"I chose to attend a smaller university because I wanted to be able to receive the time and attention from my professors if need be and I believe the learning experience is much better that way."

Oh, I believe she will be getting all the time and attention she could ever want now.
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It's a shame more people with zero critical thinking skills don't get weeded out.

croesius: "I chose to attend a smaller university because I wanted to be able to receive the time and attention from my professors if need be and I believe the learning experience is much better that way."

Oh, I believe she will be getting all the time and attention she could ever want now.
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Hee hee.... nice Google Fu!


FTFL (from the farkin' link):

"Snakes are such wonderful creatures that are often misunderstood. I want to teach people about them because they are feared greatly because of the lack knowledge about them. That's enough snake talk!"

More snake talk in her future now?

NorCalLos: It's a shame more people with zero critical thinking skills don't get weeded out.

I think that's exactly what she just did to herself.

/ With a weed-whacker.

Goddammit. Just show up and take the test and fail it.

Hell, I woke up an hour late for my freshman Calculus I final, jumped out of bed and ran to the testing room (adjoining building) in my bathrobe. I didn't recognize any of the test content, which is understandable because I skipped half the classes, so I told the proctor I would just take the fail. He asked me who I was and I realized I was trying to take the Calc II final in the wrong room. Finally, I walk into the Calc I final, take the test, finish and leave first and head back to my room for a shower and breakfast.

I failed that exam and barely passed the course.

But I took the damned test, goddammit.

I guess kids have always been short sighted, but there really seems to be a lack of accountability with young people these days. It used to be if you didn't prepare properly for an exam or the course was beyond your ability, you took your medicine and adjusted your expectations accordingly. It seems now kids want to pull fire alarms, claim a disability, or tell their professor to change their grade.

AverageAmericanGuy: Goddammit. Just show up and take the test and fail it.

Hell, I woke up an hour late for my freshman Calculus I final, jumped out of bed and ran to the testing room (adjoining building) in my bathrobe. I didn't recognize any of the test content, which is understandable because I skipped half the classes, so I told the proctor I would just take the fail. He asked me who I was and I realized I was trying to take the Calc II final in the wrong room. Finally, I walk into the Calc I final, take the test, finish and leave first and head back to my room for a shower and breakfast.

I failed that exam and barely passed the course.

But I took the damned test, goddammit.

I agree with you, but it's impossible to ignore that that's an AverageAmericanRant by an AverageAmericanGuy. ;)

As someone who just completely bombed three of my finals, I'm getting a kick, etc.

/ Ended up in the 78-79 range
//shiat

I'm I them who most of their time this case likelihood of being the one that could not read the headline?

You know, I really struggled with calculus in college, especially when I got into the 400 level course work. Taylor series and the like just blew me away and I never did reach a level of competency with that branch of mathematics.

I'm a relatively bright guy and sometimes I feel ashamed that I wasn't smart enough to really grasp calculus like I did other subjects. To this day, I still view it as a personal failure.

Then I read a story like this and realize I was a god damn genius compared to most college students.

Then I weep for my nation.

smellmybutt: As someone who just completely bombed three of my finals, I'm getting a kick, etc.

/ Ended up in the 78-79 range
//shiat

Haha...which courses? I just hadva meat grinder of a final. Fortunately, we get a week to study between the end of classes and finals and my other two classes had essays in lieu of finals. Game Theory is a biatch.

NorCalLos: smellmybutt: As someone who just completely bombed three of my finals, I'm getting a kick, etc.

/ Ended up in the 78-79 range
//shiat

Haha...which courses? I just hadva meat grinder of a final. Fortunately, we get a week to study between the end of classes and finals and my other two classes had essays in lieu of finals. Game Theory is a biatch.

Finance, Network Security and Business Law 2.

To be fair I didn't give it my all and didn't study as much as I should have, so I only blame myself.

Important questions remain unanswered: was it an iPhone or Android?

Wanna hear a recording of this call...

I mean, do you really picture her going all "Muthafarker, I put a BOMB in that building and it's going off soon so you better run! I SWEAR TO GOD I'm gonna kill you all!"

Maybe more like: "hey, I just wanted to say, we're terrorists and put, like, a bomb thing in that building- because, you know, this is about the Occupy Wall Street thing, I'm with them, they planted a bomb, and I'm, like, warning you about it now."

