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2011-12-13 09:43:09 PM
Bud Selig hates us all.
 
2011-12-13 09:54:19 PM
No in game microphones, and get the damn camera off the field after homeruns!
 
2011-12-13 10:16:38 PM
CavalierEternal: Bud Selig hates us all.

You'd think the end of last season would prove that we don't need another wild card team, since it would have made the best 3 hours of baseball ever meaningless, but there we go.
 
2011-12-13 11:57:06 PM
Collin, you're lucky I love you.
 
2011-12-14 12:06:25 AM
A ban on players getting tattoos with corporate logos.

Has this been a problem in the past?
 
2011-12-14 12:07:44 AM
The Onion is prophetic: A ban on players getting tattoos with corporate logos.

Has this been a problem in the past?


Never mind, guess I should read the whole article before posting... TFA says they're just heading it off before anyone tries it.
 
2011-12-14 02:02:53 AM

"A ban on players getting tattoos with corporate logos."


So this means when Manny Ramirez is finally reinstated he'll have to have that Tampax tattoo removed?

 
2011-12-14 02:04:19 AM
...... What a piece of s**t.
 
2011-12-14 02:18:56 AM
1. Any throw from the pitcher is considered a pitch, unless the ball was just batted. So a throw to 1st to keep a man close would be a ball.
2. Changing pitchers DURING the other team's at bat is treated as a balk.
 
2011-12-14 02:28:02 AM
"If a pitcher unintentionally kills a pigeon during the delivery of a pitch then the batter is out. If the pitcher or their team is shown to have prepared a pigeon before the pitch in question, then the batter is awarded a double."
 
2011-12-14 02:29:31 AM
SevenizGud: 1. Any throw from the pitcher is considered a pitch, unless the ball was just batted. So a throw to 1st to keep a man close would be a ball.
2. Changing pitchers DURING the other team's at bat is treated as a balk.


How about not farking around with the actual gameplay and strategy? Making players speed up is fine. Changing game rules and strategy that's been the same for a hundred years is not.
 
2011-12-14 02:30:48 AM
The Onion is prophetic: A ban on players getting tattoos with corporate logos.

Has this been a problem in the past?


cdn.bleacherreport.net

Is not impressed...
 
2011-12-14 02:40:35 AM
"Also part of the deal: Any big leaguer who wants to change uniform numbers without switching teams better give eight months' notice unless he's willing to buy warehouses full of his overstocked jerseys"

What about crappy players that there's no demand for their jersey? It would be nice to see the irrelevant guys get some perks.

"• New language allowing the commissioner to discipline players for violating federal, state or local law or for conduct "materially detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of baseball."

Oh man, baseball fans are going to love Goodell Part II!
 
2011-12-14 02:43:18 AM
"Players also can be disciplined for violating MLB's social media policy, which still is being developed."

I would hope that they would have to agree to this after MLB creates an actual policy, rather than just "oh, we trust it will be reasonable."

/realistically, most players could be tweeting for at least half the game with no possibility of being called into action
 
2011-12-14 03:26:51 AM
I'd like to see pitchers put on the clock when there are no runners on base. Also, once you step in the box you're in.
 
2011-12-14 04:24:22 AM
Chupacabra Sandwich: I'd like to see pitchers put on the clock when there are no runners on base. Also, once you step in the box you're in.

Point 1. Umpires can already issue balls for game pace issues.

Point 2. Technically that's basically a part of the rules for the National League. Unless something actually happens besides a pitch, the batter has to leave at least one foot in the batter's box. Enforcement, of course, varies.
 
2011-12-14 05:20:53 AM
cptjeff: SevenizGud: 1. Any throw from the pitcher is considered a pitch, unless the ball was just batted. So a throw to 1st to keep a man close would be a ball.
2. Changing pitchers DURING the other team's at bat is treated as a balk.

How about not farking around with the actual gameplay and strategy? Making players speed up is fine. Changing game rules and strategy that's been the same for a hundred years is not.


Yeah! And what's with this 4 balls and 3 strikes bullshiat? We've been playing 9 balls and 5 strikes since 1878! And you want to change the rules? Heretic!

How about a game that isn't a snorefest akin to watching paint dry?

They should really play the game such that each new batter steps to the plate with a full count.
 
2011-12-14 06:17:35 AM
I'd bet that the reason for extending the all-star break is that some teams recently already have been getting 4-day breaks, with some teams starting 4-game series on the following Thursday, and others starting three-game series on Friday. That is kind of unfair, with pitcher scheduling and rest and all that.
 
