There's soccer in the US?

Oh wait sorry

There's "oh no he ran into me, give me a foul *flailing around on the ground in pretend pain*" in the US?

Every day it seems there's a story about how much Americans are falling in love with soccer. I'm a sports fan and I know a lot of sports fans and I don't know a single one that gives a flying fark about soccer. Stop it already.

MLS is actually pretty watchable soccer. I just am not interested myself.

Pyro it depends on where you are. If you don't live on the West Coast, you probably don't know people that care about soccer. On the other hand, all the bars where I am show not only MLS and EPL, but Bundesliga and whatever the Spanish league is called - and people actually know quite a bit about those clubs.

>losing to Basel
>relevant

Pick one.

SilentStrider: Kazan: we always need more teams for the Sounders to stomp :P

as a Union fan I say bring it.

/doop.

socalnewwaver: Hebalo: Also, they don't have to watch sub-par soccer over there.

so very much this. i've been a fan of soccer/football since playing it as a youth and following the new york cosmos. as much as i hope mls becomes a successful and popular league, it hasn't happened yet.

Kazan: as for the americans who watch EPL and shiat on the MLS: fark you elitist pricks. you want a good domestic league to go watch games in person at? then farking support it's growth.

douchenozzle comment false dilemma. it is possible to support its growth, while still recognizing that the quality of the mls is not up to the standards of the major european leagues. i watch and enjoy the premiere league as well as the serie a and ligue 1. the top sides in all of those leagues are light years ahead of the mls. do i hope the mls catches up? absolutely. do i support the mls? absolutely. but anyone who thinks the mls is the same level of quality that you see in the major european clubs is an ethnocentric fool.

I don't think he was saying it was comparable in quality. I think the point was it's possible to like both for their different reasons. I would love to see soccer become big here and if people start with the Premier League and become interested in the MLS we'll take it.

Its not the US's soccer league, its that all the foreigners watch it more, americans don't care and just watch football.

Salaries and talent tend to be strongly correlated.

Salaries and ratings tend to be stongly correlated.

steamingpile: Its not the US's soccer league, its that all the foreigners watch it more, americans don't care and just watch football.

I don't know where you're getting that. I know plenty of Americans who are not immigrants and are hardcore soccer fans.

Hebalo: Also, they don't have to watch sub-par soccer over there.

Firstly, I'll confess, I AM an immigrant (from England, no less) and I enjoy me the shiat out of some EPL soccer. (As well as my beloved Oxford United down there in League Two [League One next season, hopefully])

I do think MLS in general is a terrible soccer league when compared to La Liga, EPL, Bundesliga, Serie A etc. That said, I do enjoy watching the odd DC United game here and there on TV. It's just I don't have the attachment for DC United that I have for Oxford United or my EPL team of choice (Liverpool, until the day Oxford get back up there...) or for the other US pro teams I follow (Redskins, Capitals & Orlando Magic). It's the same issue I have with baseball. I like the Nationals but I don't care about them enough to be considered a fan. I think that might change f I could get to RFK (for MLS) or Nationals park for a game.

It also hasn't helped that DC United have played like foamy dog shiat these last two seasons.

/Oh, and fark Beckham, just because.

Mrtraveler01: steamingpile: Its not the US's soccer league, its that all the foreigners watch it more, americans don't care and just watch football.

I don't know where you're getting that. I know plenty of Americans who are not immigrants and are hardcore soccer fans.

This. Born and raised in the states (Kentucky, no less), and I watch soccer more than any other sports combined.

Kazan: as for the americans who watch EPL and shiat on the MLS: fark you elitist pricks. you want a good domestic league to go watch games in person at? then farking support it's growth.


we always need more teams for the Sounders to stomp :P

If I live in Scranton, do I have to support the Red Barons, and suffer through inferior baseball and am I an Elitist if I prefer MLB baseball? No.

The MLS is garbage. I'd rather watch Argentinean soccer leagues than the MLS.

Have the MLS spend money on real players, not washed up stars and neverhavebeens and I'll watch.

I've also heard that the British American Football League is subpar to it's American counterpart.

I love watching me some Premiership on weekends. I love heading out to Kansas City games during the MLS season. The two don't need to be mutually exclusive.

Kazan: you could at least watch it on tv to increase the ratings because that helps with their income too.

Because everyone has a Nielsen box.

If I really gave a shiat about flopping I wouldn't watch the NBA either. It's part of the game. Deal with it.

Kazan: socalnewwaver: Hebalo: Also, they don't have to watch sub-par soccer over there.

so very much this. i've been a fan of soccer/football since playing it as a youth and following the new york cosmos. as much as i hope mls becomes a successful and popular league, it hasn't happened yet.

