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dahmers love zombie
2011-12-17 07:13:08 PM
Beaten to death. By fellow students. Civilization, ladies and gentlemen.
Seriously, I think there should be a simple rule: Get caught hazing in ANY FORM and you are expelled and placed on a list of people who will never be permitted to enroll at a university. Ever. Set up a system that explicitly protects whistleblowers, and levy the same penalty on anyone who retaliates against those who stand up against hazing.
This penalty should be levied against everyone INCLUDING the students who consent to be "initiated". Yes, that sounds a bit like punishing the victim, but think about it -- it would give any member an excuse to refuse, beyond being "chicken". Saying that you won't go through a hazing ceremony because you really want to continue to be a college student is a stronger position to be able to take than simply not wanting to be hazed.
This should count for not just the criminals who beat their fellow students to death (those assholes should also be prosecuted for voluntary manslaughter) but the "soft hazing" committed by other groups. Yes, I'm looking at you, sororities that weigh their pledges weekly and threaten to kick out pledges who gain weight.
BurnShrike
2011-12-17 07:14:43 PM
I'd beat Subby to death for not using the proper Florida tag.
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2011-12-17 07:34:27 PM
Can't they just march them around with dildos in their butts like they did to us in my fraternit...
Wait a minit. I didn't pledge a frat. Who the hell WERE those guys!?
deffuse
2011-12-17 07:50:15 PM
The findings were announced after police earlier this week arrested three FAMU band members for a hazing incident in which they allegedly broke a female band member's
thigh
during a severe beating.
Either OWWW, or, you can break your thigh?
Earguy
2011-12-17 08:05:47 PM
Wait, aren't the newbies the ones to get hazed? This guy was 26 years old and the drum major - the leader. Something doesn't make sense.
Instead of hazing gotten out of hand...perhaps...it was...
MUUUUURDERRR???
AverageAmericanGuy
2011-12-17 08:35:55 PM
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BlippityBleep
2011-12-17 08:38:28 PM
They would have shut down most university organizations for anything like this. But it's football, and the cancerous mutation of the greek system has it's own protection as well. Any other group would be farked. Love it.
walkerhound
2011-12-17 08:38:37 PM
JasonOfOrillia
2011-12-17 08:39:54 PM
This sounds like a "beat in" or a "jump in." Are marching bands the new street gangs?
L.D. Ablo
2011-12-17 08:40:14 PM
Back in my day, hazing mostly involved large amounts of alcohol.
/and sheep
Head_Shot
2011-12-17 08:40:21 PM
Earguy
:
Wait, aren't the newbies the ones to get hazed? This guy was 26 years old and the drum major - the leader. Something doesn't make sense.
Instead of hazing gotten out of hand...perhaps...it was...
MUUUUURDERRR???
I also enjoy that personification. What a talented (voice) actor.
donnielove
2011-12-17 08:41:36 PM
BlippityBleep
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They would have shut down most university organizations for anything like this. But it's football, and the cancerous mutation of the greek system has it's own protection as well. Any other group would be farked. Love it.
Only it's not football. He was a drum major, it was the band.
Party-sized bucket of flan
2011-12-17 08:41:43 PM
Who the hell gets hazed at the age of 26?
ecc4v5
2011-12-17 08:41:59 PM
Wtf is wrong with people?
Earguy
2011-12-17 08:42:11 PM
Head_Shot
:
Earguy: Wait, aren't the newbies the ones to get hazed? This guy was 26 years old and the drum major - the leader. Something doesn't make sense.
Instead of hazing gotten out of hand...perhaps...it was...
MUUUUURDERRR???
I also enjoy that personification. What a talented (voice) actor.
I was torn between using the real Keith Morrison and the parody Keith Morrison.
svenge
2011-12-17 08:43:16 PM
deffuse
:
The findings were announced after police earlier this week arrested three FAMU band members for a hazing incident in which they allegedly broke a female band member's thigh during a severe beating.
Either OWWW, or, you can break your thigh?
Breaking a thigh can be done, but it takes quite a bit of force (compared to other major bones) to do so. That's why the report specified that the thigh was broken instead of the more generic "broken leg" (which is 99% the tibia or the fibia). It really illustrates how bad the beating was.
AverageAmericanGuy
2011-12-17 08:44:14 PM
Party-sized bucket of flan
:
Who the hell gets hazed at the age of 26?