2011-12-14 07:35:48 AM
Austin: No in game microphones, and get the damn camera off the field after homeruns!

Seriously, don't they have zoom lenses for a reason?
 
2011-12-14 07:37:14 AM
SevenizGud: They should really play the game such that each new batter steps to the plate with a full count.

I have been on Fark too long, because I read that as "full coont."

Which would, admittedly, make the game more interesting.
 
2011-12-14 08:01:00 AM
JPINFV: Chupacabra Sandwich: I'd like to see pitchers put on the clock when there are no runners on base. Also, once you step in the box you're in.

Point 1. Umpires can already issue balls for game pace issues.

Point 2. Technically that's basically a part of the rules for the National League. Unless something actually happens besides a pitch, the batter has to leave at least one foot in the batter's box. Enforcement, of course, varies.


I have watched baseball for 15 years and have never seen a ball issued for game pace.

Whatever the Rulebook says, batters call timeout all the time.

I want a clock behind home plate with a designated amount of time (15 seconds?) on it. Clock starts when the pitcher recieves the ball. If the clock hits zero before the pitcher goes into his motion, the second base umpire issues a ball.

I would also like to change rules about relief pitchers but Fark baseball old timers will gladly tell me I'm ruining the game so I wont elaborate.
 
2011-12-14 08:07:40 AM
The agreement calls for nicknames written on equipment to "not reasonably likely to offend fans, business partners, players and others associated with the game."

media.cnbc.com
 
2011-12-14 08:22:37 AM
Chupacabra Sandwich: JPINFV: Chupacabra Sandwich: I'd like to see pitchers put on the clock when there are no runners on base. Also, once you step in the box you're in.

Point 1. Umpires can already issue balls for game pace issues.

Point 2. Technically that's basically a part of the rules for the National League. Unless something actually happens besides a pitch, the batter has to leave at least one foot in the batter's box. Enforcement, of course, varies.

I have watched baseball for 15 years and have never seen a ball issued for game pace.

Whatever the Rulebook says, batters call timeout all the time.

I want a clock behind home plate with a designated amount of time (15 seconds?) on it. Clock starts when the pitcher recieves the ball. If the clock hits zero before the pitcher goes into his motion, the second base umpire issues a ball.

I would also like to change rules about relief pitchers but Fark baseball old timers will gladly tell me I'm ruining the game so I wont elaborate.


If I've told you once I've told you a thousand times, requiring relievers to give you a blumpkin before they can enter the game just isn't practical!
 
2011-12-14 08:23:17 AM
SevenizGud: 1. Any throw from the pitcher is considered a pitch, unless the ball was just batted. So a throw to 1st to keep a man close would be a ball.
2. Changing pitchers DURING the other team's at bat is treated as a balk.


Holy count to potato, Batman...
 
2011-12-14 08:27:55 AM
Chupacabra Sandwich: JPINFV: Chupacabra Sandwich: I'd like to see pitchers put on the clock when there are no runners on base. Also, once you step in the box you're in.

Point 1. Umpires can already issue balls for game pace issues.

Point 2. Technically that's basically a part of the rules for the National League. Unless something actually happens besides a pitch, the batter has to leave at least one foot in the batter's box. Enforcement, of course, varies.

I have watched baseball for 15 years and have never seen a ball issued for game pace.

Whatever the Rulebook says, batters call timeout all the time.

I want a clock behind home plate with a designated amount of time (15 seconds?) on it. Clock starts when the pitcher recieves the ball. If the clock hits zero before the pitcher goes into his motion, the second base umpire issues a ball.

I would also like to change rules about relief pitchers but Fark baseball old timers will gladly tell me I'm ruining the game so I wont elaborate.


Interesting thought on the "Pitch Clock" idea. Never really thought of it, but it "could" work.

as for the Relief pitchers...not sure what you are thinking there, but I like how it is done now.

/NL baseball fan
//DH rule can go away
 
2011-12-14 08:35:07 AM
CommiePuddin: The agreement calls for nicknames written on equipment to "not reasonably likely to offend fans, business partners, players and others associated with the game."

[media.cnbc.com image 316x431]


Ha! Came here for that.
 
2011-12-14 08:38:44 AM
Just my two cents, but let's go:

1. In game microphones- Terrible idea. A lot of people would be offended by a lot of what ball players say, and I myself am not looking forward to the "controversy" of a player saying something, and seeing him go to sensitivity training.

