwolf: bungle_jr: phaseolus: I don't own a smartphone. I can't afford the bandwidth. I won't be able to unless the rates drop quite a bit.

smart talk - pay-as-you-go walmart phones on the verizon network. something like $40 or $50 a month unlimited. gotta pay for the phone though (about $100-200 for a smart phone)

metro pcs - pay-as-you-go...similar deal, slightly less reliable network

This. I only got a smart phone recently, as I was of the same mindset as you (phaseolus). Namely, "I can't justify an extra $30 per month to have shiatty internet connectivity on a device slower than my computer when I'm on a computer 80% of my waking hours, anyway." But I made the leap when I realized that Virgin Mobile's plan that included unlimited data was cheaper than my basic Verizon plan.


And Virgin Mobile rides on the shiatty Sprint Network, as we all know they are all shiatty now that everyone has their smartphone plugged in 24/7.

My wife and I switched to Virgin Mobile last year, 27 a month with taxes each phone. Yeah, we don't have the latest Android OS phones, but really, I'm not doing anything heavy on the phone, besides texting and emails, and I prefer the laptop for heavier remote work. I'm getting a Kindle Fire over an iPad, b/c I cant justify throwing down 600 bucks for a tablet right now. I mostly will read books, Netflix, and port over my comic book collection to read.

For those that really want to cut down on cell phone costs and aren't into the flashiest new phones, I do recommend Virgin Mobile
 
2011-12-19 10:06:19 AM  
I agree with all of these except for thumb drives and fax machines. Most of these things have been obsolete for a long time now.

Fax machines aren't going away for a long time, because many, many, many companies are still in the stone age with tech, but still important enough that the rest of us cool kids need to communicate with them. Generally on their terms. Which means faxing.

In fact, Apple, the de facto "innovators" in tech (I say this tongue in cheek, but that's the public perception), have a fax number and I have had to fax them several times to complete transactions in the recent past.

Thumb drives will get smaller (i.e. replaced with tinier and tinier SD cards), but anyone who thinks "cloud" storage is the exclusive end-all be-all answer is smoking some ignoramus crack. There will always be some demand for portable personal storage.
 
2011-12-19 10:07:58 AM  

phaseolus: I don't own a smartphone. I can't afford the bandwidth. I won't be able to unless the rates drop quite a bit.


ReapTheChaos: No you're not. All my cell phone does is make calls, I think it will text but I have no use for that either. I honestly don't see why this smart-phone craze is so popular, trying to surf the net, check email, watch movies and whatever else seems kind of silly on a 2x3 in screen to me and at 90 bucks a month or higher it's simply not worth the money.


Burr: Same here. My cell phone is just a cell phone. It can text, but I rarely use it.

I feel no desire to be connected 24/7. Of course, I live out in the middle of nowhere and I enjoy peace and quiet when I am not at work. I think I am on the internet maybe a total of 30 mins when I get home.

/not a luddite, I like technology, but I don't need it all the time
//wouldn't have a cell phone if I wasn't constantly traveling for work


lennavan: I don't own a smartphone. I can afford one but I just don't want one. I don't Facebook, I don't Twitter, I'm fine emailing during work hours and I don't text message, ever. Instead of Facebook, I spend time with actual people. Instead of twitter and text messaging, I just call. If it's an emergency, call. If not, email and I'll get to it when I get to it.

I actually like my gadgets separate so I can compartmentalize my life. I don't want to be constantly in touch with everyone and everything at every moment of my life.


I had a thought we should form a support group, then a realized we're all just too awesome and don't need a wimpy support group.

The only think I really get irritated at is the assumption that everybody has a smartphone these days, but then I realize how awesome I am and the feeling passes quickly.
 
2011-12-19 10:08:05 AM  

GibbyTheMole: The reason most cameras have crappy audio at concerts is because the audio circuit uses AGC (automatic gain control) to automatically control the level. OK for spoken word & low-level stuff, but clips badly with high-level audio like live music. Cameras should all come with a manual level control option, but most don't.


I actually had a major problem with a new laptop that I purchased: I couldn't get it to effectively read any digital modes using software made specifically for ham radio.

After hours and hours of frustration, I found an obscure setting that mutes 'noise' on the microphone. It was interpreting the static and digital transmissions on HF as 'noise', and cutting off the mic gain.
 
