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RexTalionis

2011-12-12 02:37:08 PM

Only by begetting scores of mortal progeny can you sow the seeds of your resurrection.

SkinnyHead

2011-12-12 02:58:53 PM

Why do they call him anti-gay? The article don't explain

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:00:51 PM

SkinnyHead: Why do they call him anti-gay? The article don't explain

"Johnson ran as a Christian conservative in his 2010 bid for governor, during which he said he was against gay marriage."

The article do explain.

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:06:09 PM

Also, from the linked (new window) article:

"Johnson said publication of the story would make it difficult for him to stay in New Zealand.
"I've been trying to get my wife over here, my family over here ... so I can be around for these children," Johnson said, according to the Herald."

So, he's trying to "be around for these children" but he can't actually acknowledge them publicly? How exactly is that going to work? Was he going to try to be a creepy neighbor?

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:10:49 PM

And from the other linked (new window) article:
"Johnson... said he had told his wife he wanted to act as a sperm donor. The couple had sought counselling shortly after...

Asked if his wife knew he was donating sperm, he said: "She does now."

He said she did not know of any of the pregnancies. He said he had not planned on telling her until the children were born."

There's your "sanctity of traditional marriage," SkinnyHead. Lies and secrets.

Makh

2011-12-12 03:13:06 PM

I remember the old days when politicians used to fark their own people. Now it's all done overseas. I'll bet he has his own offshore bank too. He's Anti-American.

sprawl15

2011-12-12 03:25:07 PM

The gross part is that he just mailed them soggy tissues in regular envelopes.

SkinnyHead

2011-12-12 03:26:08 PM

Theaetetus: SkinnyHead: Why do they call him anti-gay? The article don't explain

"Johnson ran as a Christian conservative in his 2010 bid for governor, during which he said he was against gay marriage."

The article do explain.

Just because someone want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage (one man and one woman) doesn't mean he's anti-gay, does it? It could just mean that he value tradition, that's all.

Le Bomb Suprize

2011-12-12 03:29:19 PM

The suprising part of this story is that there are no pictures or reports of him patronizing a gay bar or hiring a luggage boy. Yet...

Xythero

2011-12-12 03:29:50 PM

couchgnome

2011-12-12 03:29:59 PM

He isn't anti gay. That is a smear. Here in california we have log cabin republicans whom by at least 50% do not believe there is such a thing as "gay marriage". This hardly makes them anti gay.

RexTalionis

2011-12-12 03:30:07 PM

SkinnyHead: Just because someone want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage (one man and one woman) doesn't mean he's anti-gay, does it? It could just mean that he value tradition, that's all.

And that's why segregation isn't racist, because it's tradition.

TRADITION!

Who, day and night, must scramble for a living,
Feed a wife and children, say his daily prayers?
And who has the right, as master of the house,
To have the final word at home?

The Papa, the Papa! Tradition!
The Papa, the Papa! Tradition!

Who must know the way to make a proper home,
A quiet home, a kosher home?
Who must raise the family and run the home,
So Papa's free to read the holy books?

The Mama, the Mama! Tradition!
The Mama, the Mama! Tradition!

At three, I started Hebrew school. At ten, I learned a trade.
I hear they've picked a bride for me. I hope she's pretty.

The son, the son! Tradition!
The son, the son! Tradition!

And who does Mama teach to mend and tend and fix,
Preparing me to marry whoever Papa picks?

The daughter, the daughter! Tradition!
The daughter, the daughter! Tradition!

/I just felt like breaking into song for no reason.

sigdiamond2000

2011-12-12 03:32:01 PM

Other than making sperm donations to 9 women behind his wife's back (several of whom live lifestyles he thinks are wrong), flouting fertility restrictions aimed at cutting down incest, having dinner with one of the women he impregnated, supporting a couple of them financially, planning on moving his family to New Zealand, and not planning on telling them about these news kids until they were born, what has this guy really done that's scandalous?

You libs are such hipocrits. Slick Willie had non-consensual sex with the Oval Office rug and that was just fine and dandy with you.

coeyagi

2011-12-12 03:33:33 PM

On *MM-DD-YYYY Republican X did Y which went against his / her morals Z.

//*MM-DD-YYYY is not any day, it's pretty much every day.

NallTWD

2011-12-12 03:34:08 PM

My brain is full of f**k.

Uzzah

2011-12-12 03:34:36 PM

What a coincidence: I've been anonymously donating sperm to lesbians on the internet for years.

/donating it right into an old sock that I keep under the bed

coeyagi

2011-12-12 03:35:06 PM

Serious Black

2011-12-12 03:35:56 PM

SkinnyHead: Theaetetus: SkinnyHead: Why do they call him anti-gay? The article don't explain

"Johnson ran as a Christian conservative in his 2010 bid for governor, during which he said he was against gay marriage."

The article do explain.

