As a Magic fan this works out well. It puts New Jersey and the Lakers in a bidding war for Dwight. Maybe now the Lakers will offer Bynum and Gasol and the Nets will cough up every piece of value on that crappy roster to try and land Dwight instead of the insulting offer of just Lopez and worthless draft picks.

tallguywithglasseson: Also today, Bulls signed Rip Hamilton, 3 years 15 mil. Good add for Chicago.

For a guy that couldn't get playing time in Detroit I think 5 mill a year is paying too much. People remember more what Rip was instead what he actually is now.

I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey: That's like saying the Yankees and the Orioles are still rivals.

Well to be fair, they used to be pretty big ones.. though we can pinpoint the exact moment in history when the rivalry ended:

As stated earlier tonight amongst friends, he has 1.5 knees and there will be a couple of posters in it for Griffin in the dealc, but ultimately they are still The Clippers. Maaaayybe the playoffs, but don't expect much.

I'm sad... I was looking forward to watching CP3 in a Laker uniform. I wish we had more players like this:



and this:

MayoSlather: As a Magic fan this works out well. It puts New Jersey and the Lakers in a bidding war for Dwight. Maybe now the Lakers will offer Bynum and Gasol and the Nets will cough up every piece of value on that crappy roster to try and land Dwight instead of the insulting offer of just Lopez and worthless draft picks.

Hate to break it to you but Dwight Howard isn't going to be traded this season.

The Clippers got worse because of this trade. No depth at center and they got an older, more expensive player at a position they have extraordinary depth at already. This move means Randy Foye will start at SG unless they slide Chauncy over(possibility). Gordon was younger, cheaper, healthier, and a superstar in the making. Gah, the Clippers never do anything right, despite doing so much right during this offseason so far.

So where are the guys from the last few threads on this topic that said Stern was destroying the Hornets and should have done the initial Lakers deal?

I have a delicious shiat sandwich for you to have a bite of.

And, for reference, the Clippers traded a future #1 pick(nearly guaranteed for a very deep draft), a an all star #6 pick, a future all star(argument could have been made for last year) #7 pick, and a highly touted #8 pick for a an all star #4 pick who is older than 3 of the 4 players(including whoever they draft)

acella: MayoSlather: As a Magic fan this works out well. It puts New Jersey and the Lakers in a bidding war for Dwight. Maybe now the Lakers will offer Bynum and Gasol and the Nets will cough up every piece of value on that crappy roster to try and land Dwight instead of the insulting offer of just Lopez and worthless draft picks.

Hate to break it to you but Dwight Howard isn't going to be traded this season.

No idea why the Magic would even consider trading him. Sure, they'll probably lose him and get nothing after the season, but I think Orlando is a legitimate NBA title contender as they stand. Why ruin a chance (albeit a slim one) at a title so you can contend for the 8 seed for the next few years? They should go all in for a title run, and let the team crash if Howard leaves. Sort of how the Cavs are doing it now. They picked up the #1 and #4 pick last year, and they'll probably pick up a really high pick this year too. With a little luck, they might be a really good team in 2-5 years.

As for Paul, I like the idea of Paul and Griffin tag teaming (as long as they can stay healthy). But I will laugh hard if the pick the Clips traded ends up being the #1 pick for the second year running. This was a way better deal for the Hornets. They get a much better pick, they pick up about half the salary that they would have from the Lakers/Rockets trade... and they aren't stuck with Lamar Odom (not that Odom is bad, but he's clearly not the kind of player that team needs going forward).

/Baron Davis, we hardly knew ye
//Soon to be picked up by the Knicks, I'd guess

acella: MayoSlather: As a Magic fan this works out well. It puts New Jersey and the Lakers in a bidding war for Dwight. Maybe now the Lakers will offer Bynum and Gasol and the Nets will cough up every piece of value on that crappy roster to try and land Dwight instead of the insulting offer of just Lopez and worthless draft picks.

Hate to break it to you but Dwight Howard isn't going to be traded this season.

I'm hoping he somehow stays with the Mgic after his contract expires, or hoists the Larry O'Brian at the end of the season.

