thomps: well rick perry has been busy on the campaign trail.

This.

Good. It's a barbaric practice.

all the bad guys are dead

Apparently they use to do more, until their lead executioner took an arrow to the knee.

I think even they have been shamed a bit by their talibanish love of capital punishment.

Ran out of "retards" and black people eh?

thomps: well rick perry has been busy on the campaign trail.

Everyone knows the govenor has no say in who does or does not get a death sentence, but keep farking that chicken.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: or does not get a death sentence

wut?

We're speculating about causes, but it's right in front of our faces. Criminals have just decided not to mess with Texas.

Don't you all see? It's working as a deterrent!

/sorta kinda trolly... well just a little bit.

thomps: well rick perry has been busy on the campaign trail.

Everyone knows the govenor has no say in who does or does not get a death sentence, but keep farking that chicken.


Please refrain from using facts in the comments section of the threads.

Guidette Frankentits: Ran out of "retards" and black people eh?

Arseholish one anyway. The beauty of it though, is that you just have to wait a few weeks and they'll act up again.

Hey, if you're running out of people to off, California has a shiat load of guys on death row who don't seem to be busy. Puehaps you can borrow a few...

\Mildot: California has a shiat load of guys on death row who don't seem to be busy.

The only reason the death penalty is still around in california is that there is a large group of people who demand we think of the children.

Why haven't they executed Richard Allen Davis yet?

AverageAmericanGuy: Good. It's a barbaric practice.

Maybe the number of executions are down because Texas executes for violent crime to begin with. Criminals are getting the message, therefore fewer violent crimes are being committed so less executions, etc.

We finally got through the backlog

Interesting stats (new window)

Buckyballs: Apparently they use to do more, until their lead executioner took an arrow to the knee.

Anyone ever shot the executioner (in the knee) during the execution in Solitude the first time you enter it? Does it save him?

/This is now a Skyrim thread

Menjo_Bleeko: Buckyballs: Apparently they use to do more, until their lead executioner took an arrow to the knee.

Anyone ever shot the executioner (in the knee) during the execution in Solitude the first time you enter it? Does it save him?

/This is now a Skyrim thread

I shot him in the neck with one right before he swung his axe but the guy's head still rolled off. I guess Talos willed it.

Oswald Danes unavailable for comment.

Murder is wrong. Unless we do it.

Menjo_Bleeko: Buckyballs: Apparently they use to do more, until their lead executioner took an arrow to the knee.

Anyone ever shot the executioner (in the knee) during the execution in Solitude the first time you enter it? Does it save him?

/This is now a Skyrim thread

it does, yes. you can save him i think.

also lets stop '' texecutin' '' now, plz. tis almost 2012

AverageAmericanGuy: Good. It's a barbaric practice.

At a point, Japan took everyone's swords away "to get more in line with modern society."

Nobody should have guns, violence is bad, the police and government will protect you.

There is crime and punishment. I believe strongly in capital punishment for capital crimes--people have funny ideas about what is a capital crime (theft, rape, etc.), and I stand by the crime of murder as a capital offense. Attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder, the like, the sort of things where you intend to kill someone--try to kill someone--on purpose, those are things you should die for.

This is a fuzzy line though, because there is a point where you "consider" and "plan" but haven't yet made the decision to actually go through with it. That the thought went through your mind--quite a lot, even--is not grounds for execution; if you were fully, certainly intent on it, and had begun planning--had a date, time, weapons, method for disposing the body, everything lined up for execution--then you are guilty of this offense. That point is fuzzy, and a lot of such offenders would go to jail for a long, long time instead of to the chopping block; but this creates another problem, again, as to when someone is just angry and venting, and when they have INTENT. How do you avoid putting these people in jail?

You know what's another "barbaric" practice? Corporal punishment. We think it's so wrong to beat people for their transgressions. You kick a cop, you steal a loaf of bread, whatever it is, you go to jail for 30 days. Do you know what that does to a paycheck-to-paycheck part timer, or most strung out people on salary without a month of leave--which is quite a lot of people? They miss rent, they miss car payments, they miss mortgage... they lose a month's worth of pay. Their absence is grounds for termination and replacement, so perhaps they are jobless. Now your 30, 60, 90 days prison sentence is an insurmountable burden, you become jobless and homeless, your personal possessions are destroyed or stolen (nowhere to store).

Or, we could just beat you 20 times for stealing a sandwich and send you home with a sore ass. You go to work the next day shaken and really, really not wanting to go back there and get your ass whooped again.

