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(The FW)   Good Grief! Ten things you didn't know about "A Charlie Brown Christmas"   (thefw.com) divider line 143
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2011-12-16 07:39:28 AM  
The one about how some of the kids were too young to read the script explains a few things.
 
2011-12-16 07:40:36 AM  
That was interesting and thank you for having all that on one page!
 
2011-12-16 07:43:55 AM  
Of all the Charlie Brown's in the world, he's still the Charlie Browniest.

/Guess we should always listen to the drunk guy - that's the moral I'm taking from this.
 
2011-12-16 07:46:06 AM  
Thanks,Chuck(especially for #3)!
 
2011-12-16 07:46:47 AM  
I saw the new special and I've gotta say that Schultz's kids/estate definitely get the spirit or Charlie Brown.

It was a little overboard on the female stereotyping, but it was dark, depressing, nihilistic and surrealistic. Like Camus, with puppies and children.
 
2011-12-16 07:47:12 AM  
That the show originally ran 25 minutes before it was butchered by advertisers into the 10 minute show we see today.
 
2011-12-16 08:01:56 AM  

ryarger: Like Camus, with puppies and children


So...Sartre, then?
 
2011-12-16 08:11:49 AM  
Somewhat related...
10 Peanuts Characters You've Probably Forgotten, a few of which are featured in this special

Click one FARK article, get one free...
 
2011-12-16 08:12:05 AM  
Lights, please?
 
2011-12-16 08:12:16 AM  
Watched it last night. Doesn't age well should have been no. 11.
 
2011-12-16 08:17:52 AM  

Gasconne: The one about how some of the kids were too young to read the script explains a few things.


Like why it is....that...in Charlie Brown cartoons...all the characters...speak like this.
 
2011-12-16 08:25:21 AM  
The way the kids speak in those cartoons is so bizarre but it would suck if it was any other way. And a laugh track? Wow.

It's very easy to imagine "Charlie Brown Christmas" if it was made today. Sounds like it was pretty lucky to be made as it was even back then.
 
2011-12-16 08:25:30 AM  
The first version of the special that aired on CBS not only included a brief announcement of Coca-Cola's sponsorship in the closing credits, but it also carried a product placement in the show's opening titles. As Charlie Brown and Linus are being tossed around by Snoopy while ice skating, Linus crashes head-on into a sign advertising the popular soda. The scene has since been cut due to expired advertising contracts and the sign was replaced with one that read "Danger." (Check out the original scene on the left.)

"Scene on the left" uses the "Danger" sign.
 
2011-12-16 08:26:33 AM  
Thanks for everything, Ole Chuck Brown. You and your pals never cease to brighten my day.
 
2011-12-16 08:27:13 AM  
TFA blocked at work for... pornography?

/wtf?
//there's something I didn't know about the Peanuts...
 
2011-12-16 08:28:05 AM  
Saw it last again night and still glad they kept the Luke part in - I'm not the least bit religious either.

I did not know the network brass and advertiser honchos disliked it so much. Money first as always. God takes a back seat.
 
2011-12-16 08:31:46 AM  

edmo: Saw it last again night and still glad they kept the Luke part in - I'm not the least bit religious either.

I did not know the network brass and advertiser honchos disliked it so much. Money first as always. God takes a back seat.


I'm not religious either, but I can't imagine the special without it.
 
2011-12-16 08:33:38 AM  
I get depressed the second I hear that damn music.
 
2011-12-16 08:35:14 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: TFA blocked at work for... pornography?

/wtf?
//there's something I didn't know about the Peanuts...


Mine, too. My head exploded at the thought of Peanuts Porn.
 
2011-12-16 08:35:19 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: TFA blocked at work for... pornography?

/wtf?
//there's something I didn't know about the Peanuts...


You know how Marcie keeps calling everyone 'sir'? There's a reason for that.
 
2011-12-16 08:36:28 AM  

Confabulat: It's very easy to imagine "Charlie Brown Christmas" if it was made today.


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2011-12-16 08:41:47 AM  

Brandyelf: Cheesehead_Dave: TFA blocked at work for... pornography?

/wtf?
//there's something I didn't know about the Peanuts...

Mine, too. My head exploded at the thought of Peanuts Porn.


has Rule 34 become obscure?
 
