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Mugato

2011-12-14 10:37:03 PM

In other news, Jane Fonda is still alive.

BroVinny

2011-12-14 10:55:33 PM

She'll never be Ted without the mustache.

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves

2011-12-14 10:57:13 PM

I still remember that time she acted North Vietnamese. That was hilarious.

Mugato

2011-12-14 11:08:57 PM

So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got buns, hun

Apos

2011-12-14 11:13:05 PM

Comments section of that article mirror this site's Politics tab. Scary.

bhcompy

2011-12-14 11:19:43 PM

Mugato: In other news, Jane Fonda is still alive.

Which is surprising given the number of mentally unstable vets.

/wouldn't shed a tear

Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy

2011-12-14 11:21:33 PM

I don't care what her political stance is, where she spent the Vietnam war, or who she married. I will always love Jane Fonda for two things: Barbarella and Klute.

She's a skilled actress, and she was quite pleasant to look at. She's not a politician, so I don't care about her politics; I care about her acting, and she has always done that well.

I don't hold political jackassery against Cliff Claven, either.

bhcompy

2011-12-14 11:30:35 PM

Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy: I don't care what her political stance is, where she spent the Vietnam war, or who she married. I will always love Jane Fonda for two things: Barbarella and Klute.

She's a skilled actress, and she was quite pleasant to look at. She's not a politician, so I don't care about her politics; I care about her acting, and she has always done that well.

I don't hold political jackassery against Cliff Claven, either.

I hear this often, but then Dennis Miller comes up and the argument seems to fall apart.

Mildot

2011-12-14 11:40:45 PM

Never Forget... Never Forgive...

angrywhitedude.com

/She is some kind of coont.

Hydra

2011-12-14 11:46:11 PM

Apos: Comments section of that article mirror this site's Politics tab. Scary.

A circlejerk of progressives trash-talking Republicans/libertarians while only wishing Obama was more radical?

Misconduc

2011-12-14 11:46:56 PM

Hanoi Jane thread?

www.1stcavmedic.com

fusillade762

2011-12-14 11:47:33 PM

You worthless bong jockeys aren't fit to lick Teddy Jr's bunghole!

i.cdn.turner.com

the opposite of charity is justice

2011-12-14 11:48:00 PM

bhcompy: I hear this often, but then Dennis Miller comes up and the argument seems to fall apart.

In Mr. Miller's case its not merely his politics, I think the vitriol comes from two other sources:

1) He came across as a rather liberal guy in his earlier days then took a hard-right turn. Either he was lying then or he is lying now (heck, maybe both) to pander to his target audience. (don't buy that he just drifted right with age)

2) Hes just not funny anymore.

Misconduc

2011-12-14 11:48:16 PM

Jane Fonda applauding an NVA anti-aircraft gun crew. These guns were used to shoot down American planes and contributed to the deaths of American Airmen.

Misconduc

2011-12-14 11:48:58 PM

Jane Fonda laughing with an NVA gun crew.
www.1stcavmedic.com

Dwight_Yeast

2011-12-14 11:55:44 PM

Misconduc: Jane Fonda laughing with an NVA gun crew.
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Are you arguing that the US Army and the South Vietnamese were in the right?

Edgewood Dirk

2011-12-15 12:01:32 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Misconduc: Jane Fonda laughing with an NVA gun crew.
[www.1stcavmedic.com image 275x207]

Are you arguing that the US Army and the South Vietnamese were in the right?

Doesnt matter, she betrayed her country.

hope she dies long and painfully.

bhcompy

2011-12-15 12:03:05 AM

the opposite of charity is justice: bhcompy: I hear this often, but then Dennis Miller comes up and the argument seems to fall apart.

In Mr. Miller's case its not merely his politics, I think the vitriol comes from two other sources:

1) He came across as a rather liberal guy in his earlier days then took a hard-right turn. Either he was lying then or he is lying now (heck, maybe both) to pander to his target audience. (don't buy that he just drifted right with age)

2) Hes just not funny anymore.

People change. General direction is liberal youth to conservative with age. Various reasons for it, but that's the general case. Look at Boomers. Drugs, sex, free love, protests, etc. Very liberal youth. Then they got all they wanted and now all they want is for the status quo to stay as it is(which would be a conservative viewpoint), such as not touching their Social Security, Medicare, etc entitlements they're due already or in the very near future.

Hydra

2011-12-15 12:03:23 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Misconduc: Jane Fonda laughing with an NVA gun crew.
[www.1stcavmedic.com image 275x207]

Are you arguing that the US Army and the South Vietnamese were in the right?

She was castigating American soldiers who were farking drafted. They had no choice.

/keep toeing that partisan line, though, or your overlords won't be pleased

Edgewood Dirk

2011-12-15 12:05:37 AM

bhcompy

2011-12-15 12:13:37 AM

Edgewood Dirk: bhcompy: the opposite of charity is justice: bhcompy: I hear this often, but then Dennis Miller comes up and the argument seems to fall apart.

