So... Kim Jong-Dead is the correct way to refer to Dear Leader?

North Korean legend has it that Kim was born on Mount Paekdu, one of Korea's most cherished sites, in 1942, a birth heralded in the heavens by a pair of rainbows and a brilliant new star.

What does it MEAN?

I'm expecting every copy of Team America to be rented by the time I get out of work...

Samuel L. Jackson in 'A Time To Kill' comes to mind.

I hope his son treats the people better and the country doesn't destabilize.

The golf course's of Best Korea will never be the same.

He's so rone-ree!

Obama: Heh. "Sorry" for your loss, North Korea!

China Responds to Il's passing:

Tannhauser: I hope his son treats the people better and the country doesn't destabilize.

That appears to be the reaction of every country that has skin in the game here. If your in estimated missile range, share a border with them or have major economic or military investment in the region, you pretty much have to suppress the urge to dance around singing "Ding-dong the Witch is Dead".

Until the world is told otherwise, Kim Jong Un is pretty much the nuclear dynamite monkey.

Earlier tonight I taught an English class to a group of doctors and med students at one of the bigger hospitals in China.

The head of the department mentioned Kim Jong Dead's passing. He, somewhat under his breath, said "This is good."

We all pretended not to hear, and moved on to other topics.

/CSB
//details left out to protect my own ass

Strangely....Uzbekistan's response is missing from the list ?

netcentric: Strangely....Uzbekistan's response is missing from the list ?

Try searching "Uzbeki-beki-stan-stan-stan"

There is no need for international reaction. Nothing will change in North Korea. It will take generations to overcome the brainwashing its citizens have received for 60 years. Most of them really do believe they live in a utopia and that all of their problems are due to the interference of the US and its allies.

I'm not dead.

Unless I really am dead, and in fact, FARK is hell.

I farking hate the word "reax".

I was just thinking I'd like to read Hitchens take on this, and then I remembered.
"Stunted Racist Dwarf Kigd Dead" would probably sum up his opinion.

nekom: JackieRabbit: There is no need for international reaction. Nothing will change in North Korea. It will take generations to overcome the brainwashing its citizens have received for 60 years. Most of them really do believe they live in a utopia and that all of their problems are due to the interference of the US and its allies.

Two things can change it. One would be a reformer, which I'm not too hopeful that they'll find in another Kim. The other would be an all out war, which would inevitably lead to an overwhelming victory for the South, but not before a whole mess of civilian and military casualties.

Well, his son has been being groomed to take over and he isn't known as a reformer. Could there be an upset? Possibly, but highly unlikely. As for all out war, well, we've been down that road and failed. China is just about the only ally NK has, but that's a powerful ally. It will not sit idly by and allow the West to invade NK.

South Korea's presidential crisis management director said ...

Where can we get one of those?

JackieRabbit: There is no need for international reaction. Nothing will change in North Korea. It will take generations to overcome the brainwashing its citizens have received for 60 years. Most of them really do believe they live in a utopia and that all of their problems are due to the interference of the US and its allies.

So they're in their Ozzie and Harriet stage. Let 'em have it and their inevitable 1960s to come.

Has no one else thought about watching the opening scene from the game Homefront again? Just to be prepared.

Cognac futures at an all time low.

nekom: JackieRabbit: nekom: JackieRabbit: There is no need for international reaction. Nothing will change in North Korea. It will take generations to overcome the brainwashing its citizens have received for 60 years. Most of them really do believe they live in a utopia and that all of their problems are due to the interference of the US and its allies.

Two things can change it. One would be a reformer, which I'm not too hopeful that they'll find in another Kim. The other would be an all out war, which would inevitably lead to an overwhelming victory for the South, but not before a whole mess of civilian and military casualties.

Well, his son has been being groomed to take over and he isn't known as a reformer. Could there be an upset? Possibly, but highly unlikely. As for all out war, well, we've been down that road and failed. China is just about the only ally NK has, but that's a powerful ally. It will not sit idly by and allow the West to invade NK.

The west doesn't want to invade any more than China wants them to. China doesn't want to take the place over either. The only way we'll see all out war is if the new Kim is crazy enough to believe that he can win and the time has come for his glorious reunification of the Koreas under his great leadership. He was groomed for the job but has also spent time outside of the country, it's sort of hard to gauge just how disconnected from reality he may be. There is a slim chance that since he's seen other parts of the world, he may try to bring their standard of living up and that can really only be done by backing away from Juche quite a bit and at least playing nice with neighbors. I'm not optimistic about that but it is possible, I suppose. It's probably more likely that the rush of power along with his upbringing will turn him right into another tyrant.

Good points. Crossing the 38th parallel would precipitate a war. I'm putting my money on the tyrant outcome. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and it is a rare man who will cede the kind of power Kim Jong Il consolidated unto himself.

'HE'S DEAD! HE'S DEAD! KIM JONG IL IS DEAD IN HIS HOTEL ROOM! I'M SO HAPPY!'

