Just like your Mom.

"We're not giving in to bigotry... We're just afraid to lose bigots' money."

As far as the bigots organizing the boycott go, are they really upset because a show portrays Arab-Americans as *gasp* normal Americans and not deranged murderers?

Have these assholes seen any of the other shows on this channel? No problems with all the 'Look my vagina's a clown car!" type-shows or the "I married a bunch of 13 year old girls" shows?

keylock71: As far as the bigots organizing the boycott go, are they really upset because a show portrays Arab-Americans as *gasp* normal Americans and not deranged murderers?

I heard a quote by one of these lunatics on the radio this morning, and I shiat you not, they said that the people on the show can't be Muslims because they're not blowing themselves up, oppressing women, instituting Sharia law, or beheading people.

Sharia law

This phrase cracks me up. I wish there were a nice soundbite name for the backwards-ass crap right-wing kooks in this country are trying to impose.

That excuse didn't fly with my parents when I was 12. It shouldn't fly with the American people.

The Florida Family Association, a little-known group that has campaigned against the show, has branded "All-American Muslim" "propaganda" that is "clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law."

um...this is parody, right? people don't actually talk like this for realz, do they?

Weaver95: The Florida Family Association, a little-known group that has campaigned against the show, has branded "All-American Muslim" "propaganda" that is "clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law."

um...this is parody, right? people don't actually talk like this for realz, do they?

I saw some guy from that group being interviewed on CNN. After about 30 seconds of him talking I started yelling at the TV. Yes, there REALLY are people like this.

Smokey the Bare: Weaver95: The Florida Family Association, a little-known group that has campaigned against the show, has branded "All-American Muslim" "propaganda" that is "clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law."

um...this is parody, right? people don't actually talk like this for realz, do they?

I saw some guy from that group being interviewed on CNN. After about 30 seconds of him talking I started yelling at the TV. Yes, there REALLY are people like this.

It's hard to perpetuate falsehoods and unfounded fears if you allow any Muslims to be portrayed in a non-negative light.

Diogenes:
It's hard to perpetuate falsehoods and unfounded fears if you allow any Muslims to be portrayed in a non-negative light.

People might even have to start treating them as if they are actual human beings! With rights and everything.

serpent_sky: Diogenes:
It's hard to perpetuate falsehoods and unfounded fears if you allow any Muslims to be portrayed in a non-negative light.

People might even have to start treating them as if they are actual human beings! With rights and everything.

no, really...this is the 21st century. I thought this crap went away now that we're all living in the future.

Never shopping at Lowes again. I detest Home Depot too, but there's some things my local Ace guy doesn't carry.

BTW, my ex-cop stepdaughter is head of security at Lowe's here in Asheville. Here's a tidbit I bet you didn't know. Security is not allowed to stop, or even touch, a shoplifter. In the past two weeks, people have walked out with Kobalt truck tool boxes, big boxes of ceiling fan lights, a microwave, and several other items. It grinds her ass as a cop to have to look at them and stay stop, but not be able to do anything about it. One time, the dudes parked out front for a quick getaway, and they left the keys in their car. She reached in and took them, and nearly got fired for it. They got away because dude had a spare set in his pocket.

What the fark kind of company allows that kind of shiat? Thank goodness she's going back to work at the sheriff's department in three weeks.

serpent_sky: Diogenes:
It's hard to perpetuate falsehoods and unfounded fears if you allow any Muslims to be portrayed in a non-negative light.

People might even have to start treating them as if they are actual human beings! With rights and everything.

Over my intelligently designed body!

Sleeping Monkey: Sharia law

This phrase cracks me up. I wish there were a nice soundbite name for the backwards-ass crap right-wing kooks in this country are trying to impose.

Well, that's ok because this country was founded on Christian herpyderp and not that Habeeb herpyderp. KNOW YOUR HISTORY!

Sleeping Monkey: Sharia law

This phrase cracks me up. I wish there were a nice soundbite name for the backwards-ass crap right-wing kooks in this country are trying to impose.

Dominionism (new window).

dahmers love zombie: Sleeping Monkey: Sharia law

This phrase cracks me up. I wish there were a nice soundbite name for the backwards-ass crap right-wing kooks in this country are trying to impose.

Dominionism (new window).

Oooooh thank you

The Irish are all drunks
Women are too stupid to vote
The coloreds want all our women
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
A Catholic president means the Pope will control the U.S.
Muslims want to put the U.S. under Sharia law

When understanding someone means you lose power and influence, it becomes easy not to understand them.

How could anyone hate The Qu'osby Show?

Diogenes: That excuse didn't fly with my parents when I was 12. It shouldn't fly with the American people.

Companies were boycotting you?

Sleeping Monkey: Sharia law

This phrase cracks me up. I wish there were a nice soundbite name for the backwards-ass crap right-wing kooks in this country are trying to impose.

Talibangelicals

Paris1127: Diogenes: That excuse didn't fly with my parents when I was 12. It shouldn't fly with the American people.

Companies were boycotting you?

"But Moooommmm....Tim and Susie did it, too!"

