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(Some Guy) Obvious Most Americans think Obama doesn't deserve second term. "Unemployment wasn't the change we were hoping for"   (king5.com) divider line 159
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2011-12-17 03:27:46 PM
this article indicates that the republican plan to not compromise on anything is working, regardless of whether it is damaging the country.
 
2011-12-17 03:31:07 PM
Perhaps Apu will retire.
 
2011-12-17 03:57:17 PM
He probably doesn't. But then no one running against him deserves it either.
 
2011-12-17 04:15:37 PM
Perhaps not, but I'm sure that creating an Oligarchy or Theocracy is change that people want less.
 
2011-12-17 04:21:51 PM
Sleeping Monkey: Perhaps not, but I'm sure that creating an Oligarchy or Theocracy is change that people want less.

It looks like an Oligarchy right now. The left wing crew in the White House, a small cabal of union leaders and a crew of cronies on Wall Street. It's like an evil triangle of a small group of people.
 
2011-12-17 04:23:15 PM
Wait, I thought it was up to the private sector to create jobs. How is he responsible for all the unemployment again?
 
2011-12-17 04:24:47 PM
dudemanbro: Wait, I thought it was up to the private sector to create jobs. How is he responsible for all the unemployment again?

He lowered taxes and made not spending money on hiring employees more valuable to businesses.
 
2011-12-17 04:38:38 PM
dudemanbro: Wait, I thought it was up to the private sector to create jobs. How is he responsible for all the unemployment again?

When it goes up, that's Obama. When it goes down, that's market forces.
 
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2011-12-17 05:24:13 PM
GaryPDX: It's like an evil triangle of a small group of people.

Yes of course but only in your mind.
 
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2011-12-17 05:30:13 PM
Let's get this right, the Bush administration was in the White House for 8 years and then the economy collapsed it wasn't Bush's fault, now the Tea Party has asked US corporations to not hire new employees until after Obama is out of office and somehow unemployment caused by the collapse is Obama's fault?
 
2011-12-17 05:48:12 PM
NFA: Let's get this right, the Bush administration was in the White House for 8 years and then the economy collapsed it wasn't Bush's fault, now the Tea Party has asked US corporations to not hire new employees until after Obama is out of office and somehow unemployment caused by the collapse is Obama's fault?

Correct.

Tune in tomorrow when we vilify him for laying off thousands of service members while the military gets shrunk thanks to ending the Iraq war.
 
2011-12-17 05:56:01 PM
Whaddya mean "doesn't deserve a second term"? It's not about punishing or rewarding Obama in any manner whatsoever. That's what all the book deals, lecture fees, and consulting fees are for. It is about reelecting one of the smartest and most energetic and most well-spoken presidents ever, and it is about not electing any one of that bunch of grifters on the right-wing slate.
 
2011-12-17 06:11:08 PM
I don't know if Obama "deserves" a second term, but I DO know that none of us have done anything so bad as to deserve a president from lineup of these recent debates.
 
2011-12-17 06:31:41 PM
This About That: It's not about punishing or rewarding Obama in any manner whatsoever.

Yes it is. Obama defied the American people by forcing unpopular Obamacare through Congress against their wishes. On election day, the voters will deliver their punishment.
 
2011-12-17 06:40:53 PM
SkinnyHead: Obamacare

"Obamacare" again. Oh, you mean the Presidents effort to rescue us from the greedy insurance industry and from dependence upon an employer for health care. You mean the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option and leave us prey for the insurance industry because that industry excels at nothing better than convincing poor dumb schmucks to unwittingly support their agenda of extortion and greed. You mean that Obamacare? Well, it wasn't all the American public needed and wanted, but kudos to Obama for having the courage to pursue and achieve what he did despite the name-calling, falsehoods, obstructionism and vilification by the right-wing idiots and the lobbyists and big money interests that manipulate them.
 
2011-12-17 06:59:13 PM
SkinnyHead: This About That: It's not about punishing or rewarding Obama in any manner whatsoever.

Yes it is. Obama defied the American people by forcing unpopular Obamacare through Congress against their wishes. On election day, the voters will deliver their punishment.


Wait'll you see the support levels for the actual provisions in Obamacare. You'll flip, Mr. Chip!

I think Republicans are going to regret attaching his name to it.
 
2011-12-17 07:02:14 PM
This About That: SkinnyHead: Obamacare

"Obamacare" again. Oh, you mean the Presidents effort to rescue us from the greedy insurance industry and from dependence upon an employer for health care. You mean the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option and leave us prey for the insurance industry because that industry excels at nothing better than convincing poor dumb schmucks to unwittingly support their agenda of extortion and greed. You mean that Obamacare? Well, it wasn't all the American public needed and wanted, but kudos to Obama for having the courage to pursue and achieve what he did despite the name-calling, falsehoods, obstructionism and vilification by the right-wing idiots and the lobbyists and big money interests that manipulate them.


