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2011-12-13 08:55:28 PM
Hmm, at the end there, I thought it said 'crotch'.
 
2011-12-13 09:06:51 PM
"Kaczynski ended up interning with the eventual winner, Republican Bob Turner, in his district office in Queens. When it comes to his impending graduation, however, he says he's leaning more towards journalism than a career as a political operative."

YOU'RE A YOUNG MAN! DON'T DO IT!
 
2011-12-13 09:07:57 PM
Meet the 22-year-old who'sturning the GOP race upside down from his couch job it was to post this video three weeks before the Iowa caucuses by the Perry Campaign.

FTFY
 
2011-12-13 09:39:55 PM
Organic Chemistry: Hmm, at the end there, I thought it said 'crotch'.

Yeah, which given the modern day GOP also fits.
 
2011-12-13 10:07:42 PM
Well, that's an unfortunate name to have and get involved in politics...
 
2011-12-13 10:43:50 PM
So is the Unabomber's son, or what?
 
2011-12-13 10:44:13 PM
If he teaches folks that nothing is really lost from the Internet, then good on him...
 
2011-12-13 10:56:42 PM
hubiestubert: If he teaches folks that nothing is really lost from the Internet, then good on him...

That's the last lesson we want politicians to learn... I prefer them clueless, lest they become more careful about covering up their deceptions.
 
2011-12-13 11:15:35 PM
Ok, so this is something I don't really understand. I'm just Some Girl, I don't even have a shiatty blog, and yet I know that anything I ever say, write or do is probably recorded somewhere.

Someone has tagged me a terrible picture of me on facebook. Someone has an email I sent where I said something incredibly retarded. Someone has video of me doing something drunk and stupid*, and I am NOT a public figure.

I just do not understand how you can become a presidential candidate and NOT think things like your mistress of 13 years, tying your dog to your car, or the fact that you can't count to three will come out in the wash.

For fark's sake people- how many Congressman have we caught on craigslist/twitter?

*apparently, even if you have a broken foot and you can't find a cab, and you're really, really drunk, it is not ok to "borrow" a police horse in New Orleans. And this is why we'll never have a President What_Now. Because that video exists, and I do not have access to it.
 
2011-12-13 11:20:58 PM
I've never understood why "flip-flopping" on an issue is such a deal breaker for voters. Personally, I'd prefer a candidate who is willing to change his or her position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances.
 
2011-12-13 11:23:09 PM
what_now: I just do not understand how you can become a presidential candidate and NOT think things like your mistress of 13 years, tying your dog to your car, or the fact that you can't count to three will come out in the wash.

It's a generational thing which is a big part of the reason why Obama won the last election and why he will win this one - hes a geek and understands the internet.

Obama plays to the internet the way Reagan played to television.

I'm not sure whats going to happen when the FB generation starts running for office. It's sure to be entertaining.
 
2011-12-14 12:13:19 AM
jaylectricity: So is the Unabomber's son, or what?

Well, he IS trying to blow up Romney's campaign.

/though Romney's doing that well enough on his own...
 
2011-12-14 12:17:27 AM
Kaczynski, a history undergrad at St. John's University in New York, has been digging through C-SPAN archives, YouTube, and Google Video for the last several weeks unearthing embarrassing footage of not just Romney, but several candidates.

So, typical new york liberal arts student. Pissing away his expensive education playing on the internet and then graduating into a field with no jobs. Since he's a rabid democrat, we can rest assured he'll make a great addition to the fleabagger movement.
 
2011-12-14 12:18:27 AM
what_now: Ok, so this is something I don't really understand. I'm just Some Girl, I don't even have a shiatty blog, and yet I know that anything I ever say, write or do is probably recorded somewhere.

I have absolutely no sympathy for the folks getting caught out on this shiat, but to be honest a lot of this is video from years ago. Today you know everything will be recorded and saved on the internet, but were you thinking about that in 2002? What about 1994? Again, no sympathy for Mitt or Newt, but some of what's coming out is 20 years old, and it doesn't seem totally implausible that one might think that that was sufficiently buried.

