I'm more surprised this is news because of the silly counting system they are using. Chrome, combining all the versions, has beat a single version of IE. How impressive. Unless you combine all the versions of IE, in which case Chrome is in distant second.

Maybe mlb.com will finally adapt their video players so I can watch the whole screen instead of a quarter of it.

FFS, who CARES. Even the freaking xbox vs ps3 argument there's something to discuss about the merits.

Speaking of Chrome, anyone know of a decent download manager plugin? Chrome's non-existent download management is its worst aspect, IMHO.

Grables'Daughter: I am honestly very surprised that this would even be a noteworthy issue.

I, myself, am not very computer savvy at all, yet I honestly don't know anyone that uses Internet Explorer to my knowledge.

Not everyone uses it by choice, some large corporations will use it, and nothing else, because it works with whatever software they use.

One of the largest customers of the company I work for, still use IE6. So I have to design for IE6, which is challenging, to say the least.

Also, a lot of people who use accessibility aids have the same issue, they won't upgrade their browser because it might also mean having having to upgrade their accessibility software, and that can be very expensive - JAWS (screen reader) for example is the best part of $1000, and an upgrade could cost $200 or more, that could be prohibitive for someone on disability.

I consider myself computer savvy and I use IE. I also love Win7 and Win7.5 mobile is far superior to that funny Siri stuff apple is putting out.

Bhruic: I'm more surprised this is news because of the silly counting system they are using. Chrome, combining all the versions, has beat a single version of IE. How impressive. Unless you combine all the versions of IE, in which case Chrome is in distant second.

Chrome auto-updates so users are generally always on the latest version. You get far less version fragmentation happening in Chrome than you do in IE.

I notice how they bash Microsoft for bundleing IE with its OS, but don't ding Chrome for being an auto-checked install with a lot of popular programs, like Adobe, and we know most people donn't uncheck those things cause if they did, there there wouldn't be so many crap toolbars installed out there that are never used.

Grables'Daughter: I am honestly very surprised that this would even be a noteworthy issue.

I, myself, am not very computer savvy at all, yet I honestly don't know anyone that uses Internet Explorer to my knowledge.

I've actually recently switched back to IE from Chrome. Chrome freezes up too often for me. Bass ackwards, I know.

A pox on both their houses.

The company i work for also uses IE. We have Firefox but it does not work with our programs that I use.

So what's driving the growth? Aodhan Cullen, chief executive of StatCounter, says businesses as well as consumers are adopting Chrome.

Not to mention it is bundled with many freeware downloads. Most people just click through the screens when installing the app and don't realize they've installed Chrome until they see the icon on their desktop.

entropic_existence: Chrome auto-updates so users are generally always on the latest version. You get far less version fragmentation happening in Chrome than you do in IE.

True, but it has that luxury. In many settings, auto-updating a browser is a big no-no.

Grables'Daughter: LL316: Grables'Daughter: I am honestly very surprised that this would even be a noteworthy issue.

I, myself, am not very computer savvy at all, yet I honestly don't know anyone that uses Internet Explorer to my knowledge.

I've actually recently switched back to IE from Chrome. Chrome freezes up too often for me. Bass ackwards, I know.

I've never had that happen, myself.

I love Chrome, and found IE to be slow.

/just my .02

I think that's the general concensus. No idea why my situation is the opposite. I, too, am not computer savvy.

LL316: I think that's the general concensus. No idea why my situation is the opposite. I, too, am not computer savvy.

there's on ongoing bug with Chrome having that exact problem. Closing one tab causes the others to hang. I believe you can go in and manually kill the process for the closing tab and unhang the rest of them.

On a netbook, Firefox has an annoying tendency to eat up all my memory. Is there a decent browser that won't eat up ~200MB of RAM during a 5-tab session?

IE sucks. I'm never using it again after having the soul-sucking job of developing cross-compatible pages and apps for IE6/FF. When IE7/8 came out, they weren't much better (AND I had to develop for compatibility with ALL of them! Fun times), so I have totally lost faith that the MS browser will ever be any good.