In Mr. Miller's case its not merely his politics, I think the vitriol comes from two other sources:

1) He came across as a rather liberal guy in his earlier days then took a hard-right turn. Either he was lying then or he is lying now (heck, maybe both) to pander to his target audience. (don't buy that he just drifted right with age)

2) Hes just not funny anymore.

People change. General direction is liberal youth to conservative with age. Various reasons for it, but that's the general case. Look at Boomers. Drugs, sex, free love, protests, etc. Very liberal youth. Then they got all they wanted and now all they want is for the status quo to stay as it is(which would be a conservative viewpoint), such as not touching their Social Security, Medicare, etc entitlements they're due already or in the very near future.

Occupy Much?

And when those Gen Y kids get what they want they'll want to keep it when they're old, too.

drewogatory

2011-12-15 01:07:47 AM

And Aaron Sorkin is farking awful. This show is going to suck balls anyway.

odinsposse

2011-12-15 01:09:11 AM

bhcompy: the opposite of charity is justice: bhcompy: I hear this often, but then Dennis Miller comes up and the argument seems to fall apart.

In Mr. Miller's case its not merely his politics, I think the vitriol comes from two other sources:

1) He came across as a rather liberal guy in his earlier days then took a hard-right turn. Either he was lying then or he is lying now (heck, maybe both) to pander to his target audience. (don't buy that he just drifted right with age)

2) Hes just not funny anymore.

People change. General direction is liberal youth to conservative with age. Various reasons for it, but that's the general case. Look at Boomers. Drugs, sex, free love, protests, etc. Very liberal youth. Then they got all they wanted and now all they want is for the status quo to stay as it is(which would be a conservative viewpoint), such as not touching their Social Security, Medicare, etc entitlements they're due already or in the very near future.

That's not really the case at all. There were only a small number of boomers who were hippies. I've met a lot that are still hippies. The boomers who are conservative and entitled were conservative and entitled in their youth as well. In fact, there's research that says we get more liberal as we age. Probably due to encountering more of the world and becoming more tolerant, like city populations encounter a wider variety of people and also tend to be more liberal.

DeaH

2011-12-15 01:13:44 AM

bhcompy: Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy: I don't care what her political stance is, where she spent the Vietnam war, or who she married. I will always love Jane Fonda for two things: Barbarella and Klute.

She's a skilled actress, and she was quite pleasant to look at. She's not a politician, so I don't care about her politics; I care about her acting, and she has always done that well.

I don't hold political jackassery against Cliff Claven, either.

I hear this often, but then Dennis Miller comes up and the argument seems to fall apart.

If Dennis Miller still had the funny, you might have an argument. A better example is Kelsey Grammar. He endorsed Bachmann for president in the 2012 election. Not only is that right-wing, it's nutsy right-wing. And Grammar still got (deservedly) glowing reviews for Boss, even in very left-wing publications.

bhcompy

2011-12-15 01:16:26 AM

odinsposse: robably due to encountering more of the world and becoming more tolerant, like city populations encounter a wider variety of people and also tend to be more liberal.

Tolerance isn't defined by political ideology

bhcompy

2011-12-15 01:19:13 AM

DeaH: If Dennis Miller still had the funny, you might have an argument. A better example is Kelsey Grammar. He endorsed Bachmann for president in the 2012 election. Not only is that right-wing, it's nutsy right-wing. And Grammar still got (deservedly) glowing reviews for Boss, even in very left-wing publications.

Part of that is because he got very little real press over that, and the other part is that he can live off Frasier forever in that circle. Single highly educated urbanite in Seattle? Shiat.

Rubber Biscuit

2011-12-15 01:40:55 AM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I still remember that time she acted North Vietnamese. That was hilarious.

You must be, like, seventy by now, right?

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tetzy

2011-12-15 02:47:10 AM

Too bad - I won't watch anything she's in.

stoli n coke

2011-12-15 02:54:29 AM

tetzy: Too bad - I won't watch anything she's in.

Why, because her personal politics are very liberal? Did the fact that he cast Martin Sheen make West Wing a bad show?

It's Sorkin. As long as Fonda sticks to the farkin script, I'm sure it'll be fine.

Dwight_Yeast

2011-12-15 07:04:23 AM

Edgewood Dirk: Doesnt matter, she betrayed her country.

What do you mean "it doesn't matter"? Did Henry Ford and Lindberg "betray our country" when they supported Hitler?

varmitydog

2011-12-15 07:59:07 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!

2011-12-15 08:39:14 AM

What's a Jane Fonda thread doing in the Entertainment tab instead of the Politics tab?

/you got politics in my entertainment
//you got entertainment in my politics
//TWO GREAT TASTES THAT TASTE GREAT TOGETHER!

farscape

2011-12-15 08:43:12 AM

Mildot: Never Forget... Never Forgive...