Or "Hi, I just called because I heard these guys talking, and, they, like said there was a bomb in the building. Uhhhh, hmmm, nooooo, I don't wanna give my name, I just heard about a bomb, that's all, you know. I'm so sorry- you understand"

When is the last time a bomber actually phoned in a bomb?? Sure, there have been a number of real bombs over the years, albeit outnumbered like 500:1 by fakes. Which I suppose isn't inherently a bad thing.

But, AFAIK, while a large portion of people planting physical- yet fake- bombs, yes a good portion of those guys call in a bomb threat. But my question is, has ANY bomber planting a real explosive device actually ever called in a bomb threat in the last 10 years? Not that you can really nail "a point" to any of this, but calling it in seems very counterproductive. It's hard to avoid traces and they'll get a sample of your voice, maybe get the bomb intact with more evidence, and nothing actually blows up.

AverageAmericanGuy: Goddammit. Just show up and take the test and fail it.

Hell, I woke up an hour late for my freshman Calculus I final, jumped out of bed and ran to the testing room (adjoining building) in my bathrobe. I didn't recognize any of the test content, which is understandable because I skipped half the classes, so I told the proctor I would just take the fail. He asked me who I was and I realized I was trying to take the Calc II final in the wrong room. Finally, I walk into the Calc I final, take the test, finish and leave first and head back to my room for a shower and breakfast.

I failed that exam and barely passed the course.

But I took the damned test, goddammit.

And then you woke up.

/I've had the same dream for years.

//High-five!

smellmybutt

Well, cheers to you for taking responsibility for it. On the bright side, you successfully completed your classes and you're a semester closer to your goal (unless your goal is "get into grad school)."

/I Keed

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: AverageAmericanGuy: Goddammit. Just show up and take the test and fail it.

Hell, I woke up an hour late for my freshman Calculus I final, jumped out of bed and ran to the testing room (adjoining building) in my bathrobe. I didn't recognize any of the test content, which is understandable because I skipped half the classes, so I told the proctor I would just take the fail. He asked me who I was and I realized I was trying to take the Calc II final in the wrong room. Finally, I walk into the Calc I final, take the test, finish and leave first and head back to my room for a shower and breakfast.

I failed that exam and barely passed the course.

But I took the damned test, goddammit.

And then you woke up.

/I've had the same dream for years.

//High-five!

I'm usually naked for that.

Oznog: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 238x320]

Wanna hear a recording of this call...

I mean, do you really picture her going all "Muthafarker, I put a BOMB in that building and it's going off soon so you better run! I SWEAR TO GOD I'm gonna kill you all!"

Maybe more like: "hey, I just wanted to say, we're terrorists and put, like, a bomb thing in that building- because, you know, this is about the Occupy Wall Street thing, I'm with them, they planted a bomb, and I'm, like, warning you about it now."

Or "Hi, I just called because I heard these guys talking, and, they, like said there was a bomb in the building. Uhhhh, hmmm, nooooo, I don't wanna give my name, I just heard about a bomb, that's all, you know. I'm so sorry- you understand"

When is the last time a bomber actually phoned in a bomb?? Sure, there have been a number of real bombs over the years, albeit outnumbered like 500:1 by fakes. Which I suppose isn't inherently a bad thing.

But, AFAIK, while a large portion of people planting physical- yet fake- bombs, yes a good portion of those guys call in a bomb threat. But my question is, has ANY bomber planting a real explosive device actually ever called in a bomb threat in the last 10 years? Not that you can really nail "a point" to any of this, but calling it in seems very counterproductive. It's hard to avoid traces and they'll get a sample of your voice, maybe get the bomb intact with more evidence, and nothing actually blows up.

Obviously, calling it in is a bit archaic, though it does serve the purpose of terrorism, which is to frighten. You actually are getting more utility for your resources by calling in a threat when you don't actually have a bomb. I will say most of the current bomb drill techniques are irrelevant because they're based on Ted kaczynski's technique.

Oznog: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 238x320]

Wanna hear a recording of this call...

I mean, do you really picture her going all "Muthafarker, I put a BOMB in that building and it's going off soon so you better run! I SWEAR TO GOD I'm gonna kill you all!"