He's a football player. They're a bit slow.
pedrop357
2011-12-17 08:44:15 PM
dahmers love zombie
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Beaten to death. By fellow students. Civilization, ladies and gentlemen.
Seriously, I think there should be a simple rule: Get caught hazing in ANY FORM and you are expelled and placed on a list of people who will never be permitted to enroll at a university. Ever. Set up a system that explicitly protects whistleblowers, and levy the same penalty on anyone who retaliates against those who stand up against hazing.
This penalty should be levied against everyone INCLUDING the students who consent to be "initiated". Yes, that sounds a bit like punishing the victim, but think about it -- it would give any member an excuse to refuse, beyond being "chicken". Saying that you won't go through a hazing ceremony because you really want to continue to be a college student is a stronger position to be able to take than simply not wanting to be hazed.
This should count for not just the criminals who beat their fellow students to death (those assholes should also be prosecuted for voluntary manslaughter) but the "soft hazing" committed by other groups. Yes, I'm looking at you, sororities that weigh their pledges weekly and threaten to kick out pledges who gain weight.
Why?
It's an all-around consensual activity. If someone is dumb enough to do any of the stupid crap that hazing is associated with them, society may be better off without them
BlippityBleep
2011-12-17 08:45:35 PM
donnielove
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BlippityBleep: They would have shut down most university organizations for anything like this. But it's football, and the cancerous mutation of the greek system has it's own protection as well. Any other group would be farked. Love it.
Only it's not football. He was a drum major, it was the band.
It's all part of the football package, dood. Stupid semantic shiat is stupid.
Miss Stein
2011-12-17 08:45:42 PM
you are a puppet
2011-12-17 08:45:49 PM
Meh, these are no more than simple frat boy pranks, not much more different than what we did at Abu Ghraib. Hell, as a freshman at Nebraska back when I was 14 they beat the hell out of me for my initiation into Ndam Kong Su fraternity and I took it like a man. And now you libs want to make it into some "crime"? The wienerification of America continues. Also my head hurts.
donnielove
2011-12-17 08:46:40 PM
AverageAmericanGuy
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Party-sized bucket of flan: Who the hell gets hazed at the age of 26?
He's a football player. They're a bit slow.
AGAIN, NOT A FOOTBALL PLAYER!
/rtfa
jackthezomber
2011-12-17 08:46:53 PM
Has anyone made this a race issue yet? Cause famu is a black school, historically. I don't think it is a race issue, just to be clear. But has anyone brought that into it yet? A quick googling didn't turn anything up.
some.old.lady.
2011-12-17 08:46:54 PM
BurnShrike
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I'd beat Subby to death for not using the proper Florida tag.
.....
When you consider that hazing, and the attendant injuries/deaths, happen in ALL states, you might think otherwise.
CapnBlues
2011-12-17 08:47:35 PM
donnielove
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AverageAmericanGuy: Party-sized bucket of flan: Who the hell gets hazed at the age of 26?
He's a football player. They're a bit slow.
AGAIN, NOT A FOOTBALL PLAYER!
/rtfa
Football players can play the drums, dude. There's no rule against it.
;)
donnielove
2011-12-17 08:47:47 PM
BlippityBleep
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donnielove: BlippityBleep: They would have shut down most university organizations for anything like this. But it's football, and the cancerous mutation of the greek system has it's own protection as well. Any other group would be farked. Love it.
Only it's not football. He was a drum major, it was the band.
It's all part of the football package, dood. Stupid semantic shiat is stupid.
How is that just semantics? The football team and the band are two different things.
Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion
2011-12-17 08:47:53 PM
Goddammit so much.
dahmers love zombie
:
Beaten to death. By fellow students. Civilization, ladies and gentlemen.
Seriously, I think there should be a simple rule: Get caught hazing in ANY FORM and you are expelled and placed on a list of people who will never be permitted to enroll at a university. Ever. Set up a system that explicitly protects whistleblowers, and levy the same penalty on anyone who retaliates against those who stand up against hazing.
This penalty should be levied against everyone INCLUDING the students who consent to be "initiated". Yes, that sounds a bit like punishing the victim, but think about it -- it would give any member an excuse to refuse, beyond being "chicken". Saying that you won't go through a hazing ceremony because you really want to continue to be a college student is a stronger position to be able to take than simply not wanting to be hazed.
