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(Your Houston News)   Being crazy won't keep Texas from executing you. But to be fair, it won't stop Texas from electing you governor, either   (yourhoustonnews.com) divider line 72
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2011-12-13 11:42:25 AM  
true, dat
 
2011-12-13 11:57:19 AM  
As much as I am against capital punishment, I can't help but think that at least it's one less Texan.
 
2011-12-13 12:48:34 PM  
Stop you?, hell it's pretty much a requirement.
 
2011-12-13 02:11:30 PM  
Well done subby. +1
 
2011-12-13 02:12:31 PM  
So, is now the appropriate time to point out the legal definition of insanity has no basis in mental health?
 
2011-12-13 02:14:08 PM  

caddisfly: Well done subby. +1

 
2011-12-13 02:14:59 PM  
Not that I'm in favour of the death penalty so long as they keep on executing innocent people... But if someone isn't mentally responsible enough to be able to face the justice system then they have no business being allowed out in public unsupervised.
 
2011-12-13 02:16:48 PM  
Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.
 
2011-12-13 02:18:38 PM  
Why does that site hate my Droid so much?
 
2011-12-13 02:19:12 PM  

SDRR: caddisfly: Well done subby. +1

 
2011-12-13 02:20:14 PM  
Hell, being INNOCENT isn't enough to stop them from executing you. Once you're falsely convicted, you're not getting out of it.
 
2011-12-13 02:20:51 PM  

jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.


It's time for you to point that out if it's time for me to point out that a capital murder trial and it's automatic appeal process costs more than a lifetime in prison.
 
2011-12-13 02:21:18 PM  
I'm not ashamed to admit I'm an executioner...but you don't have to have your hand on the switch every Sunday to realize that there's a problem in this country....
 
2011-12-13 02:24:22 PM  

jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.


You sound Christian.
 
2011-12-13 02:25:04 PM  

stpauler: As much as I am against capital punishment, I can't help but think that at least it's one less Texan.


Really? Fark you too, buddy.
Screw you..we're from Texas.

dillsnapcogitation.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-12-13 02:26:59 PM  
Maud Dib: stpauler: As much as I am against capital punishment, I can't help but think that at least it's one less Texan.

Really? Fark you too, buddy.
Screw you..we're from Texas.

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You people elected Rick "Ima Pray for you" Perry. That's worse than, like, the holocaust, man.
 
2011-12-13 02:27:54 PM  

Egoy3k: jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.

It's time for you to point that out if it's time for me to point out that a capital murder trial and it's automatic appeal process costs more than a lifetime in prison.


My turn to point out, that setting them free costs nothing.
 
2011-12-13 02:29:08 PM  
In Texas, unlike many states, at some stages of the proceedings mental competency is decided by a jury rather than a presiding judge.

Seriously? That's horrifying.
 
2011-12-13 02:29:44 PM  

Jebus Slaves: Why does that site hate my Droid so much?


I think it was trying to electrocute mine. Which seems fitting as it does act retarded from time to time.
 
2011-12-13 02:30:29 PM  
There's NO WAY Willie Nelson voted for Rick Perry. Stop including yourself with him!
 
2011-12-13 02:30:35 PM  

BronyMedic:

You people elected Rick "Ima Pray for you" Perry. That's worse than, like, the holocaust, man.


drkronner.files.wordpress.com

I voted for Kinky.
 
2011-12-13 02:30:53 PM  

georgeyporgey: Egoy3k: jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.

It's time for you to point that out if it's time for me to point out that a capital murder trial and it's automatic appeal process costs more than a lifetime in prison.

My turn to point out, that setting them free costs nothing.


Yes but that's not really an acceptable solution is it?
 
2011-12-13 02:31:56 PM  
tards electing tards that execute tards
 
2011-12-13 02:31:56 PM  

BronyMedic: You people elected Rick "Ima Pray for you" Perry. That's worse than, like, the holocaust, man.


What a wise decision by our voters, lets vote for a version of Dubya without the sophistication or intellectual curiosity..
 
2011-12-13 02:33:00 PM  
Anti- death penalty people are the same ones who biatch and moan about prison overcrowding, and prisons releasing convicts back into the population.

What we need is what England did. another Australia.
A place to dump them all off and let them fend for themselves.
 