I honestly don't care if IE9 comes pre-loaded with Google Maps of every famous chick on my List and their signed consent for hot, nasty group sex. I'd assume they weren't standards-compliant anyway, or I'd have to wear an adaptive condom, or pre-check what genitalia they had before deciding what kind of sex I'm gonna have with them...

Win 7 and IE 8 work fine. I'm as big of a nerd as anyone and I prefer it to Chrome, Safari, Firefox...
I've tried them all.

Not that any of them are bad, just not that big of deal.

Fish in a Barrel: Speaking of Chrome, anyone know of a decent download manager plugin? Chrome's non-existent download management is its worst aspect, IMHO.

Serious question: what do people need with a "download manager"? In the old days of slow, unreliable connections I could see it, but unless you're downloading a metric shiatton of pr0n, what's the use? Most stuff I download finishes in seconds; even a full legal installation of Microsoft Office from their licensing site took only a few minutes, without error.

Dr Dreidel: Is there a decent browser that won't eat up ~200MB of RAM during a 5-tab session?

With laptops and computers these days having 8 gigs or more, does it matter?

/serious question

Grables'Daughter: I am honestly very surprised that this would even be a noteworthy issue.

I, myself, am not very computer savvy at all, yet I honestly don't know anyone that uses Internet Explorer to my knowledge.

We have systems that run exclusively on IE, and other big corps do as well.

"Serious question: what do people need with a "download manager"?"

You are obviously not a Comcast customer. I see connection hangs and drop-outs every few minutes. Unfortunately, no alternative here.

Need a Dispenser Here: Dr Dreidel: Is there a decent browser that won't eat up ~200MB of RAM during a 5-tab session?

With laptops and computers these days having 8 gigs or more, does it matter?

/serious question

I started by saying it's a netbook. A 2-year old Acer, at that. 1GB of RAM and a single (Atom) core. I want a browser that won't sweat when I browse Fark.

Navigator 3.0 Gold.

Dr Dreidel: On a netbook, Firefox has an annoying tendency to eat up all my memory. Is there a decent browser that won't eat up ~200MB of RAM during a 5-tab session?

Same problem here. I'll get a notification even in a 2-tab session, and that's even with an auto-memory optimizer (FreeRAM XP Pro) installed.

LarryDan43: Navigator 3.0 Gold.

Bloatware. I'll stick with Mosaic, thankyouverymuch.

Grables'Daughter: Cormee: Grables'Daughter: I am honestly very surprised that this would even be a noteworthy issue.

I, myself, am not very computer savvy at all, yet I honestly don't know anyone that uses Internet Explorer to my knowledge.

Not everyone uses it by choice, some large corporations will use it, and nothing else, because it works with whatever software they use.

One of the largest customers of the company I work for, still use IE6. So I have to design for IE6, which is challenging, to say the least.

Also, a lot of people who use accessibility aids have the same issue, they won't upgrade their browser because it might also mean having having to upgrade their accessibility software, and that can be very expensive - JAWS (screen reader) for example is the best part of $1000, and an upgrade could cost $200 or more, that could be prohibitive for someone on disability.

Okay, I see your points.

Plus you have to take into the account that you have to install Chrome separately - so there are tons of people that have computers that came with IE and have no idea that there are alternatives out there, let alone know how to take the steps to install a new browser.

Just got a new laptop (Lenovo), and a relative purchased one two months ago (Toshiba). Both came with Chrome pre-installed, and a short-cut on the taskbar.

/I use IE, FF, and Chrome.

flaminio: Fish in a Barrel: Speaking of Chrome, anyone know of a decent download manager plugin? Chrome's non-existent download management is its worst aspect, IMHO.

Serious question: what do people need with a "download manager"? In the old days of slow, unreliable connections I could see it, but unless you're downloading a metric shiatton of pr0n, what's the use? Most stuff I download finishes in seconds; even a full legal installation of Microsoft Office from their licensing site took only a few minutes, without error.

Most stuff, yes. But when I'm downloading a Linux ISO, a large installers, etc., it's really obnoxious. I want them off in a separate window so I can close the browser without killing the download.

What really annoys me, though, is the complete lack of indication that Chrome is trying to connect and start the download. I click on a download link, and nothing happens. So I think, "maybe I mis-clicked," and I click again. Seconds later both downloads pop up in the DL bar. The aggravation this causes me is, admittedly, far greater than the magnitude of the actual problem.

