I can't think of a more miserable existence. Cramped, dirty, cold, hot, smelly, pollution, pissed-off commuters, idiots, disease.

Oh and you can hurt your back lifting the bags of money.

R.A.Danny: I don't get why people are so worried about what other people make. Worry about yourself and myob.


Because it is like this.

No one pays for my health insurance, my days off, my vacation, my pension and all that good stuff but I have to pay for theirs. And then pay them a better salary on top of it.

It's my money so it is my business and I will say anything I want to about it.

wow they get paid for overtime? what an outrage!!

R.A.Danny: Rich Cream: No one pays for my health insurance, my days off, my vacation, my pension and all that good stuff but I have to pay for theirs. And then pay them a better salary on top of it.

Get a better gig. What you make is your responsibility.

Also, you can look up the salary of any public employee, but you get upset only when it hits the news?

I didn't biatch about how much I make; and I am annoyed all the time, not just when it's fashionable.

I had regretted the preachy middle part of my rant. I should have just stuck to:

"It's my money so it is my business."

RodneyToady:
That's the thing: you need a certain amount of toll collectors to keep the systems operating efficiently.

Kill the beast.

so complaining about CEO's getting millions in bonuses despite running their companies in the ground is class warfare?
but complaining about people getting paid for the hours they actually work isn't?

this is just more of the Murdoch empire stoking envy amongst their base who don't make 80k a year with overtime.
Just another instance of the divisive nature of his media machine.
Tearing the middle class apart. having them fight amongst themselves. so they don't pay attention to who is really emptying their pockets.

Rich Cream: RodneyToady:
That's the thing: you need a certain amount of toll collectors to keep the systems operating efficiently.

Kill the beast.

yeah just quit taking tolls and let the roads and bridges repair themselves.
I'm sure the generous corporations in their benevolence will pay for it.

Hobodeluxe: Rich Cream: RodneyToady:
That's the thing: you need a certain amount of toll collectors to keep the systems operating efficiently.

Kill the beast.

yeah just quit taking tolls and let the roads and bridges repair themselves.
I'm sure the generous corporations in their benevolence will pay for it.


It's a tough situation I agree. I am well aware the differences between driving a road like the GSP as opposed to 287 and the benefits of paying more to drive that road. But that gets into privilege issues which isn't where the gov't should be. And you know damn well they can make up that lost revenue with other taxes once you remove salaries and pensions from the equation.

R.A.Danny: NFA: Why are you biased against civil servants?

I never get that. If the public sector wants quality employees they need to offer competitive packages.


It's a bit over-competitive for the skill set required.

There was a time when people wanted gov't jobs, not for the salary, gov't pay sucked, but the benefits and job security were par none. Couldn't find that anywhere else in private business. Then businesses started offering packages like those and the argument was made that gov't needed to be more salary competitive to attract capable people. Which is bullshiat in itself.

Times change and the cycle has turned. We're back at the beginning.

R.A.Danny: Rich Cream: It's a bit over-competitive for the skill set required.

They're paying for misery in this case.


refer to my first boobies. ;)

$80-100k is barely upper middle class (e.g. the top 80%), and in New York unless they are heavy commuters it is probably more like middle-middle class. [1]

If middle class wages had not stagnated since about 1980, pretty much every working stiff with a Toll Booth operator sort of job would be making $80-100k. Instead that extra $40-60k went your corporate overlords and the parasitic financial industry that has spawned since then. I am sure the extra fancy wood grain interior in their third Bentley that is garaged somewhere in Connecticut which was purchased with that money is better spent.

[1]http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2010/tables/10s0678.pdf

R.A.Danny: Rich Cream: R.A.Danny: Rich Cream: It's a bit over-competitive for the skill set required.

They're paying for misery in this case.


refer to my first boobies. ;)

Exactly what I meant.


There's also the inducement to avoid stealing of course. Like the salary of the guy who collects coins from pay phones.

slayer199: You may have a beef with their base pay of $60k, but you can't biatch about a guy willing to work $40k in overtime (or 20 hours of OT a week). Good for him.

Really though, if the state has to allow that much overtime...maybe they should hire someone else?

I'm pretty sure OT is more affordable than a new employee. Up to a point of course.

A horse is a horse.

You should see who gets the contracts to build the bridges, toll booths.

Britney Spear's Speculum: You should see who gets the contracts to build the bridges, toll booths.


Twenty years ago I worked for the stone company that provided the facade for the Holland Tunnel collection building. I drew every piece of stone and flame-cut letter. btw the granite was cut and shipped from Italy. Only the best of course.

The most fascinating thing (I thought) was that there iss a conveyor belt that is running under the toll booths to remove the far-too-large-to-carry bags of money over to the counting room and vault.

CruiserTwelve: Hey Subby, did you know that in NYC there are guys that make millions for playing baseball?

this

and they suck at it, too.

unyon: What kills me is that you guys are taking sides and beating yourselves up over an inefficient and illogical way to fund road maintenance. That shiatty system was the result of compromises that had to be made because people took sides and beat each other up.

The startling lack of pragmatism in US decision making is dumbfounding, frankly.


Rich Cream: Kill the beast.

Yes, yes, it's the toll-takers we need to be pissed at for the current crisis. Thanks NY Post for reminding us what a right wing shiat rag you are.

How much did the banksters that trashed the economy make ?

Toll takers sure didn't do anything that monumentally destructive. Something tells me the NY post has an ax to grind.

Look its another contrived outrage thread about how much money other people make.

If I had to do that job, dogdamn right you better pay me.

I don't get it. Aren't we always saying how teachers, firemen, other public employees, etc... should be more well-compensated? Yet we also biatch when we find out that they're well-compensated? Durr? Durr.

And they only had to average 60 hours a week to do it. Those slackers!