2011-12-16 08:42:44 AM  
The most successful commercial illustrator in history cricitizes the commercialization of Christmas.

In 1966.

I wonder what he'd have to say about the pepper-spraying Wal*Martians.
 
2011-12-16 08:45:22 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: TFA blocked at work for... pornography?

/wtf?
//there's something I didn't know about the Peanuts...


Ditto. Call from IT Security in 3...2...1...
 
2011-12-16 08:52:11 AM  

buster_v: The most successful commercial illustrator in history cricitizes the commercialization of Christmas.

In 1966.

I wonder what he'd have to say about the pepper-spraying Wal*Martians.


Yes, yes. A comic that features children suffering from depression and cripplingly social anxiety is essentially a commercial for toys.
 
2011-12-16 08:52:30 AM  
I've always wondered if the religious segments ever caused a stir. Every year I watch it and every year I'm struck by the odd and sudden shift in tone between the cynical party atmosphere and Linus' earnest recitation of an entire bible passage. Even being as anti-theistic as I am, it's easy to appreciate because it provides a stark contrast to the other kids and their "commercial" outlook on the whole thing. I may not be a fan of religion, but I'm even less a fan of commercial debauchery, and that scene is always a nice touch.

Their rendition at the end around the tree is just weird and misplaced though....

Brandyelf: Mine, too. My head exploded at the thought of Peanuts Porn.


You probably shouldn't Google that phrase then because I have some really bad news for you....
 
2011-12-16 08:53:50 AM  
The reason it "aged badly" is due to comparison to the stuff we have today, like the nauseating "Prep & Landing" and thoroughly stomach turning Shrek the Halls. 1965 production and television animation simply cannot compare to today's fare.

Back when we only had 13 TV channels, they would group the holiday specials into the last 2 weeks before Christmas, and as everybody and anybody did not have VCRs until the mid 90s, if you missed the shows you were screwed, as they didn't repeat.
 
2011-12-16 08:58:34 AM  
You know the scene where CB and Linus go to find a tree and Linus says something like "I suggest we try those (stitchlights/ditchlights/SOMEthing). What is he saying there? Is it "searchlights" and just came out odd? I've been wondering about this for at least 30 years.
 
2011-12-16 08:59:56 AM  

TimonC346: Watched it last night. Doesn't age well should have been no. 11.


Hey here's the thread's Scrooge
 
2011-12-16 09:02:08 AM  
The Vince Guaraldi Trio musical score didn't age badly, ya whippersnappers.
 
2011-12-16 09:03:23 AM  
And nothing can ever hold a candle to the kids' dancing prowess.
 
2011-12-16 09:06:03 AM  

sseye: I get depressed the second I hear that damn music.


The one they play on the radio with the kids singing? Gawd that is awful, I feel like turning my car into a tree every time. I have to change the station whenever that "Christmas Time is here" comes on.
 
2011-12-16 09:08:02 AM  

Splinshints: You probably shouldn't Google that phrase then because I have some really bad news for you....


Oh man, seriously?? I'm at work, but even if I was, I can't imagine Googling that because.... eew.
 
2011-12-16 09:09:11 AM  

Jerkwater: You know the scene where CB and Linus go to find a tree and Linus says something like "I suggest we try those (stitchlights/ditchlights/SOMEthing). What is he saying there? Is it "searchlights" and just came out odd? I've been wondering about this for at least 30 years.


They clearly said "Storchlights". Glad to help.

Merry Storching!!
//Storch, Storch Storch
/// I love to say "Storch".
 
2011-12-16 09:09:25 AM  

Mudd's woman: And nothing can ever hold a candle to the kids' dancing prowess.


Screw the "I can move like Jagger", I want to move like whomever the kid in the orange shirt is.
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2011-12-16 09:10:08 AM  
11. It's absolute dreck and should be pitched in the recycling bin.

I hated the Peanuts specials when I was a kid and I refuse subject my own kids to them now.
 
2011-12-16 09:10:24 AM  

Mudd's woman: And nothing can ever hold a candle to the kids' dancing prowess.


oblig
 
2011-12-16 09:10:41 AM  

gunga galunga: Gasconne: The one about how some of the kids were too young to read the script explains a few things.

Like why it is....that...in Charlie Brown cartoons...all the characters...speak like this.


