Complaining that NuWho is "emo and sparkly" - why, this has to be the work of one man.

How you doin', TEM?

Suh ... WEEEEET! I'd given up hope of any more lost episodes ever being found.

/Dear Santa: Now for that missing footage from Logan's Run ... /hope hope pray pray

FirstNationalBastard: Well, Galaxy 4 is unfortunately an orphan episode, but that recovered part of the Troughton serial just might give 'em a reason to animate the two missing parts and put that sucker out on DVD.

Hopefully, although I'd heard that further animation was unlikely, given that it wasn't seen to be profitable.

After all these years, finally an answer to the question: What does a Rill look like?

In case anyone needs eye bleach...

I wear a lionfish now. Lionfish are cool.

mitchcumstein1: Are there people on Fark clamoring for more sparkly and emo things? I have missed those threads.

They're all off cutting themselves in the closet, but will resume clamoring shortly.

cretinbob: more hand colored early images (new window)

Heh. I just watched that serial for the first time last night, and I was like 'heeeeeey Zoe's butt... how you doin?'

Squee!

/why couldn't it have been part 4 of The Tenth Planet though?

So will there be a follow-up story where the BBC sues the guy who had the lost footage?

Well, in perhaps the most ironic way possible, we may be getting the lost WHO episodes back... from SPACE:

Link (new window)

rynthetyn: Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I'm gradually trying to work my way through the early episodes and I keep cursing the BBC for destroying so many of the tapes. This is wonderful.

Back then, tapes were expensive, and they probably figured no one in their right mind would care about Doctor Who this long after the fact. If I remember correctly, the same thing almost happened to Monty Python until one of the Pythons (Gilliam?) paid out of pocket to buy them from the BBC.

I understand the economics and the train of thought at the time, but it's a damn shame that there are older episodes that probably really are lost forever.

href="http://www.fark.com/comments/6806906/73607440#c73607440">CarnySa ur: So will there be a follow-up story where the BBC sues the guy who had the lost footage?

No, that would be silly. Why would they, he should be rewarded. The BBC themselves were the short sighted dummies that destroyed all the missing episodes.

IMDWalrus: Back then, tapes were expensive, and they probably figured no one in their right mind would care about Doctor Who this long after the fact. If I remember correctly, the same thing almost happened to Monty Python until one of the Pythons (Gilliam?) paid out of pocket to buy them from the BBC.

I understand the economics and the train of thought at the time, but it's a damn shame that there are older episodes that probably really are lost forever.

The story is a bit more complex than that; we liberated the magnetic tape technology from the Germans at the end of the War. We figured out how to make the tape machines easy enough, but sorting out how to make the tape was a mystery, so what little there was got used and reused.

When we could make it, we went ti wiping it because that's what we were used to doing and it was expensive. In the US, more stuff survived because it was shot on film due to the time different between the coasts.

It because established policy at the BBC, and idiotically, no one thought to review it until sometime in the 70s When the Python footage came up to be erased in the early 70s, someone in the BBC archive called Gilliam, who said, "Why don't I just buy you a bunch of shiny few video tape and take the old stuff home?" It cost him $1500 to save ALL the Python episodes.

Not only did he save them, but the Pythons own the shows, which is one of the reasons they've all gotten quite rich and many other British TV stars of the era didn't.

Now, what's absolutely unforgivable is this: I was watching one of the Tom Baker serials recently and the director was on the commentary. He said he called the BBC archives and asked to the materials relating to the show. They told him everything but a few basic things (blocking diagrams and shot lists) had been thrown out in the recent past (last twenty years), which meant there were no set or costume design, or any of the other stuff which would make awesome extras on the Who DVDs.

He was, in a reserved English way, exceedingly pissed about this.

CarnySaur: So will there be a follow-up story where the BBC sues the guy who had the lost footage?

No. They have a standing call for any and all tapes, and I think there may even be rewards.

In the 1990s, when the Beatles wanted to put out the recordings they made at the BBC, they called and were told that the tapes had been wiped. And at the time, home-taping was illegal. So the BBC put out an amnesty and asked people to come forward with their tapes; they very quickly got all but three or four songs out of dozens recorded in many different broadcasts.

If home videotape machines had been available before 1966, we'd have all the Who episodes today from home tapers.

Dwight_Yeast: If home videotape machines had been available before 1966, we'd have all the Who episodes today from home tapers.

This is why the RIAA is very, very bad for History.

cretinbob: mitchcumstein1: Are there people on Fark clamoring for more sparkly and emo things? I have missed those threads.

I was sad to find more bronies here than /b/

But this story is good news.

Someone said bronies in a Doctor Who thread?



In all seriousness, I've been watching some of the classic episodes and I have to say that there are some really brilliant writing and performing in a lot of them (I can say that Tomb of the Cybermen, Genesis of the Daleks, and Caves of Androzani are my favorite classics so far).

But I can understand younger fans (that started with the Nu series) not being able to appreciate them as those who have grown up with them. I mean, those episodes where made almost 50 years ago. Kids are dumb... I remember being that dumb...

Hell, being someone who started with the 8th Doctor, I'm not sure of being able to appreciate them at it's full, and I think that they're outstanding!

SilentStrider: the appeal in the old episodes is in the acting and the storytelling, at least for me.

FTFA

/the acting through the entire early series was mindbogglingly awful
//interesting story telling tho

I really do need to check out the first two Doctors... And I wish I could get more of my friends into Old-Who.

I didn't grow up with Doctor Who at all. I just watch so many crappy B-movies that bad special and visual effects don't phase me.

Dwight_Yeast: CarnySaur: So will there be a follow-up story where the BBC sues the guy who had the lost footage?

No. They have a standing call for any and all tapes, and I think there may even be rewards.
You get a Dalek if you find a lost episode. Not some homemade one, a proper used in the show, flashing lights and all Dalek.
A DALEK!
/They are probably aware that sending a Dalek to the house of someone who saved the Doctor is probably risky.
/Remembering the episode of Coupling(I think it was Nightlines and was written by Steven Moffat) where Oliver tried picking up a girl with the news of the latest lost episode find.