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(Some Out of Work Tour Guide) Interesting So you want to operate a mule drawn carriage and make up stories about The French Quarter? We'll just need you to pass a history test, submit to a criminal background check and pee into this little cup please   (wwltv.com) divider line 39
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2011-12-13 11:07:10 AM
New Orleans regulating local businesses?

Color me shocked
 
2011-12-13 11:25:29 AM
You should take the tour bus in Dublin. Every one you get on you'll hear different stories about the streets, the park, and the Guinness brewery, all the while the guide tells you the other guides are out of their minds. After a while you just figure out that the story is less important than how it is told.
 
2011-12-13 11:40:54 AM
piss on them
 
2011-12-13 12:37:06 PM
R.A.Danny: You should take the tour bus in Dublin. Every one you get on you'll hear different stories about the streets, the park, and the Guinness brewery, all the while the guide tells you the other guides are out of their minds. After a while you just figure out that the story is less important than how it is told.

Same in New Orleans. Half of what you hear is made up. And I'm not counting the ghost tours, which are obviously 100% made up.
 
2011-12-13 12:50:23 PM
Seriously, you want them to haul around tourists all all day with no drugs?
 
2011-12-13 01:02:03 PM
This About That: Seriously, you want them to haul around tourists all all day with no drugs?

I'm pretty sure most of them would be on drugs with or without the tourists.
 
2011-12-13 02:39:44 PM
FTFA The public can be reassured that the individuals providing these services have met the knowledge, background check, drug-screening standards."

What do you suppose is the percentage of City leaders that could pass these same tests?
 
2011-12-13 02:51:58 PM
Ctrl-H "Tour Guides" "Journalists"

"Journalists in New Orleans are required, by law, to have a city issued permit. We believe that licensed journalists , who are important ambassadors for New Orleans, provide a consistent standard of information being presented to the visitors and citizens of our great city. The public can be reassured that the individuals providing these services have met the knowledge, background check, drug-screening standards."

All of a sudden, shiat got dystopian.
 
2011-12-13 02:58:33 PM
Do you have to have to a working pyloric valve and be wearing hunting cap, flannel shirt, baggy pants?
 
2011-12-13 03:03:35 PM
Wait, those tour guides are actually expected to be drug-free?

Threadjack:

Is Christmas in the Oaks going to have the ice skating rink this year?
 
2011-12-13 03:13:30 PM
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2011-12-13 03:13:43 PM
I'm getting a kick out of this, because I've been a licensed tour guide in Charleston, SC for more than a decade.

I'm really stoked because they're finally releasing the updated Tour Guide Book, even more so because it's now a searchable CD.

/It's a great job, not everyone's cut out for it, I don't drink before tours because then I'd never shut up...
 
2011-12-13 03:14:20 PM
People who hate hearing "nawlins" to file lawsuit against both parties.
 
2011-12-13 03:23:36 PM
LurkerIndeed: Wait, those tour guides are actually expected to be drug-free?

Threadjack:

Is Christmas in the Oaks going to have the ice skating rink this year?


Yes:

http://celebrationintheoaks.com/cito10/


Are you a NOLA Farker?
 
2011-12-13 03:31:21 PM
I was there a few weeks ago and was disappointed I could not find the "Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers" tour.
\Jackson Square was bigger in the game
 
2011-12-13 03:37:31 PM
Oliver Twisted: FTFA The public can be reassured that the individuals providing these services have met the knowledge, background check, drug-screening standards."

What do you suppose is the percentage of City leaders that could pass these same tests?


What you don't realize is that don't actually test the pee for drugs. They, erm, *USE* it in other ways.
 
2011-12-13 03:42:57 PM
Years ago my wife, daughter and I took the mule drawn tour.

To this day my wife and I can't agree on the guide.

Either a very effeminate man or masculine woman.

Whichever, the tour was fun. No telling how accurate it was though.
 
