I thought lawyers were already f*cking everybody.

imprimere: I thought lawyers were already f*cking everybody.

I work with a lot of lawyers and I tell you there are a great many I would love to fark bigtime. They should be allowed to fark their clients they are both adults.

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Pro boner? C'mon, SOMEBODY has to pay.

Sound like this lawyer is pro bono.

There's no authority dynamic in an attorney-client relationship. I don't see much need for a no-farking wall.

Kill all the lawyers.

/fark 'em first

MooseUpNorth: There's no authority dynamic in an attorney-client relationship. I don't see much need for a no-farking wall.

No authority dynamic? "F*ck me or I screw up your case"

Profedius: I work with a lot of lawyers and I tell you there are a great many I would love to fark bigtime. They should be allowed to fark their clients they are both adults.

I think it can depend on circumstances. If you're handling a one time case (divorce, criminal defense, etc) it might lead to a. taking advantage of the client (demanding favors and claiming 'we were dating') or b. unethical behavior by the lawyer to protect his/her bedmate. On the other hand I don't really see a problem with dating a lawyer who is on retainer or a corporate/tax lawyer. That's a long term relationship that's more likely to be established and hands off/as needed. In those cases "the client" could mean "the designated liaison of the corporation that has my firm on retainer". It's not really personal for the "client" in question. Though there should be full disclosure to the firm whenever a client and lawyer get involved.

I dunno. I'm going to have to consider my stance on this...



...Okay, I'm down with it.

Sticky Ricky does not approve.

What's the difference between a hooker and a lawyer?

The hooker will stop farking you when you're dead.

/oldie but goodie

Some female lawyers are farking hot. I would love to have one (if I needed one) who also had the hots for me and wanted to review her "briefs" with me late into the night.

netweavr: MooseUpNorth: There's no authority dynamic in an attorney-client relationship. I don't see much need for a no-farking wall.

No authority dynamic? "F*ck me or I screw up your case"

Heh, yeah, point.

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That was kind of rude of me. Apologies.

Pre-Law major here. Not my choice, but I wasn't paying for it.

Flunked out; became a plumber.

I make just about the same hourly rates as lawyers,

Keep burning in Hell, please, "Dad".

I am a lawyer and even if attorney-client sexual relationships were ethically "ok" I'd still say it's a dumb fraking thing to do.

Part of being an attorney is telling your client good and bad news and explaining a rational course of action to take in response. If you were romantically involved with someone it'd be way too easy to lose that objectivity. Cases would become too personal and it would impact your ability to stand back and analyze the situation and do the right thing.

The client is hiring you for your objective analysis and courtroom skills, not so he or she can get in your pants.

The lawyer in question looks extra douchey. Just saying.

These rules exist for a reason. If you're doing your usual f*cking of people in the courtroom, that leaves a proper paper trail, and you can account for all of your billable hours. If you start f*cking people on your own time, that leads to sloppy records-keeping, and inherently inaccurate billing. After all, if you f*ck them for 15 minutes, smoke a cigarette for 5 minutes, and talk about the case for 10 minutes, how do you break down your time? Clearly you can't bill the cigarette smoking, but equally clearly your hourly rate will be different for each kind of f*cking, since the level of legal expertise required varies. And what if you talk about the case while in flagrante delicto?

Proper billing is too important to risk.

Difference between a lawyer and a rooster?

The rooster clucks defiance

Suppose you are getting a divorce and your ex starts sleeping with your lawyer or her own. There is an automatic conflict of interest that will more than likely take a bigger bite out of your hide when the divorced in finalized. NO ONE is looking out for the man in that case! Men get raked over the coals in divorce cases as it is do we REALLY need lawyers advising women to sleep their way to success?
Prostitution is illegal but farking your attorney for better representation should be legal?
This guy is an even bigger scumbag than most lawyers.

"You have a real purty mouth there. It'd be a shame if you had to go to jail."

Yeah, I see no conflict of interest there at all!

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That was kind of rude of me. Apologies.



No worries.

What a tool

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Whoops, meant to add everywhere. My bad.

That was kind of rude of me. Apologies.

Pre-Law major here. Not my choice, but I wasn't paying for it.

Flunked out; became a plumber.

I make just about the same hourly rates as lawyers,

Keep burning in Hell, please, "Dad".

Joe?

metametameta: "You have a real purty mouth there. It'd be a shame if you had to go to jail."

Yeah, I see no conflict of interest there at all!

Pshh. I'm a hetero man and I'd gladly bone my lawyer en lieu of the money they charge!

