FTA...Atlanta parents face a $1,000 fine and up to 60 days in jail when their students skip school under a 2009 ordinance city officials say they now plan to enforce.

New ordinance, submitter?

Hey, if the kids skip school, the kids miss an important day of learning which bubbles to fill in on the standardized test, and more importantly, schools lose federal money.

So somebody's gotta pay!

so if the kid wants to f*ck up their parents, they just have to skip school?

Dadoody: We're becoming more and more socialist. Not only does this do nothing but hurt struggling parents, it does nothing to solve the problems of our piss poor education system AND bad teachers themselves, it doesn't even produce good citizens anymore.

7/10

You are close enough to being a winner, you more or less deserve a chicken dinner.

I never thought I'd have to plan my next move based on compulsory education laws, but it's starting to look that way.

The federal government can't live within it's means, doesn't respect the rights of the individual, can't keep itself out of it's neighbor's business, and by all accounts doesn't produce much more than bullshiat and sex scandals. Sometime, someone along the line looked at this institution and thought, "Hey, what a great group of fellas to oversee my child's education."

And the states aren't much better.

Public schools. You can keep 'em.

Oznog: Nishu: I never thought I'd have to plan my next move based on compulsory education laws, but it's starting to look that way.

The federal government can't live within it's means, doesn't respect the rights of the individual, can't keep itself out of it's neighbor's business, and by all accounts doesn't produce much more than bullshiat and sex scandals. Sometime, someone along the line looked at this institution and thought, "Hey, what a great group of fellas to oversee my child's education."

And the states aren't much better.

Public schools. You can keep 'em.

What if they're on welfare? Surely we can pull that if the kids are skipping school....

Any of those "Take away their benefits if..." ideas do nothing but add another layer of bs and bureaucracy to an already bloated and complicated system. There will be second chances and appeals and investigations... How about if the kid doesn't go to school, he doesn't get his diploma. That's a pretty revolutionary idea, right?

I watched as my son would board the school bus and then would leave the school grounds when he arrived.

SystemFault: Note that truancy is nearly non-existent for parochial and other private schools. You know, those schools where the parents are responsible for their children. not poor.

It's time end the public education train wreck.

"In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made School Boards." -- Mark Twain

FTFY. I'm sorry your public education sucked. Mine was pretty awesome.

SystemFault: video man: SystemFault: Note that truancy is nearly non-existent for parochial and other private schools. You know, those schools where the parents are responsible for their children. not poor.

It's time end the public education train wreck.

"In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made School Boards." -- Mark Twain

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FTFY. I'm sorry your public education sucked. Mine was pretty awesome.

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A clue for you: your awesome public school education has proven incapable of preventing at least two unwarranted assumptions.

Much wisdom can at times be gained from the shortest aphorisms, such as "If you can't feed them, then don't breed them". Extending this to welfare (i.e., public) education is left as an exercise.

So, you're saying you're a douchebag?

/Wanna compare the average ACT/SAT score of your private school to my public school?

thursdaypostal: Wait, does SystemFault actually believe that if people can't afford to send their kids to school, they should just deal with it?

Probably. Despite the fact that *GASP* poor people can have smart kids too!

Reminds me of that a awhile back on Fark. Some kid in an African village got a second hand book about generators, and he built a wind-turbine out odds and ends from within the village, and a radio for something use the power. I think he got a full-ride to MIT. Which he more than farking earned, IMO.

*of a story.


/Sorry
//Dysexlic.
///Walked into my fair share of bras.

Captain Swoop: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Weaver95: In the end, I think the parents will win that f*ck fight.



You couldn't be more wrong. having had 1st hand experience with this, the only thing this ordinance does is guarantee that if your kid wants to drop out of school, they can force it to happen. I had no problems with 3 of my 4 kids, but my step daughter decided at 16 she wanted out. I did everything humanly possible in the carrot to stick range to encourage her to stay in, tried counseling, even driving her to the school daily and visually ensuring she went in. She would walk off campus as soon as I left. After 10 skips, I got the notice that I could be held criminally liable for child neglect from the school, which would possibly cost me my job as well as all the legal hassles. I signed her dropout papers the next day. Short of outright abuse, there was literally nothing I could do to stop the process.

This law was meant to deal with lazy parents who don't want to discipline their children. But it doesn't cover those unfortunate parents who try everything in the rulebook but have children who refuse to play by the rules. For them, it just makes a bad situation worse.

That sucks, sorry you had to deal with that. I'm glad you let her go though.

I was one of those kids. My mom would drop me off and I'd just walk right off of campus. I hated high school with a passion. I still feel a little antsy thinking about it being in that situation. The completely lack of privacy, the rigid structure, the complete lack of anything at all of interest to me. I shudder just thinking about it. I wish I had dropped out sooner. I was miserable. It makes me uncomfortable just sitting her thinking about it.