/france surrenders

JackieRabbit: Two things can change it. One would be a reformer, which I'm not too hopeful that they'll find in another Kim. The other would be an all out war, which would inevitably lead to an overwhelming victory for the South, but not before a whole mess of civilian and military casualties.

Well, his son has been being groomed to take over and he isn't known as a reformer. Could there be an upset? Possibly, but highly unlikely.

I dunno. Juan Carlos sandbagged Franco something fierce. Granted, he wasn't his son.

on the road: North Korean legend has it that Kim was born on Mount Paekdu, one of Korea's most cherished sites, in 1942, a birth heralded in the heavens by a pair of rainbows and a brilliant new star.

What does it MEAN?


Jesus Christ if I know!

I can't imagine the military brass there allowing him to lead, or he's just be their fat little puppet.

Happy Hours: SnarfVader: Most American's reactions:

"Who? Oh, you mean the short guy with the funny haircut and sunglasses. He died? That's too bad. I mean, with the tsunami and nuke plant thing, Japan has had a rough year."

Am I so out of touch with most Americans that I can't imagine that being the most common reaction? I'm old enough to remember the Korean War M*A*S*H when it was still being made but didn't the South Park guys educate the younger generation with that movie that apparently has only one quote worth repeating over and over every time anyone mentions North Korea?

Even if you're that out of touch surely most Americans realize that there is a place called Korea which is not the same as Japan or China even if they think all the people look and sound the same.


Really this is about the possible changing social and political atmosphere in N. Korea. Not really a geographical discussion. It is really irrelevent if people realize Korea is divided in two.
One part, an island, is claimed by Japan since WWII. The other a former Soviet Union Republic. And if I recall correctly Korea was formerly known as Surinam (before America renamed it after their victory in the great sea battle at Manila Bay.)

nekom: He was groomed for the job but has also spent time outside of the country, it's sort of hard to gauge just how disconnected from reality he may be. There is a slim chance that since he's seen other parts of the world, he may try to bring their standard of living up and that can really only be done by backing away from Juche quite a bit and at least playing nice with neighbors. I'm not optimistic about that but it is possible, I suppose. It's probably more likely that the rush of power along with his upbringing will turn him right into another tyrant.

If I were the betting type, I'd put money on "tyrant." See also, Bashar Assad over in Syria - he was also Western-educated, but he ended up following in his dad's footsteps.

JackieRabbit: Good points. Crossing the 38th parallel would precipitate a war. I'm putting my money on the tyrant outcome. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and it is a rare man who will cede the kind of power Kim Jong Il consolidated unto himself.

Maybe.

China's in a different position than it was in 1950. With the cooling of the Cold War, there's less fear that American has any intention of attacking China proper, and more fear that a Chinese-American war will set them back by decades because their strongest buying partner would immediately embargo them and start farking with their international shipping. The US could easily shut down all of China's international sea trade, and it's hard to run rail for products when all those rail lines run through NATO nations, or nations not predisposed to backing China (India).

But also, China is widely seen as NK's child, and 60 years of ratfark crazy has made China weary of backing the failure of the Kims, especially in the face of the wildly prosperous SK. I think with enough assurances, China would let NK fall to the wayside with the understanding that it would be SK who would take the place over, and NK falling would be one less reason for the Americans to maintain a military presence on the continent.

Best Korean Army's advice to Kim Not Dead -- Feed Us.

TommyDeuce: you pretty much have to suppress the urge to dance around singing "Ding-dong the Witch is Dead."

Is he really, really dead?
He is most sincerely dead!

Everyone knows the "real" Dear Leader died a few years ago and the world has been shown his double ever since. That, or he was taken out last week by revolutionaries.

Happy Hours: SnarfVader: Most American's reactions:

"Who? Oh, you mean the short guy with the funny haircut and sunglasses. He died? That's too bad. I mean, with the tsunami and nuke plant thing, Japan has had a rough year."

Am I so out of touch with most Americans that I can't imagine that being the most common reaction? I'm old enough to remember the Korean War M*A*S*H when it was still being made but didn't the South Park guys educate the younger generation with that movie that apparently has only one quote worth repeating over and over every time anyone mentions North Korea?

Even if you're that out of touch surely most Americans realize that there is a place called Korea which is not the same as Japan or China even if they think all the people look and sound the same.

You should know, the very first person I told said (and this is a verbatim quote) "Oh...he's like the president of...Japan?"

\ I still love the USA.
\\ I was able to set her straight quickly with reference to the Team America movie.

jso2897: on the road: North Korean legend has it that Kim was born on Mount Paekdu, one of Korea's most cherished sites, in 1942, a birth heralded in the heavens by a pair of rainbows and a brilliant new star.

What does it MEAN?

It was a streetlight.

I want to believe.

SnarfVader: Most American's reactions:

"Who?....blah blah blah"

How is it that something happens in Asia and 3 posts in we already have America bashing. That says more about you than anything else