you are right subby. two things i do hate.

What a douche.

There does appear to be more room for individual style in the black community. I live in an upper-middle class liberal town. Limozeen Libs if you will. All the black kids wear skinny jeans and skate. Pretty much every teen here does.

Although, conversely you could ask if these kids are in the "black community". If such a thing exists for everyone who is black, or if the idea itself is an anachronism in a society that seems to have forgotten Jesse Jackson.

Deep thoughts, man. In the meantime while we're writing articles about it, the kids just skate.

And I thought this article would be about last year's craze.



The Hoopster.

I'm 25 and I've noticed almost all kids are hipsters now. When I was growing up we had jocks, nerds, emos, goths, skaters, urban style etc .

Now all the kids I see are in plaid flannel shirts, big rim glasses, skinny jeans and air force ones or converse. I'm not complaining but its so different from what I'm used to not many years ago. I blame the internet.

Rapmaster2000: There does appear to be more room for individual style in the black community. .

I live in a lower middle class suburb right next to a medium sized city with a huge black population. For the whites you have hipsters , skaters, goths, preppies and wiggers. For the black people outside of this one token skater I keep seeing you have gangster and I guess what the country at large would consider "standard american style".

Just because a few black celebs dress like this doesn't mean it trickles down to the community at large.

He missed it. There was a big Polo Craze a few years ago. Then you had Andre 3000 do his thing as well.

Hipsters don't bother me. Fark the NBA up the ass with a hot fire iron.

Kid Lester: Rapmaster2000: And I thought this article would be about last year's craze.

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The Hoopster.

I don't always drink beer. But when I do, I prefer Dos Equis. In a can.

Those are actually filled with chenin blanc (psh, you've probably never even heard of it). He dumped the beer out and uses the cans because it's ironic.

Obtuse_Otter: Rapmaster2000: There does appear to be more room for individual style in the black community. .

I live in a lower middle class suburb right next to a medium sized city with a huge black population. For the whites you have hipsters , skaters, goths, preppies and wiggers. For the black people outside of this one token skater I keep seeing you have gangster and I guess what the country at large would consider "standard american style"..

Yeah, but whenever I go to a poor white place all the white kids look like rednecks or wiggers just like the homogeny of your urban black population.

It's probably a reflection of social class affecting opportunity for individuality. That's why I asked if the idea of the "black community" is as relevant as it once was in the way that there never was a "white community"... likely due to the greater socioeconomic distribution of white people.

I think it's weird how you almost have to be middle class to be punk.

If Tim Tebow lost his virginity to Justin Beiber while watching Glee (guest staring Lebron James) after winning the Superbowl... THEN it would be a perfect storm of Fark hate.

And gay. NTTAWWT.

We are having a hard enough time figuring out what these guys are going to be wearing on the court. Who gives a shiat about what they wear off the court.

/David West to Indiana?
//CELTICS, NOOOOOOO!

So just to clear things up about how FARK feels about NBA players:

-The ones who dress in 'urban' clothes: f**king thugs, we don't like 'em*.

-The ones who dress like geeks: f**king hipsters, we don't like 'em*.

-The ones who dress in suits: f**king elitist posers, we don't like 'em*.

*does not apply to canadians or other white people

Whar graph?

Tim Tebow doesn't play basketball.

Just sayin.

Black men wearing glasses are treated better by white people.

bukketmaster: So just to clear things up about how FARK feels about NBA players:

-The ones who dress in 'urban' clothes: f**king thugs, we don't like 'em*.

-The ones who dress like geeks: f**king hipsters, we don't like 'em*.

-The ones who dress in suits: f**king elitist posers, we don't like 'em*.

*does not apply to canadians or other white people

F**king wannabe posers

bukketmaster: So just to clear things up about how FARK feels about NBA players:

-The ones who dress in 'urban' clothes: f**king thugs, we don't like 'em*.

-The ones who dress like geeks: f**king hipsters, we don't like 'em*.

-The ones who dress in suits: f**king elitist posers, we don't like 'em*.

*does not apply to canadians or other white people

You forgot:

How often is an NBA story about an actual game? Move it to the Entertainment tab.

Jim from Saint Paul: If Tim Tebow lost his virginity to Justin Beiber while watching Glee (guest staring Lebron James after winning the NBA championship) after winning the Superbowl... THEN it would be a perfect storm of Fark hate.

And gay. NTTAWWT.

Fixed that for you. Why would Tebow losing his virginity to a Lesbian be gay?

Di Atribe: HaywoodJablonski: Whar graph?

I has it ready to go. No rankings thread yet. :(

I don't think so, anyway. Haven't checked in all of 5 minutes. Stupid work interfering with my farkery!

