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2011-12-15 09:37:56 PM
Why is this sad?

A show that trivializes plastic surgery, makes people think they can go to a doctor and get their body cut up for pure vanity to improve their life?

Or was that tag meant to be sarcastic?
 
2011-12-15 10:04:35 PM
Silverstaff: Why is this sad?

A show that trivializes plastic surgery, makes people think they can go to a doctor and get their body cut up for pure vanity to improve their life?

Or was that tag meant to be sarcastic?


DNRTFA, I see.

/Not subby.
 
2011-12-15 11:32:43 PM
Nothing of value.
 
2011-12-15 11:37:35 PM
That was still on? Holy crap! That one got old after the first season.
 
2011-12-16 12:21:41 AM
That show enraged me by the way it seemed to be built on the principle you can get over anything if you just have enough shiny crap.

"Oh, it sucks that you have cancer and your kid's in a wheelchair. Here's a 500 inch plasma screen TV for you! Enjoy paying the property taxes on your new home after we're gone, and enjoy having to deal with break-ins because we built you a palace in the middle of a shiatty neighborhood!"
 
2011-12-16 12:31:23 AM
Oh look, a reality show was canceled.
 
2011-12-16 02:13:13 AM
I'm shocked they didn't make a reality show out of the reality show being cancelled.
 
2011-12-16 04:58:36 AM
I was always irritated by the way the show seemed to overbuild. Often for the neighborhoods the houses were in, but also for the means of the people they were building for. Mom or Dad is dead, killed in the war/car wreck/cancer/whatever, and you've got a crap job that pays maybe $30K/ year gross. So we're gonna build you a $500,000+ house with a $10,000/year property tax bill!

Not only will your neighbors be pissed at you for distorting property valuations in the area, but you'll lose the house in a couple years because you can't afford the taxes, utilities and general upkeep! A winner is you!
 
2011-12-16 05:15:17 AM
i thought they already took tim allen's show off the air?
 
2011-12-16 05:39:23 AM
Time to MOVE THAT BUS the hell out of here...
 
2011-12-16 05:43:33 AM
Silverstaff: Why is this sad?

A show that trivializes plastic surgery, makes people think they can go to a doctor and get their body cut up for pure vanity to improve their life?

Or was that tag meant to be sarcastic?


It was Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
 
2011-12-16 06:00:36 AM
Wrong_Intentions: DNRTFA, I see.

/Not subby.


so the headline says "extreme makeover" was cancelled but the body says extreme home makeover but why am i still typing this who even cares
 
2011-12-16 06:37:06 AM
How did I survive all these years without watching this once?
 
2011-12-16 06:43:53 AM
jake_lex: That show enraged me by the way it seemed to be built on the principle you can get over anything if you just have enough shiny crap.

"Oh, it sucks that you have cancer and your kid's in a wheelchair. Here's a 500 inch plasma screen TV for you! Enjoy paying the property taxes on your new home after we're gone, and enjoy having to deal with break-ins because we built you a palace in the middle of a shiatty neighborhood!"


They could have paid for treatment. I would watch that.
 
2011-12-16 06:49:26 AM
Product Placement: The TV Show brought to you by Sears was canceled? Aw crap.

/this post brought to you by Sears.

//Sears
 
2011-12-16 07:00:26 AM
meh. it was fine.

Easily forgotten.
 
2011-12-16 07:02:35 AM
I used to really like the show the first couple seasons, before you had to have some incredibly sad story to get a makeover. It was more fun when it was just regular folks. After they started tying it to a hard luck story, it got ridiculous ... after 3 or 4 seasons, they were really stretching the "sympathy" angle.
 
2011-12-16 07:07:58 AM
mistersnark: I was always irritated by the way the show seemed to overbuild. Often for the neighborhoods the houses were in, but also for the means of the people they were building for. Mom or Dad is dead, killed in the war/car wreck/cancer/whatever, and you've got a crap job that pays maybe $30K/ year gross. So we're gonna build you a $500,000+ house with a $10,000/year property tax bill!

Not only will your neighbors be pissed at you for distorting property valuations in the area, but you'll lose the house in a couple years because you can't afford the taxes, utilities and general upkeep! A winner is you!


This is not how property taxes work!

If they live in the house and don't sell it, their tax will change little, if at all, because of the renovation.

Tax is based on selling price and land value. The physical structure has little effect (except to influence selling price, of course).

Neighborhood values won't be affected much even if they *do* sell. The worst thing about a white elephant is selling it. It doesn't have a lot of effect on its surroundings.
 
2011-12-16 07:15:28 AM
Any word on community?
 
2011-12-16 07:19:36 AM
aearra: How did I survive all these years without watching this once?