That's the one. Those who support it are in the minority and their support is only lukewarm. They call it the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option and leave us prey for the insurance industry and they complain that it wasn't all the American public needed and wanted. Lot of them are so disillusioned, they won't even show up to vote.

Those who oppose Obamacare, on the other hand, are in the majority and they're furious about it. They will be showing up on election day to deliver their punishment.
 
2011-12-17 07:17:20 PM
SkinnyHead: They call it the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option

Oh, so you're contending that the public is angry because Obama didn't go too far enough? Well, yes, surely this means that they'll vote for the GOP next year.
 
2011-12-17 07:17:58 PM
SkinnyHead: Those who support it are in the minority and their support is only lukewarm. They call it the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option and leave us prey for the insurance industry and they complain that it wasn't all the American public needed and wanted. Lot of them are so disillusioned, they won't even show up to vote

Who are these people? You're not thinking of polls from early 2010, are you?
 
2011-12-17 07:18:15 PM
SkinnyHead: Those who support it are in the minority and their support is only lukewarm.

SkinnyHead: Those who oppose Obamacare, on the other hand, are in the majority and they're furious about it.

It is a well-known truism that people with something to complain about (or think they do) are hundreds of times more likely to speak up about it than those who have no complaints, making what you say very plausible. We have become a nation of whiny, entitled dumbshiats, controlled by those whose specialty is manipulating and misleading that demographic. So you may be right, although I still hold out hope that Americans have suddenly become smarter and more discerning in the time since we elected Dick and Dubya twice in succession.
 
2011-12-17 07:20:48 PM
gilgigamesh: He probably doesn't. But then no one running against him deserves it a first term either.

ftfy
 
2011-12-17 07:20:56 PM
SkinnyHead: This About That: SkinnyHead: Obamacare

"Obamacare" again. Oh, you mean the Presidents effort to rescue us from the greedy insurance industry and from dependence upon an employer for health care. You mean the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option and leave us prey for the insurance industry because that industry excels at nothing better than convincing poor dumb schmucks to unwittingly support their agenda of extortion and greed. You mean that Obamacare? Well, it wasn't all the American public needed and wanted, but kudos to Obama for having the courage to pursue and achieve what he did despite the name-calling, falsehoods, obstructionism and vilification by the right-wing idiots and the lobbyists and big money interests that manipulate them.

That's the one. Those who support it are in the minority and their support is only lukewarm. They call it the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option and leave us prey for the insurance industry and they complain that it wasn't all the American public needed and wanted. Lot of them are so disillusioned, they won't even show up to vote.

Those who oppose Obamacare, on the other hand, are in the majority and they're furious about it. They will be showing up on election day to deliver their punishment.


but the teabaggers already repealed obamacare when they got elected?
 
2011-12-17 07:21:01 PM
SkinnyHead: Obamacare

One day in the future republicans will regret giving it that name.
 
2011-12-17 07:21:31 PM
Nobody "deserves" the presidency. It's merely a temp job for the best qualified of the willing.
 
2011-12-17 07:22:27 PM
This About That: It is a well-known truism that people with something to complain about (or think they do) are hundreds of times more likely to speak up about it than those who have no complaints, making what you say very plausible. We have become a nation of whiny, entitled dumbshiats, controlled by those whose specialty is manipulating and misleading that demographic. So you may be right, although I still hold out hope that Americans have suddenly become smarter and more discerning in the time since we elected Dick and Dubya twice in succession.

And this is exactly why we need every eligible voter to actually vote. Universal voter registration and compulsory voting. It's a thing.
 
2011-12-17 07:23:26 PM
Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
 
2011-12-17 07:25:26 PM
Skinnyhead, you are a farkin tard. Do you actually want one of those republican hopefuls as president? What happened to this country? Why cant we have decent single payer healthcare? People like you.
 
2011-12-17 07:25:53 PM
Most? As in all the readers of a right wing rag? That's like polling CNN and finding out "most" Americans like soccer and legalized pot.
 
2011-12-17 07:26:52 PM
kronicfeld: SkinnyHead: They call it the plan that had to abandon the single-payer option

Oh, so you're contending that the public is angry because Obama didn't go too far enough? Well, yes, surely this means that they'll vote for the GOP next year.


No, I am saying that Obamacare supporters are not completely satisfied with Obamacare.

cameroncrazy1984: Who are these people? You're not thinking of polls from early 2010, are you?

No, latest polls show majority favor repeal.
 
2011-12-17 07:28:36 PM
That anyone could point at one of the current GOP presidential candidates and say 'Yes, that is who the most powerful person in the world should be' absolutely terrifies me.
 
2011-12-17 07:32:42 PM
SkinnyHead: No, latest polls show majority favor repeal.

Where's the replacement?
 
2011-12-17 07:33:12 PM
GaryPDX: The left wing crew in the White House

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-12-17 07:34:47 PM
The economy has gotten better, regardless of the pain it took. Continuing the stimulus and TARP was the right move, and his tax plan is the most sensible.