Kazan: as for the americans who watch EPL and shiat on the MLS: fark you elitist pricks. you want a good domestic league to go watch games in person at? then farking support it's growth.

douchenozzle comment false dilemma. it is possible to support its growth, while still recognizing that the quality of the mls is not up to the standards of the major european leagues. i watch and enjoy the premiere league as well as the serie a and ligue 1. the top sides in all of those leagues are light years ahead of the mls. do i hope the mls catches up? absolutely. do i support the mls? absolutely. but anyone who thinks the mls is the same level of quality that you see in the major european clubs is an ethnocentric fool.

i have no problem with people who watch both, and i freely acknowledge the other leagues have better players - they're older leagues, pay more, etc.

it's the people who say "i don't watch mls because it sucks" but then watch EPL, etc that piss me off.

MugzyBrown: The MLS is garbage. I'd rather watch Argentinean soccer leagues than the MLS.

Have the MLS spend money on real players, not washed up stars and neverhavebeens and I'll watch.

you're a farking idiot. you cannot afford those players if you don't have viewers. you want a good domestic league? SUPPORT THE LEAGUE. nothing is wron with MLS as it is, it's completely watchable and enjoyable. you want better players? so do i. but I actually get my ass in the stadium and watch the league.

you could at least watch it on tv to increase the ratings because that helps with their income too.

Il ive in georgia. The state, not the country. Am I supposed to be a big DC united fan or what? Honestly I don't blame mls for not having a team around here, it would most definitely fail, but I'll still only watch European leagues cuz I don't have a dog in the fight over here.

Kazan 2011-12-11 02:38:26 PM

a league that is 100 years older and has more teams than ours pays more and has higher viewership you say?

color me shocked


as for the americans who watch EPL and shiat on the MLS: fark you elitist pricks. you want a good domestic league to go watch games in person at? then farking support it's growth.


we always need more teams for the Sounders to stomp :P

As an "elitist prick" I am getting a kick out of these replies. Other than the writer's comment about Wolves and Sunderland being "arguably the two worst teams in the EPL" his article was spot on. The bottom line is the MLS is poor quality and I am sorry if I refuse to invest my time, or money to watch this second rate league. I have tried and for the life I me I cannot suffer through a full game. I am sure at some point next season I will try again, but my expectations are not very high.

Not only will I get up early to watch the EPL, I also enjoy watching the Npower Championship as well.

If I lived in a city with an MLS team, I am sure I would go to a game or two, it looks like a lot of fun. So is going to a minor league baseball game, but I wouldn't watch one on tv.

/loves the espn epl announcers
//a good way to get over a hangover on Saturday morning

Carl Winslow's .9 MM: Il ive in georgia. The state, not the country. Am I supposed to be a big DC united fan or what? Honestly I don't blame mls for not having a team around here, it would most definitely fail, but I'll still only watch European leagues cuz I don't have a dog in the fight over here.

I encourage all soccer fans who are looking for an MLS allegiance to support Portland Timbers. I'm two hours from Crew Stadium and I'd still rather go to a Timbers home match...maybe someday.

/If only they weren't three hours behind...
/Watching Henry v. Beckham in the MLS Cup playoffs was kinda fun, too.

Smelly McUgly: MLS is actually pretty watchable soccer. I just am not interested myself.

Pyro it depends on where you are. If you don't live on the West Coast, you probably don't know people that care about soccer. On the other hand, all the bars where I am show not only MLS and EPL, but Bundesliga and whatever the Spanish league is called - and people actually know quite a bit about those clubs.

Reason #1,456,858 I'm glad I'm from the East Coast.

/I kid, I kid

At least support your local team.

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 268x300]

At least support your local team.

Don't have a local MLS team, so I chose the one with fans i felt most attached to. Philadelphia Union it is

\Doop

Go Dynamo!

socalnewwaver: false dilemma. it is possible to support its growth, while still recognizing that the quality of the mls is not up to the standards of the major european leagues. i watch and enjoy the premiere league as well as the serie a and ligue 1. the top sides in all of those leagues are light years ahead of the mls. do i hope the mls catches up? absolutely. do i support the mls? absolutely. but anyone who thinks the mls is the same level of quality that you see in the major european clubs is an ethnocentric fool.


Missed the point by a farking mile. The statement you responded to asserted that if your ultimate goal is a strong domestic league with top shelf talent then you must patronize that league since, without fans supporting it with their wallets, it will never develop to that point.

The fact that you misconstrued that statement to be an assertion that MLS is on par with the EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, or Eredivisie just means you're the foolish one.

Ishkur: Pyro Messiah: Every day it seems there's a story about how much Americans are falling in love with soccer. I'm a sports fan and I know a lot of sports fans and I don't know a single one that gives a flying fark about soccer. Stop it already.

That's because you are white, and it's likely that all your friends are white too.

More to the point, you are a white, long-haired male with an Iron Cross tattoo on your arm. Not that I'm implying anything, but that is pretty white.

Soccer is really huge with America's growing ethnic community -- especially hispanics, eastern and southern europeans. So that's why.

