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2011-12-13 12:42:57 AM  

Fecal Conservative: Did he hit the checkpoint?


No, he's gotta go back to the beginning of the level.
 
2011-12-13 12:45:20 AM  
I've been told everyone who is legally licensed to carry a handgun has had rigorous background checks and gone through safety training so that irresponsible or mentally ill people can't purchase guns.


Ha ha ha, just kidding. I live in America.
 
2011-12-13 12:50:04 AM  
work in the NW (new York) Kennedy Airport don't ask for the gate my location changes daily due to farkers not calling in before deciding to play farking hookie
 
2011-12-13 12:50:30 AM  
A lot of levels of stupid here.

First, TSA agents are too dumb to touch guns,so the job of handling them is given to real cops.

Then, the real cop that tries to unload it is, again, too dumb to be able to do it. I know there are thousands of types out there, but they all follow the same mechanical principles. Thats kind of an important skill set to have, you know. Police work isn't all about harassing people with jobs to give them money.

But, the cop does it while listening to the owner(?) and still discharges it.
 
2011-12-13 12:53:19 AM  

dustman81: I see they don't teach gun handling.

First rule: All guns are ALWAYS loaded
Second rule: booger hook off the bang switch until ready to fire
Third rule: know your target and what is beyond your target
Fourth rule: don't point the muzzle at anything you don't intend to destroy


I think that's the funniest thing I've ever seen on Fark. Very drill sergeant-ish.

The guy was a tool for "forgetting" he had a loaded weapon in his bag. The TSA dolt is, well, a dolt. No charges for him, but they do get to see if they can attach more charges (read: fines) to the passenger. A metal detector would have prevented this whole thing. Unbelieveable.
 
2011-12-13 12:54:58 AM  

JRoo: I've been told everyone who is legally licensed to carry a handgun has had rigorous background checks and gone through safety training so that irresponsible or mentally ill people can't purchase guns.


Ha ha ha, just kidding. I live in America.


I wish the NRA or some other groups would do some sort of national certification program. You participate, show competence and get qualified. If you screw up, either an ND, or even mishandling it publicly, they could ban you from their facilities that recognize their certification, essentially peer pressuring you into giving up your firearms (or at least not taking them into public) until you get remedial training.
And the state and federal governments could have enough confidence to use such certification to allow/deny employment or the privilege to carry weapons for officers--further enforcing people's responsible behavior.
This way, it's not a "government license to carry a gun" it's a "private organization's statement of their confidence in you". No less authoritarian, but people are more willing to accept being disarmed by an organization that isn't likely to come rounding up the guns and throwing them into prison for political crimes.
 
2011-12-13 01:00:36 AM  

phalaeo: Did the TSA agent get arrested for discharging the weapon in a public space?

/just curious


TSA agents are future henchmen for the antichrist...however, no need fire a person for an accident.

-> No criminal intent = No crime. Get back to work.
 
2011-12-13 01:01:10 AM  

rolladuck: flamingboar: What airport are you working at?

You think you'll be able to tell if he's lying?


Just curious really. Any time I think about what jobs farkers have I always think they are bouncers or truck drivers.
 
2011-12-13 01:05:41 AM  
If a TSA agent were pawing through a bag, not knowing a gun was in it, and he happened to hit the trigger and caused it to fire, that would be an accident.

If a scanner has already indicated that there is a gun, and you pull the gun out of the bag, and then you pull the trigger, that isn't an accident, that's negligence. And stupidity. The cop should be fired, as he's clearly not competent to do his job.

As for the asshole who tried to bring a gun on the flight, screw him. I'm all in favor of responsible gun ownership, but he's clearly not responsible.
 
2011-12-13 01:08:20 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: A gun detected in a carry-on at a checkpoint at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport was accidentally negligently fired by an investigating officer around 9 a.m. Sunday, according to a police report.


I used to have a Highschool science teacher, where on the first day of class explained that there are no accidents, there is negligence. "If you break a $500 microscope, that isn't an accident, that's you being careless. Carry it with both hands at all times."
 