2011-12-13 02:33:13 PM  
Yeah - from 1874 until 1979, Texas had a slew of horrible governors.
 
2011-12-13 02:33:30 PM  
Capital punishment is given to those who can't afford a decent defence. It's not something that happens to rich people. It's another means of keeping the poor in their place.
 
2011-12-13 02:33:42 PM  

stevenvictx: Anti- death penalty people are the same ones who biatch and moan about prison overcrowding, and prisons releasing convicts back into the population.

What we need is what England did. another Australia.
A place to dump them all off and let them fend for themselves.


I thought that's what Texas was for.
 
2011-12-13 02:34:47 PM  
www.laughstub.com

Mah state's puttin in an express lane.
 
2011-12-13 02:35:15 PM  
t.qkme.me
 
2011-12-13 02:37:34 PM  
After 10 years of Rick Perry, I'd take "crazy" in a heartbeat. It's way better than "retarded."
 
2011-12-13 02:39:23 PM  

Egoy3k: georgeyporgey: Egoy3k: jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.

It's time for you to point that out if it's time for me to point out that a capital murder trial and it's automatic appeal process costs more than a lifetime in prison.

My turn to point out, that setting them free costs nothing.

Yes but that's not really an acceptable solution is it?


Correct, that is unacceptable. I could have suggested house arrest as well. That also would be unacceptable. But, once you accept that fact that punishment costs money. The money argument is no longer valid. No ?

It is more acceptable argument to say that the state shouldn't kill people, or my religious beliefs forbid me from advocating capital punishment. BTW, neither of which I agree with.
 
2011-12-13 02:39:46 PM  

stevenvictx: Anti- death penalty people are the same ones who biatch and moan about prison overcrowding, and prisons releasing convicts back into the population.


Two separate issues. The amount of criminals executed even in a execution happy state like Texas is absolutely miniscule and would have no significant impact on prison overcrowding.

Prison overcrowding is not the result of not killing enough criminals, its a result of our idiotic war on drugs creating more crime and packing our prisons with both the criminals it creates and non violent drug offenders.
 
2011-12-13 02:40:08 PM  

georgeyporgey: Egoy3k: jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.

It's time for you to point that out if it's time for me to point out that a capital murder trial and it's automatic appeal process costs more than a lifetime in prison.

My turn to point out, that setting them free costs nothing.


How? Public assistance, public housing, police and the more crimes they commit cost money as well.
 
2011-12-13 02:41:16 PM  
Why would wisdom and sober thinking matter to people who pride themselves on seeing the world in stark black and white and on acting on their gut?
 
2011-12-13 02:50:19 PM  

georgeyporgey: Egoy3k: georgeyporgey: Egoy3k: jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.

It's time for you to point that out if it's time for me to point out that a capital murder trial and it's automatic appeal process costs more than a lifetime in prison.

My turn to point out, that setting them free costs nothing.

Yes but that's not really an acceptable solution is it?

Correct, that is unacceptable. I could have suggested house arrest as well. That also would be unacceptable. But, once you accept that fact that punishment costs money. The money argument is no longer valid. No ?

It is more acceptable argument to say that the state shouldn't kill people, or my religious beliefs forbid me from advocating capital punishment. BTW, neither of which I agree with.


I don't see how cost is invalidated by that logic at all. Just because it is going to cost something doesn't mean we shouldn't expect it to cost as little as is necessary.

I would say that I advocate for the cheapest solution that protects society, thus life in prison. If we took your logic to the fullest extension incarcerating them in a orbital prison or on the moon would also be on the table.
 
2011-12-13 02:57:52 PM  

Jebus Slaves: Why does that site hate my Droid so much?


They don't allow droids in there...
 
2011-12-13 02:58:36 PM  
The mentally ill have already been released into the streets. Somewhere someone has the rates of mental illness in the homeless population. My google-fu is hampered by work restrictions. :(
 
2011-12-13 02:59:45 PM  
The cheapest way to house inmates would be to stop locking people up for marijuana and similar 'crimes' and clear out a large percentage of those in gaol in the usa.

/doesn't smoke pot
 
2011-12-13 02:59:59 PM  

stpauler: As much as I am against capital punishment, I can't help but think that at least it's one less Texan.