2. All-Star Break- Sure, make the break longer, but why not just make the season shorter?

3. Extra wildcard team- Yeah, let's get rid of situations like this year, which produced the most exciting week/month of baseball I could ever remember. Plus, isn't the season long enough to justify one wildcard team? If you want to add a playoff team, shorten the season, even though November baseball is SO much fun.

4. Replay- If you're going to do that, you might as well add in safe/out calls at bases.

5. DH Rule- Get rid of it. That or create a rule that DHer's aren't allowed to own gloves, just because.
 
2011-12-14 08:45:59 AM
IAmRight: What about crappy players that there's no demand for their jersey? It would be nice to see the irrelevant guys get some perks.

That won't be much of a problem, Say superstar player #25 gets traded mid-season to a team who has utility outfielder #25, either the team, a corporate sponsor or Superstar Player #25 can buy all of utility outfielder's jerseys. In most cases this will only cost a small amount compared to what they will make on the new superstar player.
 
2011-12-14 09:00:08 AM
Other changes that should be made:

9 all-stars elected per league, manager sets starting lineups.

End every team needs representative at the all-star game.

Make relievers (except one designated specialist) face three batters or end an inning.

Promote gambling!

Change the world series to a 2-2-1-1-1 format
 
2011-12-14 09:01:26 AM
Tom_Slick: IAmRight: What about crappy players that there's no demand for their jersey? It would be nice to see the irrelevant guys get some perks.

That won't be much of a problem, Say superstar player #25 gets traded mid-season to a team who has utility outfielder #25, either the team, a corporate sponsor or Superstar Player #25 can buy all of utility outfielder's jerseys. In most cases this will only cost a small amount compared to what they will make on the new superstar player.


This is the "Chad Ochocinco Rule" for baseball. I would like to think that this particular issue wouldn't be enforceable in the event of a trade, since it would be management/owners creating the situation that required the number change, not a player.

And in stating that you want a number change by July, that pretty well covers players 26, 27, 28, etc. on the 25-man roster who get called up after an injury/trade and have to wear something in the 60s or 70s but want a "real" number the next season.
 
2011-12-14 09:03:11 AM
Well, at least we're getting more replay which is a good thing.
 
2011-12-14 09:05:36 AM
It's now time for the DH in both leagues. With all the extra inter-league games it's almost a necessity anyway. The DH isn't going away so it might as well go to both leagues.
 
2011-12-14 09:17:47 AM
I would have liked to see them flip-flop the interleague DH rule, meaning pitchers hit in AL ballparks and DHs are used in NL parks. I despise interleague play, but that tweak would at least add something to the staleness of yet another "historic matchup" of the Red Sox and Braves at Fenway.
 
2011-12-14 09:20:50 AM
SevenizGud: 1. Any throw from the pitcher is considered a pitch, unless the ball was just batted. So a throw to 1st to keep a man close would be a ball.

You must really like speedy guys and walks.

/Still likes the seperate league DH rules
//Adds more home turf stuff
 
2011-12-14 09:24:55 AM
tommyl66: I would have liked to see them flip-flop the interleague DH rule, meaning pitchers hit in AL ballparks and DHs are used in NL parks.

This is the only change to the DH I would agree with.
No, the NL doesn't need the DH. No, the AL doesn't need to abolish it.

Those of you even suggesting changes to pitching rules are out of your minds and have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2011-12-14 09:36:53 AM
Chupacabra Sandwich: Other changes that should be made:

9 all-stars elected per league, manager sets starting lineups.

End every team needs representative at the all-star game.

Make relievers (except one designated specialist) face three batters or end an inning.

Promote gambling!

Change the world series to a 2-2-1-1-1 format


Only 9 guys per team? Or only 9 league-selected guys per team? I like the fan vote, but I also like giving a vote to the beat writers (or BBWA) and one to the league.

The Expos still deserve a spot on the AS team. Sometimes, a good player on a crappy team gets overlooked so that a mediocre player with protection in his lineup gets his 2 ASG ABs.

Promote gambling. Holy farkballs, do they need to reexamine these rules. We get it, 1919 was a stain on the sport's history. Update the rules so that the guys can fill out an NCAA bracket at least. Isn't plane poker not allowed in MLB?

WS should definitely be 2-2-1-1-1, though a Marlins/Angels WS would be murder on the schedule.
 
2011-12-14 09:40:08 AM
A longer All-Star break? Really? The day after the All-Star Game is already the slowest sports day of the year.