*apparently, even if you have a broken foot and you can't find a cab, and you're really, really drunk, it is not ok to "borrow" a police horse in New Orleans. And this is why we'll never have a President What_Now. Because that video exists, and I do not have access to it.

This sounds lie a totally awesome story that only makes me want to vote for you more*

*more than Rick Perry
 
2011-12-14 12:23:08 AM
quickdraw: I'm not sure whats going to happen when the FB generation starts running for office. It's sure to be entertaining.

It actually seems to be a big meh so far, actually.

Krystal Ball had a minor fuss about pictures of her at a Halloween party (with her husband) licking a dildo or something. I don't think it impacted things at all... granted, she still lost, but it was 2010 so it was expected. There was a Republican candidate who had a lot of party pictures with drunk and/or high college students. Didn't seem to stick to him. The right tried to get traction with White House staffers playing shirtless beer pong at a bar. Nothing there.

As usual, it's hypocrisy and cheating that really sticks. To the extent that it will document both more readily, Facebook et al will hurt but any other stuff I think is going to not matter much in the big picture.
 
2011-12-14 12:25:27 AM
Aexia: quickdraw: I'm not sure whats going to happen when the FB generation starts running for office. It's sure to be entertaining.

It actually seems to be a big meh so far, actually.

Krystal Ball had a minor fuss about pictures of her at a Halloween party (with her husband) licking a dildo or something. I don't think it impacted things at all... granted, she still lost, but it was 2010 so it was expected. There was a Republican candidate who had a lot of party pictures with drunk and/or high college students. Didn't seem to stick to him. The right tried to get traction with White House staffers playing shirtless beer pong at a bar. Nothing there.

As usual, it's hypocrisy and cheating that really sticks. To the extent that it will document both more readily, Facebook et al will hurt but any other stuff I think is going to not matter much in the big picture.


then again, her name was Krystal Ball so she really didn't have hope to do much of anything but strip anyway
 
2011-12-14 12:26:53 AM
hubiestubert: If he teaches folks that nothing is really lost from the Internet, then good on him...

Unfortunately it's more likely that the takeaway for the people he's exposing is that they need to get SOPA/PROTECT IP through ASAP so they can shut him down.
 
2011-12-14 12:26:56 AM
fta "I'm not really interested in the governing aspect of politics," he said. "I find the journalism aspect of covering it a lot more entertaining than the actual process."

What's his handle?
 
2011-12-14 12:42:53 AM
Shaggy_C: Since he's a rabid democrat

so, that's why he worked for the RNC?
 
2011-12-14 12:44:46 AM
what_now: Ok, so this is something I don't really understand. I'm just Some Girl, I don't even have a shiatty blog, and yet I know that anything I ever say, write or do is probably recorded somewhere.

Someone has tagged me a terrible picture of me on facebook. Someone has an email I sent where I said something incredibly retarded. Someone has video of me doing something drunk and stupid*, and I am NOT a public figure.

I just do not understand how you can become a presidential candidate and NOT think things like your mistress of 13 years, tying your dog to your car, or the fact that you can't count to three will come out in the wash.

For fark's sake people- how many Congressman have we caught on craigslist/twitter?

*apparently, even if you have a broken foot and you can't find a cab, and you're really, really drunk, it is not ok to "borrow" a police horse in New Orleans. And this is why we'll never have a President What_Now. Because that video exists, and I do not have access to it.


just wait until this current crop of 20-30 year old political idiots begin running for office. Their "planking" photos and topless shots at Mardi Gras will seem less funny then.
 
2011-12-14 12:45:29 AM
FishyFred: "Kaczynski ended up interning with the eventual winner, Republican Bob Turner, in his district office in Queens. When it comes to his impending graduation, however, he says he's leaning more towards journalism than a career as a political operative."

YOU'RE A YOUNG MAN! DON'T DO IT!