Now the group is claiming their website was hacked (new window). More likely, they're getting inundated w/email from people telling them what hateful jackasses they are & it melted their servers.

Text from their homepage (can't get a screengrab while at work):

Terrorist hackers have taken hostile action against the Florida Family Association web site because we published a news report that "The Learning Channel's" new show All-American Muslim is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law. The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish..

This hostile attempt to destroy our web site demonstrates the very reason why we took the position on this program in the first place. These anarchists' mission is to silence anyone who disagrees with them thus forcing an unchallenged position on the people at large.

Every American's First Amendment Rights are in jeopardy when barbarians like these are allowed to violate federal law with acts of cyber piracy. Don't expect federal authorities, especially the FBI, to do anything about this though because the policies of the current administration favor the political posture of these cyber terrorists.

Because of our real concern for the terrorism that is a way of life for some folks, we ourselves have become victims. Because we urge others to be vigilant, we become the targets. Don't let it happen folks, take a stand before it is too late. Please support Florida Family Association.

Emphases mine. It was hard to keep the bolding down to a minimum with all the "ooga-booga" catchphrases in there.

darkhorse23: What the fark kind of company allows that kind of shiat?

Ever retail chain I worked for has that exact same policy. Loss prevention is not allowed to touch anyone, and usually is not allowed to leave the property in pursuit. Their job is to be a good witness, get a good description of the thief and the license plate/vehicle description and provide it to the police.

There's too much liability if there's an altercation and someone gets hurt. Better to lose a $50 microwave than face a $1 million lawsuit. Also, if they stop someone, and that person hasn't stolen anything (or managed to ditch it off camera when they saw loss prevention coming) there's all sorts of potential civil and criminal consequences. False arrest. Detainment. Even criminal kidnapping.

I think people should write letters to Loews saying they have lost their business, due to bowing to pressure from special interest groups, and for appearing to be bigots by pulling their support for a show that could actually do some good for Muslim-American relations in this country.

You know what the problem is? As much as I think that is a good idea? I know I won't write that letter. I will remember not to shop there, sure, but I'm just not some annoying person who goes firing off letters to companies when I disagree with them on something.

I know, that's kind of sad, but I think most people are that way, to be honest.

They shouldn't have caved to bigots, but on the other hand they should have seen this coming in the first place. They aren't the NEA or PBS (allegedly neutral) or some nonprofit with an agenda. Lowe's pays for advertising to sell you shiat. Period.

I fault Lowe's for being terrible at PR and someone needs to get fired for this debacle. I'm surprised they chose to advertise on this show in the first place. Maybe they had some data that suggested Muslims prefer Home Depot or something.

Even if there's no controversy in the show (disclosure: I haven't seen it), TLC clearly understood the name/concept would generate controversy and potential ratings. You would think some brand manager at Lowe's would have deduced any potential blowback and either not advertised or had a solid strategy in place just in case.

There should be lots of pink slips to go around this Christmastime at Lowe's Corporate and deservedly so.

serpent_sky: I think people should write letters to Loews saying they have lost their business, due to bowing to pressure from special interest groups, and for appearing to be bigots by pulling their support for a show that could actually do some good for Muslim-American relations in this country.

You know what the problem is? As much as I think that is a good idea? I know I won't write that letter. I will remember not to shop there, sure, but I'm just not some annoying person who goes firing off letters to companies when I disagree with them on something.

I know, that's kind of sad, but I think most people are that way, to be honest.

It certainly worked for Florida Family Association, didn't it? Granted, they probably ran off a ream of form letters & just mailed them en masse, but still, they proved to be rather effective.

dahmers love zombie: Dominionism (new window).

Yep. Nice.

Aarontology: keylock71: As far as the bigots organizing the boycott go, are they really upset because a show portrays Arab-Americans as *gasp* normal Americans and not deranged murderers?

I heard a quote by one of these lunatics on the radio this morning, and I shiat you not, they said that the people on the show can't be Muslims because they're not blowing themselves up, oppressing women, instituting Sharia law, or beheading people.

Yeah, I heard the same thing on NPR this morning on the drive into work... I was getting pissed listening to that clown make baseless accusation after baseless accusation about American Muslims with no facts to back it up.

I'm glad that NPR puts this group's bigotry and ignorance on display for rational Americans to hear, but it would have been nice if they at least made these clowns back up their claims with facts.

azmoviez: TLC clearly understood the name/concept would generate controversy

Muslim families simply existing is a controversy.

ShawnDoc: False arrest. Detainment. Even criminal kidnapping.

She's been a cop for 14 years so she knows about all of that. It's still ridiculous.

Dusk-You-n-Me :Muslim families simply existing is a controversy.

Perhaps a poor choice of words on my part. TLC knew that the name/concept would be polarizing and good for ratings. I mean they are the network that aired the Palin reality show, right?

brigid_fitch: Now the group is claiming their website was hacked (new window). More likely, they're getting inundated w/email from people telling them what hateful jackasses they are & it melted their servers.

Text from their homepage (can't get a screengrab while at work):

Terrorist hackers have taken hostile action against the Florida Family Association web site because we published a news report that "The Learning Channel's" new show All-American Muslim is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law. The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish..