Putting aside your race baiting, I'm not only talking about friends. Even at sports bars I never, ever see people watching soccer or talking about it. I did see a guy with a DC United jersey on though a few days ago. That was a first.

socalnewwaver: ethnocentric


Almost forgot that "ethnocentric" doesn't mean what you think it means. Xenophobic would have been a better choice.

Kazan: you're a farking idiot. you cannot afford those players if you don't have viewers. you want a good domestic league? SUPPORT THE LEAGUE. nothing is wron with MLS as it is, it's completely watchable and enjoyable. you want better players? so do i. but I actually get my ass in the stadium and watch the league.

So I should spend money on what I feel is an inferior product? You want to waste your money, fine by me, but don't give me your self righteous BS and tell me I should do the same. And yes I have watched a few MLS games but in general they have bored the fark out of me compared to EPL games. Deal with it.

Kazan: as for the americans who watch EPL and shiat on the MLS: fark you elitist pricks. you want a good domestic league to go watch games in person at? then farking support it's growth.

This.

error 303: I love watching me some Premiership on weekends. I love heading out to Kansas City games during the MLS season. The two don't need to be mutually exclusive.

That.

I don't have cable, but I'm forever grateful to ESPN for ESPN3.com. Sometimes it's a bummer when they don't show better Premiership clubs on Saturday mornings (my favorite team's appearances always seem to coincide with the weekends I work). Also like to watch MLS whenever they have their game of the week on. It's not necessarily a bad thing for MLS that the Premiership pulls higher ratings; it could just mean that now, more than ever before, soccer fans in this country have a plethora of choices before them with something as simple as cable or satellite service or even just an internet connection.

Now for my rant about the MLS: what's up with the conferences? And, specifically, how teams are selected for the playoffs? I understand you probably don't want the entire east coast getting shut out of the playoffs, but since every team plays the exact same schedule, shouldn't every team have the same odds of making the playoffs? Four teams in the Western Conference finished ahead of Sporting KC in the race for the Supporters' Shield. Yet KC clinched home-field in the first two rounds, while Dallas, who finished one point better than the Eastern Conference winners, actually had to play in the "wild card" round. If the four worst teams to make the playoffs would have been forced to play in the wild card series, Philadelphia and Houston wouldn't have had their byes, and both Colorado and Dallas would have had those extra few days off. I'm sure Dallas, in particular, would have enjoyed the opportunity to not lose in the play-in round after having finished with the fourth-best record in the league because of some arbitrary decision to divide up the teams.

As such, the playoff rankings would be 1-6 (bye) & 7-10 (play-in round) rather than, in the instance of this year, 1, 5, 2, 7, 3, 8 (overall rankings of teams with byes), 4, 6, 9, 10 (play-in round teams).

/end rant

EPL is the premiership for a reason

my team unfortunately is in the npower this year, but near the top of the table, so there's hope for next year...

I'll support/watch Philly, being from Pennsy It's kinda the home team... I'll even go see Man U if they come back for a dig here...

America is slowly but surely accepting footy, mostly due to so many kids playing at their schools...

with that said "F MAN U, COYI!!!"

Kazan: a league that is 100 years older and has more teams than ours pays more and has higher viewership you say?

color me shocked


as for the americans who watch EPL and shiat on the MLS: fark you elitist pricks. you want a good domestic league to go watch games in person at? then farking support it's growth.


we always need more teams for the Sounders to stomp :P

As an American who grew up in Europe and have been following Euro football for over 35 years, I could give a rat's ass if the U.S. ever has a top flight league or even seriously competes for the World Cup. My loyalties have been set in stone since 1974. Why would I watch a shiat product just because it's local? And why would I change loyalties anyway? There's already far more good football then there is time to watch it as it is. Say 6 EPL games, 4 Championship, 4 Bundesliga, 4 La Liga, 4 Serie A, maybe an occasional French ,Dutch, Scottish or Argentinian game thrown in. That doesn't even count Champion's League, Europa league, F.A. Cup, Copa Del Ray, German League Cup, Carling Cup, Euro 2012, or farking Comnebol qualifiers. I could watch 5 games a day and still not see all the matches I want to see, why the fark would I want to squeeze the podunk B.S. that's MLS in there as well?

Im moving to Columbus in July and plan on going to as many Crew games as I can. The last one I went to was a lot of fun, despite the fact that it was a mid-day August game in Ohio which meant it was 95 and 100% humidity. I think Ill pick evening games from now on though.

Ive considered getting season tickets, and may do so if I can meet some friends who want to get some seats together.

The MLS is a great value if you want to get outside and watch a sporting event. The Crew even has dollar beer nights and dollar brat nights.

Ive found that soccer has overtaken baseball in my list of things I would watch on TV too. I am pained sitting through an entire baseball game, even in the playoffs, but will gladly sit and watch a soccer game of any league. Ive even watched a few WPS games.