Depends where he breaks in. He gets in with the right organization, connects with journalists that actually do the job right (and they do exist), I'd say guy's got a bright future ahead of him. Though here I'd say it REALLY depends who he contacts. He's got the skills, undeniably, it's just a matter of how they get put to use and who mentors him.
 
2011-12-14 12:49:39 AM
have to say i prefer Romney's flip to his flop.
 
2011-12-14 12:53:44 AM
hubiestubert: If he teaches folks that nothing is really lost from the Internet, then good on him...

You're forgetting sarcasm.
 
2011-12-14 12:54:08 AM
LikeALeafOnTheWind: have to say i prefer Romney's flip to his flop.

"flip-flopping" is just fapping in Mormon underwear.
 
2011-12-14 01:03:06 AM
sprawl15: hubiestubert: If he teaches folks that nothing is really lost from the Internet, then good on him...

You're forgetting sarcasm Poland.


FTFY
 
2011-12-14 01:09:59 AM
Shaggy_C: Kaczynski, a history undergrad at St. John's University in New York, has been digging through C-SPAN archives, YouTube, and Google Video for the last several weeks unearthing embarrassing footage of not just Romney, but several candidates.

So, typical new york liberal arts student. Pissing away his expensive education playing on the internet and then graduating into a field with no jobs. Since he's a rabid democrat, we can rest assured he'll make a great addition to the fleabagger movement.


Can you guess how I know you didn't read the article very carefully?
 
2011-12-14 01:21:56 AM
""I saw their response was the kind of spin you usually get when something damaging comes out: 'Dems aren't focusing on Obama's record," Kaczynski told TPM over the phone. "I was just like, I found this video and I'm not a Democrat, and I'm doing this as a hobby. I thought it was kind of funny.""

Wow, can't even muster up the respect to call them "Democrats" rather then "Dems". Another true-believer republican, the ones that can't get past their own worked-up bile....
 
M-G
2011-12-14 01:22:20 AM
what_now: *apparently, even if you have a broken foot and you can't find a cab, and you're really, really drunk, it is not ok to "borrow" a police horse in New Orleans. And this is why we'll never have a President What_Now. Because that video exists, and I do not have access to it.

You need to run for office then. That way it will be leaked and we can all see.
 
2011-12-14 01:23:42 AM
That's actually a pretty great thing. However, the one bit that really stuck with me was this:

His latest video ended up driving the day as Republicans leapt on it too: the Perry campaign put out a blistering statement saying Romney "pursued plenty of progressive policies as governor..."

Because, as we all know, progress is the worst fate that could ever befall us.
 
2011-12-14 01:25:02 AM
M-G: You need to run for office then. That way it will be leaked and we can all see.

Hell, that kind of resourcefulness and level of thinking is far above most of Congress so there's no reason WN can't turn it into a positive.
 
2011-12-14 01:25:44 AM
Organic Chemistry: Hmm, at the end there, I thought it said 'crotch'.

i did too. i'm glad it's not just me.
 
2011-12-14 01:29:23 AM
Lenny_da_Hog: LikeALeafOnTheWind: have to say i prefer Romney's flip to his flop.

"flip-flopping" is just fapping in Mormon underwear.


'Tsup with the fruit panties? You hatin' on me? (new window)
 
2011-12-14 01:39:23 AM
Shaggy_C: Kaczynski, a history undergrad at St. John's University in New York, has been digging through C-SPAN archives, YouTube, and Google Video for the last several weeks unearthing embarrassing footage of not just Romney, but several candidates.

So, typical new york liberal arts student. Pissing away his expensive education playing on the internet and then graduating into a field with no jobs. Since he's a rabid democrat, we can rest assured he'll make a great addition to the fleabagger movement.


About that
FTA
It wasn't a Democrat who dug up the video and pushed it into the AM news at all, but a 22-year old Republican amateur, Andrew Kaczynski, whose opposition research has been popping up all over the race in recent weeks.