This should count for not just the criminals who beat their fellow students to death (those assholes should also be prosecuted for voluntary manslaughter) but the "soft hazing" committed by other groups. Yes, I'm looking at you, sororities that weigh their pledges weekly and threaten to kick out pledges who gain weight.
You forgot to add "criminal penalties including mandatory jail time for assault and battery". Stop calling these FULLY ADULT COLLEGE STUDENTS "kids" and "children" and start prosecuting them the way you SHOULD be.
Pray 4 Mojo
2011-12-17 08:49:38 PM
Shenanigans.
26yo AND the Drum Major getting "hazed"?
Something stinks.
And Fark... no Nick Cannon/Drumline references? I am disappoint.
Schwarf
2011-12-17 08:50:32 PM
svenge
:
deffuse: The findings were announced after police earlier this week arrested three FAMU band members for a hazing incident in which they allegedly broke a female band member's thigh during a severe beating.
Either OWWW, or, you can break your thigh?
Breaking a thigh can be done, but it takes quite a bit of force (compared to other major bones) to do so. That's why the report specified that the thigh was broken instead of the more generic "broken leg" (which is 99% the tibia or the fibia). It really illustrates how bad the beating was.
Fibia ?
SaintAnky
2011-12-17 08:50:34 PM
On a side note, what the hell is up with all these random annoying video ads on the side of fark all the time now? It makes reading this page a major pain in the ass.
BlippityBleep
2011-12-17 08:50:47 PM
donnielove
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BlippityBleep: donnielove: BlippityBleep: They would have shut down most university organizations for anything like this. But it's football, and the cancerous mutation of the greek system has it's own protection as well. Any other group would be farked. Love it.
Only it's not football. He was a drum major, it was the band.
It's all part of the football package, dood. Stupid semantic shiat is stupid.
How is that just semantics? The football team and the band are two different things.
"Robert Champion, 26, died Nov. 19 on a charter bus outside a hotel in Orlando, where the school's football team had just played rival Bethune-Cookman in the Florida Classic."
You don't think the cultures are part of the same thing? If it were an extracurricular art organization that pulled this they'd have funding cut immediately. You're pretty farking dense.
CapnBlues
2011-12-17 08:52:11 PM
SaintAnky
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On a side note, what the hell is up with all these random annoying video ads on the side of fark all the time now? It makes reading this page a major pain in the ass.
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CapnBlues
2011-12-17 08:53:16 PM
jackthezomber
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Has anyone made this a race issue yet? Cause famu is a black school, historically. I don't think it is a race issue, just to be clear. But has anyone brought that into it yet? A quick googling didn't turn anything up.
well jesus christ now it's about race.
peterthx
2011-12-17 08:54:29 PM
Earguy
:
Head_Shot: Earguy: Wait, aren't the newbies the ones to get hazed? This guy was 26 years old and the drum major - the leader. Something doesn't make sense.
Instead of hazing gotten out of hand...perhaps...it was...
MUUUUURDERRR???
I also enjoy that personification. What a talented (voice) actor.
I was torn between using the real Keith Morrison and the parody Keith Morrison.
I remember the first time I saw Morrison on
Dateline
and thought he seemed bizarrely wayyyy over the top. I'm glad I wasn't the only person who didn't pick up on this.
Coelacanth
2011-12-17 08:54:33 PM
I always thought that you joined a band to get away from hazing?
I really can't believe people can be this farking stupid.
w00ty
2011-12-17 09:00:20 PM
Oh rhythm of my heart is beating like a drum
with the words "I love you" rolling off my tongue
No never will I roam for I know my place is home
where the ocean meets the sky
I'll be sailing
rebelyell2006
2011-12-17 09:01:31 PM
Drum Major? I guess he was saved from a life of unemployment from such a limited, useless undergrad degree.
Pray 4 Mojo
2011-12-17 09:02:03 PM
40 posts in...
"This one time at band camp..."
Ya'll are slippin'...
IlGreven
2011-12-17 09:03:20 PM
dahmers love zombie
:
Beaten to death. By fellow students. Civilization, ladies and gentlemen.
No, civilization is a Florida governor who wants to blame it all on the president of the university.
moops
2011-12-17 09:04:05 PM
L.D. Ablo
:
Back in my day, hazing mostly involved large amounts of alcohol.