2011-12-13 01:08:35 AM  

dustman81: GGracie: Fifth rule: if you're a TSA agent, point it at your forehead

TSA agents aren't trusted enough to handle firearms. They leave that to the real cops.


there is so much win in this story

TSA too dump to touch guns. sigh
gun owner too stupid to NOT TRAVEL ON A PLANE with a loaded gun.
"meant to check it in my bag???"

um, WTF is wrong with you rtard????
checked or carry-on why the fark is it LOADED ???
bwhahahahahahahahaahhaa

have fun in prison

/the only way that this story could have gotten better is if the TSA agent was shot and killed why playing with big peoples things.
 
2011-12-13 01:10:51 AM  

namatad: dustman81: GGracie: Fifth rule: if you're a TSA agent, point it at your forehead

TSA agents aren't trusted enough to handle firearms. They leave that to the real cops.

there is so much win in this story

TSA too dump to touch guns. sigh
gun owner too stupid to NOT TRAVEL ON A PLANE with a loaded gun.
"meant to check it in my bag???"

um, WTF is wrong with you rtard????
checked or carry-on why the fark is it LOADED ???
bwhahahahahahahahaahhaa

have fun in prison

/the only way that this story could have gotten better is if the TSA agent was shot and killed why playing with big peoples things.


When you opened your can of fail, did it smell like it had gone bad already?
 
2011-12-13 01:12:36 AM  

Ambivalence: StoPPeRmobile: A gun detected in a carry-on at a checkpoint at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport was accidentally negligently fired by an investigating officer around 9 a.m. Sunday, according to a police report.

I used to have a Highschool science teacher, where on the first day of class explained that there are no accidents, there is negligence. "If you break a $500 microscope, that isn't an accident, that's you being careless. Carry it with both hands at all times."


this this this this this this
you fall off a cliff that you were too close to the edge? accident? no. you are a dumbass.
you are talking on the phone and hit something/someone. accident? no. you are a dumbass.

so farking tired of the work accident used incorrectly.

DONT get me started on tragedy. Dumbass teen, drives drunk, plows into tree and dies. this is not tragic. this is an expected outcome for being a dumbass.

sigh
 
2011-12-13 01:12:43 AM  
Honestly, who the Hell in their right mind puts a loaded gun in their carry-on baggage these days? Oh ....sorry, my bad... Asshats who need attention. Silly me.
 
2011-12-13 01:14:18 AM  

firefly212: When you opened your can of fail, did it smell like it had gone bad already?


I wish that there were some way to blame this on a typo or auto-correct. or even dyslexia.
sigh

p's are b's upside down ??
 
2011-12-13 01:14:34 AM  

MattyFridays: Can I ask a serious question?

We have thousands of servicemen and women coming back who know what terrorists are all about. Can you explain to me why they aren't working TSA and are out of work, while someone with half-a-brain and a record is acting like a power hungry douche?


Because the current administration has lumped veterans in with the Aryan Brotherhood and various Muslim groups as potential terrorists.
 
2011-12-13 01:15:14 AM  

indeebud: Honestly, who the Hell in their right mind puts a loaded gun in their carry-on baggage these days? Oh ....sorry, my bad... Asshats who need attention. Silly me.


asshat who wanted to go to jail and prison ?
unless he turns out to be a LEO or a son of someone important, then he will get off with some community service
 
2011-12-13 01:16:04 AM  
whats the cost of a checked bag?

and what is this little incident going to cost this gun-toting idiot?

i think every responsible person should be able to own a firearm--even use the thing as well.

this guy does not sound very responsible.
 
2011-12-13 01:18:29 AM  
whiterrabbit:

Breakdown:

TSA agents are future henchmen for the antichrist... - Agree

however, no need fire a person for an accident. - Disagree

No criminal intent = No crime. Get back to work. - What is this I don't even
 
2011-12-13 01:18:31 AM  
Wow, talking about jacking up the wrong idiot.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11079948-gun-in-carryon-acc i dentally-fires

"Popkin stated he originally intended to check the bag instead of using the carry-on. He changed his mind when he became concerned about the weight of the checked in luggage."