/Magic fan
//delusional.

tallguywithglasseson: Mavs sign Delonte West to make sure LeBron's Mom gets something for Christmas

That is a trolltastic signing. I just wonder which of the women in LeBron's wife is going to sleep with a NBA player before the finals this year. Vegas should allow betting on these things

bhcompy: And, for reference, the Clippers traded a future #1 pick(nearly guaranteed for a very deep draft), a an all star #6 pick, a future all star(argument could have been made for last year) #7 pick, and a highly touted #8 pick for a an all star #4 pick who is older than 3 of the 4 players(including whoever they draft)

Agreed. This is a bad trade for the Clippers.

AdolfOliverPanties: Stern is an extortionist. Watching Griffin and Paul should be fun though.

As a Laker fan, I'd have to say that so far, Jim Buss's first year of taking over the reigns from his dad has show him to be a complete and utter tool. Odom trade, the coach hire, this debacle, the firing of almost all of the staff from before. REally sad to see a great organization in the hands of a petulant child.

Brian Shaw should have been the head coach. Adding Mike Brown and losing Odom is going to make this a crap season.

bahamasorbust: Brian Shaw should have been the head coach.

Shaw(or any friend of Kobe) wasn't the answer. The team really needed someone who could exert control over the people. An active manager. Brown comes off an appeaser already, which is what Jackson was known for. It was a role made for a Larry Brown type

This is good news for... Bill Simmons.

AdolfOliverPanties: Stern is an extortionist. Watching Griffin and Paul should be fun though.

As a Laker fan, I'd have to say that so far, Jim Buss's first year of taking over the reigns from his dad has show him to be a complete and utter tool. Odom trade, the coach hire, this debacle, the firing of almost all of the staff from before. REally sad to see a great organization in the hands of a petulant child.

This sums my thoughts precisely, especially about Jim Buss. Also, lol at that guy white-knighting for David Stern.

/The farker still needs to go

oMaJoJ: AdolfOliverPanties: Stern is an extortionist. Watching Griffin and Paul should be fun though.

As a Laker fan, I'd have to say that so far, Jim Buss's first year of taking over the reigns from his dad has show him to be a complete and utter tool. Odom trade, the coach hire, this debacle, the firing of almost all of the staff from before. REally sad to see a great organization in the hands of a petulant child.

This sums my thoughts precisely, especially about Jim Buss. Also, lol at that guy white-knighting for David Stern.

/The farker still needs to go

And what sort of beverage will you be having with your shiat sandwich?

bhcompy: And, for reference, the Clippers traded a future #1 pick(nearly guaranteed for a very deep draft), a an all star #6 pick, a future all star(argument could have been made for last year) #7 pick, and a highly touted #8 pick for a an all star #4 pick who is older than 3 of the 4 players(including whoever they draft)

That. Trade rape.

All I know is Kwame farking Brown got a 7 million dollar contract yesterday. How did the lockout change things again?

The NBA is farked.

tallguywithglasseson: Also today, Bulls signed Rip Hamilton, 3 years 15 mil. Good add for Chicago.

Rip sucks fat cock now...washed up

I'm not too worried. Donald Sterling will boo Chris and call him something nasty during a bad stretch. He won't last past 2013. Griffin will leave, too. The Magic won't get past the second round of the playoffs, and Dwight will bolt for the Lakers as a free agent. Then, Jim Buss gets lost at sea, the local aerospace industry develops a flying mind control drone, and we kidnap Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant. Lakers win championships from 2014 through 2020.

Trocadero: I'm not too worried. Donald Sterling will boo Chris and call him something nasty during a bad stretch. He won't last past 2013. Griffin will leave, too. The Magic won't get past the second round of the playoffs, and Dwight will bolt for the Lakers as a free agent. Then, Jim Buss gets lost at sea, the local aerospace industry develops a flying mind control drone, and we kidnap Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant. Lakers win championships from 2014 through 2020.

So not 1, not 2, not 3...

neaorin: Pyro Messiah: All I know is Kwame farking Brown got a 7 million dollar contract yesterday. How did the lockout change things again?