Just because someone want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage (one man and one woman) doesn't mean he's anti-gay, does it? It could just mean that he value tradition, that's all.

And as we all know, tradition has never, ever been wrong even one time in the entire history of existence. That's why we still believe the Earth is the center of the universe and have kept slavery legal.

Jingo Ate Your Baby

2011-12-12 03:36:19 PM

"Reproduction and having children is as basic a human need as eating," he told the Herald.

Nope. I'd trade a kid for cake any day of the week.

max_pooper

2011-12-12 03:36:57 PM

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:37:38 PM

SkinnyHead: Theaetetus: SkinnyHead: Why do they call him anti-gay? The article don't explain

"Johnson ran as a Christian conservative in his 2010 bid for governor, during which he said he was against gay marriage."

The article do explain.

Just because someone want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage (one man and one woman) doesn't mean he's anti-gay, does it? It could just mean that he value tradition, that's all.

I would describe someone who was in favor of anti-miscegenation and reversing Loving v. Virginia as "anti-black"... even though they may couch their argument in terms of "traditional marriage being between two people of the same race".
So, yes, he is anti-gay.

/plus that argument fails - "neither history nor tradition could save a law prohibiting miscegenation from constitutional attack" - Lawrence v. Texas

fracto73

2011-12-12 03:38:18 PM

Jingo Ate Your Baby: "Reproduction and having children is as basic a human need as eating," he told the Herald.

Nope. I'd trade a kid for cake any day of the week.

Do you keep a couple kids in stock or do you have to go find one when someone offers you the cake?

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:39:08 PM

couchgnome: Here in california we have log cabin republicans whom by at least 50% do not believe there is such a thing as "gay marriage".

The Log Cabin Republicans are one of the plaintiffs in the suits against the Defense of Marriage Act... so, myth busted.

Sock Ruh Tease

2011-12-12 03:39:52 PM

SkinnyHead: The article don't explain

SkinnyHead: Just because someone want to preserve

SkinnyHead: It could just mean that he value tradition

whither_apophis

2011-12-12 03:41:01 PM

I was hoping for a Lauren Jackson thread.

/don't know if she's gay or not...

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:41:18 PM

"Bu-bu-bu-but Tradition!" - SkinnyHead

"[H]istory and tradition are the starting point but not in all cases the ending point of the substantive due process inquiry." - SCOTUS, Lawrence v. Texas.

monoski

2011-12-12 03:42:05 PM

coeyagi: SkinnyHead: Theaetetus: SkinnyHead: Why do they call him anti-gay? The article don't explain

"Johnson ran as a Christian conservative in his 2010 bid for governor, during which he said he was against gay marriage."

The article do explain.

Just because someone want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage (one man and one woman) doesn't mean he's anti-gay, does it? It could just mean that he value tradition, that's all.

Yeah, it means preserving the great Christian tradition or denying others rights.

//You are literally too stupid to insult.

I just wanted to make that last quote Vote-able. Anyone is favor of Skinnyhead being to stupid to insult, cast your vote today!

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:42:39 PM

monoski: being to stupid

/facepalm

xanadian

2011-12-12 03:42:56 PM

FAMILY VALUES!!!1 SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE!!1!!

Gotta love a hypocrite.

Keep on being haters, haters. We're always watching. And we'll find you when you fark up.

couchgnome

2011-12-12 03:42:58 PM

Well I am glad this has been brought up!

Talking about a guy running in a major party who is really anti-gay?

Not that it matters becasue he has not won the 3 or 4 times he ran (as a Democrat, which he is) either.

www.lgbtqnation.com

Oh wait.....instead lets talk about this nobody for not believing in gay marriage and pretend he is the bigger bigot.

heh

Highroller48

2011-12-12 03:43:29 PM

I'm shocked and appalled. Everyone knows "Anti-Gay' Xian conservative politicians are only supposed to be "donating" their sperm to young men in public washrooms. I think it's even in the RNC Freshman Guide. No excuse for this breach of protocol.

RexTalionis

2011-12-12 03:44:43 PM

Good show.

Corvus

2011-12-12 03:45:09 PM

So I was kind of thinking "Hey this is unfair them attacking this guy for helping these women out" until I got to:

His wife, Kathy Johnson, said the revelations were "the utmost of betrayal."

Whoops I guess the wife didn't know. Play on!

Jobbers

2011-12-12 03:45:33 PM

He's not anti-gay, he just plays one to win elections.

HotWingConspiracy

2011-12-12 03:45:33 PM

He's giving those kids a shot at being straight!

also:

"This is a really, really difficult time for our family," Kathy Johnson said in an email to the Mobile Press-Register. "I'm still in disbelief and very hurt, and our family has a lot of healing to do."

Not sure how it's a betrayal...probably something you'd want to mention to your wife, but he's not cheating on her or anything.

