You know, the general public wouldn't have a clue how to read the raw data that comes from one of these things. What you mean is that you don't want outside experts to look at it and say the guy was speeding like a sonovabiatch, which the general public *does* understand.

Damn, this just caused my belief in fairness and honesty in police and gov't to come crashing down.
I am crestfallen.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: You know who else liked The People's Car?

Ghandi?

Republican.

One set of laws for the rich and powerful, another for the rest of us.

Is this Arizona? The GOP bastards running this state are always claiming that the voters were "misled" or "confused" or "didn't really mean to vote that way"...

A car hitting an ice patch or rolling over would lead its tires to spin faster, inaccurately suggesting a higher speed, state police spokesman David Procopio said.

This quote should be used in every trial for reckless driving where the black box data becomes evidence.

Sybarite: He was driving the people's car...said Massachusetts GOP spokesman Tim Buckley.

I didn't even know the proletariat had a car. They're really moving up in the world.

65% of poor people have a car? Fox News graphical OUTRAGE!

Eddie Adams from Torrance: You know who else liked The People's Car?

The Rock?

Riche: WTF?

Why are the police the only ones in possession of this data in the first place?


They know who proposes the cuts that lead to layoffs and hiring freezes. Always back the politicians if you're a cop...

Riche: WTF?

Why are the police the only ones in possession of this data in the first place?

Because they're in possession of the car and the data hasn't been retrieved yet.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: You know who else liked The People's Car?


?

"ice patch" "airborne wheels"

easy to tell the difference between these continuous excess speed. when a crown vic goes from 55 to 90 in less than 3 seconds, the wheels hit ice or left contact with the road. otherwise, it's speeding.

LarryDan43: Eddie Adams from Torrance: You know who else liked The People's Car?

The Rock?

Damn you, and the slow page refresh.

gopher321: What, did the hooker accidentaly kneel on the gas pedal?

Hey, that's no way to talk about a State intern!

keylock71: Anyone want to buy and extra, "A"?

No, but I see you have an extra "d" to sell.

Wait, let me guess, said politician is a democrat... Yep. Thanks Herald. We only report on dems to tell you why they're evil.

Theaetetus: Riche: WTF?

Why are the police the only ones in possession of this data in the first place?

Because they're in possession of the car and the data hasn't been deleted retrieved yet.

/ftfa

Oregon is one of those states that periodically talks about installing GPS in every private car "for tax purposes." I don't see why every public vehicle can't be fitted with a GPS that reports its speed and location to a publicly-accessible website.

/whistles innocently.
//Would look into a waiver for things like unmarked police cars, though I'd be concerned about having a loophole like that.

Dang it I was too late again. I thought I was pretty sharp pointing out how there are separate legal standards for us vs. them. Maybe I'm not the only one who sees this.

Who the fark do cops think they are? Seriously. They need to be brought down quite a few pegs.

Because the recorder will reveal that it actually was a drunk police officer doing the driving at the time.

One law for us, and another for them.

some pigs are more equal then others.

So in other words, the Mass police are saying that vehicle data recorders are untrustworthy in determining what was happening before a crash. That's a pretty big precedent...

AbbeySomeone: Damn, this just caused my belief in fairness and honesty in police and gov't to come crashing down.
I am crestfallen.


I see what you did there citizen. Come with me.

Do all new (yes, I know TFA states it was a 2007) cars have a black box or just emergency vehicles?

If so, I'm sure the insurance companies would love to see that data.

In denying the Herald's public records request, state police argued the data could be misleading. A car hitting an ice patch or rolling over would lead its tires to spin faster, inaccurately suggesting a higher speed, state police spokesman David Procopio said.

There wasn't any ice on the road last month, and if he rolled the car, he probably would have mentioned that.

And the cover up is going to cause more trouble than the data ever would.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: You know who else liked The People's Car?

The rock?

Silentbob768768: Eddie Adams from Torrance: You know who else liked The People's Car?

The rock?

...fail...rule one read thread first :(

Decide to start posting after last nights lp thread...back to the dark corners of lurking for me

Why are people demanding this data? In case he was speeding? Give me a break. The guy was on duty which means he can travel at any speed that he deems reasonable. He hit an icy patch and wrecked the car, big deal. What does a 2007 Crown Vic set you back these days? $4000? Tops. Let's all just celebrate the fact that he's alive, unless of course you wish more people died in car wrecks. Then you have more problems than can probably be fixed.