This line has been repeated in several version of the article, including at CNN. It sounds like in the chaos of trying to make a flight and conform with the ridiculous baggage restrictions in place nowadays, he forgot which cup the pea was under. Dumb, but understandable.

Then, the worthless gangbanger TSA agent pulls the Big Red Handle over the whole thing and calls in an incompetent Atlanta cop, who then can't follow the basic rule to KEEP HIS BOOGER HOOK OFF THE BANG SWITCH, manages to fire the weapon in the middle of a crowded airport... And they DON'T CHARGE THE COP?

I suppose making sure The Authorities don't look bad is more important than, say, archaic things like "justice".
 
2011-12-13 01:18:34 AM  
Did anybody blame Obama, yet?
 
2011-12-13 01:20:51 AM  
How hard can it be to open the cylinder on a revolver without discharging it? The gun itself can't be older than 1960 and shouldn't be that difficult.
 
2011-12-13 01:21:17 AM  

twfeline: Did anybody blame Obama, yet?


I can if you want, but I charge per accusation.
 
2011-12-13 01:23:25 AM  
I realize the cop was negligent, but who the packs a loaded gun ?
 
2011-12-13 01:33:37 AM  
$5 sez it's this gun here:

Taurus Model 941 (new window)

.22 magnum, lightweight, modern... and with the Taurus funky security system with a special key needed to enable/disable the trigger and safety lockout... certainly not your average wheelgun - and something a cop or shooter would need some info on to properly safe the weapon...

just drew conclusions from TFA and read between the lines a bit... so I could be wrong...

/views?
 
2011-12-13 01:33:55 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: A gun detected in a carry-on at a checkpoint at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport was accidentally negligently fired by an investigating officer around 9 a.m. Sunday, according to a police report.


That. What the hell, TSA. Even for you guys, what the hell.

mscleo: I realize the cop was negligent, but who the packs a loaded gun ?


Could've been a personal protection gun? Those are generally kept loaded for obvious reasons. Since it was a carry-on, i'm sort of assuming he keeps his self-defense weapon in a briefcase or something.

Also, TSA agent =/= cop. Cops are trained, are selected from an applicant pool for at least minimal education and intelligence, are trained to prioritize safety, and in general deserve slightly more respect than an actual criminal. TSA agents are the exact opposite on every count.
 
2011-12-13 01:34:19 AM  
Sooo, "Open Carry" isn't making much headway in some places eh?
 
2011-12-13 01:36:50 AM  

mscleo: I realize the cop was negligent, but who the packs a loaded gun ?


He was gunna save the day and shoot any turrists on the flight. They errywhere, i tells ya. But them damn libruls jus wouldn't let em.
 
2011-12-13 01:36:55 AM  

HeWhoHasNoName: This line has been repeated in several version of the article, including at CNN. It sounds like in the chaos of trying to make a flight and conform with the ridiculous baggage restrictions in place nowadays, he forgot which cup the pea was under. Dumb, but understandable.


Well there are two issues. You are supposed to declare bangsticks in checked baggage. They are supposed to be in an approved locked case. And must be unloaded. Okay that's three.

Then, the worthless gangbanger TSA agent pulls the Big Red Handle over the whole thing and calls in an incompetent Atlanta cop, who then can't follow the basic rule to KEEP HIS BOOGER HOOK OFF THE BANG SWITCH, manages to fire the weapon in the middle of a crowded airport... And they DON'T CHARGE THE COP?

Deal is the cop should not have tried to unload the gun as well, which makes four farkups. I've handled a fair number of guns, they're all a little different. Handling a strange gun in a place where you do not have a safe direction to point it, is bad.
 
2011-12-13 01:37:02 AM  
I don't see what the big deal is. Who hasn't done a desk pop?
 
2011-12-13 01:39:23 AM  

johndalek: whats the cost of a checked bag?

and what is this little incident going to cost this gun-toting idiot?


penny wise and pound foolish

he saved a few bucks and now it is gonna cost him 10k+ and some prison time
LOL
 
2011-12-13 01:39:49 AM  

namatad:

so farking tired of the work accident used incorrectly.


