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2011-12-15 01:50:39 PM
This could be either good like a whole bunch of "Let's Kill Hitler" episodes, or "let's cram in wayyyyyy too much" episode like the season 6 finale.
 
2011-12-15 01:58:10 PM
Just get it the hell back here before 2013.
 
2011-12-15 02:13:50 PM
Who cares. Sherlock comes back in January.
 
2011-12-15 02:20:37 PM
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2011-12-15 02:30:18 PM
Wheeeeee!!!

...In about 10 months, anyway...
 
2011-12-15 02:31:20 PM
perigee: Wheeeeee!!!

...In about 10 months, anyway...


We get a little something in 10 days to tide us over!
 
2011-12-15 02:41:04 PM
"I just think, 'What haven't we done yet?'"

Porn.
 
2011-12-15 02:43:31 PM
Gah. I'm a greedy lil piggy - I get a little, it just fires me up for wanting more.

The only good news (for me) is I'm a BIG fan of the slam-bang Moff episodes. (I've been told it's because I'm a Yankee-Doodle Dynamite Monkey by the high-concept British contingent) They might take a hit on the "intelligent" side of the stories, but give me a season of "A Good Man..." episodes, and I'll be in paradise.
 
2011-12-15 02:46:09 PM
Wellon Dowd: i.imgur.com

Oh, that one with her in the green is one I haven't seen yet.
 
2011-12-15 02:50:53 PM
Wellon Dowd: perigee: Wheeeeee!!!

...In about 10 months, anyway...

We get a little something in 10 days to tide us over!



There is also the Doctor and the Night series of mini-episodes that came out recently on the DVD. Several of them have important continuity things in them. Much like Amy remembers the events of "The Wedding of River Song" and killing Madame Kovarian, and Rory remembers his nearly two millennia as a plastic centurion, both of Amy's pre-marriage time-lines are real to her (the one with and the one without her parents). The Pandorica exhibit at the museum was also not the first time Amelia met her adult self. "Last Night" has even more significant continuity revelations. "Long Night" has nothing to do with the Doctor and the Williamses, and instead features Craig, Sophie and Stormageddon.
 
2011-12-15 03:00:03 PM
HopScotchNSoda: Wellon Dowd: perigee: Wheeeeee!!!

...In about 10 months, anyway...

We get a little something in 10 days to tide us over!


There is also the Doctor and the Night series of mini-episodes that came out recently on the DVD. Several of them have important continuity things in them. Much like Amy remembers the events of "The Wedding of River Song" and killing Madame Kovarian, and Rory remembers his nearly two millennia as a plastic centurion, both of Amy's pre-marriage time-lines are real to her (the one with and the one without her parents). The Pandorica exhibit at the museum was also not the first time Amelia met her adult self. "Last Night" has even more significant continuity revelations. "Long Night" has nothing to do with the Doctor and the Williamses, and instead features Craig, Sophie and Stormageddon.


Darn it, I know I should have held out of the box set instead of getting them part1 and part2.
 
2011-12-15 03:00:26 PM
mitchcumstein1: Just get it the hell back here before 2013.

Amen to that.
 
2011-12-15 03:02:53 PM
"Everyone is expecting us to do another year like 2011. You're not going to get that at all. You're going to get the biggest, maddest set of episodes ever."

Awesome!
 
2011-12-15 03:07:05 PM
browneye: "Everyone is expecting us to do another year like 2011. You're not going to get that at all. You're going to get the biggest, maddest set of episodes ever."

Awesome!


I came.
 
2011-12-15 03:20:05 PM
"I want slutty titles and movie-poster plots. I want big pictures and straplines."

Is that last bit a cross between visible panty lines and strap-ons?
 
2011-12-15 03:20:11 PM
I will say that Moffat didn't say anything about three- or even four-part episodes.

Whatever. Since he's taken over as head writer the show has been at its best in years. I say let him do whatever he wants, because it's bound to be good.
 
