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(New York Daily News) Followup "Jason Bourne's got his memory back three times in a row now... It's not amnesia, you have a learning disability," said the star regarding his return to the franchise, adding, "MAAAAATT DAAAAAMON"   (nydailynews.com) divider line 27
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2011-12-14 05:54:45 PM
They all kind of ran together to me. A lot of blurry fighting and quickly edited car chases. Mat Damon asking everyone who he is and telling people that he's watching them with a sniper rifle and that big faced girl looking scared and the skeletor woman being all pissed off. The girl from Run Lola Run was in a couple of them but they killed her. I got the gist.
 
2011-12-14 08:26:34 PM
I hope they hire a cameraman without Parkinson's this time.
 
2011-12-14 08:34:01 PM
Shaky cam problems aside,The Bourne Ultimatum was actually the best of the trilogy IMO.
 
2011-12-14 08:41:57 PM
I like the "Bourne" movies. They do what they do very well, and are at least moderately clever. I like my action movies to have action that at least *seems* to have a point. Like "Taken". The BEST "spy" "government operative kicks ass" movie, though, is "Spartan", with Val Kilmer, written and directed by David Mamet. If you haven't seen it, rent it now.
 
2011-12-14 08:47:15 PM
realmolo: The BEST "spy" "government operative kicks ass" movie, though, is "Spartan", with Val Kilmer, written and directed by David Mamet. If you haven't seen it, rent it now.

I'll check it out, purely because I love that sort of movie.

/too bad Jackal sucked
//great premise
 
2011-12-14 08:50:37 PM
blackminded: realmolo: The BEST "spy" "government operative kicks ass" movie, though, is "Spartan", with Val Kilmer, written and directed by David Mamet. If you haven't seen it, rent it now.

I'll check it out, purely because I love that sort of movie.

/too bad Jackal sucked
//great premise


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2011-12-14 09:08:22 PM
I liked The Bourne Supremacy the best, but all three were very good. Still think the 'shaky' cam problems were far overstated. .
 
2011-12-14 09:15:00 PM
realmolo: The BEST "spy" "government operative kicks ass" movie, though, is "Spartan", with Val Kilmer, written and directed by David Mamet. If you haven't seen it, rent it now.

Agreed, Spartan is awesome. It also has the bonus of being Kristen Bell's first major film role.
 
2011-12-14 09:17:50 PM
Of all the movies I've seen hop on the "shaky cam" bangwagon, I think Supremacy/Ultimatum handle it the best.

There's a reason everyone else is doing it now, people.
 
2011-12-14 09:21:57 PM
Damon will always be Edgar Pudwhacker to me
 
2011-12-14 09:27:09 PM
Goddamn Spartan is such a good f*cking movie.
 
2011-12-14 10:12:43 PM
I downloaded and watched the trilogy back-to-back-to-back once, and to this day I still have not the foggiest farking clue what was supposed to be happening in those flicks.

Something about a guy perpetually on the run, and outwitting people using technology and cell phones. And then a bunch of action scenes happen that never let you see the action, so you're left in utter confusion about what is happening and who is where and how he got into -- and out of -- that predicament. It's all guesswork when the screen is full of shoulders and elbows and spastic takes, cut aways and quick pans. It's like an internal struggle between the viewer who wants to see what's happening and the director and cinematographer who continuously make the viewer see something else.

Viewer: "Wait, go back! What was that in the corner of the room?"
Cinematographer: "No, come look at this. He sees a window and he knows he can escape from it."
Viewer: "Stop for a second. He should close the door first, but I think I saw a gun on the table in the corner. He can use that."
Cinematographer: "No, here's a quick shot of a newspaper that has the city on it. That's how he knows where he is."
Viewer: "That's fine, but it's not really important. Are they still tracking him from his last call?"
Cinematographer: "Okay, now the antagonist is heading up the stairs."
Viewer: "Which stairs? Does he know wh-"
Cinematographer: "There's a car down on the street pulling up to the building."
Viewer: "What does that car have to d-"
Cinematographer: "Hey look, a squirrel!"
Viewer: "fark off! Stop jumping around from shot to shot."
Cinematographer: "A fist punches Jason in the back of the head!"
Viewer: "WHO'S?!?!?"
Cinematographer: "Fight scene! Here's an elbow!"
Viewer: "I can't even tell how many people there are. Can you pan back a bit and let me see the entire thing?"
Cinematographer: "A knee! The guy wearing black gets flipped over and pinned!"
Viewer: "They're both wearing black. Is that Jason?"
Cinematographer: "Punches, MMA style!"
Viewer: "Why doesn't he just shoot him?"
Cinematographer: "Jason wins, and runs out the building."
Viewer: "I have no idea how he won when he was just pinned and receiving punches 5 seconds ago."
Cinematographer: "Here's the CIA doods tracking his location."
Viewer: *sigh*