It's right there in the third paragraph you illiterate buffoon.
 
2011-12-14 01:40:42 AM
Koalacaust: I've never understood why "flip-flopping" on an issue is such a deal breaker for voters. Personally, I'd prefer a candidate who is willing to change his or her position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances.

That's the problem, though, isn't it? From a distance, changing one's position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances looks exactly like changing one's position on an issue because the previous position polled badly. Given the grand American tradition of hating and mistrusting all politicians, which do you think is more likely - a typical voter sees a candidate take a position contrary to said candidate's prior position and thinks, "my, this candidate certainly has engaged in some careful thought and serious soul searching!", or, a typical voter sees a candidate take a position contrary to said candidate's prior position and thinks, "the S.O.B. is pandering again."
 
2011-12-14 01:40:59 AM
so.. this guy is doing the research and the journalism to actually muckrake? not so hard, just takes lots of time going through all the available resources apparently... my guess is that the campaigns want to limit that research considering it can destroy them all...
 
2011-12-14 01:51:09 AM
I find this amazing that campaigns with tens of millions of dollars and full time staffs of professional campaign people haven't found so much of this stuff but this random kid from St Johns does.

It is a good indication that there is still tons of material left to be found on many many candidates for many many years to come.

/hint hint
 
2011-12-14 01:51:13 AM
Koalacaust: I've never understood why "flip-flopping" on an issue is such a deal breaker for voters. Personally, I'd prefer a candidate who is willing to change his or her position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances.

the new circumstances for Romney seem to involve "I can't have liberal positions on anything, for pete's sake, i'm running for the Republican nomination" though
 
2011-12-14 02:08:54 AM
what_now: *apparently, even if you have a broken foot and you can't find a cab, and you're really, really drunk, it is not ok to "borrow" a police horse in New Orleans. And this is why we'll never have a President What_Now. Because that video exists, and I do not have access to it.

To be honest, I consider every president to be a President What_Now.

Maybe What_Now with an interrobang or three after it. I hope you like interrobangs.
 
2011-12-14 02:13:13 AM
OMG Romney is only center-right wing, not far right wing like the rest of us.

To the disqualification mobile!
 
2011-12-14 02:17:28 AM
BMulligan: Koalacaust: I've never understood why "flip-flopping" on an issue is such a deal breaker for voters. Personally, I'd prefer a candidate who is willing to change his or her position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances.

That's the problem, though, isn't it? From a distance, changing one's position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances looks exactly like changing one's position on an issue because the previous position polled badly. Given the grand American tradition of hating and mistrusting all politicians, which do you think is more likely - a typical voter sees a candidate take a position contrary to said candidate's prior position and thinks, "my, this candidate certainly has engaged in some careful thought and serious soul searching!", or, a typical voter sees a candidate take a position contrary to said candidate's prior position and thinks, "the S.O.B. is pandering again."


In science, theories change (or support for various ones does) when new evidence shows the current theory to be untenable or the phenomenon it describes to be better explained by another theory. I try to look at it this way because I'm accustomed to it, but what I find in politics is increasingly that a position is changed not for these reasons, but because the new position is what polled well and will get more votes. I used to see a lot more of the former, but I'm seeing more and more of the latter. The more I look, the more bitter and cynical I get. I'd have respect for any politician who says "I used to think 'X', but now I believe 'Y'. There were several reasons leading me to this change of opinion, and I'd like to lay them out for you...", rather than just saying something in direct opposition to prior statements and hoping no one notices (q.v. Romney, Gingrich). Oddly enough (at least on the GOP side), these guys don't seem to understand that the internet never forgets, and end up blaming Jon Stewart for it.
 
2011-12-14 02:24:27 AM
Random 22-year-old who knows how to use google on video archive and has a fairly average amount of spare time in which to be bored: better political analyst than all of the people paid to do it for a living put together.

Yeah, I'd say that sums up the US's political reporting pretty well.