2011-12-13 03:55:13 PM
They could move to the "free tour" system that is picking up in Europe. Of course, no one tips and if you do tip a percent goes to the owner. So it's a win-win for no one except cheapskates
 
2011-12-13 04:00:31 PM
downstairs: Are you a NOLA Farker?

Northshore.

(which some people say is NOLA, some say is the evil bland suburbia, blah blah blah...)
 
2011-12-13 04:04:33 PM
LurkerIndeed: downstairs: Are you a NOLA Farker?

Northshore.

(which some people say is NOLA, some say is the evil bland suburbia, blah blah blah...)


Yeah, I have lots of friends on the Northshore. I call it all NOLA.

Not Metarie, though.
 
2011-12-13 04:18:54 PM
admiralpiett: Do you have to have to a working pyloric valve and be wearing hunting cap, flannel shirt, baggy pants?

only if you plan on vending hot dogs.
 
2011-12-13 04:19:18 PM
If the tour is fun, that's all that matters.

Savannah has a hearse tour where you sit in the back of a hearse and they have a pop up section so that you can fit.
 
2011-12-13 05:19:07 PM
some walking ghost tour stopped outside of the lobby of the guest house during my wedding. They just stopped and started pointing at us during our reception.

/ we got married in that place because it was beautiful, not because it was haunted. also, it was where tennessee williams wrote some of his stuff. he's not my favorite, but it was neat to stay in his former room.

but, in all seriousness, most of those tours are completely bogus. you will learn much more by talking to people who are from here. the tour guides are always from somewhere like ohio and they don;t necessarily make things up, they just don't do their research. they tell the urban legends as if they were true, and since they're too lazy to do their research, they completely miss out on the truth which is tenfold more interesting
 
2011-12-13 05:41:17 PM
pute kisses like a man: some walking ghost tour stopped outside of the lobby of the guest house during my wedding. They just stopped and started pointing at us during our reception.

/ we got married in that place because it was beautiful, not because it was haunted. also, it was where tennessee williams wrote some of his stuff. he's not my favorite, but it was neat to stay in his former room.

but, in all seriousness, most of those tours are completely bogus. you will learn much more by talking to people who are from here. the tour guides are always from somewhere like ohio and they don;t necessarily make things up, they just don't do their research. they tell the urban legends as if they were true, and since they're too lazy to do their research, they completely miss out on the truth which is tenfold more interesting


I remember going on one because my lame-ass friend really wanted to. The guide pointed out a balcony that was apparently what inspired "House of the Rising Sun."

Yeah, no.
 
2011-12-13 06:05:52 PM
I went on a ghost tour in New Orleans led by a guy who studied to be a history guide but found out the money was better in ghost touring. We passed a historical tour and overheard their guide give the date the building we were all passing was built. Evidently, it was the wrong one as our guide said to us, "Come on, even if you hadn't researched it, it's on the building."

/bonne historie, frere
 
2011-12-13 06:15:02 PM
Why are government officials so eager to collect our urine?

/Why don't they all get jobs at the sewage treatment plant.
//Where, presumably, they could be surrounded by their peers.
 
2011-12-13 07:51:46 PM
Trolljegeren: Why are government officials so eager to collect our urine?

/


Well, most government computer networks block Craigslist.
 
2011-12-13 07:55:23 PM
The IJ already kicked LA's ass on one issue (a stupid rent-seeking law urged by big funeral-home conglomerates, which said that to sell coffins you had to be a licensed mortician with embalming facilities and a completed internship in embalming). I hope they win on this one as well. It's just current tour guides seeking to eliminate competition.
 
2011-12-13 08:09:22 PM
When I first moved to LA it was to the French Quarter. One of my neighbors was one of the ghost tour guides. I know he had done his research as he was a crazy obsessive geek like me. But it was more on the urban legends with a little bit of the history. He treated me to a free tour once and he was a magnificent show man. Which is what I think they should really be testing for. Its easy to memorize a few facts. Its a whole different thing to wrap them up in a half improved show while herding up to 30-40 drunken tourists.