The Texans will remain #7 until they win the Superb Owl

Jim from Saint Paul: If Tim Tebow lost his virginity to Justin Beiber while watching Glee (guest staring Lebron James) after winning the Superbowl... THEN it would be a perfect storm of Fark hate.

And gay. NTTAWWT.

Brett Favre.

All the hipster kids with thier pumped up Keds better run better run faster than my gun.

Blipsters, please!

Pratty: Jim from Saint Paul: If Tim Tebow lost his Favre to Justin Beiber while watching Glee (guest staring Lebron James) after winning the Superbowl... THEN it would be a perfect storm of Fark hate.

And gay. NTTAWWT.

Brett Favre.

Updated.

I read that whole article, and at the end my main thought was "Damn, Bill Simmons knows a lot more about black culture than I assumed." Then I saw it was written by a contributing writer.

Jim from Saint Paul: Pratty: Jim from Saint Paul: If Tim Tebow lost his Favre to Justin Beiber while watching Glee (guest staring Lebron James) after winning the Superbowl... THEN it would be a perfect storm of Fark hate.

And gay. NTTAWWT.

Brett Favre.

Updated.

Tom Brady?

DRTFA but fark the NBA. Has anything ever been less interesting than the NBA regular season slog? The product on the court is unwatchable even if you like basketball. I srsly don't know how people get so into it.

Traditionally geek wear has been hipsterized now.

My friend tried to go as a geek for Halloween. He wore thick black glasses, high water pants, an oxford shirt, suspenders and a cardigan sweater. Back in the day this would be your classic Urkel nerd. He ended up just looking like a hipster, so I bought him a PBR to top it off.

sickb0y: DRTFA but fark the NBA. Has anything ever been less interesting than the NBA regular season slog? The product on the court is unwatchable even if you like basketball. I srsly don't know how people get so into it.

srsly.

Gunny Highway: sickb0y: DRTFA but fark the NBA. Has anything ever been less interesting than the NBA regular season slog? The product on the court is unwatchable even if you like basketball. I srsly don't know how people get so into it.

srsly.

I like seeing where defenses bring their double teams from and when. Things you don't see in the college game. I like seeing how offenses try to balance offensive movement to occupy a defense while making sure their best players get the ball instead of mindlessly following a rote system. I like seeing how well defenses defend screens, and most importantly, how they adjust during a game. It takes a college coach until halftime to make adjustments.

I like seeing offensive creativity. I like seeing how offenses try to create mismatches and then attack. I don't mind seeing the occasional isolation if it's late in the shot clock or against an inferior defender. I like charting plays and seeing just how well a defender defends the post, defends screen/rolls, provides accurate help, etc, and what a team tries to do on the weakside of its offense. I love how the long NBA season provides a large sample size to measure all this, to discuss it, and to see how teams adjust strategies the second, third, and fourth times they play.

Most importantly, I love fundamentals. How many times does a college player set a hard screen? How many players know how to attack mismatches? Offenses are predicated on systems where players have zero creativity. Players take awful shot after awful shot. Defenses are hidden in zones with offenses that have no idea how to attack them. Zones generally get eaten up in the NBA.

If you love basketball, if you love the minutiae, the details, the creativity, you'll love the NBA. If you simply get turned off by the average NBA player not fitting the ideal of the person you want entertaining you on a given night, you'll turn to the college game where players are faceless and mediocrity is championed. The college game is borderline unwatchable.

I'm a Florida Gators fan. Its sickening how their players can't feed the post, can't pass on the drive, only resort to wing and high ball-screens with the roller trying to seal in the post, and they're, what, the eighth best team in the nation? Players don't finish at the rim, taking bizarre 10-foot runners that aren't practiced, and jacking up early threes. When you watch the NBA and come back to the college game, it's multiple notches below in terms of quality of play. Why resort to a mediocre product if you want to watch the best basketball?

Meh, to each his own I guess.

Soon Right Away: Jim from Saint Paul: Pratty: Jim from Saint Paul: If Tim Tebow lost his Favre to Justin Beiber while watching Glee (guest staring Lebron James) after winning the Superbowl while Tom Brady sits at home kocking up another supermodel... THEN it would be a perfect storm of Fark hate.

And gay. NTTAWWT.

Brett Favre.

Updated.

Tom Brady?

Updated.

E-TRAIN: Gunny Highway: sickb0y: DRTFA but fark the NBA. Has anything ever been less interesting than the NBA regular season slog? The product on the court is unwatchable even if you like basketball. I srsly don't know how people get so into it.

srsly.

I like seeing where defenses bring their double teams from and when. Things you don't see in the college game. I like seeing how offenses try to balance offensive movement to occupy a defense while making sure their best players get the ball instead of mindlessly following a rote system. I like seeing how well defenses defend screens, and most importantly, how they adjust during a game. It takes a college coach until halftime to make adjustments.