Maybe more like: "hey, I just wanted to say, we're terrorists and put, like, a bomb thing in that building- because, you know, this is about the Occupy Wall Street thing, I'm with them, they planted a bomb, and I'm, like, warning you about it now."

Or "Hi, I just called because I heard these guys talking, and, they, like said there was a bomb in the building. Uhhhh, hmmm, nooooo, I don't wanna give my name, I just heard about a bomb, that's all, you know. I'm so sorry- you understand"

When is the last time a bomber actually phoned in a bomb?? Sure, there have been a number of real bombs over the years, albeit outnumbered like 500:1 by fakes. Which I suppose isn't inherently a bad thing.

But, AFAIK, while a large portion of people planting physical- yet fake- bombs, yes a good portion of those guys call in a bomb threat. But my question is, has ANY bomber planting a real explosive device actually ever called in a bomb threat in the last 10 years? Not that you can really nail "a point" to any of this, but calling it in seems very counterproductive. It's hard to avoid traces and they'll get a sample of your voice, maybe get the bomb intact with more evidence, and nothing actually blows up.



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What? She got out of taking the exam.

NorCalLos: Obviously, calling it in is a bit archaic, though it does serve the purpose of terrorism, which is to frighten. You actually are getting more utility for your resources by calling in a threat when you don't actually have a bomb. I will say most of the current bomb drill techniques are irrelevant because they're based on Ted kaczynski's technique.

That was not my question. Has anyone ever actually called in a specific bomb threat ahead of an actual bomb?

Kaczynski wrote a manifesto, the NYC Mad Bomber taunted the press and police with letters about bombings, but never said when and where he'd be bombing something.

This whole thing might be an urban legend, probably starting with Batman cartoons or something. No real bomber would DO this. A fake bomber would. If so, logically, all threats are fake.

I suppose there's no rule against a supposed third party "overhearing" about planting a bomb. There's no logical conflict there. However, declining to identify one's self would not be explicable unless you were like the bomber's spouse or kid or something.

Oznog: This whole thing might be an urban legend, probably starting with Batman cartoons or something. No real bomber would DO this. A fake bomber would. If so, logically, all threats are fake.

Great. So the next time I plan to blow something up I am going to tell everyone about it first. That way no one will take it seriously. That will show their punk asses.

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: AverageAmericanGuy: Goddammit. Just show up and take the test and fail it.

Hell, I woke up an hour late for my freshman Calculus I final, jumped out of bed and ran to the testing room (adjoining building) in my bathrobe. I didn't recognize any of the test content, which is understandable because I skipped half the classes, so I told the proctor I would just take the fail. He asked me who I was and I realized I was trying to take the Calc II final in the wrong room. Finally, I walk into the Calc I final, take the test, finish and leave first and head back to my room for a shower and breakfast.

I failed that exam and barely passed the course.

But I took the damned test, goddammit.

And then you woke up.

/I've had the same dream for years.

//High-five!

Yeah, in my dreams I actually pass the test.

Kaszynski's manifesto was an interesting read, though his critique of capitalism was pretty much the same stuff Adam smith and Marx/Engels had already observed.

As a Loyola alum, I have opinions about this sort of thing happening since the storm, but I'm not sure I should say anything, so I'll just post a picture of Marquette Hall looking all creepy-like:

/Some great professors
//Very questionable administrative decisions over the last 6 years

The storm?

Katrina.

This isn't the first incident of a Loyola student absolutely losing their shiat since then. Rumors abounded while I was there about the administration turning a blind eye to mental health (and other) problems that would otherwise be addressed if they weren't so desperate to keep their student retention rates looking good.

On the other hand, the place does have the reputation of being "Loyola High," where rumors can get out of hand.

Back in the Loyola, NOLA Dental school days crowds would gather to watch them hoist the cadavers up to the anatomy lab floor. Yes they were wrapped. Howver one could almost hear Morgus and Chopsley cackling in the background. The dental school folks had fabricated the morgus dentures or so I heard. All bicuspids.

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Wanna hear a recording of this call...

I mean, do you really picture her going all "Muthafarker, I put a BOMB in that building and it's going off soon so you better run! I SWEAR TO GOD I'm gonna kill you all!"