2011-12-19 10:08:18 AM  

Teenwolf: bungle_jr: phaseolus: I don't own a smartphone. I can't afford the bandwidth. I won't be able to unless the rates drop quite a bit.

smart talk - pay-as-you-go walmart phones on the verizon network. something like $40 or $50 a month unlimited. gotta pay for the phone though (about $100-200 for a smart phone)

metro pcs - pay-as-you-go...similar deal, slightly less reliable network

This. I only got a smart phone recently, as I was of the same mindset as you (phaseolus). Namely, "I can't justify an extra $30 per month to have shiatty internet connectivity on a device slower than my computer when I'm on a computer 80% of my waking hours, anyway." But I made the leap when I realized that Virgin Mobile's plan that included unlimited data was cheaper than my basic Verizon plan.


i'm currently on a verizon 2 year contract along with my wife, mom, dad, and sister. i think we are all getting away from the contract when it's up and going to one of these pay-as-you-go plans. i'm the only one talking smartphone though, and my wife thinks it's silly. but while i don't text all day long or play games all day long, i am a nerd who likes instant knowledge, and the occasional stupid video on youtube, etc. for the price i feel i can justify that.
 
2011-12-19 10:08:39 AM  
1. My smartphone can do this but never will actually replace it. It is nice to have a separate device so i don't fill up my smartphone with videos.
2. This will be part of a theme: i don't want to fill my phone with video and an internet connection isn't always available or necessary. When i can pop a DVD into my ipad and play it directly, i might consider this dead.
3. Will never die so long as there is an IT industry. The cloud will just not do when you have to transfer a 2GB file. I'd be waiting all day long. Also again, an internet connection isn't always available.
4. No. Car GPS will never be replaced by my smartphone so long as it needs a wireless signal to get maps. Drive anywhere in West Virginia and you'll find out why.
5. Goes with the separate storage theme, also with the quality theme. A smartphone camera, try as it might, will never replace a point and shoot camera for quality.
6. The fax might die if we can do legal documents in email.
7. These will never die until laptops drop in weight and gain in efficiency to match. For me personally i use netbooks for astronomy and all my astro apps don't exist on iOS or android. Specifically i cant control astrophotography gear from an iPad.
8. That just died? Welcome to 2003. Remember to do your research at the door.
9. You could probably use your smartphone for this but there is that separate storage thing.
10. That also just died? Welcome to 2005.
 
2011-12-19 10:09:59 AM  

Donnchadha: I had a thought we should form a support group, then a realized we're all just too awesome and don't need a wimpy support group.

The only think I really get irritated at is the assumption that everybody has a smartphone these days, but then I realize how awesome I am and the feeling passes quickly.


I don't get this mindset. Then again, I'm of the type who would gladly graft machinery onto his body now that we've discovered ways of powering devices by consuming human blood cells.
 
2011-12-19 10:10:05 AM  

Degenerate Monkey: Thumb drives will get smaller (i.e. replaced with tinier and tinier SD cards), but anyone who thinks "cloud" storage is the exclusive end-all be-all answer is smoking some ignoramus crack. There will always be some demand for portable personal storage.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2011-12-19 10:10:16 AM  

Maturin: I still have my pager


Are you a doctor or a drug dealer?

/Either way, I need some *ahem* prescription medicine.
 
2011-12-19 10:10:26 AM  

Burr: Inflatable Rhetoric: A GPS is handy in a rental car, when you're not familiar with the area.

I don't understand the need for one when all you do is drive to work or to the mall.

I never understood this. I mean, if you are maybe in the delivery business or something like that they are great (tow truck drivers use them), or the rental car (I always get one when I get a rental)

But for everyday activities, I rarely have a situation where I don't know where I am going. I would like to see a rental option for when I go on the random vacation or something, and then just rent one and return it, but I can't justify having one all the time for personal use.


Maybe it's resale value. Nothing else makes any sense.

The GPS needs to say, "The same way you went to work yesterday, you dumb sh*t."
 
2011-12-19 10:10:35 AM  

Burr: I never understood this. I mean, if you are maybe in the delivery business or something like that they are great (tow truck drivers use them), or the rental car (I always get one when I get a rental)

But for everyday activities, I rarely have a situation where I don't know where I am going


How about consultant/contractor for a large nationwide bank, with locations all over the area code?
 