2011-12-15 03:21:06 PM
HopScotchNSoda: There is also the Doctor and the Night series of mini-episodes that came out recently on the DVD. Several of them have important continuity things in them. Much like Amy remembers the events of "The Wedding of River Song" and killing Madame Kovarian, and Rory remembers his nearly two millennia as a plastic centurion, both of Amy's pre-marriage time-lines are real to her (the one with and the one without her parents). The Pandorica exhibit at the museum was also not the first time Amelia met her adult self. "Last Night" has even more significant continuity revelations. "Long Night" has nothing to do with the Doctor and the Williamses, and instead features Craig, Sophie and Stormageddon.

Now I know what my daughter can get me for Christmas.
 
2011-12-15 03:54:27 PM
In before Balchinian starts with his inevitable "Moffat and Smith suck and I want to tell everyone about it constantly" remark.

That said, this statement about no 2 parters worries me. When Moffat does single episodes they tend to be poorly paced, and it seems to hurt the story.
 
2011-12-15 03:59:26 PM
Steven Moffat reveals season 7 of Doctor Who will not have any 2-part episodes, original ideas.
FTFY

"I want slutty titles and movie-poster plots. I want big pictures and straplines. (i.e. typical Hollywood shlock, heavy on bells and whistles, light on content. Will probably use more fast cuts ala the Bourne series, to make it feel more tense, edgy, and trendy.) The first episode I'm writing is called [Spoiler] of the [Spoilers]. And it'll feel a bit like Die Hard, that first episode. (i.e. Yet another episode ripped off of somethign else that has already been done.)

Oh, and 5 episodes? SRSLY? That is called a mini-series. Like Roots, or Band of Brothers. (Only not as good.) He may be fooling you guys, but he doesn't fool me for a second. He is doing just enough to keep it afloat until he can get a piece of the movie deal. If that falls through, the BBC will be slashing the DW budget and he will bail.
 
2011-12-15 04:03:21 PM
rickycal78:....this statement about no 2 parters worries me. When Moffat does single episodes they tend to be poorly paced, and it seems to hurt the story.

Well Moffat wrote The Girl in the Fireplace and Blink - which are universally considered some of the best Doctor Who episodes ever - and they're both single episodes, so the man has earned the benefit of the doubt.
 
2011-12-15 04:13:03 PM
Funny that no one's mentioned the other announcement- Amy and Rory are leaving, but River may return.
 
2011-12-15 04:19:52 PM
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/Hot like the colicky fury of Stormageddon
 
2011-12-15 04:42:18 PM
Balchinian: Oh, and 5 episodes? SRSLY? That is called a mini-series.

Pretty sure that just means he is writing five episodes of the series. Doesn't mean that other writers won't be writing more.

FTFA:
"We're making more episodes than ever before, we've got other things planned for the big year"

Do you ever get sick of doing this in every Who thread?
 
2011-12-15 04:49:18 PM
Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.
 
2011-12-15 05:20:01 PM
Wellon Dowd: [i.imgur.com image 600x550]
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My step sister works at BBC America in New York and met her and the doctor. She said Karen was very quiet and that was apparently because she was hungover from partying her ass off as soon as she got into town.
 
2011-12-15 05:22:13 PM
apeiron242: Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.


He explained that he can't cross his own personal timeline ("except for cheap tricks", and that no one should cross their own timeline. The possible consequences were established in the episode "Father's Day"). The TARDIS can solve some problems, but not all of them, and the Doctor doesn't really know how to pilot it very well. I think that perhaps he is a bit insecure in his piloting abilities, and so won't use it to solve problems because of the precision required to pilot it to the exact right moment of time and space.
 
2011-12-15 05:28:47 PM
apeiron242: Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.


Plus the TARDIS itself takes The Doctor where he needs to be, not where he wants to be.
 
2011-12-15 05:42:03 PM
No more Rory? That's almost as bad as no more Jimmy...

