Going in the right direction

Probably helpful that they don't have the war in Iraq to pay for this year.

So, a 0.3 percent reduction.. Big deal.

Wait until we wrap the Afghanistan festivities - more progress. That is, if the two parties can avoid spending the ensuing "peace divided" three times over like they did after the cold war.

Surely this will create billions of jobs.

Soon, we'll be talking real money.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Going in the right direction

Meh. Unless it triggers another economy slump.

You know what else would reduce the deficit?

/oh wait, it'l "hurt" the "job creators".

If the Supreme Court made a ruling that the President earnestly believed cut into the exec's Article II powers, it would be his duty--and not simply his option--to defy that ruling.

Obligatory.



This is farking nothing. Which isn't automatically a bad thing, mind you, but I do wish a fair bit less of it went to defense and a fair bit more went to infrastructure.

BravadoGT: If the Supreme Court made a ruling that the President earnestly believed cut into the exec's Article II powers, it would be his duty--and not simply his option--to defy that ruling.

Wrong thread, bro. (pops)

/and you're farking wrong

FishyFred: BravadoGT: If the Supreme Court made a ruling that the President earnestly believed cut into the exec's Article II powers, it would be his duty--and not simply his option--to defy that ruling.

Wrong thread, bro. (pops)

/and you're farking wrong

Wrong thread, yes, but the point is valid. Reposting there. Feel free to enlighten me.

Silvara: Probably helpful that they don't have the war in Iraq to pay for this year.

Bing-farking-go

BravadoGT: FishyFred: BravadoGT: If the Supreme Court made a ruling that the President earnestly believed cut into the exec's Article II powers, it would be his duty--and not simply his option--to defy that ruling.

Wrong thread, bro. (pops)

/and you're farking wrong

Wrong thread, yes, but the point is valid. Reposting there. Feel free to enlighten me.

Done.

Silvara: Probably helpful that they don't have the war in Iraq to pay for this year.

What about the war in Canada?

/oh, I wasn't supposed to mention that...

We'll wait and see what happens. Not counting waste, legacy spending, and inefficiency, you would expect government expenditures at least to rise annually according to the rate of population increase and inflation--so that the same level of services can maintained/delivered across a larger population, speaking broadly of course.The population is increasing and inflation is rising, albeit slowly in the case of the latter.

Silvara: Probably helpful that they don't have the war in Iraq to pay for this year.

This, a hundred times.

Repugnantans think that wars don't cost money.

Because People in power are Stupid: Silvara: Probably helpful that they don't have the war in Iraq to pay for this year.

This, a hundred times.

Repugnantans think that wars don't cost money.

Wait? Wars really do cost money? Noooooooooooooo...

Also FTFA: "The Internal Revenue Service will be cut $305 million below current funding - a $1.5 billion reduction from Obama's request."

So, the Republicans want to make it easier for people to get away with cheating on their taxes? I wonder why?

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Going in the right direction

Next step: get rid of the Bush tax cuts.

That would actually make a difference.

The Internal Revenue Service will be cut $305 million below current funding - a $1.5 billion reduction from Obama's request.

Good job, way to make it even easier for the rich to hide their money!

Most sensitive for any Democratic president is the labor, health and education title of the bill. There, spending will come down by $1.4 billion from the 2011 program level, forcing a series of difficult choices that won't go away after one year.

So as the rest of the world gets smarter and healthier, we get dumber and sicker. It's really the Republican way.

$94B is nothing. Want to put a dent into the deficit? Don't renew the Bush tax cuts. $4T savings over the next 10 years, more than anything anyone has proposed, and all it does it return taxes back to a time of significant economic growth.

devioustrevor: $1.181T seems pretty small for a country of 300M+ and an economy of over $10T.

Is this only a partial budget?


Or is the $1.181T only the deficit?

Appropriations are non-mandatory spending - defense, health, education, et. al. SS, Medicare and debt payments are mandatory spending and separate.

This is part of the budget.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Going in the right direction

cuts for the sake of cuts are stupid. so far the GOP's cuts have supressed economic growth. countries around the world with austerity budgets are facing minimal or even negative economic growth. The GOP are doubling down on it.

Go Team!

bravian: The hero tag should only apply if they seriously cut defense and reform social security and medicare. Everything else is just raindrops in the ocean pissing in the wind.

ftfy

GoldSpider: gwydion56: So, the Republicans want to make it easier for people to get away with cheating on their taxes? I wonder why?

Why? Because in your world, budgets necessarily can only go up, and any attempt to trim them is proof of the vast right-wing conspiracy.

So your answer to cheating on taxes is LOOK OVER THERE SOCIALISM?

Sweet.

GoldSpider: gwydion56: So, the Republicans want to make it easier for people to get away with cheating on their taxes? I wonder why?

Why? Because in your world, budgets necessarily can only go up, and any attempt to trim them is proof of the vast right-wing conspiracy.

What conspiracy? A conspiracy requires some attempt to hide it. "Our #1 priority is to make Obama a 1-term President" is not a conspiracy. It's a clearly stated agenda.

Dwight_Yeast: So long as Obama is in office, we won't make a military move on Iran. Their government is hanging on by its fingernails and the people would love to see the leaders gone. But the only way that's going to happen is if we have no involvement in it.

Obama knows that. Every diplomat who knows anything about Iran knows that. The only idiots who don't are running for the GOP nod, in Congress, or John Bolton.


"Identify the correct course of action and then intentionally do the opposite."

I just described America's foreign, military, legislative, judicial, social, and fiscal policies.

qorkfiend: Why would having it run less efficiently be desirable, regardless of its current efficiency?

It's the standard Republican response to blow something out of proportion without answering the question. Like how they like saying that because collecting every cent of the GDP as taxes this year cannot fully erase the national debt, taxes shouldn't be raised one cent to reduce the deficit and in fact taxes should be cut on the rich.

Yes, this argument is made seriously by Republicans.

Vote Republican.

GoldSpider: Budget cuts to the IRS causes people to cheat on their taxes?

If the IRS is less capable of finding and prosecuting fraud, it will only encourage people to lie to pay less. I would have thought this was a simple and easy to follow thought process.