Pretty well, I'm hoping.
 
2011-12-16 07:22:35 AM
Link (new window)

Good riddance to a show that puts more value on palatial mcmansions than restoring or enhancing that is already there. TV shows that put the WHAM POW above what a family actually can live with should all be cancelled.

If there was a show about habitat for humanity, well I would watch THAT.
 
2011-12-16 08:52:14 AM
ryarger: This is not how property taxes work!

Depends on what state you live in.

ryarger: Tax is based on selling price and land value.

See, the state I live in, tax is based on appraised value of the home. And appraised value is reassessed every year.
 
2011-12-16 09:00:30 AM
Damn, thought it was "Whitney" being cancelled.
 
2011-12-16 09:16:24 AM
A nearby EXTREME makeover 'victim' couldn't afford the oil to heat the house that was built for them... so they had to sell it.

My fav was a couple in Georgia (I think?) who tapped the Extreme Makeover house for cash for his failing small business... that continued to fail and then they lost the house that was given to them.


Silverstaff: Why is this sad?

A show that trivializes plastic surgery, makes people think they can go to a doctor and get their body cut up for pure vanity to improve their life?

Or was that tag meant to be sarcastic?


Best post, would read again!
 
2011-12-16 09:26:14 AM
ryarger: mistersnark: I was always irritated by the way the show seemed to overbuild. Often for the neighborhoods the houses were in, but also for the means of the people they were building for. Mom or Dad is dead, killed in the war/car wreck/cancer/whatever, and you've got a crap job that pays maybe $30K/ year gross. So we're gonna build you a $500,000+ house with a $10,000/year property tax bill!

Not only will your neighbors be pissed at you for distorting property valuations in the area, but you'll lose the house in a couple years because you can't afford the taxes, utilities and general upkeep! A winner is you!

This is not how property taxes work!

If they live in the house and don't sell it, their tax will change little, if at all, because of the renovation.


State dependent. My state bases it on assessed value. Full town assessment is done when voted for by the town but at least every 10 years. However whenever you file for a building permit, like for this show, part of the process is allowing the town assessor to reassess the value that year after the work is done. Ergo, you are hit with higher taxes right away.


Tax is based on selling price and land value. The physical structure has little effect (except to influence selling price, of course).

Again, highly dependent on your state. My state uses a fixed formula based on the amount of land and the square footage of the buildings on the land. Basements, garages, attics, decks, porches and sheds are taxed at lower rates than livable areas. A fixed formula prevents a constant stream of people running to the town hall begging for abatements due to the volatility of the real estate market.


Neighborhood values won't be affected much even if they *do* sell. The worst thing about a white elephant is selling it. It doesn't have a lot of effect on its surroundings.

Very true. The absolute worse thing for selling your house is to have the best house in your neighborhood.
 
2011-12-16 09:32:43 AM
What would Ty Pennington do?
 
2011-12-16 09:35:48 AM
The buthurt over the fact that the show provided mostly poor people with overbuilt homes is amazing.

I always thought the show was kinda dumb, but I certainly don't have a problem with giving people nice things. Even if they ultimately can't afford to keep the home longterm, I assume they can sell the new home for quite a bit more than the piece of crap home that usually gets torn down.
 
2011-12-16 09:41:29 AM
lajotu:
ryarger: Tax is based on selling price and land value.

See, the state I live in, tax is based on appraised value of the home. And appraised value is reassessed every year.


One of the first thing I learned when my home was reappraised was that the appraiser had little to no interest in going into the house. It was all about lot size and exterior construction.
 
2011-12-16 09:43:05 AM
lostinspace1978: What would Ty Pennington do?

DIY network? HG Channel?
 
2011-12-16 09:44:40 AM
lostinspace1978: What would Ty Pennington do?

Become a megaphone saleman?
 
2011-12-16 09:46:06 AM
Persnickety: lostinspace1978: What would Ty Pennington do?

Become a megaphone saleman?


Pitch OxyClean?
 
2011-12-16 09:46:08 AM
ryarger: One of the first thing I learned when my home was reappraised was that the appraiser had little to no interest in going into the house. It was all about lot size and exterior construction.

Wanna pique his interest? Apply for a building permit.
 
2011-12-16 09:50:11 AM
THAT SHOW SUCKED
 
2011-12-16 10:01:07 AM
"Extreme Makeover" got lost the last couple years.

It was more interesting when the "team" had to go in, look at the falling-apart hovel the recipients were living in, and figure out how to give it a makeover--fix it up, make it livable and safe, give them a few nice things along the way.

It evolved (devolved?) into "OK, let's level the existing house, and have 400 volunteers and a sucker builder erect a brand new home in 5 days with tons of sh*t they never needed or wanted.