/and sheep
For some reason, in black fraternities, hazing involves beating. Pretty farking scary beatings sometimes. There was a black dude in my dorm who got wisked away by members of the black fraternity he was rushing. The next days, tghe dude was covered in bruises.
IlGreven
2011-12-17 09:05:05 PM
you are a puppet
:
Meh, these are no more than simple frat boy pranks, not much more different than what we did at Abu Ghraib. Hell, as a freshman at Nebraska back when I was 14 they beat the hell out of me for my initiation into Ndam Kong Su fraternity and I took it like a man. And now you libs want to make it into some "crime"? The wienerification of America continues. Also my head hurts.
You seem to be clinging to my shoe. Here, let me stomp you off of me.
badhatharry
2011-12-17 09:05:59 PM
The guy was 26 years old. Seems a little old to be involved with hazing much less the one being hazed. It looks like Florida A&M band is more hardcore than the Marine Corps. At least they don't kill their own guys.
AverageAmericanGuy
2011-12-17 09:06:11 PM
moops
:
L.D. Ablo: Back in my day, hazing mostly involved large amounts of alcohol.
/and sheep
For some reason, in black fraternities, hazing involves beating. Pretty farking scary beatings sometimes. There was a black dude in my dorm who got wisked away by members of the black fraternity he was rushing. The next days, tghe dude was covered in bruises.
Beaten blue?
the_vegetarian_cannibal
2011-12-17 09:06:52 PM
rebelyell2006
:
Drum Major? I guess he was saved from a life of unemployment from such a limited, useless undergrad degree.
Um, that's not what
drum major
means.
Maybe you would've known that had you gotten a more useful undergrad degree while in college :p
badhatharry
2011-12-17 09:09:08 PM
Back in my day, the black guys just got branded. Really branded with red hot irons.
ad
2011-12-17 09:19:53 PM
This sounds like a modern day lynching...wait the perps are black too..I am just confused now. I would like to point out that the two dirtiest businesses in the world are politics and entertainment.
SnakeMan
2011-12-17 09:26:07 PM
pedrop357
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dahmers love zombie: Beaten to death. By fellow students. Civilization, ladies and gentlemen.
Seriously, I think there should be a simple rule: Get caught hazing in ANY FORM and you are expelled and placed on a list of people who will never be permitted to enroll at a university. Ever. Set up a system that explicitly protects whistleblowers, and levy the same penalty on anyone who retaliates against those who stand up against hazing.
This penalty should be levied against everyone INCLUDING the students who consent to be "initiated". Yes, that sounds a bit like punishing the victim, but think about it -- it would give any member an excuse to refuse, beyond being "chicken". Saying that you won't go through a hazing ceremony because you really want to continue to be a college student is a stronger position to be able to take than simply not wanting to be hazed.
This should count for not just the criminals who beat their fellow students to death (those assholes should also be prosecuted for voluntary manslaughter) but the "soft hazing" committed by other groups. Yes, I'm looking at you, sororities that weigh their pledges weekly and threaten to kick out pledges who gain weight.
Why?
It's an all-around consensual activity.
WAT. Who consents to be hazed? That's like saying pranking is all-around consensual.
doglover
2011-12-17 09:26:23 PM
You think that's bad?
You should see what San Diego's hazing rituals were like.
Earguy
2011-12-17 09:27:46 PM
jackthezomber
:
Has anyone made this a race issue yet? Cause famu is a black school, historically. I don't think it is a race issue, just to be clear. But has anyone brought that into it yet? A quick googling didn't turn anything up.
HBO's Real Sports did a whole story on marching band hazing at traditionally black colleges. They saw this coming a year ago.
doglover
2011-12-17 09:29:57 PM
SnakeMan
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Who consents to be hazed?
Pretty much anyone who goes through it.
Hazing to get into a frat, for example. No one's putting the olive in your butt or making you hold the lit match, You gotta do that on your own.
But hazing has been around FOREVER and quite frankly will remain no matter how hard you try to legislate it out of existence. It's part of human nature to fark with people. That's why every religion has a trickster deity.
Sure, sometimes people die like this. But for everyone who dies there's a whole lot more who just go home and try to scrub the smell of oilves outta their underoos.
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