So what if they've donated to Muslim charities in the past? Lowe's farked this one up.

Does this mean there's a "FFA reacts while huddled in their bunker" video forthcoming?

brigid_fitch: Done. And what the hell is up w/this option: "No. It's not just the Florida Family Association that is tired of political correctness when it comes to the media's portrayal of Muslims. Lowe's did the right thing." It's political correctness to show normal families who happen to be Muslim in one of America's largest Muslim communities? Would it be practicing PC if TLC only showed Amish building barns and not those juvenile delinquent Rumspringers who are selling drugs & wreaking havoc all over Lancaster County?

Apparently, depicting Muslims as anything but terrorists is "politically correct". I suppose that means depicting Christians as anything but Fred Phelps-esque bigots is also politically correct.

keylock71
But these days, I just go ahead and assume any group with the word "Family" or "Patriot" in the name is probably nothing but a bunch of hateful bigots and religious fundamentalists.

Sadly, THIS.

Keep voting at the link, Farkers.

This is just an extension of the common American belief that freedom of religion means being able to choose between one of the white-bready christian religions, not having to tolerate people of other faiths beliefs.

Personally I wish they would have worded it freedom from religion. That would have been nice.

I'll be buying my Meth lab equipment elsewhere from now on.

Anyone who responds to an FFA complaint with anything other than "DIAF" is an idiot

Poison Appleseeds: I'll be buying my Meth lab equipment elsewhere from now on.

Home Depot has more durable equipment, but Menard's has stuff you can afford to leave behind if you have to suddenly leave the location through a back door.

Wait till Lowe's finds out it employs Muslims

GAT_00: Les Comdien Masque: Any Farkers want to counter

Did my part.

Humean_Nature: How about we stop caring what the assholes at the FFA think about shiat? Can we do that?

Well, these Christians have more pull than most of us, so I think we need to, don't we?



I'm doing my part!

Wow, the Future Farmers of America has changed a lot since I was in.

Lord Dimwit: The "Florida Family Association" apparently believes that a family must be Christian to truly be a family.

This is incorrect.

New to America, huh?

keylock71: But these days, I just go ahead and assume any group with the word "Family" or "Patriot" in the name is probably nothing but a bunch of hateful bigots and religious fundamentalists.

A visit to the Ministry of Love will change your views.

Poison Appleseeds: I'll be buying my Meth lab equipment elsewhere from now on.

Same goes for my hydroponics supplies.

Jacobin: Anyone who responds to an FFA complaint with anything other than "DIAF" is an idiot

I would have responded with: "My company does not take advice from hate groups."

Which may be why I'm not a CEO.

Les Comdien Masque: /On a side note: The Orlando Sentinel has a poll about the Lowe's ad decision that has been "freeped" to hell. Any Farkers want to counter (new window)?

Meh, what's the point? Local newspaper comment sections are little more than cesspools for the primordial soup of insanity to congeal into living, breathing knee-jerk reaction. Some moron at my local rag asserted that the primary goal of the Republican party is, and always has been, to "support our troops." I asked him what I meant by such a statement and he claimed that anytime any sort of decision arose which would benefit our armed forces, Democrats universally scorned such actions while Republicans universally supported it. I then made a laundry list of times when Republicans collectively farked over our armed forces and was promptly railroaded out of the discussion.

The uninhibited right to free speech is not always as good as advertised. I'm all for differing opinions, but opinions are worth farkall if people are simply going to ignore any and everything you have to say simply because they don't want to hear it.

Wait until they find out they even have Muslims working for them.

Its always puzzled me why when sensible people contact these companies, you'r elucky to get a "Thank you for your interest." and your letter gets buried. But when some tiny fringe group writes in complainign about 'the Mooslums' or "Those damn gheys!", these corpperations can't cave fast enough. So what is it about these racist groups that make their opinions more valuable than the rest of us?


Les Comdien Masque: I'm sure that Lowe's has seen the error of its way and won't be donating any more money to those scary, America-hatin' terrorists.

/On a side note: The Orlando Sentinel has a poll about the Lowe's ad decision that has been "freeped" to hell. Any Farkers want to counter (new window)?

Added my vote. Though I suspect it won't help much, it being a Florida paper and all.

I don't buy home repair stuff often, but I hope I remember this the next time I need a pack of nails or a drill bit.