I like seeing offensive creativity. I like seeing how offenses try to create mismatches and then attack. I don't mind seeing the occasional isolation if it's late in the shot clock or against an inferior defender. I like charting plays and seeing just how well a defender defends the post, defends screen/rolls, provides accurate help, etc, and what a team tries to do on the weakside of its offense. I love how the long NBA season provides a large sample size to measure all this, to discuss it, and to see how teams adjust strategies the second, third, and fourth times they play.

Most importantly, I love fundamentals. How many times does a college player set a hard screen? How many players know how to attack mismatches? Offenses are predicated on systems where players have zero creativity. Players take awful shot after awful shot. Defenses are hidden in zones with offenses that have no idea how to attack them. Zones generally get eaten up in the NBA.

If you love basketball, if you love the minutiae, the details, the creativity, you'll love the NBA. If you simply get turned off by the average NBA player not fitting the ideal of the person you want entertaining you on a given night, you'll turn to the college game where players are faceless and mediocrity is championed. The college game is borderline unwatchable.

I'm a Florida Gators fan. Its sickening how their players can't feed the post, can't pass on the drive, only resort to wing and high ball-screens with the roller trying to seal in the post, and they're, what, the eighth best team in the nation? Players don't finish at the rim, taking bizarre 10-foot runners that aren't practiced, and jacking up early threes. When you watch the NBA and come back to the college game, it's multiple notches below in terms of quality of play. Why resort to a mediocre product if you want to watch the best basketball?

Meh, to each his own I guess.

THIS. College basketball is horrible. Like watching chickens running around with their heads cut off 90% of the time.

From the same site, a much more interesting article by The Sports Guy himself. Simmons has this nailed to the wall: David Stern has completely screwed himself, the NBA, the Hornets, and Chris Paul at this point in the CP3 trade debacle.

He's elevated himself from merely being "that annoying commissioner" to the likes of Selig and Bettman. In not years, not months, not weeks: DAYS.

mitchcumstein1: E-TRAIN: Gunny Highway: sickb0y: DRTFA but fark the NBA. Has anything ever been less interesting than the NBA regular season slog? The product on the court is unwatchable even if you like basketball. I srsly don't know how people get so into it.

srsly.

I like seeing where defenses bring their double teams from and when. Things you don't see in the college game. I like seeing how offenses try to balance offensive movement to occupy a defense while making sure their best players get the ball instead of mindlessly following a rote system. I like seeing how well defenses defend screens, and most importantly, how they adjust during a game. It takes a college coach until halftime to make adjustments.

I like seeing offensive creativity. I like seeing how offenses try to create mismatches and then attack. I don't mind seeing the occasional isolation if it's late in the shot clock or against an inferior defender. I like charting plays and seeing just how well a defender defends the post, defends screen/rolls, provides accurate help, etc, and what a team tries to do on the weakside of its offense. I love how the long NBA season provides a large sample size to measure all this, to discuss it, and to see how teams adjust strategies the second, third, and fourth times they play.

Most importantly, I love fundamentals. How many times does a college player set a hard screen? How many players know how to attack mismatches? Offenses are predicated on systems where players have zero creativity. Players take awful shot after awful shot. Defenses are hidden in zones with offenses that have no idea how to attack them. Zones generally get eaten up in the NBA.

If you love basketball, if you love the minutiae, the details, the creativity, you'll love the NBA. If you simply get turned off by the average NBA player not fitting the ideal of the person you want entertaining you on a given night, you'll turn to the college game where players are faceless and mediocrity is championed. The ...

I mean, there are plenty of reasons to watch college sports. I'm much more a fan of the college football game than the NFL for example. The pageantry, the fight songs, the huge talent discrepancies which make upsets so thrilling, the fact that games are such events to fans of huge programs, this all appeals to me. But I'd never suggest that college football is a better football product than the NFL.The quality of play isn't nearly up to snuff, which is fine.

Fans of college bball who say the on-court basketball product of the college game is better than the NBA are either dumb or blind. I watch my Gators play and college fans should watch the college game. But to say the NBA is unwatchable is only true to those who don't like watching basketball at the highest level it can be played at.

justinguarini4ever: Black men wearing glasses are treated better by white people.





Approves.

FiendishFellow05: From the same site, a much more interesting article by The Sports Guy himself. Simmons has this nailed to the wall: David Stern has completely screwed himself, the NBA, the Hornets, and Chris Paul at this point in the CP3 trade debacle.

He's elevated himself from merely being "that annoying commissioner" to the likes of Selig and Bettman. In not years, not months, not weeks: DAYS.

Simmons has stepped his game up with this running diary on the crappiness of the NBA through the lockout and now. I am of the opinion the league is going to make Paul stay. No one goes to Hornets games. League goes contraction happy next season