Koalaesq

2011-12-12 03:47:39 PM

If you're against gay marriage, then you're probably against having kids out of wedlock, since those are both "traditionalist" arguments. Yet by giving your sperm to gay women, you are condoning them have a kid out of wedlock- unless they are gay-married, in which case you are condoning the gay marriage by contributing to their domestic unit. So... either way, you're a hypocrite.

Theaetetus

2011-12-12 03:48:34 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Not sure how it's a betrayal...probably something you'd want to mention to your wife, but he's not cheating on her or anything.

See above - he had mentioned this plan, his wife disagreed, and they were in counseling about it. And then he did it without telling her and wasn't going to tell her until the babies were born... if then.
That's the betrayal... not that he did it, but that knowing she didn't like the idea, he did it in secret.

Mugato

2011-12-12 03:49:11 PM

SkinnyHead: Just because someone want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage (one man and one woman)

I know you're a shameless troll who for some reason gets off on being berated on this site like a Wall Street executive hiring a $10 hooker to beat him with a whip but for anyone who really believes this...

The "traditional" definition of marriage is the arranged pairing of two people who may or may not know each other in the interest of land and property exchange.

So yeah, that's far more noble than two people who happen to be of the same sex who want to have the same rights as the normals.

max_pooper

2011-12-12 03:49:28 PM

HotWingConspiracy: He's giving those kids a shot at being straight!

also:

"This is a really, really difficult time for our family," Kathy Johnson said in an email to the Mobile Press-Register. "I'm still in disbelief and very hurt, and our family has a lot of healing to do."

Not sure how it's a betrayal...probably something you'd want to mention to your wife, but he's not cheating on her or anything.

I can see how fathering multiple children with multiple women, despite the methodology, in secret could be considered betrayal.

Reverend Monkeypants

2011-12-12 03:49:28 PM

This is my surprised face:
"_________"
Notice it's not there.

couchgnome

2011-12-12 03:50:03 PM

Theaetetus: couchgnome: Here in california we have log cabin republicans whom by at least 50% do not believe there is such a thing as "gay marriage".

The Log Cabin Republicans are one of the plaintiffs in the suits against the Defense of Marriage Act... so, myth busted.

Well you appear to be right.
The more conservative member split off over this and a few other issues in 2009. I stand corrected!

d_lebowski

2011-12-12 03:50:11 PM

Corvus

2011-12-12 03:50:23 PM

SkinnyHead: Just because someone want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage (one man and one woman) doesn't mean he's anti-gay, does it? It could just mean that he value tradition, that's all.

Traditional marriage? You mean like how if the husband dies the wife must marry his brother?

Levirate marriage (new window)

You are for those "traditional marriages" to? Or are you just picking and choosing which ones?

couchgnome

2011-12-12 03:52:43 PM

OK so is GOProud anti-gay?

melopene

2011-12-12 03:53:42 PM

Oh wow, I was almost all the way through the article when I noticed the name. I know the wife (or used to, professionally). She's such a lovely and fantastic woman, and I feel terribly sorry for her.

/still hate his politics

xanadian

2011-12-12 03:54:59 PM

Corvus: You are for those "traditional marriages" too? Or are you just picking and choosing which ones?

Welcome to the last several centuries of Christianity. Or, hell, *any* religion. Where not only can the existence of God not be consistently proven, but the application of the dogma isn't even consistently applied.

HotWingConspiracy

2011-12-12 03:55:19 PM

Theaetetus: HotWingConspiracy: Not sure how it's a betrayal...probably something you'd want to mention to your wife, but he's not cheating on her or anything.

See above - he had mentioned this plan, his wife disagreed, and they were in counseling about it. And then he did it without telling her and wasn't going to tell her until the babies were born... if then.
That's the betrayal... not that he did it, but that knowing she didn't like the idea, he did it in secret.

Oh ok. Then yes, betrayal.

gaspode

2011-12-12 03:55:45 PM

HotWingConspiracy:
Not sure how it's a betrayal...probably something you'd want to mention to your wife, but he's not cheating on her or anything.

Actually given this 'informal' sperm donation arrangement, he has probably been donating them with a built in syringe if you take my meaning.. I guess they could be using a turkey-baster..

Doc Daneeka

2011-12-12 03:57:09 PM

Makh: I remember the old days when politicians used to fark their own people. Now it's all done overseas. I'll bet he has his own offshore bank too. He's Anti-American.

These Republicans want to offshore everything. Whatever happened to American pride? There are plenty of home-grown American mistresses looking for work.

couchgnome

2011-12-12 03:59:01 PM

Doc Daneeka: Makh: I remember the old days when politicians used to fark their own people. Now it's all done overseas. I'll bet he has his own offshore bank too. He's Anti-American.

These Republicans want to offshore everything. Whatever happened to American pride? There are plenty of home-grown American mistresses looking for work.

Well he is spreading the seeds of democracy!

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