He got a one year deal. Before the lockout he would have gotten five years and 50 million.

Brown was actually serviceable under assistant coach Charles Oakley.

Huh. The Hornets legitimately got a better deal for Paul than the one that got vetoed. That Timberwolves pick should be top 5 at worst, and has a good chance of being #1 overall.

Good for them.

Pyro Messiah: All I know is Kwame farking Brown got a 7 million dollar contract yesterday. How did the lockout change things again?

The NBA is farked.

No farking way, nobody could be dumb enough to give him $7mil

*googles Kwame Brown signs*

Hahaha you suck Warriors.

Obtuse_Otter: oMaJoJ: AdolfOliverPanties: Stern is an extortionist. Watching Griffin and Paul should be fun though.

As a Laker fan, I'd have to say that so far, Jim Buss's first year of taking over the reigns from his dad has show him to be a complete and utter tool. Odom trade, the coach hire, this debacle, the firing of almost all of the staff from before. REally sad to see a great organization in the hands of a petulant child.

This sums my thoughts precisely, especially about Jim Buss. Also, lol at that guy white-knighting for David Stern.

/The farker still needs to go

And what sort of beverage will you be having with your shiat sandwich?

"He didn't like what David Stern did, so he must have wanted the Lakers deal." I didn't want Chris Paul on the Lakers, not for the cost of gutting the frontcourt. I don't think anybody likes that deal in a couple years if Paul's knee doesn't keep, seeing as he was likely to sign long-term and I don't think the new boss is even thinking that far, so the Lakers fan in me is saying "Hey, maybe we dodged a bullet." The NBA fan in me just wants Stern gone at this point before he can pull any more bullshiat. Yes, I believe Stern farked up big time in vetoing the initial trade on vague bullshiat, wait my bad, basketball reasons. I also think the Hornets are going to be shiatty for years until they either find a new owner who actually cares or get contracted. Before when you are arguing that they didn't get enough value, that was debatable and reasonable. But now, you're white-knighting for him and that's just sad.

/Off to update my NBA 2k12 rosters

neaorin: Neeek: Huh. The Hornets legitimately got a better deal for Paul than the one that got vetoed. That Timberwolves pick should be top 5 at worst, and has a good chance of being #1 overall.

Good for them.

I think Bill Simmons is right when he says that pick may be a bit overrated. They added a few pieces (Rubio for one), a couple other teams got worse, and they actually have a good coach now. Rick Adelman has a nasty habit of getting his teams to overachieve. I think that pick has very slim chances of ending up #1 or even top 3 overall.

I gotta agree with Simmons here as well. The Wolves do have an interesting core of young guys, but mostly the bottom of the Eastern conference is so bad I could see the worst Western conference team end up outside of the top 5 of the next draft. The Raptors, Cavs, Pistons and Bobcats all look like utter garbage and the Wizards aren't much better. Then in the west, the Kings are a mess and, come to think of it, you could say that about quite a few Western conference teams. The Suns could easily fall apart since Steve Nash is roughly 80. It's hard to say how the Hornets will play when the entire roster is different.

The Wolves could finish ahead of the Suns and Kings in the West as well as 4 or 5 teams in the East and get a 6th or 7th pick.

/not a Wolves fan

ESPN has such a great website:

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So stern was smart to wait it out. Got want he wanted. The Laker deal didn't get the hornets picks, made them older and blew up the cap.

To the guy on the other thread who thought the leaugue would never trade Paul now and who felt that the NBA owed the Lakers because pulling out of the trade made Lamar so sad they had to trade him? I'm having a nice chuckle at your expense.

I am surprised he's willing to sign an extension with that racist owner

tallguywithglasseson: Nobody cares what position someone was drafted in.

That's funny; I was thinking the same thing.

Too bad Delonte is gone from the Celtics. I like him as a player though he had a lot of personal issues.

skinink: tallguywithglasseson: Nobody cares what position someone was drafted in.

That's funny; I was thinking the same thing.

Too bad Delonte is gone from the Celtics. I like him as a player though he had a lot of personal issues.

This. Best of luck to him.