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/She is some kind of coont.

Indeed. DIAF.

skinink

2011-12-15 08:50:04 AM

I bet the same people who wouldn't watch a Jane Fonda movie would have no problem watching a Mel Gibson movie, even though he's a misogynist, Jew hating piece of shiat.

Waxing_Chewbacca

2011-12-15 09:07:01 AM

Should have cast a mostly always naked Amy Gardner... Then again there's always Weeds.

Genju

2011-12-15 09:16:23 AM

CAPTAIN PLANET!

bhcompy

2011-12-15 10:07:03 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Edgewood Dirk: Doesnt matter, she betrayed her country.

What do you mean "it doesn't matter"? Did Henry Ford and Lindberg "betray our country" when they supported Hitler?

Treason is a capital crime and should never be taken lightly, regardless of who did it. It can be argued that Fonda didn't provide "aid and comfort" to the NVA, but she definitely adhered to the enemy. Many would argue that moral support is comfort as defined for treason, but it's something that would obviously make its way up to the Supreme Court given that there was no material information exchanged and would be more difficult to prosecute without the power of the unconstitutional Sedition Act behind it.

Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy

2011-12-15 10:08:50 AM

If we're going to focus on things she did over 40 years ago, let us focus on the positive.

The_Knarf

2011-12-15 10:32:33 AM

It happened on my last day in Hanoi. I was exhausted and an emotional wreck after the 2-week visit ... The translator told me that the soldiers wanted to sing me a song. He translated as they sung. It was a song about the day 'Uncle Ho' declared their country's independence in Hanoi's Ba Dinh Square. I heard these words: "All men are created equal; they are given certain rights; among these are life, Liberty and Happiness." These are the words Ho pronounced at the historic ceremony. I began to cry and clap. These young men should not be our enemy. They celebrate the same words Americans do. The soldiers asked me to sing for them in return ... I memorized a song called Day Ma Di, written by anti-war South Vietnamese students. I knew I was slaughtering it, but everyone seemed delighted that I was making the attempt. I finished. Everyone was laughing and clapping, including me ... Here is my best, honest recollection of what happened: someone (I don't remember who) led me towards the gun, and I sat down, still laughing, still applauding. It all had nothing to do with where I was sitting. I hardly even thought about where I was sitting. The cameras flashed ... It is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese had it all planned. I will never know. But if they did I can't blame them. The buck stops here. If I was used, I allowed it to happen ... a two-minute lapse of sanity that will haunt me forever ... But the photo exists, delivering its message regardless of what I was doing or feeling. I carry this heavy in my heart. I have apologized numerous times for any pain I may have caused servicemen and their families because of this photograph. It was never my intention to cause harm.[32]

/not taking sides
//just sayin
///ducks

Mr_Fabulous

2011-12-15 12:06:04 PM

Mildot: Never Forget... Never Forgive...

[angrywhitedude.com image 378x480]

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/She is some kind of coont.

I think it's probably time to let it go, man.

I visited Hanoi earlier this year. Almost no one there remembers the American War today, and the ones who do simply don't give a shiat anymore. And that's after we bombed them to hell and back, and killed a lot of their people.

They aren't carrying a grudge. Why are you?

Let it go.

pute kisses like a man

2011-12-15 12:59:54 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: bhcompy: I hear this often, but then Dennis Miller comes up and the argument seems to fall apart.

In Mr. Miller's case its not merely his politics, I think the vitriol comes from two other sources:

1) He came across as a rather liberal guy in his earlier days then took a hard-right turn. Either he was lying then or he is lying now (heck, maybe both) to pander to his target audience. (don't buy that he just drifted right with age)

2) Hes just not funny anymore.

or, he changed his mind. why can't people change their minds? I've changed my political mind several times. I was much more libertarian/conservative before I went to law school. But law school gave me many sads (it was a jesuit lawschool devoted to making good lawyers, not necessarily rich lawyers), and opened my eyes to interesting new historical, philosophical, and pragmatic considerations regarding government's purpose.

/ well, i think I just stopped supporting conservative politics because I'd rather be taxed to death than suffer the embarrassment of being associated with those nutjobs.

but, he changed his mind when 9/11 happened. 9/11 flipped him into a very reactionary guy. i still think he's funny, but his politics are exceptionally not interesting to me.

OtherLittleGuy

2011-12-15 01:37:55 PM

bhcompy: DeaH: If Dennis Miller still had the funny, you might have an argument. A better example is Kelsey Grammar. He endorsed Bachmann for president in the 2012 election. Not only is that right-wing, it's nutsy right-wing. And Grammar still got (deservedly) glowing reviews for Boss, even in very left-wing publications.

Part of that is because he got very little real press over that, and the other part is that he can live off Frasier forever in that circle. Single highly educated urbanite in Seattle? Shiat.

I'll add two more examples for "FARK loves the characters, but hate the politics of the actors":