Now that's a good point.
 
2011-12-13 03:02:18 PM  

Egoy3k: georgeyporgey: Egoy3k: georgeyporgey: Egoy3k: jaybeezey: Is now the appropriate time to point out that homicidal and insane is not how I would describe the sort of people I'd like to see on the streets or pay to keep alive for life.

It's time for you to point that out if it's time for me to point out that a capital murder trial and it's automatic appeal process costs more than a lifetime in prison.

My turn to point out, that setting them free costs nothing.

Yes but that's not really an acceptable solution is it?

Correct, that is unacceptable. I could have suggested house arrest as well. That also would be unacceptable. But, once you accept that fact that punishment costs money. The money argument is no longer valid. No ?

It is more acceptable argument to say that the state shouldn't kill people, or my religious beliefs forbid me from advocating capital punishment. BTW, neither of which I agree with.

I don't see how cost is invalidated by that logic at all. Just because it is going to cost something doesn't mean we shouldn't expect it to cost as little as is necessary.

I would say that I advocate for the cheapest solution that protects society, thus life in prison. If we took your logic to the fullest extension incarcerating them in a orbital prison or on the moon would also be on the table.




How would sending them to a different planet be better than executing them.

// Am I the only that is thinking of Salusa Secundus ?
 
2011-12-13 03:05:03 PM  
CarrieWhite 2011-12-13 02:59:45 PM

The cheapest way to house inmates would be to stop locking people up for marijuana and similar 'crimes' and clear out a large percentage of those in gaol in the usa.

/doesn't smoke pot



Plug it up, Carrie.
 
2011-12-13 03:08:09 PM  

Copper Spork: Not that I'm in favour of the death penalty so long as they keep on executing innocent people... But if someone isn't mentally responsible enough to be able to face the justice system then they have no business being allowed out in public unsupervised.


If you are found "innocent" by reason of insanity, the don't let you go. They stick you in a mental institution.
 
2011-12-13 03:09:49 PM  

stevenvictx: Anti- death penalty people are the same ones who biatch and moan about prison overcrowding, and prisons releasing convicts back into the population.

What we need is what England did. another Australia.
A place to dump them all off and let them fend for themselves.


How about the moon? They can mine ice and grow wheat for the starving masses back home.

We'll need something foolproof to keep order up there, a person couldn't be trusted with all that power (being well equipped with rocks and sitting atop a huge gravity-well with all of humanity hanging out at the bottom).

Maybe a supercomputer with a quirky sense of humor?
 
2011-12-13 03:11:18 PM  

stevenvictx: Anti- death penalty people are the same ones who biatch and moan about prison overcrowding, and prisons releasing convicts back into the population.


and say mandatory sentencing is going to cause over crowding... oh wait, I see why you left that part out.
 
2011-12-13 03:13:51 PM  

Corvus: If you are found "innocent" by reason of insanity, the don't let you go. They stick you in a mental institution.


They shouldn't be out there in the first place. The crazy and retarded need to be in institutions before they commit a crime, not after.
 
2011-12-13 03:17:30 PM  

georgeyporgey: How would sending them to a different planet be better than executing them.


It isn't. It was a lame joke used to point out the flaw in your logic.
 
2011-12-13 03:18:56 PM  

Corvus: Copper Spork: Not that I'm in favour of the death penalty so long as they keep on executing innocent people... But if someone isn't mentally responsible enough to be able to face the justice system then they have no business being allowed out in public unsupervised.

If you are found "innocent" by reason of insanity, the don't let you go. They stick you in a mental institution.


Competency to stand trial and Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity are not the same thing.
 
2011-12-13 03:26:42 PM  

Egoy3k: georgeyporgey: How would sending them to a different planet be better than executing them.

It isn't. It was a lame joke used to point out the flaw in your logic.


To use your technique, " the cheapest solution that protects society" would be to execute them without a trial. Is that lame enough to point out the flaw in your argument.
 
2011-12-13 03:48:05 PM  

Cagey B: In Texas, unlike many states, at some stages of the proceedings mental competency is decided by a jury rather than a presiding judge.

Seriously? That's horrifying.


Shouldn't it be decided by a psychiatrist?
 
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