DONT get me started on tragedy. Dumbass teen, drives drunk, plows into tree and dies. this is not tragic. this is an expected outcome for being a dumbass.

sigh


"So farking tired of the work accident used incorrectly"? I don't even know where to start with that one.
 
2011-12-13 01:41:14 AM  
Why is this surprising? I'm surprised they haven't found someone with a real live Tyrannosaurus Rex yet.
 
2011-12-13 01:51:32 AM  
At first I thought, "why would you not have absolute knowledge of where your gun is IN THE AIRPORT at all times?". Then I thought, "who the hell uses a .22 Magnum?".....get a .380 and be done with it if you aren't going to carry a .40 or .357..
 
2011-12-13 01:55:18 AM  
So the headline is wrong. The TSA didn't fire any gun. It was an Atlanta police officer.

Does anyone ever read the articles?
 
2011-12-13 02:02:35 AM  

Jim_Callahan: StoPPeRmobile: A gun detected in a carry-on at a checkpoint at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport was accidentally negligently fired by an investigating officer around 9 a.m. Sunday, according to a police report.

That. What the hell, TSA. Even for you guys, what the hell.

mscleo: I realize the cop was negligent, but who the packs a loaded gun ?

Could've been a personal protection gun? Those are generally kept loaded for obvious reasons. Since it was a carry-on, i'm sort of assuming he keeps his self-defense weapon in a briefcase or something.

Also, TSA agent =/= cop. Cops are trained, are selected from an applicant pool for at least minimal education and intelligence, are trained to prioritize safety, and in general deserve slightly more respect than an actual criminal. TSA agents are the exact opposite on every count.


A. It wasn't a TSA agent, it was a cop. Please read the article.

B. You don't pack a loaded gun while traveling by air. I know people who have taken guns traveling, and there are rules to follow.
 
2011-12-13 02:04:04 AM  

namatad:

DONT get me started on tragedy. Dumbass teen, drives drunk, plows into tree and dies. this is not tragic. this is an expected outcome for being a dumbass.



It is still a tragedy in the Aristotelian sense: our hero is basically decent, but is brought low by a fatal flaw (the fact that he is a dumbass).
 
2011-12-13 02:06:15 AM  

namatad: indeebud: Honestly, who the Hell in their right mind puts a loaded gun in their carry-on baggage these days? Oh ....sorry, my bad... Asshats who need attention. Silly me.

asshat who wanted to go to jail and prison ?
unless he turns out to be a LEO or a son of someone important, then he will get off with some community service


Only if they're the son of a Dutch Diplomat. Or a bleached blonde...
 
2011-12-13 02:19:25 AM  

MattyFridays: Can I ask a serious question?

We have thousands of servicemen and women coming back who know what terrorists are all about. Can you explain to me why they aren't working TSA and are out of work, while someone with half-a-brain and a record is acting like a power hungry douche?


Mostly that.

And because all our soldiers know better than to go anywhere near people who think they know how to handle firearms. They've already done that.
 
2011-12-13 02:22:42 AM  

Lochsteppe: whiterrabbit:

Breakdown:

TSA agents are future henchmen for the antichrist... - Agree

however, no need fire a person for an accident. - Disagree

No criminal intent = No crime. Get back to work. - What is this I don't even


It was early, you are correct...I am spanking myself even now. A person should possibly get fired for an accident if the accident exposes incompetence to perform his/her role to the standards (in this case, the cop has son 'splaining to do). The criminal intent thing only refers to jail-time or capital punishment. I am still trying to process this concept and thought I would try it out. under closer inspection, it seems to simplistic.

Thanks for pointing this out. I learned something from this. Peace!!
 
2011-12-13 02:30:47 AM  

dustman81: I see they don't teach gun handling.

First rule: All guns are ALWAYS loaded
Second rule: booger hook off the bang switch until ready to fire
Third rule: know your target and what is beyond your target
Fourth rule: don't point the muzzle at anything you don't intend to destroy


I learned that before I was 8.
 