As long as there are no more impossible paradoxes where the future like in the big-bang then i'll be happy.
 
2011-12-15 05:44:05 PM
Magruda: As long as there are no more impossible paradoxes where the future like in the big-bang then i'll be happy.

And the writers make script sense grammar.
 
2011-12-15 05:59:03 PM
rickycal78: In before

Hilarity.
 
2011-12-15 06:06:24 PM
Balchinian: Steven Moffat reveals season 7 of Doctor Who will not have any 2-part episodes, original ideas.
FTFY

"I want slutty titles and movie-poster plots. I want big pictures and straplines. (i.e. typical Hollywood shlock, heavy on bells and whistles, light on content. Will probably use more fast cuts ala the Bourne series, to make it feel more tense, edgy, and trendy.) The first episode I'm writing is called [Spoiler] of the [Spoilers]. And it'll feel a bit like Die Hard, that first episode. (i.e. Yet another episode ripped off of somethign else that has already been done.)

Oh, and 5 episodes? SRSLY? That is called a mini-series. Like Roots, or Band of Brothers. (Only not as good.) He may be fooling you guys, but he doesn't fool me for a second. He is doing just enough to keep it afloat until he can get a piece of the movie deal. If that falls through, the BBC will be slashing the DW budget and he will bail.


Just die will you?
 
2011-12-15 06:11:07 PM
twat_waffle: apeiron242: Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.

He explained that he can't cross his own personal timeline ("except for cheap tricks", and that no one should cross their own timeline. The possible consequences were established in the episode "Father's Day"). The TARDIS can solve some problems, but not all of them, and the Doctor doesn't really know how to pilot it very well. I think that perhaps he is a bit insecure in his piloting abilities, and so won't use it to solve problems because of the precision required to pilot it to the exact right moment of time and space.


Blinovitch Limitation Effect FTW!
 
2011-12-15 06:11:53 PM
Season 7, the first to feature stories involving Jon Pertwee's Third Doctor, aired in 1970 and consisted of one 4-part episode and three 7-part episodes.
 
2011-12-15 06:15:29 PM
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The hottest companion!!!
 
2011-12-15 06:17:06 PM
texdent: apeiron242: Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.

Plus the TARDIS itself takes The Doctor where he needs to be, not where he wants to be.


The TARDIS rules are a little bendy.
But dialogue does seem to indicate that it's a bad idea to leave in the middle of events you've altered or affected, and even moreso to pop back in having given yourself more time. I suppose there's always the danger of something you do elsewhere in time having an effect on the action you left from, and vice versa.
Imagine, Dalek army invading Earth. "Boots" on the ground, cities in flames. Leaving to stop it beforehand causes a paradox, as well as any changes you make to the past potentially altering the Dalek invasion. Also, at any point you leave for the future during the Dalek invasion, time would proceed as if the Daleks had simply killed you, , you would arrive in future where the Daleks had won, and you run the risk of never being able to return to when you left and "set things right".
It makes more sense than anything out of Star Trek or Back to the Future.

/And for that matter, going to the End of Time makes you immune to changes in your timeline. So Marle disappeared at the beginning of the game because she wasn't immune yet. Since the End of Time is a neutral point, a place with no time, it shields you from additional changes since it acts as your origin point, rather than your actual birth.
//Give us Chrono Break you sons of biatches, not FFXIII-2. Japanese fetishism aside, the Shiva blowjob-cycle was not a good idea the first time.
///slightly drunk
 
2011-12-15 06:24:54 PM
Season 33, not 7.
 
2011-12-15 06:53:42 PM
Blackbrain: twat_waffle: apeiron242: Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.

He explained that he can't cross his own personal timeline ("except for cheap tricks", and that no one should cross their own timeline. The possible consequences were established in the episode "Father's Day"). The TARDIS can solve some problems, but not all of them, and the Doctor doesn't really know how to pilot it very well. I think that perhaps he is a bit insecure in his piloting abilities, and so won't use it to solve problems because of the precision required to pilot it to the exact right moment of time and space.