Crime and punishment. Such a barbaric practice. We need to take away your precious resources--time, in particular--in response to your minor crimes, and you risk possibly insurmountable destruction to the viability of your life. I mean who really steals a can of soup from the convenience store? Mostly people who can't afford food. So let's remove them from their jobs for a month or three, and see how they like that; after all, beating them would be worse, right?

Nobody has ever explained to me how capital punishment is bad for society. For a particular individual, yes--obviously for criminals, and also there is the (relatively minor) risk of executing an innocent person. But our response is unempathetic and barbaric: "We may execute an innocent man; you can't undo that. You can always let them out of jail." Yes, tell that to someone that's been in jail for 5, 8, 15 years for a murder they didn't commit--if they haven't been murdered or raped and given STDs in jail, and after they've been bankrupt on legal fees trying to get out of jail.

A man that the state won't admit they executed unjustly... there was a man convicted of arson, he had Iron Maiden posters and some skull tattoos, they used this to show he had "demonic" attitudes. The police (retards) explained how an accelerant was used, where it was used, where the fire started, etc, based on their fire analysis.

Stop.

A scientist who studies fire spread and arson--it's his major research area and his interest--looked at this. You know what? All the stuff that forensics investigators use is just mythology and superstition. The guy not only showed that the fire didn't necessarily spread the way the investigators explained it, and that the burn patterns didn't necessarily indicate use of lighter fluid or kerosene; but he proved that these things didn't happen AT ALL. He showed other conditions that caused the spread patterns seen, the burn temperatures, and he even got samples and tested for accelerants--negative, he actually proved that they didn't chemically exist in the burn areas where arson investigator superstition said they would be, which just proved he knew what the fark he was talking about.

But this is okay, because we've decided that we won't use the death penalty, because we might murder an innocent man. We'll just make sure they go to jail, because that kind of thing might happen. So, we'll continue using brain dead arson superstition to put innocent men in jail for 20 years of their lives on a murder conviction, but we didn't kill them so this is totally fine.

Put the heat on the system that finds these people guilty first. You don't like executing innocents? Then be stricter on what warrants execution. We saw this dude walk into a hospital with a shotgun, he killed 40 people, we finally took him down, there's 200 witnesses, there shouldn't even BE a trial. You know what? Hang him. With a noose, yes. Don't go sending the guy that you think is prime suspect #1 off to death row because the evidence probably sort of tells a nice story about how he's probably the guy that killed someone. I can swallow that; in fact, if the evidence is so shoddy and weak, maybe he should get 10 years instead of 20, meet you halfway.

And then maybe we can argue, well, that arson evidence, it's stupid. Not only will it save my life, but it'll cut my sentence down by half! Better get cracking on better arson investigation skills; it'll either prove he's guilty as sin or expose the evidence for the worthless crackpot witchcraft that it is, and then maybe the case against this dude falls apart and he walks free. He did it? Oh, sorry, well "we really really know he did it but nobody saw it and we can't prove it and our mysticism has been debunked" isn't enough; get better evidence.

Barbarians, all of you.

Happy Hours: Lt. Cheese Weasel: thomps: well rick perry has been busy on the campaign trail.

Everyone knows the govenor has no say in who does or does not get a death sentence, but keep farking that chicken.

Actually i think they really believe that despite the fact that it's a well known fact that gets brought up in every TX death penalty thread on Fark and just about everywhere else too.

Facts, how do they work? Do they even matter to some people?

Commutation of sentence.

king_nacho: Trolljegeren: Happy Hours: Lt. Cheese Weasel: thomps: well rick perry has been busy on the campaign trail.

Everyone knows the govenor has no say in who does or does not get a death sentence, but keep farking that chicken.

Actually i think they really believe that despite the fact that it's a well known fact that gets brought up in every TX death penalty thread on Fark and just about everywhere else too.

Facts, how do they work? Do they even matter to some people?

Commutation of sentence.

Commutation isn't an absolute right any governor has. In Texas the governor cannot fully commute a death penalty sentence, he can only give a 30 stay of execution to allow for additional judicial review. Many states choose not to put the power to overturn convictions in the hands of a single elected person that may allow their personal feelings or bias to get in the way. For instance, commuting the sentence of a friend or family member.

Oh....did not know this about Texas. Thanks.

If you support the death penalty, either you haven't thought it through sufficiently, or you are wrong.

That is all.

What happened to the express lane?

People should NOT be on death row. If caught red-handed, in the act, they should be convicted, and killed withed 24hrs. NO death row BS, feeding housing and medical cost would plummet.

This is a planned slow-down to garner media superiority by the republicans! After one get's elected it will ramp up again..It is like when democrats lower gas prices...