It's time again to show why you shouldn't give money to the Salvation Army but a less bigoted charity.

Since 1986 the Salvation Army has engaged in five major assaults on the LGBT community's civil rights and attempted to carve out exemptions that would allow them to deny gays and lesbians needed services as well as employment.

•When New Zealand considered passage of the Homosexual Law Reform Act in 1986, the Salvation Army collected signatures in an attempt to get the legislation killed. The act decriminalized consensual sex between gay men. The measure passed over the charity's objections.
•In the United Kingdom, the Salvation Army actively pushed passage of an amendment to the Local Government Act. The amendment stated that local authorities "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship." The law has since been repealed, but it led many schools and colleges to close LGBT student organizations out of fear they'd lose their government funding.
•In 2001, the organization tried to extract a resolution from the White House that they could ignore local non-discrimination laws that protected LGBT people. While the commitment would have applied to all employees, the group claimed that it needed the resolution so it "did not have to ordain sexually active gay ministers and did not have to provide medical benefits to the same-sex partners of employees." After lawmakers and civil rights activists revealed the Salvation Army's active resistance to non-discrimination laws, the White House admitted the charity was seeking the exemptions.
•Also in 2001, the evangelical charity actively lobbied to change how the Bush administration would distribute over $24 billion in grants and tax deductions by urging the White House deny funding to any cities or states that included LGBT non-discrimination laws. Ari Fleischer, White House press secretary, issued a statement saying the administration was denying a "regulation sought by the church to protect the right of taxpayer-funded religious organizations to discriminate against homosexuals."
•In 2004, the Salvation Army threatened to close all their soup kitchens in New York City to protest the city's decision to require all vendors and charities doing business with the city to adhere to all civil rights laws. The organization balked at having to treat gay employees equal to straight employees.

But I bet those same people are the ones scouring the internet, looking for lesbian porn.

stpauler: It's time again to show why you shouldn't give money to the Salvation Army but a less bigoted charity.

thanks for posting this. was coming in to say something similar (albeit less informative).

CCCarnie: The Salvation Army is a Christian organization. Christians believe homosexuality is wrong and immoral. So if you expect them to treat homosexuals as equals, you are going to be extremely disappointed.

However, if the fact that they are a Christian organization bothers you, then of course you should feel free to donate elsewhere.

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Syllogism doesn't work apparently.

/Atheist anyways.

Love those photos, stpauler. of course, being a real Christian means loving everyone, regardless of sexual orientation or whatever.

On that note, my charity of choice for clothing donations etc. is Housing Works.^

CCCarnie: stpauler: It's time again to show why you shouldn't give money to the Salvation Army but a less bigoted charity.

Random facts pointing out that the Salvation Army is against gays and lesbians

The Salvation Army is a Christian organization. Christians believe homosexuality is wrong and immoral. So if you expect them to treat homosexuals as equals, you are going to be extremely disappointed.

However, if the fact that they are a Christian organization bothers you, then of course you should feel free to donate elsewhere.



That's funny.

I thought Christians were suppose to believe and try to behave like Jesus Christ. I don't remember Christ hating, excluding, or treating groups of people as less than equal to even his self. If the son of God can put aside any of their moral failings and still be glad to help then shouldn't his followers?

He even said something about it. "Therefore all things you would that men should do unto you, do you even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets"



So, unlike what certain groups of Christians want everyone to think, being a Christian organization doesn't mean they should be treating gays or anyone else any differently. In fact, being Christian means they should be treating everyone with a love and kindness Jesus Christ showed.


So it's not that they're Christians that bothers most people. It's the fact that they are homosexual bigots of the highest order who cloak themselves in Christianity in order to justify that bigotry and hatred. they are the furthers thing from Christians as they can possibly be.

CCCarnie: Ika7734: CCCarnie: stpauler: It's time again to show why you shouldn't give money to the Salvation Army but a less bigoted charity.

Random facts pointing out that the Salvation Army is against gays and lesbians

The Salvation Army is a Christian organization. Christians believe homosexuality is wrong and immoral. So if you expect them to treat homosexuals as equals, you are going to be extremely disappointed.

However, if the fact that they are a Christian organization bothers you, then of course you should feel free to donate elsewhere.

There are other christian organizations that don't discriminate, so saying that's why they wont help gays is stupid. I don't think Jesus asked the lepers if they were gay before he helped them out. I don't think he said "everyone gets wine except for that flaming whoopsie over there!"

It is what it is. I'm not saying what they're doing is right... I'm just saying homosexuality is considered a sin and many Christians discriminate because of that. At this point, when I hear "Christian organization", I pretty much assume they have an issue with homosexuals.

Also, I just pictured Jesus saying "flaming whoopsie" and had a good chuckle.

I happen to be Christian, but unlike some, I do not go out of my way to judge (at least I try not to), because the way I look at it, I have enough mistakes in my own life I need to correct, before I can go around correcting others.

That's just my personal philosophy

Something else I have heard are the Salvation Army 'bell-ringers' are not volunteers, but make as much as $10.00 an hour

Could be wrong, but that's what I have heard, more than once

justadadX3: So what we learned here is that if someone disagrees w/ something we feel strongly about, even if they do good and help a lot of people - fark them - they deserve to die (preferably in a fire) - and fark the poor farkers that they help too.

Benevolent acts can still not mitigate assholishness

justadadX3: stpauler: justadadX3: So what we learned here is that if someone disagrees w/ something we feel strongly about, even if they do good and help a lot of people - fark them - they deserve to die (preferably in a fire) - and fark the poor farkers that they help too.

Benevolent acts can still not mitigate assholishness
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SA: Feed homeless, help people get clean and sober, provide food - clothing - shelter - to any in need, provide job training, etc.

KKK: Lynching, cross-burning, acts of violence, intimidation, etc.

Yeah - sounds like they are pretty much the same - my bad.

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justadadX3

Sound pretty similar to me too.