It's a well know fact that William Shatner was the acting coach for many of the youngest tykes involved with this endearing production.
 
2011-12-16 09:14:57 AM  
Network execs didn't like a Christmas special because it has stuff about Christ in it. Coca-Cola wanted to put placement ads in a special that decries the commercialization of Christmas.

The Irony tag is strong with this one.
 
2011-12-16 09:15:10 AM  

Mudd's woman: And nothing can ever hold a candle to the kids' dancing prowess.



Ha HA...the kid in the orange shirt's punk-rock dance is classic! i wonder if it inspired some of the Mosh-pit stuff.

rewatch it and rember it was made in 1965ish...pretty cool.
 
2011-12-16 09:16:20 AM  

sseye: I get depressed the second I hear that damn music.


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2011-12-16 09:18:34 AM  

whiterrabbit: i wonder if it inspired some of the Mosh-pit stuff.


Hahha nice one!
 
2011-12-16 09:23:36 AM  
We have an awesome power...

/Obscure?
 
2011-12-16 09:24:14 AM  

wademh: Mudd's woman: And nothing can ever hold a candle to the kids' dancing prowess.

Screw the "I can move like Jagger", I want to move like whomever the kid in the orange shirt is.
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That's 5 .. the kid whose dad decided that since everyone was treated like a number, they might as well use numbers for names. The two girls in red dresses on either side of him are his twin sisters, 3 and 4. None of them appeared in any other Peanuts specials or movies after this .. though, 5 did pop-up in the comic strip, occasionally.
 
2011-12-16 09:26:54 AM  

wademh: Mudd's woman: And nothing can ever hold a candle to the kids' dancing prowess.

Screw the "I can move like Jagger", I want to move like whomever the kid in the orange shirt is.
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Ah, you have fine taste in dance moves.

/I used to practice dancing like that kid
//would break into it sometimes at parties
///people would recognize it immediately and get a good chuckle
 
2011-12-16 09:31:46 AM  

Violet Insinuendo: 11. It's absolute dreck and should be pitched in the recycling bin.

I hated the Peanuts specials when I was a kid and I refuse subject my own kids to them now.


2/10 - you may get some bites
 
2011-12-16 09:40:34 AM  
11. Charles Schultz was a sniper in the Green Berets and he took out thirteen Viet Cong at Guadalcanal. His catchphrase after taking out an enemy was "Sorry, Charlie" and that's how Charlie Brown got his name.
 
2011-12-16 09:41:30 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: sseye: I get depressed the second I hear that damn music.

The one they play on the radio with the kids singing? Gawd that is awful, I feel like turning my car into a tree every time. I have to change the station whenever that "Christmas Time is here" comes on.


Ya know, I typically hate the sound of children singing. It makes my teeth itch. But I really like this song. Although, the best song of the show is "Skating", bar none.

Violet Insinuendo: 11. It's absolute dreck and should be pitched in the recycling bin.

I hated the Peanuts specials when I was a kid and I refuse subject my own kids to them now.


Your soul is an appaling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of rubbish imaginable, mangled up in tangled up knots.
 
2011-12-16 09:43:56 AM  

fatkidinabeenie: Brandyelf: Cheesehead_Dave: TFA blocked at work for... pornography?

/wtf?
//there's something I didn't know about the Peanuts...

Mine, too. My head exploded at the thought of Peanuts Porn.

has Rule 34 become obscure?


Unfortunately, I saw some mimeograph cartoons of 'porned' Peanuts (just remove the 'T') back around 1990.

Prior to that, humor was faxed.
 
2011-12-16 09:44:49 AM  

ajt167: JusticeandIndependence: sseye: I get depressed the second I hear that damn music.

The one they play on the radio with the kids singing? Gawd that is awful, I feel like turning my car into a tree every time. I have to change the station whenever that "Christmas Time is here" comes on.

Ya know, I typically hate the sound of children singing. It makes my teeth itch. But I really like this song. Although, the best song of the show is "Skating", bar none.

Violet Insinuendo: 11. It's absolute dreck and should be pitched in the recycling bin.

I hated the Peanuts specials when I was a kid and I refuse subject my own kids to them now.

Your soul is an appaling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of rubbish imaginable, mangled up in tangled up knots.


You sir have made an exclusive list. Now to decide the color.
 
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