2011-12-19 10:11:42 AM  

Mad Scientist: Last night, I wrote a letter to my mother on my 1918 Underwood Model 4 typewriter, and sent it this morning by snail mail. Because obsolete is how I roll.

/mom always emails me back. or texts.
//anachronistic story, bro


I tip my hat to you!

/1920 Corona 3
 
2011-12-19 10:12:33 AM  
I still like the convenience of the flip cam...when it breaks it won't kill me, but the picture is nicer than my phone's camera and I don't have to worry about filling up my storage.

I don't really like the digital movies...still buying a DVD or two.

I understand "the cloud" but am in no way ready to trust it yet. Maybe as a redundant storage place...but my laptop goes everywhere I go. Of course if my laptop dies and cannot be resurrected, I could have a problem...but I am willing to take that chance.
 
2011-12-19 10:12:36 AM  

FinFangFark:

For those that really want to cut down on cell phone costs and aren't into the flashiest new phones, I do recommend Virgin Mobile



OK, i need to stop posting in this thread, but one more, I'm on VM too. Got 3 family members too, three on the $25/month unlimited data plan (now $35 unless you are grandfathered), and one $20/90 days no data. Three of us have android phones, I just got the Optimus Slider for half price on cyber Monday to replace my Optimus V, and it is a great phone for the money (paid about $80 on sale). The service is not great in all areas (only Sprint), but for $27 month total for a smartphone with some minutes included (personally rarely use any) I'm not complaining and I'm laughing at people paying a LOT more on their plans. You do have a limited selection of phones though, but if the idea is to save money you can't complain.
 
2011-12-19 10:12:49 AM  

Degenerate Monkey: Thumb drives will get smaller (i.e. replaced with tinier and tinier SD cards), but anyone who thinks "cloud" storage is the exclusive end-all be-all answer is smoking some ignoramus crack. There will always be some demand for portable personal storage.


Not to mention that retaining physical custody of sensitive data will always be safer than "putting it on the cloud".
 
2011-12-19 10:13:59 AM  
Flash drive? Because OBVIOUSLY all of america lives in an area with broadband access and wireless coverage with perfect signal to just pull that data right from the cloud. Idiot.
 
2011-12-19 10:16:03 AM  

Kar98: Burr: I never understood this. I mean, if you are maybe in the delivery business or something like that they are great (tow truck drivers use them), or the rental car (I always get one when I get a rental)

But for everyday activities, I rarely have a situation where I don't know where I am going

How about consultant/contractor for a large nationwide bank, with locations all over the area code?


One from Illinois whose bank recently made purchases in Wisconsin and Michigan? Priceless.
 
2011-12-19 10:17:16 AM  
I think they are wrong about the flash drive, at least for the next several years. Not everyone has access to a cloud. Hell, there are still huge areas of the country that are still using dial-up. Ditto on Garman GPS devices. They are much more accurate than smartphone GPS apps.
 
2011-12-19 10:17:37 AM  

eriphila: Mad Scientist: Last night, I wrote a letter to my mother on my 1918 Underwood Model 4 typewriter, and sent it this morning by snail mail. Because obsolete is how I roll.

/mom always emails me back. or texts.
//anachronistic story, bro

I tip my hat to you!

/1920 Corona 3


Hell, the last time I used a manual typewriter, it had a dedicated SS key.

i.imgur.com
 
2011-12-19 10:18:21 AM  

RexTalionis: Donnchadha: I had a thought we should form a support group, then a realized we're all just too awesome and don't need a wimpy support group.

The only think I really get irritated at is the assumption that everybody has a smartphone these days, but then I realize how awesome I am and the feeling passes quickly.

I don't get this mindset. Then again, I'm of the type who would gladly graft machinery onto his body now that we've discovered ways of powering devices by consuming human blood cells.


Resistance is futile?

The greatest feeling is the world is knowing that you're not connected. You are not at the whim of whoever wants to email you at 2am or text you some inane bullshiat that really could have waited till you saw them in an hour. I have a cell phone that can be used if it's really important, and I check my email regularly, but I don't need a device attached to me at all times that gives me constant updates. I'll check it when I get to it.
 
2011-12-19 10:18:58 AM  
As someone who has no use for a smartphone, dislikes the very idea of a smartphone that will keep me enslaved to my office email, and much prefers to general superiority available in specialization, I will continue using my flash drive, digital camera, and may even get a Flip just to taunt you. Thank you.
 