Blinovitch Limitation Effect FTW!


Yeah. It hasn't been explicitly mentioned in the new series, but that's what it is. There appear to be exceptions, such as in "The Big Bang", "Space", and "Time".

Notice how River Song didn't arrive to Demon's Run until after the fighting was over? She knew that she couldn't be there or else she may cause a paradox.
 
2011-12-15 07:17:51 PM
Sergeant Grumbles: texdent: apeiron242: Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.

Plus the TARDIS itself takes The Doctor where he needs to be, not where he wants to be.

The TARDIS rules are a little bendy.
But dialogue does seem to indicate that it's a bad idea to leave in the middle of events you've altered or affected, and even moreso to pop back in having given yourself more time. I suppose there's always the danger of something you do elsewhere in time having an effect on the action you left from, and vice versa.
Imagine, Dalek army invading Earth. "Boots" on the ground, cities in flames. Leaving to stop it beforehand causes a paradox, as well as any changes you make to the past potentially altering the Dalek invasion. Also, at any point you leave for the future during the Dalek invasion, time would proceed as if the Daleks had simply killed you, , you would arrive in future where the Daleks had won, and you run the risk of never being able to return to when you left and "set things right".
It makes more sense than anything out of Star Trek or Back to the Future.

/And for that matter, going to the End of Time makes you immune to changes in your timeline. So Marle disappeared at the beginning of the game because she wasn't immune yet. Since the End of Time is a neutral point, a place with no time, it shields you from additional changes since it acts as your origin point, rather than your actual birth.
//Give us Chrono Break you sons of biatches, not FFXIII-2. ...


And now to bring the thread together
 
2011-12-15 07:22:37 PM
I think another part of the Tardis dilemma that they have been quietly touching on in recent years is that there is some sense that the Doctor needs to prove how clever. If he can just Tardis-out as a way of solving something, then he really can't show off in front of his companions.
 
2011-12-15 07:24:33 PM
I'm interested in seeing how they solve the "Doctor Who??? thing. They can't possibly give his name unless it's also the series finale.
 
2011-12-15 07:39:56 PM
twat_waffle: The TARDIS can solve some problems, but not all of them, and the Doctor doesn't really know how to pilot it very well. I think that perhaps he is a bit insecure in his piloting abilities, and so won't use it to solve problems because of the precision required to pilot it to the exact right moment of time and space.

Yet River has at least twice trusted the Doctor and his piloting abilities with her life.
She jumped out of an airlock and off a skyscraper with just the assumption that the Tardis would appear at the exact right time and place.
 
2011-12-15 07:41:35 PM
twat_waffle:
Notice how River Song didn't arrive to Demon's Run until after the fighting was over? She knew that she couldn't be there or else she may cause a paradox.


But the Doctor spoke to Amy in the Byzantium seconds after his earlier self walked off and could only have been a few yards away.
 
2011-12-15 07:55:02 PM
Lord Dimwit: I'm interested in seeing how they solve the "Doctor Who??? thing. They can't possibly give his name unless it's also the series finale.

Sure they can - his name could be

Doctor Nyverranyamanatoniminsoptotisandratinshinbin. Linbinshammygunnygunnyluckcakesthomas. Junior.

Now you know why he avoids answering the question.

And why, even immediately after hearing it, the question bears repeating.
 
2011-12-15 08:31:51 PM
Jedi_Templar: Sergeant Grumbles: texdent: apeiron242: Just finished season one of the current batch (the Eccleston/Piper season). My impression so far:

The TARDIS is a plot hole shot gun. It makes Star Trek look solid. Most of the time the TARDIS could solve the problem with ease. He almost avoids using it to fix the problem and rarely explains why. The real answer is usually: so the problem is actually a problem. At times i find that tiresome.

The episode where Rose meets her father damn near made me cry. My wife did.