I'm not a genius or anything, but I passed the GED test missing almost nothing. My ACT scores could have got me into college anywhere. I was in the Navy for awhile, went to college for awhile. Nothing spectacular, but I'm also much less of a screw up than most high school graduates I know.

A lot of the people I know who graduate high school can't write a proper sentence, know nothing about history, have almost no math skills and can otherwise barely remember anything that was taught in school. Why should I have sat in school for another two years to get a piece of paper that just about any goof ball can get? What's the point? The only regret I have about my education is that I ever wasted my time going to college.

Little.Alex: Nishu: Captain Swoop: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Weaver95: In the end, I think the parents will win that f*ck fight.



You couldn't be more wrong. having had 1st hand experience with this, ...

... It makes me uncomfortable just sitting her thinking about it.

I'm not a genius or anything, but I passed the GED test missing almost nothing. My ACT scores could have got me into college anywhere. I was in the Navy for awhile, went to college for awhile. Nothing spectacular, but I'm also much less of a screw up ...


That's a great argument for raising standards. Kids learn too little. And boredom and the lack of a meaningful goal are demotivational.

But if you really had to learn something for that diploma; it would mean more in the job market and students would see a challenge and a reward.

The current system of phony diplomas given to any warm body is just a cash cow for the Teacher's Unions. Fark 'em. Public education is a failure that should be replaced with voucher systems.

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You can't raise standards and also reach that high graduation rate that everyone wants. I don't see why everyone has to graduate high school. There were several barriers to me dropping out. I had to get parental permission. I had to have a full time job. I couldn't get a GED unless I had been out of school for a year. It was all just unnecessary. Just let me go. I could have probably been going to the best high school in the world and I still would have dropped out. It just wasn't for me.

We can have it one of two ways:

High standards and a diploma that means something

or

High graduation rate.

Same thing with college, imo. We can either have degrees that mean something, or we can just have a shiat ton of degrees. The problems in public education and college education and the labor force can all be traced back to that one problem. Personally, I hate the idea of compulsory education. I wish they'd do away with it all together.

Nishu: Little.Alex: Nishu: Captain Swoop: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Weaver95: In the end, I think the parents will win that f*ck fight.



You couldn't be more wrong. having had 1st hand experience with this, ...

... It makes me uncomfortable just sitting her thinking about it.

I'm not a genius or anything, but I passed the GED test missing almost nothing. My ACT scores could have got me into college anywhere. I was in the Navy for awhile, went to college for awhile. Nothing spectacular, but I'm also much less of a screw up ...


That's a great argument for raising standards. Kids learn too little. And boredom and the lack of a meaningful goal are demotivational.

But if you really had to learn something for that diploma; it would mean more in the job market and students would see a challenge and a reward.

The current system of phony diplomas given to any warm body is just a cash cow for the Teacher's Unions. Fark 'em. Public education is a failure that should be replaced with voucher systems.

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You can't raise standards and also reach that high graduation rate that everyone wants. I don't see why everyone has to graduate high school. There were several barriers to me dropping out. I had to get parental permission. I had to have a full time job. I couldn't get a GED unless I had been out of school for a year. It was all just unnecessary. Just let me go. I could have probably been going to the best high school in the world and I still would have dropped out. It just wasn't for me.

We can have it one of two ways:

High standards and a diploma that means something

or

High graduation rate.

Same thing with college, imo. We can either have degrees that mean something, or we can just have a shiat ton of degrees. The problems in public education and college education and the labor force can all be traced back to that one problem. Personally, I hate the idea of compulsory education. I wish they'd do away with it all ...

I like tracking. High school for smart kids, high school for average kids, and the McDonald's-Walmart Institute of Technology.

video man: /Wanna compare the average ACT/SAT score of your private school to my public school?

Okay.

video man: I like tracking. High school for smart kids, high school for average kids, and the McDonald's-Walmart Institute of Technology.

Screw that. I would have been sent to high school and I hated high school. >=(

I think I might be breaking out in hives just talking about this shiat.

Happy Hours: video man: /Wanna compare the average ACT/SAT score of your private school to my public school?

Okay.

Last I checked, the average was a 24.7. Pretty damn fine for a public school, if you ask me.

Xaneidolon: Oh, snap! Atlanta isn't in Florida...

But the age is 12 in Georgia. Point stands even with my public school geography (and such).

7 years old in Oklahoma. (new window) WTF?

They had a problem with 7-year-old murderers back in the day. "Seven Sooner Shooters" they would call them.

What would a deveoped country possibly want with an educated and critical thinking populace anyway?

lohphat: What would a deveoped country possibly want with an educated and critical thinking populace anyway?

I was eliminated from jury selection for a murder trial when the defense attorney asked me if I understood what DNA was, and I answered yes. After observing the defendant, I understood why I would not be considered a candidate for a jury of his peers.

The overwhelming stupidity of the population has resulted in the government that we have today. Public education is the elephant in the room that will ultimately stomp the USA flatter than hammered shiat.