2011-12-19 10:18:59 AM  

dittybopper: Phoenix_M: Fax machines have been around since the 1920 1860's and they're not going anywhere.

Fixed that for you.

/Yes, they've been around that long.


The only faxes our office receives now are spam-faxes (?). Faxes suck. It seems like the mortage/real estate industry is single-handedly keeping these things afloat. Your pixelated signature and black vertically streaked pages are useless to me for documentation purposes. Not to mention they get thrown in a box that no one checks for a couple of days. If you want me to respond to your fax, you should be scanning the dang thing and sending it via email.

/reluctantly agrees that faxes aren't going away
 
2011-12-19 10:20:11 AM  

KarmicDisaster: FinFangFark:

For those that really want to cut down on cell phone costs and aren't into the flashiest new phones, I do recommend Virgin Mobile


OK, i need to stop posting in this thread, but one more, I'm on VM too. Got 3 family members too, three on the $25/month unlimited data plan (now $35 unless you are grandfathered), and one $20/90 days no data. Three of us have android phones, I just got the Optimus Slider for half price on cyber Monday to replace my Optimus V, and it is a great phone for the money (paid about $80 on sale). The service is not great in all areas (only Sprint), but for $27 month total for a smartphone with some minutes included (personally rarely use any) I'm not complaining and I'm laughing at people paying a LOT more on their plans. You do have a limited selection of phones though, but if the idea is to save money you can't complain.


When we were with Sprint proper, for both of us, sans unlimited everything, just two basics, we were paying 100 a month. I didn't want to dish out more for a date plan...I just couldn't...especially when I'm at home, using the internet more than anything else. So we dropped to Virgin, and have been very happy.

And the Optimus Slider, how is it? I have the rumor touch I bought last year. I've been ready to go Android, but was waiting, and I was going to go for the Optimus, but hate the virtual keypad. When I saw the slider version, I've been tempted to get it.
 
2011-12-19 10:20:56 AM  

RexTalionis: Bullshiat. If you work in an office environment at all, you know the fax ain't going away until the last office worker who refuses to use newer technology dies.


And never forget the government. I was dealing with someone in the FCC last week and he just couldn't deal with the idea that my company did not have a fax machine. I finally got him to accept an email with images of the documents. We ditched the fax almost five years ago.
 
2011-12-19 10:22:07 AM  
There's still market for flip cam, Cisco is just an epic troll for buying and abandoning it right off.
 
2011-12-19 10:22:16 AM  

Disaster Transport: dittybopper: Phoenix_M: Fax machines have been around since the 1920 1860's and they're not going anywhere.

Fixed that for you.

/Yes, they've been around that long.

The only faxes our office receives now are spam-faxes (?). Faxes suck. It seems like the mortage/real estate industry is single-handedly keeping these things afloat. Your pixelated signature and black vertically streaked pages are useless to me for documentation purposes. Not to mention they get thrown in a box that no one checks for a couple of days. If you want me to respond to your fax, you should be scanning the dang thing and sending it via email.

/reluctantly agrees that faxes aren't going away


To be fair, I was just pointing out to Phoenix_M that faxes are in fact considerably older than he thought.
 
2011-12-19 10:24:40 AM  
Meh. I still have a flip phone. It allows me to make and receive phone calls while I'm away from home, which is pretty much all I need in a mobile phone. I just can't make myself jump on the smartphone bandwagon.

I miss the smell of typewriter tape. Does anyone else remember that smell?

/cranks up gramophone, puts on "Believe Me, if All Those Endearing Young Charms"
 
2011-12-19 10:26:22 AM  

Mad Scientist: I just closed on the refinance of my house, and the $25 fax machine I bought about 5 years ago and have used about once in all that time really came in handy during the refi.


I keep seeing all these comments about using a fax machine for financing/refinancing a home. I have to wonder if everyone here is using the same mortgage company and/or realtors that are stuck in 1999. When I bought my home in early 2009 (started the process in 2008), both the mortgage company and my realtor insisted on scanned and emailed PDF documents for everything. As I had both a Mac and a BlackBerry phone it made for easy document processing both ways (for those who don't know, the Mac OS uses PDF natively to handle documents). Several times I was away from both home and work, and the mortgage company would have to email me a document to review and approve; I could view and reply to it right from my phone instead of waiting by a fax machine at work the next day.