Yeah, actually, that's pretty much what happened:

In the first message, written in capital letters, Hubbard said she had a "Mamba pistol with five bullets in it for five professors in Monroe Hall," and she urged Loyola police to clear the building, saying, "I have no sympathy for any accidental casualties!!!"

When nothing happened, Hubbard sent a second message, again in capital letters: "You are really trying my patience! I am on the verge of blowing that biatch up and you'll be renovating from the foundation!"

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"I chose to attend a smaller university because I wanted to be able to receive the time and attention from my professors if need be and I believe the learning experience is much better that way."

Oh, I believe she will be getting all the time and attention she could ever want now.
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From the first blog entry in your link: "Jack and Ennis parted ways after that summer on Brokeback mountain and for all intensive proposes lived hetero-sexual lives...."

Srsly...... 'for all intensive proposes'? Did the student in the article write this? If so, she needs a bit more remedial work before she should even be in college.

Perhaps the student would be better served by an environment that doesn't place so much pressure to perform on tests. Blaming the student isn't sufficient for something that happens every year due to the real problem - excessive stress.

You know what is going to suck about this when it is all said and done...she is going to get off almost scot-free. Her public defender/lawyer will argue that the stress of finals, stress of meeting her and her family's expectation of her performance/grades all got to her. "She wasn't in her right mind" will be the mantra from her family and her lawyer.

(Not that I am defending drinking and driving, but the guy who gets busted for a .09 will, depending on the state and locality...will see the inside of a jail cell for much longer than this chick will)

She won't be convicted of a felony...I'm gonna guess that she gets off completely or at a maximum, gets 30 days for "inciting public fear" or some other bullshiat, then be released after 72 hours due to overcrowding.

She will have not learned anything, will not have gained any personal responsibility/accountability out of this. She will see this as a way she worked the system.

And finally, in a bizarre twist, she will not only end up suing the school, but she will win...she will sue them for pressing charges, and not reaching out to aid her mental health during her time as a student.

Dracolich: Perhaps the student would be better served by an environment that doesn't place so much pressure to perform on tests. Blaming the student isn't sufficient for something that happens every year due to the real problem - excessive stress.

As I have gotten older, I am amazed how outside of group projects in school, a lot of what I learned and how that information was to be used/shown does not match up with my everyday life in a professional work environment. Critical thinking skills, social skills...blah, blah, blah, I know there is that...but that is not want I am talking about here.

It always boggled my mind that I could work on project after project (personal and group), do the homework, take tests, participate in class...and all that could be worth nothing if I do not pass the final exam. In college, I always appreciated the professors who would deemphasize the weight of the final exam; overall class participation, completion of homework and many small tests were what made up your final class grade. You were forced to come to class with this teaching style...but that requires a lot more of the professors time.

I have never once encountered the equivalent of a final exam in my years in the workforce. If you have a massive project, you collaborate with coworkers. Your boss would never let you tackle a huge project on your own and submit it to a customer without at least a few people giving a once over and some input.

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"I chose to attend a smaller university because I wanted to be able to receive the time and attention from my professors if need be and I believe the learning experience is much better that way."

Oh, I believe she will be getting all the time and attention she could ever want now.
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Not. Surprised.

/thats wacist

After seeing the headline, I was concerned, but opening the article allowed me a minute to pause and exclaim, ROLL WAVE! For once, the shiat storm from a NOLA University was not centered at Tulane. Praise Touchdown Jesus!

Why didn't she just use the phone to call in sick? Now there's a novel idea!

pyrion: Oznog: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 238x320]

Wanna hear a recording of this call...

I mean, do you really picture her going all "Muthafarker, I put a BOMB in that building and it's going off soon so you better run! I SWEAR TO GOD I'm gonna kill you all!"

Yeah, actually, that's pretty much what happened:In the first message, written in capital letters, Hubbard said she had a "Mamba pistol with five bullets in it for five professors in Monroe Hall," and she urged Loyola police to clear the building, saying, "I have no sympathy for any accidental casualties!!!"

When nothing happened, Hubbard sent a second message, again in capital letters: "You are really trying my patience! I am on the verge of blowing that biatch up and you'll be renovating from the foundation!"

I forgot it was email- I can picture her being a bit more threatening texting this shiat. Phone call, not so much.