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2011-12-17 02:50:57 AM
When I finally got around to checking my credit report, I found over 10 different people's accounts on it.

/Luckily for me, they all had good credit.

//Took FOREVER to get it straightened out with all three credit agencies.

///771 credit score now.
 
2011-12-17 06:37:14 AM
I found myself linked to someone I'd never met on one of those reports and after some investigation it turned out to be a guy that rented a house I had lived in 15 years ago. I don't place a lot of value on those reports.
 
2011-12-17 07:07:12 AM
FTA Companies that run background checks sometimes blame weather. Ann Lane says her investigations firm, Carolina Investigative Research, in North Carolina, has endured hurricanes and ice storms that knocked out power to her computers and took them out of sync with court computers.

While computers are offline, critical updates to files can be missed. That can cause one person's records to fall into another person's file, Lane says. She says glitches show up in her database at least once a year.


WTF?
 
2011-12-17 07:12:34 AM
Translation: the reports arent worth shiat.
 
2011-12-17 07:13:35 AM
These online reports anyone can get kinda creep me out, but mostly because what my mother did.

When my dad got remarried 15+ years after the divorce, my mother found out because my sister had to open her fat mouth.

My mother paid to get a full on report run on my dad's new wife. Listings of property, how much was owed on them, the tax payments, I mean just about everything on her, and then confronted ME about the information she found and tried to put a bad spin on it.

I lost a lot of respect for my mother that day, and don't think she can gain it back.
 
2011-12-17 07:16:08 AM
The more you eat the more you fart: Translation: the reports arent worth shiat.

No kidding. I worked in staffing for awhile and had to run criminal background checks on everyone that worked through the door. I could run the same name three times and get three different results.

The worst was running a check on a known murderer and having his record come back clean.
 
2011-12-17 07:19:11 AM
Oh when I get a criminal record check I know it's mine, because I know what I've been convicted of, and I have to go to the police station for fingerprint verification every time anyone wants a copy of the report.

Crossing the border is another story (even before I had a record) though because there's a woman with the same name as me who had a bunch of outstanding warrants in Florida and Texas, and since I don't have an SSN they can't cross check that to prove I'm not her.
 
2011-12-17 07:21:58 AM
If you are not willing to do the time.... What? Oh, wait. Never mind.
 
2011-12-17 07:25:44 AM
Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.
 
2011-12-17 07:26:16 AM
Those reports are total BS.

I was only helping that sheep through the fence...
 
2011-12-17 07:31:01 AM
What's cool is to have the opposite of Ms. Casey happen to you - your true bad record falls through the cracks and comes back spotless.
 
2011-12-17 07:33:38 AM
redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

Sez the guy flying a plane built in the USA. BTW, get your teeth cleaned.
 
2011-12-17 07:37:33 AM
redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

The U.K. is still in the lead.
 
2011-12-17 07:40:56 AM
Mock26: If you are not willing to do the time.... What? Oh, wait. Never mind.

If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about...
 
2011-12-17 07:47:33 AM
Red Shirt Blues: redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

Sez the guy flying a plane built in the USA. BTW, get your teeth cleaned.


images.icanhascheezburger.com
 
2011-12-17 07:48:11 AM
I think this was the reason a girl decided not to see me any more. I really don't remember because I was black-out drunk most of the time we spent together. Lesbian.
 
2011-12-17 07:51:28 AM
t2.gstatic.com
 
2011-12-17 07:56:05 AM
NOVanHelsing: Mock26: If you are not willing to do the time.... What? Oh, wait. Never mind.

If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about...


Did you actually read TFA?

The thing is, these problems don't affect the people selling or using the bad info, so there's little incentive for them to commit the extra work and cost in fixing the problem. It will probably take major legislation to fix this, but again, since the problem minimally impacts the people who are able to fix it, there's no hurry.
 
2011-12-17 07:57:24 AM
wagnerism: Those reports are total BS.

I was only helping that sheep through the fence...


A good lawyer could get that reduced to "following too closely."
 
2011-12-17 07:58:34 AM
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Did you actually read TFA?

Either your sarcasm meter is broken or my snark is off...
 
2011-12-17 08:13:16 AM
"It's like Jurassic Park..."

No, if it were like Jurassic Park, the lawyers would get eaten by a T-Rex (while porta-johnning it up) and we wouldn't have to worry about this pile of stupid.
 
2011-12-17 08:21:57 AM
NOVanHelsing: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Did you actually read TFA?

Either your sarcasm meter is broken or my snark is off...


It can be hard to tell these days, especially with the number of troll accounts here.
 
2011-12-17 08:23:07 AM
FTA: "It is a system in which the most sensitive information from people's pasts is bought and sold as a commodity."

THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

C'mon TeaKlan assholes, rationalize this in your worship of that unregulated, unfettered, capitalist free market Kult.
 
2011-12-17 08:32:19 AM
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: The thing is, these problems don't affect the people selling or using the bad info, so there's little incentive for them to commit the extra work and cost in fixing the problem.

This. And the main reason so many employers do background checks is for liability reasons -- this is all driven by the courts, not by employment as such. It's now so easy to do a background check that not doing one can be construed as a failure of due diligence, and therefore negligent.

So businesses pay for the background to cover their insurance liability. The End. If the insurance companies and civil courts don't care if the reports are accurate, then employers won't care either. This isn't about not hiring criminals. It's about not getting sued because of hiring criminals.
 
2011-12-17 08:32:40 AM
redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

The USA is a corrupt and terrible country. It's just a shame every other country sucks more.
 
2011-12-17 08:38:26 AM
redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

Yup. It's absurd that we live in a country that allows billion-dollar con men crash the economy with their theft and walk around free while, simultaneously, fretting over whether its new checkout girl might have shop lifted once to such an extent that we have a whole inept private spy industry dedicated to finding that out. We're a nation of farking thieves, so worried that some other thief might snatch a piece of our kitsch-stash that we've made legal mockery of the idea that anyone has a right to keep their life to themselves.
 
2011-12-17 08:39:47 AM
Heron: redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

Yup. It's absurd that we live in a country that allows billion-dollar con men to crash the economy ...


Bah!
FTFM
 
2011-12-17 08:40:50 AM
NOVanHelsing: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Did you actually read TFA?

Either your sarcasm meter is broken or my snark is off...


Yeah, that occurred to me, about two seconds after I committed it. Just yesterday, someone in the HOTY thread said that Fark needs a delayed-abort feature, similar to GMail's option for that. At times like this, I agree. Though it would not be the first time I missed what later seemed like obvious sarcasm or humour. I've embarrassed myself much worse than this in the past, and surely will again.
 
2011-12-17 08:40:59 AM
Credit checks, background checks, all CYA in an increasingly CYA-world. Slowly it will become impossible to go on good judgement and responsibility.
 
2011-12-17 08:44:41 AM
These are also used when renting a house or apartment.
 
2011-12-17 08:47:23 AM
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I've embarrassed myself much worse than this in the past, and surely will again.

If I had $1 for every time that has happened to me I would be worth THOUSANDS!!!
 
2011-12-17 08:49:01 AM
RandomAxe: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: The thing is, these problems don't affect the people selling or using the bad info, so there's little incentive for them to commit the extra work and cost in fixing the problem.

This. And the main reason so many employers do background checks is for liability reasons -- this is all driven by the courts, not by employment as such. It's now so easy to do a background check that not doing one can be construed as a failure of due diligence, and therefore negligent.

So businesses pay for the background to cover their insurance liability. The End. If the insurance companies and civil courts don't care if the reports are accurate, then employers won't care either. This isn't about not hiring criminals. It's about not getting sued because of hiring criminals.


You just reminded me of an employer I had who told me that I'd have to piss in a hat for them, which I knew would happen eventually. Knowing it would come out stems and seeds, I expressed some disappointment, but they reassured me by managing to convey -- without saying so in so many words -- that they only required the test itself, so that they could tell people they did it. They didn't actually care about the results, and for reasons of privacy (HIPPA and such) couldn't be compelled to reveal them even if they did.

I soon realised that this is a very common practice: A huge number of employers that require drug tests don't care what the results are, only that they can say that they drug-test their employers. I suppose that could expose them to liability, but I think it falls short of any express claim of responsibility for the results.
 
2011-12-17 08:57:07 AM
redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

Damn man! Get thee to a dentist and an orthodontist! EEEEWWWWWW!
 
2011-12-17 09:02:24 AM
Coming on a Bicycle: Credit checks, background checks, all CYA in an increasingly CYA-world. Slowly it will become impossible to go on good judgement and responsibility.

I came in at the ramp-up of all these pre-everything checks. The fact is. people ten years younger than me couldn't find either good judgement or responsibility (much less make an intuitive decision) if it hit them in the ass.

Once we were tool inventors, and now we are tool users. Half the 20 somethings in my place of employment can't change a mouse...
 
2011-12-17 09:07:00 AM
oh Fark! Is it early?

www.famous-item.com
 
2011-12-17 09:12:14 AM
When I threatened to drop my car insurance and sue them for using my ex wife's info against me, it's amazing how fast their tune changed... And no, I didn't get a refund for the over charging me... Which is why I dropped them in the end, after I found better insurance.