If anything, I'd have liked to see at least one game played the day after the All-Star game, probably someplace near the home city, and give those teams an extra day off somewhere else in the schedule. Assuming the 2013 All-Star Game is played at Citi Field, there's no reason the Yanks and/or Phillies couldn't start a home series the next day against either an east coast team or a team that's on an east coast road trip.

It might not work every single year, but it would keep the action going most years.
 
2011-12-14 09:40:55 AM
Possible suspensions for intentionally throwing a ball or equipment at non-uniformed personnel with the intention of causing bodily harm; for assaulting fans, media or umpires; or for making public statements that question the integrity of the game, the umpires, the commissioner or the commissioner's staff.

This caught my eye. Players are no longer allowed to testify/give interviews about steroid use in baseball.
 
2011-12-14 09:41:18 AM
considering how arbitrary home field for the WS is anyway, there's no reason to move away from 2-3-2
 
2011-12-14 09:45:01 AM
oh, one more baseball note while we have a thread (in case we don't get a thread about it): the result of Yu Darvish's posting is at 5 pm eastern today
 
2011-12-14 09:53:02 AM
Make the ceremonial first pitch count. Have the leadoff batter of the visiting team in the batter box, the umpire behind the plate. If little Timmy Cancer Survivor's first pitch lands half way between the mound and the plate, that's ball one, then regular starting pitcher enters the game.
 
2011-12-14 09:56:38 AM
GAT_00: You'd think the end of last season would prove that we don't need another wild card team, since it would have made the best 3 hours of baseball ever meaningless, but there we go.

You'd think the end of last the 1993 season would prove that we don't need another the wild card team, since it would have made the best 3 hours of pennant race in the history of divisional baseball ever meaningless, but there we go.
 
2011-12-14 10:13:14 AM
GAT_00: CavalierEternal: Bud Selig hates us all.

You'd think the end of last season would prove that we don't need another wild card team, since it would have made the best 3 hours of baseball ever meaningless, but there we go.


What's wrong with adding another wild card team (or two)? Isn't one of the biggest problems with baseball that there are too many meaningless games?
 
2011-12-14 10:29:07 AM
I started reading the list of "do's and don'ts" and stopped at the corporate tattoo commandment, and thought to my self that this is still a sport, we should just enjoy the game no matter how regulated MLB and the media get.
 
2011-12-14 10:36:37 AM
More Astros games?

Mother of God... What hath Selig wrought?


/Astros fan
 
2011-12-14 11:15:13 AM
GAT_00: You'd think the end of last season would prove that we don't need another wild card team, since it would have made the best 3 hours of baseball ever meaningless, but there we go.

It's paramount to MLB that both the Yankees and Red Sox make the playoffs every year, so they will just keep adding more wild card teams until that happens. You just can't have a situation where one or (gasp!) even both of them are home in October, ya know? It's for the good of the game!!!
 
2011-12-14 11:23:02 AM
Why Would I Read the Article: It's paramount to MLB that both the Yankees and Red Sox make the playoffs every year, so they will just keep adding more wild card teams until that happens. You just can't have a situation where one or (gasp!) even both of them are home in October, ya know? It's for the good of the game!!!

*eyeroll*
 
2011-12-14 12:02:06 PM
erupt2001: GAT_00: CavalierEternal: Bud Selig hates us all.

You'd think the end of last season would prove that we don't need another wild card team, since it would have made the best 3 hours of baseball ever meaningless, but there we go.

What's wrong with adding another wild card team (or two)? Isn't one of the biggest problems with baseball that there are too many meaningless games?


Adding more wild card teams devalues the regular season. You can argue that there are too many regular season games, but not that lack of playoff teams causes games to be meaningless.

The more playoff teams you add the closer you get to hockey and basketball, who already have completely meaningless regular seasons.
 
2011-12-14 12:08:01 PM
Austin: No in game microphones, and get the damn camera off the field after homeruns!

So much this.

Nothing like watching Freese run home after his Game 6 walkoff and trying to avoid camermen before he even touched the plate.
 
2011-12-14 12:12:33 PM
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Adding more wild card teams devalues the regular season. You can argue that there are too many regular season games, but not that lack of playoff teams causes games to be meaningless.

The more playoff teams you add the closer you get to hockey and basketball, who already have completely meaningless regular seasons.


People keep saying this. People are also melodramatic and not seeing the big picture.

They are adding one team to the post-season per league and one game. In doing so, they are strengthening the meaning of the regular season because now winning the division is important in ensuring you have at least three chances to avoid having your season ended. This change was aimed not only at giving more teams a shot, but also eliminating the notion that winning the division doesn't matter if you have the wild card locked up.
 
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