It is really really REALLY frustrating to watch a movie in this manner.

Underneath this god damn mess was the heart of a really good story. But by the third movie the shakey style was overused so much it became cliche/parody. The whole franchise is utterly unwatchable. I'm not interested in freeze-framing to find out what's going on.
 
2011-12-14 10:55:31 PM
Is Sarah Silverman still farking him?
 
2011-12-14 11:47:15 PM
The version with Richard Chamberlain pissed all over the 2002 movie alleged to be based on the book. Based on that, the sequels must have also sucked.
 
2011-12-15 12:01:43 AM
Someothermonkey: I liked The Bourne Supremacy the best, but all three were very good. Still think the 'shaky' cam problems were far overstated. .

I didnt see the issue at all, for scenes on the run it moved around to give the audience an anxious feel of trying to escape, when the scenes were normal then the shots were steady, people are just looking for a reason to complain most of the time.

I just wish they would string together like 3 or 4 of these together before everyone gets too old to make these films.

And I just know they are going to do a prequel so they can get the shiatty Shia in the series, god I hate that little twerp.
 
2011-12-15 12:44:50 AM
same movie shot three times

just like the novels

sequelitis
 
2011-12-15 12:55:33 AM
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2011-12-15 06:11:42 AM
Loved the story in the movies, but the shaky cam gave me a migraine. Watching them again would be slow torture.
 
2011-12-15 09:07:57 AM
ToxicMunkee: Goddamn Spartan is such a good f*cking movie.

This is...MAAATTT DAAAMON (new window)
 
2011-12-15 09:39:26 AM
Before watching the Bourne movies, I had no idea that a Rus taxi cab and a VW Tour Egg could take that level of punishment and still be drivable; I *sooooo* needs me a Russian taxi cab for the daily commute!

/ ♪ Shaky cam, shaky cam, why have they been sha-king youuuu? ♫ [sung to the tune of "Smelly Cat"]
 
2011-12-15 09:46:43 AM
realmolo: The BEST "spy" "government operative kicks ass" movie, though, is "Spartan", with Val Kilmer, written and directed by David Mamet. If you haven't seen it, rent it now.

Spartan
was great, but my problem with David Mamet fillms is that EVERYTHING serves the script and , as a result some of the best actors around come off looking uncomfortable and wooden, i.e. Joe Mantegna in House of Games. The only actor I've seen really shine in one of his movies is Steve Martin in The Spanish Prisoner. They're all very fine films, but Mamet doesn't seem to want to let his actors act.

I have loved all the Bourne movies, but can see where they've run their course. And I totally respect Damon for not wanting to do another just for the payday
 
2011-12-15 10:39:39 AM
The Bourne movies are incredible. Absolutely incredible. Realistic, gritty, smart, and rewatchable. I don't have any issues with shaky cam at all. I like Identity the best because it's got the most backstory and exploration.

They're all great though. IMO one of the great trilogies in recent memory, and each movie stands as very good on it's own.

Remade the spy movie genre. No longer does the James Bond "JUDO CHOP" to the neck suffice. No longer does crap combat suffice. No longer does the horribly weak James Bond chase scene work. The scene in the embassy where he downs those 3 guys is pure awesome win. In my family "red bag, stop right there!" has become a catch phrase.

And I say all of this as a huge Bond fan.

I respect the hell out of Damon for not just cashing a check. The movies ran their course and it would be tough to put together a plausible plot that would work, unless you brought him back into the fold and he worked against our enemies.

I wish they would have made 10 of them, but I'll live with the 3 awesome movies I got.
 