But that's only 1 small piece of the pie. When your potential landlord looks at a history and sees your son's 3 felony arrests on YOUR record and refuses to let you move in, does he have to tell you why? Nope. Just that he refused to let you move in, and you're still without a place to stay... Lather, Rinse, repeat...

This will not get "fixed" until it happens to some "lawmaker" or their close relative, then they will write a knee jerk reaction of a bill and claim it's "For the people's protection" even though all it will do is provide new loopholes that won't fix anything...

And yes, I work in a job where any future problems with my history WILL be held against me... lol
 
2011-12-17 09:13:12 AM
I man I worked with was hired after his background check came back clean. After some time on the job he, along with the rest of us, was rechecked. This time it came back with his true record. The dude just disappeared from work one day. I asked my supervisor, "What happened to Derick?". Supervisor said, "Derick?". "Yeah, Derick. Dude who sat in the next cubicle to me.", says I. My supervisor just looked up from under his reading classes and said in a very matter of fact way , "Derrick had an FBI problem." That was the last I heard about it.
 
2011-12-17 09:24:21 AM
If her unemployment benefits had been cut off after 6 months this never would have happened. I don't know why liberals keep trying to help people, when all they ever do is make things worse.
 
2011-12-17 09:49:37 AM
Fissile: I man I worked with was hired after his background check came back clean. After some time on the job he, along with the rest of us, was rechecked. This time it came back with his true record. The dude just disappeared from work one day. I asked my supervisor, "What happened to Derick?". Supervisor said, "Derick?". "Yeah, Derick. Dude who sat in the next cubicle to me.", says I. My supervisor just looked up from under his reading classes and said in a very matter of fact way , "Derrick had an FBI problem." That was the last I heard about it.

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What Derick's supervisor might look like.
 
2011-12-17 09:54:46 AM
redcliffe: Yet another example of how the USA is the arsehole of the world. It'll be funny when the USA is the somalia of the west.

Yeah, but at least we have good dentists.
 
2011-12-17 10:15:35 AM
While computers are offline, critical updates to files can be missed. That can cause one person's records to fall into another person's file, Lane says. She says glitches show up in her database at least once a year.

Having people like this handling the data is probably a big part of the problem.
 
2011-12-17 10:18:51 AM
I knew I wasn't being completely paranoid when I was vaguely afraid that I would be mistaken for a child molester or something on one of the many background checks I've had to have done in the last few years. And that's farked.
 
2011-12-17 10:24:13 AM
NOVanHelsing: Mock26: If you are not willing to do the time.... What? Oh, wait. Never mind.

If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about...


:-D
 
2011-12-17 10:34:01 AM
On the one hand, public information is public information. Oh noes, someone has my public information? Whatever.

On the other hand, that public information needs to be accurate. And too often (as demonstrated in this thread) it is not. Since these companies make more money off inaccuracy, it will never change.
 
2011-12-17 11:18:23 AM
apoptotic: Oh when I get a criminal record check I know it's mine, because I know what I've been convicted of, and I have to go to the police station for fingerprint verification every time anyone wants a copy of the report.

This is what bugs me.

If I want a copy of my own criminal record, I need to go get fingerprinted, pay a lot of money, and then it's illegal for me to show it to a potential employer (at least in California).

However, any business can pay a few bucks and get it all. But, those background check companies won't sell someone their own data.
 
2011-12-17 11:27:06 AM
This is why my kids are named Xyzzy and Spam-Pizza.
 
2011-12-17 11:32:31 AM
The more you eat the more you fart: Translation: the reports arent worth shiat.

Yeah. When my husband and I first started renting out our old place, we talked to a woman who'd owned a lot of rental properties over the years. She said not to bother running a background check. The important thing was to tell potential tenants you were running one, and then ask if there was anything that would come up that they wanted to explain. Guaranteed if there was anything they knew about, they brought it up so that they could then tell their side of it.
 
2011-12-17 11:45:08 AM
Semi related story:

Idaho tried to collect child support from me. I had lived there for a few months after high school, but moved back to Montana in less then a year. I know the kid isn't mine, I mean I don't know the woman (and oh yeah I was a virgin at the time).

So yeah this shiat happens.
 
2011-12-17 11:56:16 AM
LordOfThePings: This is why my kids are named Xyzzy and Spam-Pizza.

Ran them. FICOs came back with no trade lines, but Spam-Pizza was holding the pepperoni in WV last year.
 
2011-12-17 12:18:29 PM
Deathfrogg: FTA: "It is a system in which the most sensitive information from people's pasts is bought and sold as a commodity."

THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

C'mon TeaKlan assholes, rationalize this in your worship of that unregulated, unfettered, capitalist free market Kult.


Stop getting into trouble and you have no record to worry about.......you can be a model citizen or an asshole. I call it free market citizenship.
 
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