2011-12-13 02:32:29 AM  

simkatu: So the headline is wrong. The TSA didn't fire any gun. It was an Atlanta police officer.

Does anyone ever read the articles?


The TSA merely used an officer to fire it by proxy.
 
2011-12-13 02:33:53 AM  

moothemagiccow: Firearms are not allowed in carry-on bags

Thanks, CNN. I also love how the article's passive voice implies that the gun fired on its own.


It does say the gun WAS discharged, rather than that the gun discharged. It does stop well short of saying that the investigating officer discharged the weapon, though.
 
2011-12-13 02:56:21 AM  

Le Geno Vert: $5 sez it's this gun here:

Taurus Model 941 (new window)

.22 magnum, lightweight, modern... and with the Taurus funky security system with a special key needed to enable/disable the trigger and safety lockout... certainly not your average wheelgun - and something a cop or shooter would need some info on to properly safe the weapon...

just drew conclusions from TFA and read between the lines a bit... so I could be wrong...

/views?


Was thinking KT PMR-30.

Then thought, It's this.
www.valefirearms.co.uk
 
2011-12-13 02:58:12 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: Le Geno Vert: $5 sez it's this gun here:

Taurus Model 941 (new window)

.22 magnum, lightweight, modern... and with the Taurus funky security system with a special key needed to enable/disable the trigger and safety lockout... certainly not your average wheelgun - and something a cop or shooter would need some info on to properly safe the weapon...

just drew conclusions from TFA and read between the lines a bit... so I could be wrong...

/views?

Was thinking KT PMR-30.

Then thought, It's this.
[www.valefirearms.co.uk image 640x478]


Oh and the Walther P22 has a key as well.
 
2011-12-13 03:45:16 AM  

dustman81: I see they don't teach gun handling.

First rule: All guns are ALWAYS loaded
Second rule: booger hook off the bang switch until ready to fire
Third rule: know your target and what is beyond your target
Fourth rule: don't point the muzzle at anything you don't intend to destroy


Fifth rule: All guns are ALWAYS loaded.
How does one go incontinent ordnance with a revolver, except by pulling the trigger, cocking the hammer, or being a wizard?
 
2011-12-13 04:10:08 AM  

GGracie: Fifth rule: if you're a TSA agent, point it at your forehead


ALL OF YOU

 
2011-12-13 04:18:13 AM  

farkMcFark: I don't see what the big deal is. Who hasn't done a desk pop?


ahhhh such a good movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948-2Vzgi3w
 
2011-12-13 04:40:46 AM  

Elmo Jones: dustman81: I see they don't teach gun handling.

First rule: All guns are ALWAYS loaded
Second rule: booger hook off the bang switch until ready to fire
Third rule: know your target and what is beyond your target
Fourth rule: don't point the muzzle at anything you don't intend to destroy

Fifth rule: All guns are ALWAYS loaded.
How does one go incontinent ordnance with a revolver, except by pulling the trigger, cocking the hammer, or being a wizard?


I know little about revolvers, but I'm just guessing here he thought he needed to pull the hammer back to release the cylinder, then realized he had the hammer cocked and tried to hold it back while pulling the trigger to let it down slowly so it doesn't strike a round. Which didn't work.

I'm guessing that simply holding it wrongly with one finger on the trigger while pushing on the cylinder release probably wouldn't do it. It's a double-action revolver if the hammer's not cocked and requires significant trigger force and movement to pull the hammer back with the trigger.

Probably just cocked the hammer for no good reason, then tried to let it off and simply failed to do that. AFAIK, if you had the hammer cocked you should just release the cylinder so there's no cartridge in front of it anymore, right?

At least he pointed it at a table... I don't know if it's a "safe" direction, but it's "safe-r".
 
2011-12-13 04:48:43 AM  

moothemagiccow: farkMcFark: I don't see what the big deal is. Who hasn't done a desk pop?

ahhhh such a good movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948-2Vzgi3w


Hadn't heard of it, but I'm about to watch the movie later.
 
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