Nice that they often paid off the existing mortgage as well, but when it's a family who is half an inch from eviction, replacing a $900 a month mortgage with a brand new McMansion with a $12,000 annual tax burden doesn't seem like a brilliant idea.

I always wondered how these homes, built with the work of people who don't know dick about homebuilding, would hold up over time. Never was a reunion special where 90% of the drywall had fallen off the ceilings, none of the plumbing works, the foundations are all cracked and leaking, and swimming pools won't hold water because the cement didn't cure.
 
2011-12-16 10:12:23 AM
I always hated the "Kid X likes Y, so I'm gonna do something that they'll really love" routine that ended up as something lame that you'd hate to be stuck with after a few days. It might work for birthday parties, but not for permanant living spaces.
 
2011-12-16 10:19:41 AM
Zombie Eater: I always hated the "Kid X likes Y, so I'm gonna do something that they'll really love" routine that ended up as something lame that you'd hate to be stuck with after a few days. It might work for birthday parties, but not for permanant living spaces.

especially when it was that Collin Farrel knockoff. "Oi, lil' Jimmy 'ere luvs him some rusty, jagged shards of metal, so i'm buildin' 'im a bed wiff pointy metal an' a giant circular saw. 'e'll luv it!"
 
2011-12-16 10:28:45 AM
Good. I hate shows that bring joy into someone's (or some family's) life. I'd rather watch shows about orange Guidos getting into fistfights with their significant other and vomiting up last night's Jager Bombs. That's quality TV.
 
2011-12-16 10:31:12 AM
DubyaHater: Good. I hate shows that bring joy into someone's (or some family's) life. I'd rather watch shows about orange Guidos getting into fistfights with their significant other and vomiting up last night's Jager Bombs. That's quality TV.



Hmmmm...maybe they can combine the two
 
2011-12-16 10:34:41 AM
Calm Down You Spaz: Any word on community?

SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE.

/sticks fingers in ears
//la la la la la
 
2011-12-16 10:44:24 AM
andnotasinglefu(kwasgiventhatday.tiff
 
2011-12-16 10:47:31 AM
Britney Spear's Speculum: andnotasinglefu(kwasgiventhatday.tiff

Also: andnotasinglethingofvaluewaslost.jpg
 
2011-12-16 10:58:49 AM
pho75: I always thought the show was kinda dumb, but I certainly don't have a problem with giving people nice things. Even if they ultimately can't afford to keep the home longterm, I assume they can sell the new home for quite a bit more than the piece of crap home that usually gets torn down.

i think the problem was that there IS a good way to do that. They just said screw it and went for what looked best on TV, not what was best for the poor people
 
2011-12-16 11:03:31 AM
Wellbye.jpg

/hated the show
 
2011-12-16 11:49:32 AM
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2011-12-16 11:50:46 AM
DubyaHater: Good. I hate shows that bring joy into someone's (or some family's) life. I'd rather watch shows about orange Guidos getting into fistfights with their significant other and vomiting up last night's Jager Bombs. That's quality TV.

The joy was short-lived. A good majority of the people this happened to lost the house within months because they could not afford it. Another one is under investigation for faking her kids illnesses.

When this show first started, they fixed up existing houses. Now they tear them down and build monstrosities in their place. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
2011-12-16 11:53:00 AM
I live in Joplin, Mo where in 7 days they built 7 houses for 7 families who lost everything (for many including their family members) in the tornado. They did a great job financing a project through corporate sponsorship, advertising dollars, and community involvement to accomplish a task that would otherwise seem nearly impossible. I applaud the show for they good work and inspiration they gave to many.

/don't biatch, just don't watch
 
2011-12-16 12:00:04 PM
Just another Queen For A Day in a bigger, louder, sexier package. And you could only get help if you had kids ... or so I heard.

Ciao.
 
2011-12-16 12:14:29 PM
I got nothin'.

/Carpenter with boobies, maybe?
 
2011-12-16 12:17:48 PM
I always wanted to know who pays the taxes and upkeep on the brand new McManses they throw up for these struggling families. Not to mention the utility bills.

/A great big fat Sears commercial, too.
//Maybe we should all get free McManses.
 
2011-12-16 12:23:45 PM
It's funny how the initial comment is almost always from someone that highlighted the link and assumed they knew the story...

anyway, i can see a few reasons why the show is getting cancelled, aside from those listed...

too many instances of fraud, fake "sob stories" and tax issues have sprung up after the show leaves, giving it a bit of a bad rep. You leave people with a house waay bigger than they need and way more expensive than they can afford to maintain. They could literally build 2-3 modest houses for what they typically spend on one, but that wouldn't result in ratings...
 
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