Crap. I've been using chrome for years. Now I am going to have to find another browser that isn't so popular.

Bhruic: entropic_existence: Chrome auto-updates so users are generally always on the latest version. You get far less version fragmentation happening in Chrome than you do in IE.

True, but it has that luxury. In many settings, auto-updating a browser is a big no-no.

Of course, and I wasn't commenting on that at all. Just responding to a claim that the counting method was flawed because it was comparing "all versions of Chrome" to just IE 8. Because of auto-updating most installed versions of chrome should be the newest version, or very close to it (minor version number differences).

I use IE - when I install a Windows virtual machine, first thing I do is fire up IE to download... Firefox.

Dr Dreidel: On a netbook, Firefox has an annoying tendency to eat up all my memory. Is there a decent browser that won't eat up ~200MB of RAM during a 5-tab session?
This, though. Firefox uses up memory like it's going out of style. It seems Flash is a major offender (the used memory goes way up as soon as that Flash plugin gets called for any reason) but it's just crazy.

I usually have far more than five tabs open, and while I try to shut Firefox off every so often, it can slow things to the point where I have to whip out my -9 and kill it.

All the upgrades don't seem to be helping much, either.

/still, there's certain add-ons I rely on, so don't want to just jump ship on it...

Grables'Daughter: I am honestly very surprised that this would even be a noteworthy issue.

I, myself, am not very computer savvy at all, yet I honestly don't know anyone that uses Internet Explorer to my knowledge.

You use version B of IE. Thank the Lord!

Cormee: Grables'Daughter: I am honestly very surprised that this would even be a noteworthy issue.

I, myself, am not very computer savvy at all, yet I honestly don't know anyone that uses Internet Explorer to my knowledge.

Not everyone uses it by choice, some large corporations will use it, and nothing else, because it works with whatever software they use.

One of the largest customers of the company I work for, still use IE6. So I have to design for IE6, which is challenging, to say the least.

Also, a lot of people who use accessibility aids have the same issue, they won't upgrade their browser because it might also mean having having to upgrade their accessibility software, and that can be very expensive - JAWS (screen reader) for example is the best part of $1000, and an upgrade could cost $200 or more, that could be prohibitive for someone on disability.

Why, why, why did you have to mention JAWS?

/curls up in the fetal position and sobs

DanZero: [battle of the browsers]
Heh. Right click, save...

Dr Dreidel: Need a Dispenser Here: Dr Dreidel: Is there a decent browser that won't eat up ~200MB of RAM during a 5-tab session?

With laptops and computers these days having 8 gigs or more, does it matter?

/serious question

I started by saying it's a netbook. A 2-year old Acer, at that. 1GB of RAM and a single (Atom) core. I want a browser that won't sweat when I browse Fark.

Ah. In other words, reading comprehension fail on my part. I've got an Asus netbook with 2 gigs that I primarily just use for lectures, but if you do find this magical browser, let me know.

MilesTeg: Win 7 and IE 8 work fine. I'm as big of a nerd as anyone and I prefer it to Chrome, Safari, Firefox...
I've tried them all.

Not that any of them are bad, just not that big of deal.

There is a difference between a nerd and a geek. You exemplify it well.

Need a Dispenser Here: Ah. In other words, reading comprehension fail on my part. I've got an Asus netbook with 2 gigs that I primarily just use for lectures, but if you do find this magical browser, let me know.

My home desktop has 2 gigs and that's the limit (yes, it's ooooold old old, hoping to get a new one in the next year) and pretty much is just used for web browsing at this point (for the big screen). I've got a more powerful laptop for actual computing.

Is it too late in the thread to jump on the fark IE bandwagon?

I still have a browser hijacker on IE that will. not. go. away. I've run spybot, adaware, hijackthis, cwshredder and gone through four or five websites worth of suggested registry sweeps looking for rogue entries. No processes are running that I don't exactly what they are, no startup or services registry keys and nothing out of ordinary in my hosts file. Yet every other click on a google search link still takes me to a random bogus site. I'm starting to think the only way is to purge it with fire.

No problems with firefox though.