BMulligan: , or, a typical voter sees a candidate take a position contrary to said candidate's prior position and thinks, "the S.O.B. is pandering again."

I'm somewhat skeptical of any theory that assumes an 'average voter' would be so absolutely correct on such a consistent basis.
 
2011-12-14 06:08:29 AM
I just assumed that the big political parties and the candidates running for president of the united states would have such people on their payroll doing nothing but opposition research.

But instead of the Obama, Perry, Gingrich campaign digging up up that "i'm progressive" Romney video its just some bored kid. Once again I'm amazed at how mediocre our "professionals" are.
 
2011-12-14 06:26:18 AM
saintstryfe: ""I saw their response was the kind of spin you usually get when something damaging comes out: 'Dems aren't focusing on Obama's record," Kaczynski told TPM over the phone. "I was just like, I found this video and I'm not a Democrat, and I'm doing this as a hobby. I thought it was kind of funny.""

Wow, can't even muster up the respect to call them "Democrats" rather then "Dems". Another true-believer republican, the ones that can't get past their own worked-up bile....


He does use the full word "Democrat," right there in your quote. When the phrase "Dems" is used, it's in a paraphrase of the language coming out of Romney's spin machine and the resulting news coverage. Guy wants to be a journalist, so I imagine he's quite familiar with this particular lazy convention of political news writing.

Ironically, it appears you are too "worked up with your own bile" to see that...
 
2011-12-14 07:52:14 AM
CANT. STOP. STARING. AT. EYEBROWS.
 
2011-12-14 07:55:04 AM
In other news, I'm all for anyone driving Mittens crazy.
 
2011-12-14 07:57:35 AM
BMulligan: Koalacaust: I've never understood why "flip-flopping" on an issue is such a deal breaker for voters. Personally, I'd prefer a candidate who is willing to change his or her position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances.

That's the problem, though, isn't it? From a distance, changing one's position on an issue in light of new information or circumstances looks exactly like changing one's position on an issue because the previous position polled badly. Given the grand American tradition of hating and mistrusting all politicians, which do you think is more likely - a typical voter sees a candidate take a position contrary to said candidate's prior position and thinks, "my, this candidate certainly has engaged in some careful thought and serious soul searching!", or, a typical voter sees a candidate take a position contrary to said candidate's prior position and thinks, "the S.O.B. is pandering again."


I'm not sure your typical voter thinks at all. :-/
 
2011-12-14 07:58:53 AM
With that having been said, it seems to me a true flip-flopper is one who

a. changes his stance in the span of a few days, instead over a long period of time (enough time to gather new evidence, do soul searching, what have you), and/or
b. changes it back and forth over a period of time. I.e., flip. flop. flip. flop. Back and forth, just like it sounds. Kind of onomatopoeic.
 
2011-12-14 07:59:35 AM
Liberal mockery of leading conservative candidates by an unemployed 22-year old college student "working" from his couch. You cannot make stuff like this up. #OccupyElections
 
2011-12-14 08:04:04 AM
xanadian: In other news, I'm all for anyone driving Mittens crazy.

Heh... it's been a bad few days for Mitt.

He picks a gay Vietnam Vet for a photo op and gets his ass handed to him. Looks like a complete imbecile in a debate (to be fair, all the GOP candidates look like imbeciles, though). And now, some college kid from New York is doing a better job of researching Mitt than the entire US News Media.

Mitt also has to reconcile with the fact that he is the GOP's best chance to beat Obama, but the GOP base apparently prefers a chubby little sociopath, who wouldn't know the truth if it divorced him while he was dying of cancer.
 
2011-12-14 08:06:49 AM
RandomExcess: Liberal mockery of leading conservative candidates by an unemployed 22-year old college student "working" from his couch. You cannot make stuff like this up. #OccupyElections

FTFA:

It wasn't a Democrat who dug up the video and pushed it into the AM news at all, but a 22-year old Republican amateur, Andrew Kaczynski, whose opposition research has been popping up all over the race in recent weeks.

You is gud reeder!
 
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