There was also a lot of questionable practices going on about one group stealing each others business and the whole similarly named tours.

And threadjack think we can scare up enough NS NOLA residents for a night o'drinkin?
 
2011-12-13 08:36:25 PM
You have to go through all that to tell a bunch of strangers "Hey, look, more shiathole over here, too"?
 
2011-12-13 09:32:17 PM
SevenizGud: You have to go through all that to tell a bunch of strangers "Hey, look, more shiathole over here, too"?

You probably also need to have good credit after the worst financial meltdown in 3 generations. AND you may need to have your "lifestyle" investigated.

/crap I've seen on applications I never bothered to fill out.

Ken at Popehat: ... It's just current tour guides seeking to eliminate competition.

This is the source of most of the "burdensome regulations" small business owners complain about: the big guys trying to create barriers to entry for the small, new guys.
 
2011-12-13 10:21:52 PM
I have no problem with this. When information is the sole commodity, especially in a place as rich in history as New Orleans, there needs to be a way of attempting to ensure the purity of the information's "ingredients."

Among media, advertising is the commodity - the information or entertainment just fills in the spaces around it. Moreover, reputable newspapers and websites that traffic in some kind of news will have ways for consumers to publicly speak out if the information is bad.

That's not really possible with a tourguide. You could take notes, research what he tells you, and if it's bullsheet go back the next day and shout "He's Lying!" but then he could sue you.

Anybody know what the policy is in London??
 
2011-12-14 02:08:17 AM
If you hang out on a corner in the FQ long enough for 10 tours to pass by within earshot, you'll hear 10 different BS narrations. My high school buds & I used to do that for kicks. I don't know if the 1st Am. issue is legit (could be an interesting question), but I do know tour guides are classic hustlers who are freewheeling with total BS.
 
2011-12-14 08:45:38 AM
"And if you look to your left, you can see where Hitler was shot..."
 
2011-12-14 09:20:54 AM
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2011-12-14 11:01:40 AM
They used to have a Vampire Tour, several years back. It was a hoot!
 
2011-12-14 11:18:13 AM
ghare: Ken at Popehat: ... It's just current tour guides seeking to eliminate competition.

This is the source of most of the "burdensome regulations" small business owners complain about: the big guys trying to create barriers to entry for the small, new guys.


99% of the time that is the reason for regulation. Someone making money lobbies to keep other people out of his market.

/ the other 1% is that extremely rare regulation in favor of the consumer. normally, that doesn't happen until a series of lawsuits have been won in favor of the consumer, so it's basically like a regulation to keep whatever industry is in question from bankrupting itself by its own stupidity.
 
2011-12-14 11:25:27 AM
although, one of my favorite false new orleans history is the tomb of marie laveau. there was this mayor who was very proud of himself. He planned to put all of his accomplishments on his tomb, but was concerned that, once he was dead and interred, no one would visit his tomb. So, he put a plaque on the tomb next to his that said, here is the tomb of marie laveau (voodoo priestess, bla bla bla). that way, every tourist in st louis cemetery 1 is going to stand right next to his tomb.

/ good luck finding the real tomb. actually, it's not hard, you just have to know what to look for. it's like choosing the right cup at the end of the indiana jones the last crusade.
// what would be even funnier, if everything i just said was false.
/// although, this issue is pretty obvious to most people, tour guides still habitually take people to the wrong tomb, claiming it is the true tomb, because it looks more voodoo-y.
 
2011-12-16 04:41:41 PM
If you go, take the drink tour with Joe. He said he would take us to the best places that made the best drinks (and show us some pretty cool behind-the-scenes places) and he was damn right. He also (literally) wrote the book on the drinks on the drink tour (saved me writting down the recipes as we go). Hes a quirkly looking old guy, but man is he good!

Don't take the driving tour (the one from that pamphlet that has both a city bus tour and a swamp tour). The tour guide was an idiot and an ass. She literally got mad at the people asking questions. She also spent half the tour bemoaning how the lower 9th ward got scewed by basically everyone in the world.
 
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