TimeWaste: And we're done.

Yup. Over.

you know, submitter, i used to make fun of them, too... until i bought one (i'm on my second 3-series). and i will admit to feeling a bit douche-y just driving it, so i try to be extra-courteous on the road. and i really hate it when i see another BMW driver cut somebody off or otherwise acting assholish. but, goddamn, they drive better than just about any other car out there.

/gym in 26 minutes, etc.

They're great cars, but I don't understand why they don't have turn signals on them.

some people have money to spend on expensive cars. some people think that's valuable. I'm not ready to call BMW owners douches just because they own BMWs. It's a luxury car at a premium price.

I feel comfortable calling hummer owners douches though. it's a utility car at a premium price. that's just silly. that's like spending a mansion price on a trailer (and being proud of yourself afterwards).

/ doesn't have a car... my kia went swimming one day when it rained too hard.
// I don't really care that much about cars; I would not buy an expensive car because it is too much of a liability. I dislike exposing my economic value to strangers because I do not want to attract criminal minded entrepreneurs to alter the effects of my possessions.
// but, BMW owners do not bother me unless they are younger than me... then they are douches. I mean, I'm 30... someone in their 20s should not have a BMW.

Odd Bird: Cheron:
You nailed it. I think the major problem is other people expect us to be douches act like we've insulted them. Since I got my M3 - with the black Novillo leather and performance package (no duel duAl clutch I do know who to drive) - I've had the worst time with tailgaters. This morning I was just driving along listening to the premium sound system minding my own business and this driver in a Taurus was all over me. I swear no matter what I did he couldn't have been more than a foot from my front bumper.

If that's a troll, I'll give you 9.2 (9.5 - .3 for the typo).
If it's not a troll, you're a douche.

/I kid. sort of....

when I read this, I thought troll the moment the leather came up. but, this is some new, subtle form of troll, the likes of which fark has not seen before... there's trolldom inherent, but a gentle delivery and inoffense subject matter that beguiles the unsuspecting farker.

this new evil... it's an evil born of the void between fark and snark. makes me think of words like riparian, although that word has absolutely no relevance here. I just like it, and I usually think of riparian (the word) when unforeseen evil of a subtle nature arrives. perhaps that betrays my distrust of river beds and the difficulty of classifying their owners when the river is navigable.

The thing that really annoys me about BMW owners is that 99% of them NEVER wash their cars. I swear, 9/10 BMWs I see on the road (almost all of which are black or silver for some reason) are caked in dirt, usually have lots of swirl marks, and have 10 pounds of brake dust on the rims.

When I used to work as a car detailer, every BMW we ever worked on was just as described - filthy. FFS, you pay that much for a car, wash it!.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Handsome B. Wonderful: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Handsome B. Wonderful: BMWs aren't driven by douches. They're driving by assholes who think certain traffic rules don't apply to them, like signalling to change lanes, or speed limits, or stopping for red lights.

I want one.

So, BMW drivers are dealing with assholes who don't follow the rules?

Oops... that too

To be fair, the majority of Texans (BMW and non-BMW drivers alike) exhibit these traits.

really? I thought Texas (save Houston) had pretty conscientious, but slow drivers. you want asshat drivers, try south florida.

dumbobruni: it doesn't seem like anyone has noticed, but the new BMW 5-Series comes standard with a 4 cylinder engine.

/loves me some efficient dynamics

i bought an m-sport 328 this year, mainly because i wanted to get the last of the normally aspirated straight sixes for which BMW has been known for 40 years. i could've bought a 335, but i opted for the non-turbo, and i'm glad i did (plus, it allowed me to get all the optional extras i wanted).

i'm sure BMW's 4-bangers are awesome. but there's just something about a straight six...

scut207: 3 series outshines the competition in road feel, and the inline 6 is damn near bulletproof. IMHO the power assisted steering makes the A4 and the 350 feel like a cheap car.

yup. my old 3-series (a 2001), was a fantastic car that was barely broken in when i traded it in at 140,000 miles. when looking for a new vehicle, i test drove mercedes c-class and an audi a-4. neither came close to the fit, finish and feel of the 3-series.

the only shiatty thing was, i had to order mine, because nobody drives sticks here in the US anymore. but a 6-speed mated to a straight-6 bimmer is a recipe for driving heaven.

FlashHarry: the only shiatty thing was, i had to order mine, because nobody drives sticks here in the US anymore.

/www.whitewhine.com

The Dog Ate My Homework: I used to have a BMW. It was a great car except for the part about how it needed constant expensive maintenance.

it also depends on the series. the 5 and 7 series are notorious for needing maintenance. the 3 series tends to be much more reliable. toyota reliable? no. but more so than VW, audi, mercedes and just about any american car. but, yes, it requires regular maintenance.

one of the reasons i bought new was the free scheduled maintenance for 4 years (i upped it to 6).