This hostile attempt to destroy our web site demonstrates the very reason why we took the position on this program in the first place. These anarchists' mission is to silence anyone who disagrees with them thus forcing an unchallenged position on the people at large.

Every American's First Amendment Rights are in jeopardy when barbarians like these are allowed to violate federal law with acts of cyber piracy. Don't expect federal authorities, especially the FBI, to do anything about this though because the policies of the current administration favor the political posture of these cyber terrorists.

Because of our real concern for the terrorism that is a way of life for some folks, we ourselves have become victims. Because we urge others to be vigilant, we become the targets. Don't let it happen folks, take a stand before it is too late. Please support Florida Family Association.

Emphases mine. It was hard to keep the bolding down to a minimum with all the "ooga-booga" catchphrases in there.

It explains a lot when you realize their definition of "terrorism" is "things that happen that we don't like".

I've been watching the show, and it shows normal everyday families. There is really nothing radical or shocking about the show at all.

The Kardashians are WAY more of a threat than those families in Michigan are.

azmoviez: They shouldn't have caved to bigots, but on the other hand they should have seen this coming in the first place. They aren't the NEA or PBS (allegedly neutral) or some nonprofit with an agenda. Lowe's pays for advertising to sell you shiat. Period.

I fault Lowe's for being terrible at PR and someone needs to get fired for this debacle. I'm surprised they chose to advertise on this show in the first place. Maybe they had some data that suggested Muslims prefer Home Depot or something.

Even if there's no controversy in the show (disclosure: I haven't seen it), TLC clearly understood the name/concept would generate controversy and potential ratings. You would think some brand manager at Lowe's would have deduced any potential blowback and either not advertised or had a solid strategy in place just in case.

There should be lots of pink slips to go around this Christmastime at Lowe's Corporate and deservedly so.

I wonder though if companies just buy a "package" to advertise on TLC... across the whole network. Not that they shouldn't still have someone checking out the individual shows, but, I could see that they possibly didn't "specifically" reach out to advertise on AAM.

dletter:I wonder though if companies just buy a "package" to advertise on TLC... across the whole network. Not that they shouldn't still have someone checking out the individual shows, but, I could see that they possibly didn't "specifically" reach out to advertise on AAM.

You are probably right, but if this situation grows, I can see companies being more choosy. I can still see some heads rolling because of how this has publicly unfolded.

vernonFL: I've been watching the show, and it shows normal everyday families. There is really nothing radical or shocking about the show at all.

I think that's the main problem these bigots are having with the show...

Muslims are all dangerous radicals that want to enslave your daughters and murder all Christians in the minds of these folks and showing them as normal Americans is "dangerous propaganda".

You can't make this shiat up... it's not surprising they're based in Florida, honestly.

The truth is that most societies don't reflect their religion, but, rather, religion reflects the society in which it exists. The degree of fundamentalism in any religion is generally inversely related to socioeconomic status. Thus, the more a religious group becomes integrated into a society, the more it will reflect that society's values and mores. Marginalization only breeds radicalism.

Or I could just tell the hypocrites to read Matthew 18: 21-22

Weaver95: The Florida Family Association, a little-known group that has campaigned against the show, has branded "All-American Muslim" "propaganda" that is "clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law."

um...this is parody, right? people don't actually talk like this for realz, do they?

...the NRO just ran an article blaming Liberals for Cain's indiscretions, and you have to ask this?

keylock71: vernonFL: I've been watching the show, and it shows normal everyday families. There is really nothing radical or shocking about the show at all.

I think that's the main problem these bigots are having with the show...

Muslims are all dangerous radicals that want to enslave your daughters and murder all Christians in the minds of these folks and showing them as normal Americans is "dangerous propaganda".

You can't make this shiat up... it's not surprising they're based in Florida, honestly.

Yeah, um...on behalf of the 20% or so of Floridians who are actually sane and relatively educated, I would like to sincerely apologize for the existence of this group. The alligators are being moved into position as we speak and the threat to intelligence and logic will soon be all over the swamp. Um, I mean "abated".

/just kidding about the alligators
_{//they're actually crocodiles}

dahmers love zombie: Yeah, um...on behalf of the 20% or so of Floridians who are actually sane and relatively educated, I would like to sincerely apologize for the existence of this group. The alligators are being moved into position as we speak and the threat to intelligence and logic will soon be all over the swamp. Um, I mean "abated".

/just kidding about the alligators
//they're actually crocodiles

Heh... if only it were that easy to rid any state of ignorance and bigotry.

Meh. Don't want to shop there, don't, for whatever reason. It won't hurt them. At the end of the day it doesn't harm Muslims. Just scripted pseudo reality bullshiat. I'm more inclined to go somewhere else if they did. Or Jersey, or Survivor, or Amazing Race for that matter. That whole genre of TV is a bane on all our houses.

OregonVet: At the end of the day it doesn't harm Muslims.

I have Muslim students in my classes who work at our local Lowe's. I can only imagine what their company is telling them, if anything.