I do completely understand the continuing need for fax machines though; at work it's a necessity as we have to fax any teletype messages (that don't have to be signed for in person) to the jail and court for security reasons.
 
2011-12-19 10:28:42 AM  

FinFangFark: KarmicDisaster: FinFangFark:

For those that really want to cut down on cell phone costs and aren't into the flashiest new phones, I do recommend Virgin Mobile


OK, i need to stop posting in this thread, but one more, I'm on VM too. Got 3 family members too, three on the $25/month unlimited data plan (now $35 unless you are grandfathered), and one $20/90 days no data. Three of us have android phones, I just got the Optimus Slider for half price on cyber Monday to replace my Optimus V, and it is a great phone for the money (paid about $80 on sale). The service is not great in all areas (only Sprint), but for $27 month total for a smartphone with some minutes included (personally rarely use any) I'm not complaining and I'm laughing at people paying a LOT more on their plans. You do have a limited selection of phones though, but if the idea is to save money you can't complain.

When we were with Sprint proper, for both of us, sans unlimited everything, just two basics, we were paying 100 a month. I didn't want to dish out more for a date plan...I just couldn't...especially when I'm at home, using the internet more than anything else. So we dropped to Virgin, and have been very happy.

And the Optimus Slider, how is it? I have the rumor touch I bought last year. I've been ready to go Android, but was waiting, and I was going to go for the Optimus, but hate the virtual keypad. When I saw the slider version, I've been tempted to get it.


Your only choices now are the the Intercept, Opt V, Opt slider, widlfire S, and Triumph.

I've had the intercept, it is pretty horrible, but has a keyboard. The slowest and buggiest of them all with a non standard small screen.

Had the Opt V, it is OK, but they all have a "random 3G disconnect" bug. The only way to fix it is to rood and put on a ROM. The early Optimus Vs had built in tethering hotspot, disabled in the new ones. Can be rooted but not super easy.

Have the Opt Slider now, very nice. Noticeably faster than the Opt V and better reception and battery life. More recent Android release. Does not have the 3G disconnect problem. Trivial to root. I just love the keyboard, but that's not for everyone of course.

Have not had the Triumph, but there are lots of probs with it unless you put a Cyanogen ROM on it.

HTC Wildfire S, main problem is that the built in apps take up almost all of the storage, so you can only install 5-6 apps before you are out. So you almost HAVE to root to get rid of the built in crapware. Supposedly a good phone though.
 
2011-12-19 10:29:33 AM  

Cheesus: I'm like some other people in this thread. Never owned a smartphone, and don't plan on it unless the price of the device and data plans drop significantly. My cell phone makes calls and texts, and has a couple crappy games if I get really bored. My desktop/laptop do more quicker and easier than a tablet, for a fraction of the cost.


Try getting a RAZR V3xx. Great hackability, add all sorts of games and other applications. Can use it as a cel modem via USB or bluetooth, 3G so it's pretty quick.
 
2011-12-19 10:30:10 AM  

here4few: 3 Or being the student having his cell phone out.


I have yet to meet a professor that won't let you set your phone out to record a lecture unless they have a blanket ban on all recorders.
 
2011-12-19 10:30:29 AM  

BurnShrike: LoneWolf343: The next person to tries to sell cloud computing as anything more than a gimmick is going to have "IDIOT" carved into their forehead with the guard on a floppy.

I like your style! (and agree with your assessment)


ID10T would be funnier.
 
2011-12-19 10:33:33 AM  

RexTalionis: Donnchadha: I had a thought we should form a support group, then a realized we're all just too awesome and don't need a wimpy support group.

The only think I really get irritated at is the assumption that everybody has a smartphone these days, but then I realize how awesome I am and the feeling passes quickly.

I don't get this mindset. Then again, I'm of the type who would gladly graft machinery onto his body now that we've discovered ways of powering devices by consuming human blood cells.


Oh, the other other reason? I pay $5/mo for my cell phone plan -- voice only, no data. I'm grandfathered on a really old Virgin Mobile plan (technically $15 every 90 days). It's prepaid, 25 cents/min for the first ten minutes, 10 cents/min after that, 15 cent texts and I still don't use $5/month. I've got almost $100 in "roll over" credits -- and no, it never expires (unlike their current plans).
 
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