Blaming Obama is like getting angry at the guy who pulled you from a hole because he got your clothes dirty.
 
2011-12-17 07:34:49 PM
A majority of adults say President Barack Obama does not deserve a second term but are evenly divided on whether he will win re-election next year, says a new Associated Press-GfK poll that highlights some of the campaign obstacles he faces

even if we take this poll at face value, the GOP still doesn't have a viable challenger. Obama is (once again) going to win by default.
 
2011-12-17 07:35:03 PM
So many opinions in this thread. I'm going to trust the guy with the GED in political science.
 
2011-12-17 07:35:41 PM
SkinnyHead: No, I am saying that Obamacare supporters are not completely satisfied with Obamacare.

Yes, and rather than expand into a single-player or a public option plan, we should just go with the option the other side of the aisle presents:

newsrealblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-12-17 07:36:40 PM
GaryPDX: . It's like an evil triangle of a small group of people.

i'm pretty sure Goldman-Sachs is non-partisan in their approach to corrupting our government.
 
2011-12-17 07:38:51 PM
I'm trying to imagine what kind of lunatic Romney will have as a running mate to woo the base in the general.
 
2011-12-17 07:39:46 PM
SkinnyHead: No, latest polls show majority favor repeal.

If you have one side constantly bashing it in full force (via right-wing radio, FOXNews, and the Republican-obsessed traditional media) this is to be expected. biatching, apparently, is news, and if enough people biatch about something long enough it will lose popularity.

Of course it's December in an off-election year, so the other side doesn't care, and why should they? The legislation is passed. When the time comes, all they have to do is point to the components of the ACA (which poll very well) and the tide will turn back. You may have forgotten, but Obama is a pretty good campaigner.
 
2011-12-17 07:40:05 PM
Although the public would prefer Obama be voted out of office, he fares relatively well in potential matchups with Republicans Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich.

Ah, so another poll that shows Obama is in trouble because he would lose to a hypothetical non-existant Republican candidate.
 
2011-12-17 07:41:32 PM
And yet, Mitt and Newt are even worse choices.

/NO NOT RON PAUL EITHER
 
2011-12-17 07:41:34 PM
2.5 million young adults have added health coverage, US says (new window)

An estimated 2.5 million young adults have gained health insurance coverage since the 2010 health care law took effect, according to a new government survey - a finding the Obama administration is embracing as it continues efforts to communicate the health's law's benefits, even as public opinion about the law remains mixed.

By March... the uninsured rate for this population [adults between 19 and 25] reached its lowest point in more than a decade, down to 28.8 percent.


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
 
2011-12-17 07:42:03 PM
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I'm trying to imagine what kind of lunatic Romney will have as a running mate to woo the base in the general.

Romney isn't going to get the GOP nomination - the evangelicals will never endorse him.
 
2011-12-17 07:44:23 PM
Unemployment is back to 2008 levels, and will probably drop even further before the election. The stock market and corporate profits are doing great. If this is all they've got (besides "HE'S BLACK!!!"), Romney/Gingrich are in trouble.
 
2011-12-17 07:45:26 PM
As has been mentioned by others, he doesn't deserve a second term. His performance has been in many ways less than satisfactory.

Nonetheless the lunatics that are his opponents are frightening to imagine as holding the oval office.
 
2011-12-17 07:47:57 PM
SkinnyHead: No, latest polls show majority favor repeal

[citation needed] for multiple polls, not just Rasmussen.
 
2011-12-17 07:48:06 PM
Weaver95: Romney isn't going to get the GOP nomination - the evangelicals will never endorse him.

Then Newt? Really? I think it's more likely that the GOP will finally be forced to stop kowtowing to the evangelicals and pick their most electable candidate. Who will then lose to Obama.
 
2011-12-17 07:48:50 PM
farkityfarker: Although the public would prefer Obama be voted out of office, he fares relatively well in potential matchups with Republicans Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich.

Ah, so another poll that shows Obama is in trouble because he would lose to a hypothetical non-existant Republican candidate.


He's in trouble because he doesn't compare to what people's expectations were/are. This is due to a variety of reasons: people's interpretations of his campaign, Republican (and Blue Dog) opposition, generally unrealistic expectations of what a President can do on his own, as well as Obama compromising too much (aka giving in) on a number of key issues.

But to paraphrase what Obama said, on election day, people won't compare him to the almighty, they'll compare him to the alternative. He'll win.
 
2011-12-17 07:49:31 PM
Weaver95: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I'm trying to imagine what kind of lunatic Romney will have as a running mate to woo the base in the general.

Romney isn't going to get the GOP nomination - the evangelicals will never endorse him.


So it's Newt? He's CATHOLIC...for now.
 
2011-12-17 07:49:59 PM
The best thing Obama could do to improve this nation's economy is to announce he will not be running for a second term. We'd see improvements overnight.
 
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