The show deserves budget as ambitious as the story so the effects won't be so cheap and cheesy.

Plus the TARDIS itself takes The Doctor where he needs to be, not where he wants to be.

The TARDIS rules are a little bendy.
But dialogue does seem to indicate that it's a bad idea to leave in the middle of events you've altered or affected, and even moreso to pop back in having given yourself more time. I suppose there's always the danger of something you do elsewhere in time having an effect on the action you left from, and vice versa.
Imagine, Dalek army invading Earth. "Boots" on the ground, cities in flames. Leaving to stop it beforehand causes a paradox, as well as any changes you make to the past potentially altering the Dalek invasion. Also, at any point you leave for the future during the Dalek invasion, time would proceed as if the Daleks had simply killed you, , you would arrive in future where the Daleks had won, and you run the risk of never being able to return to when you left and "set things right".
It makes more sense than anything out of Star Trek or Back to the Future.

/And for that matter, going to the End of Time makes you immune to changes in your timeline. So Marle disappeared at the beginning of the game because she wasn't immune yet. Since the End of Time is a neutral point, a place with no time, it shields you from additional changes since it acts as your origin point, rather than your actual birth.
//Give us Chrono Break you sons of biatc ...


I love you both. That was hilarious! This is coming from a mad CT fan, btw...
 
2011-12-15 08:54:11 PM
Flint Ironstag: twat_waffle:
Notice how River Song didn't arrive to Demon's Run until after the fighting was over? She knew that she couldn't be there or else she may cause a paradox.

But the Doctor spoke to Amy in the Byzantium seconds after his earlier self walked off and could only have been a few yards away.


That wasn't Tardis piloting, that was his timeline running in reverse after he hit the reset button on the entire universe in Big Bang.
 
2011-12-15 09:20:45 PM
snowshovel: I think another part of the Tardis dilemma that they have been quietly touching on in recent years is that there is some sense that the Doctor needs to prove how clever. If he can just Tardis-out as a way of solving something, then he really can't show off in front of his companions.

Clever charismatic yet insane adrenaline junkie.
 
2011-12-15 09:28:03 PM
Dr J Zoidberg
My step sister works at BBC America in New York and met her and the doctor. She said Karen was very quiet and that was apparently because she was hungover from partying her ass off as soon as she got into town.


Well, there was an article linked here about how she was found naked and whimpering in the hotel corridor, unable to find her own room...
 
2011-12-15 09:54:53 PM
Wellon Dowd: perigee: Wheeeeee!!!

...In about 10 months, anyway...

We get a little something in 10 days to tide us over!


Apparently there will be an Easter episode in April before season 7 starts up in the fall.
 
2011-12-15 10:10:09 PM
Some of you can't read. Moffat said that he would write 5 episodes, not there would only be 5 episodes. In the next sentence he goes on to say there will be more episodes than ever before to mark the semi-centennial year.
 
2011-12-15 10:39:25 PM
Flint Ironstag: twat_waffle: The TARDIS can solve some problems, but not all of them, and the Doctor doesn't really know how to pilot it very well. I think that perhaps he is a bit insecure in his piloting abilities, and so won't use it to solve problems because of the precision required to pilot it to the exact right moment of time and space.

Yet River has at least twice trusted the Doctor and his piloting abilities with her life.
She jumped out of an airlock and off a skyscraper with just the assumption that the Tardis would appear at the exact right time and place.


In the first case she have him exact coordinates. In the second she was not that far away and in the same point in time. I think that the TARDIS being conscious helps in cases like that, too.

Flint Ironstag: twat_waffle:
Notice how River Song didn't arrive to Demon's Run until after the fighting was over? She knew that she couldn't be there or else she may cause a paradox.

But the Doctor spoke to Amy in the Byzantium seconds after his earlier self walked off and could only have been a few yards away.


The rules were different because of the whole TARDIS blowing up thing, and both Doctors were going to be erased from time anyway.
 
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