God-is-a-Taco: How about giving the recipients of your charity the choice in the matter?
This doesn't hurt Lowe's, it hurts the people your damn charity is supposed to exist for.

Some people think principles are more important than money.

I imagine that the NAACP would reject similar donations from the KKK.

You never have to take someone's money.

So out of curiosity I downloaded the first 5 episodes of All American Muslim. I knew nothing about it but was curious to know what all the controversy was about. I made it through 3 episodes and stopped. It's horrible. It's the same old reality tv garbage I try to avoid like the plague. It's 5 families just going about their normal lives and people film it. It's about as much fun as watching golf.

If I was Bill Lowes, or whoever runs that company, I would not want to throw cash their way either. I was hoping it would be educational. I was sadly mistaken.

Good for Lowes. The show really sucks.

Old enough to know better: So what is it about these racist groups that make their opinions more valuable than the rest of us?

Idiots are more likely to be influenced by mindless consumerism and, as such, are potentially a greater, longer term profit center?

SlappyKincaid: If I was Bill Lowes, or whoever runs that company, I would not want to throw cash their way either. I was hoping it would be educational. I was sadly mistaken.

Except that Reality Shows get *tons* of "everyday people" eyeballs. That's the point of advertising.

Knara: SlappyKincaid: If I was Bill Lowes, or whoever runs that company, I would not want to throw cash their way either. I was hoping it would be educational. I was sadly mistaken.

Except that Reality Shows get *tons* of "everyday people" eyeballs. That's the point of advertising.

I understand that but I have to wonder that if Lowes pulled out of another show that had a less controversial group, but still the same crappy, boring reality themes, if anyone would care? Probably not.

Lowes has every right to put their advertising dollars wherever they wish. It's not controversial for advertisers to pull out of shows based on ratings. Maybe this show is tanking (wouldn't surprise me) and Lowes sees the writing on the wall. Of course they then have to mention that its not about Islam as not offend the PC police.

This is whole thing is just silly to me.

SlappyKincaid: This is whole thing is just silly to me.

Well, it is. Nonetheless, it's never really great PR to be seen as bowing the the pressure of fringe groups. There is, in spite of my playing devil's advocate, no real upside for the company.

SlappyKincaid
Good for Lowes. The show really sucks.

You fail. I don't give a damn if the show sucks or not. The point is that Lowe's pulled their advertising directly because they got a complaint from a bigoted anti-Muslim group, not because the show's quality was in doubt.

Lowes has every right to put their advertising dollars wherever they wish. It's not controversial for advertisers to pull out of shows based on ratings.

Again, they pulled their commercials because they got complaints about the show from the FFA, a group of bigots, and did not want to advertise on a show they decided must be controversial because of said complaints.

Of course they then have to mention that its not about Islam as not offend the PC police.

You obviously haven't read TFA or had no comprehension of what you read. You've also pulled the "OMG! PC POLICE!" card without any justification. In other words, you sound just like the people who whine about the "PC police" to give themselves an excuse to keep being assholes.

anfrind: Jacobin: Anyone who responds to an FFA complaint with anything other than "DIAF" is an idiot

I would have responded with: "My company does not take advice from hate groups."

Which may be why I'm not a CEO.

I'd have put it more succinctly: "We'll at least listen to the complaint...once you drop your promotion of religionationalism and particularly your promotion of anti-gay Holocaust revisionism. Otherwise, you may pound sand; we don't take advice from groups that are listed as hate groups due to their specific promotion of Holocaust revisionism in the name of anti-gay, anti-Moslem hate."

(And yes, I'm an advocate of hammering that farking meme into the core of the earth until people get it: the AFA and its state affiliates are not merely listed as a hate group for promotion of anti-gay or anti-Moslem material, not just listed because they've advocated genocide and claimed that the genocide of First Nations people was the result of those nations not converting en masse to dominionist Christianity, but because they LITERALLY promote Holocaust revisionism and Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion-esque material in regards to LGBT people. Among other things, the anti-Moslem rantage is actually an extension of this--they've promoted the concept that somehow Wahhabist Islamist groups (probably the one group even equaling the sheer level of hate against LGBT people to the AFA) are a plot by the Gay Illuminati. I wish I was making this up.)