Yes but my thought is they are both adults and if one party is stupid enough to be taken advantage of is that really a failure on their part? Do we really want government regulation of our sex lives, well anymore than we already have. Since the lawyer is representing the client fighting harder for a bedmate would not be a bad thing. We do have laws in place for a lawyer who is sleeping with the opposing client which is a conflict of interest. A client can fire their lawyer at anytime so the lawyer can not really screw over a client if that client breaks it off with them. So it is really all on the client to be aware of the situation.

The ethics rules are pretty clear on this point. He's a lawyer obligated to comply with the ethics rules. He didn't. Dis-Barularity ensues.

*Thinks of past clients*

Mostly no ways, some eye bleaches, a couple yeses, and one oh hell yes.

Eh, I'd rather have the fees.

So you are arrested for prostitution but you sleep with your attorney to get them to fight harder for you in court. Win or lose its just prostitution under a different name. For ethically challenged lawyers (Read ALL of them) this is a gateway to lots and lots of sex without having to actually work hard for their clients. In theory a lawyer sleeping with his client will fight harder for them but if the lawyer has no scruples or is a sociopath its just a free sex bonanza for the lawyer.

NO! No sex for Lawyers ever!
If they have sex they may breed and then we'll never be rid of the bastards.

cefm: The ethics rules are pretty clear on this point. He's a lawyer obligated to comply with the ethics rules. He didn't. Dis-Barularity ensues.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... OH shiat, YOU'RE A RIOT!

ABA model ethical rules 1.8(j):
A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced.


Fun fact: Last I heard Texas was the *only* state that had not adopted this rule yet.
The rule was proposed by the Texas Supreme Court back in January and put up for a vote by the state's lawyers. It was voted down by a huge margin.

I'm pretty sure Ontario doesn't have a similar rule, which is a result of small town lawyers saying, "Hey, if we do everyone's will in a 50k radius, who the hell can we fark?"

Sure, what could possibly go wrong with farking the guy/woman who's arguing your case in a court of law (or farking the client you're representing in a court of law)?

How could that possibly go wrong when it involves two, count 'em, two situations in which people (the non-lawyers, at least) often behave irrationally?

I don't see how this is a problem unless the lawyer ends up on the other side of a trial. Other than in education I cannot think of a single profession where worker-customer/client romance is inappropriate. You can fark your mechanic or waiter so why not your lawyer?

+1 internets, subby

netweavr: MooseUpNorth: There's no authority dynamic in an attorney-client relationship. I don't see much need for a no-farking wall.

No authority dynamic? "F*ck me or I screw up your case"

Or "fark me or the massive amount of money you have paid me or invested in my work are for nothing".

corn-bread: ABA model ethical rules 1.8(j):
A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced.


Fun fact: Last I heard Texas was the *only* state that had not adopted this rule yet.
The rule was proposed by the Texas Supreme Court back in January and put up for a vote by the state's lawyers. It was voted down by a huge margin.

Michigan does not have this rule, but one attorney did get disciplined for using the "couch of restitution" for clients that couldn't afford to pay their fees. The only way the Bar became aware of it was when one of the client's accepted and then he sent her a bill anyway, after she thought it had all been taken care of on the couch. It is still highly discouraged for lawyers to sleep with their clients, especially in domestic cases, for the main reason that divorces often do get dismissed for reconciliation, and at that point, the lawyer is very likely to find himself on the bad end of a tortious interference lawsuit from the former-ex-to-be.

Another big reason is that domestic clients tend to be very vulnerable because they're breaking up with the person they loved most in the world for many years and are looking for anything to make the pain stop, and quite frankly, sex is the best temporary cure for that problem. It is however, very temporary, and nearly always comes with regrets later.

/s/client's/clients

imprimere: metametameta: "You have a real purty mouth there. It'd be a shame if you had to go to jail."

Yeah, I see no conflict of interest there at all!

Pshh. I'm a hetero man and I'd gladly bone my lawyer en lieu of the money they charge!

That's great until you hire a lawyer who is a gay man.

As a lawyer who spent the day at an ethic and professionalism seminar, where this very issue was discussed, I'm getting a kick out of these comments.

By the way, the lawyer in the article is a bad egg and should be run from the profession. When he is refreshing the serving trays at the Piccadilly Cafeteria he can screw all of the patrons he wants to screw. As an attorney, this is an area which we pretty much all agree leads to trouble.

Jamdug!: En Bonk.

Well done.

sounds like Zenas Zelotes is just bitter for always being the last in line