2011-12-15 10:56:48 AM
Boxingoutsider: The Bourne movies are incredible. Absolutely incredible. Realistic, gritty, smart, and rewatchable. I don't have any issues with shaky cam at all. I like Identity the best because it's got the most backstory and exploration.

They're all great though. IMO one of the great trilogies in recent memory, and each movie stands as very good on it's own.

Remade the spy movie genre. No longer does the James Bond "JUDO CHOP" to the neck suffice. No longer does crap combat suffice. No longer does the horribly weak James Bond chase scene work. The scene in the embassy where he downs those 3 guys is pure awesome win. In my family "red bag, stop right there!" has become a catch phrase.

And I say all of this as a huge Bond fan.

I respect the hell out of Damon for not just cashing a check. The movies ran their course and it would be tough to put together a plausible plot that would work, unless you brought him back into the fold and he worked against our enemies.

I wish they would have made 10 of them, but I'll live with the 3 awesome movies I got.


Yep, exactly. The fight scenes were fantastic, and I loved that the car chase scene in the first one was some little crappy car in stead of a "Bond car" that seemed to be the norm till then. And no big, unecessary explosions for once. The storyline was great as well.

I liked the first one so much, that I decided to read the book. Typically I always like the book better, but aside from a few more interesting character facts (Bourne being older, the girl in the first movie actually being some kind of respectable financial VP or something) it was a pretty bad read. So bad I ended up not even finishing it, which is extremely rare for me.
 
2011-12-15 11:01:11 AM
Ishkur: I downloaded and watched the trilogy back-to-back-to-back once, and to this day I still have not the foggiest farking clue what was supposed to be happening in those flicks.

Something about a guy perpetually on the run, and outwitting people using technology and cell phones. And then a bunch of action scenes happen that never let you see the action, so you're left in utter confusion about what is happening and who is where and how he got into -- and out of -- that predicament. It's all guesswork when the screen is full of shoulders and elbows and spastic takes, cut aways and quick pans. It's like an internal struggle between the viewer who wants to see what's happening and the director and cinematographer who continuously make the viewer see something else.

Viewer: "Wait, go back! What was that in the corner of the room?"
Cinematographer: "No, come look at this. He sees a window and he knows he can escape from it."
Viewer: "Stop for a second. He should close the door first, but I think I saw a gun on the table in the corner. He can use that."
Cinematographer: "No, here's a quick shot of a newspaper that has the city on it. That's how he knows where he is."
Viewer: "That's fine, but it's not really important. Are they still tracking him from his last call?"
Cinematographer: "Okay, now the antagonist is heading up the stairs."
Viewer: "Which stairs? Does he know wh-"
Cinematographer: "There's a car down on the street pulling up to the building."
Viewer: "What does that car have to d-"
Cinematographer: "Hey look, a squirrel!"
Viewer: "fark off! Stop jumping around from shot to shot."
Cinematographer: "A fist punches Jason in the back of the head!"
Viewer: "WHO'S?!?!?"
Cinematographer: "Fight scene! Here's an elbow!"
Viewer: "I can't even tell how many people there are. Can you pan back a bit and let me see the entire thing?"
Cinematographer: "A knee! The guy wearing black gets flipped over and pinned!"
Viewer: "They're both wearing black. Is that Jason?"
Cinematograp ...


Grandpa?
 
2011-12-15 11:52:32 AM
Also a very good spy genre film - Spy Game (Redford/Pitt)

Discuss
 
2011-12-15 01:23:32 PM
The Bourne movies are great. 2's the best IMO; a lot of people prefer 3, but I found it too closely re-hashed 2. YMMV.

Props to Damon for having the common sense to stop at three. Goddamn do I hate fourth movies. They never work (unless part of a larger series ala Bond, Harry Potter, etc), they're always twenty years too late (Indy 4, Die Hard 4, Star Wars PT), and they uniformly misunderstand what made the originals great.

However, you could argue that there was a fourth Bourne movie: Green Zone.
 
2011-12-15 01:40:35 PM
Boxingoutsider: Remade the spy movie genre. No longer does the James Bond "JUDO CHOP" to the neck suffice. No longer does crap combat suffice. No longer does the horribly weak James Bond chase scene work

I think austin powers had just as much to do with killing that shiat off as bourne, mocking makes it go away.
 
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