I wonder if there's any mechanism for a car being reported stolen to be cross-checked with the impound lot. I had my car mistakenly towed once and I thought it was car theft so I call the cops.

I shaved my penis this morning. Now I'm cold.

City tow car. City auction car. City profit on the interest earned on the "where is that owner to collect their undisclosed refund".

/Theft is theft, even if the city made a law to be able to steal parked vehicles and then auction them for profit.
//Or the cops make a law to be able to steal and auction cars in the name of "drug profits bought this car(or house), even though no evidence has been submitted to a Judge to be able to legally seize the car".
///I spit on the sidewalk too, wanna make a big deal of it tough guy.....
////Come at me Bro....

Weaver95: Asked if that was sufficient notice, given that no one has claimed the money this year, St. Paul Assistant Police Chief Kathleen Wuorinen said yes.

"I'm very comfortable with the procedures and policies we have in place," she said Friday. "I can't speculate on why people wouldn't step forward and claim this money


f*ck you lady. you are the reason nobody trusts cops and/or city governments anymore.


So if an unarmed man walks up to a woman on the street in St. Paul and says "Give me your purse!", and she complies, the man is not guilty of "Mugging" because the woman could have said "no"???

Solution:
Tow all cop cars. Sell for profit.

Living in a progressive wonderland.

the_chief: I shaved my penis this morning. Now I'm cold.

If there's hair growing out of your shaft then you should see a doctor. That's not normal.

Do you work in a Rogaine factory or something?

Kumana Wanalaia: the_chief: I shaved my penis this morning. Now I'm cold.

If there's hair growing out of your shaft then you should see a doctor. That's not normal.

Do you work in a Rogaine factory or something?

What if the hair is growing out of moles on the shaft? Is that something to be concerned about?

CruiserTwelve: Why did a 2008 Lexus go unclaimed over a bill of $1,135.61?

Suspect still in custody awaiting trial?

the_chief: I shaved my penis this morning. Now I'm cold.


Thats gonna start itching like hell in a couple of days.

Have fun.

CruiserTwelve: For example, on April 7, the city auctioned a blue 2008 Lexus for $12,750. The city was owed $120.53 for towing the vehicle, $960 for just over two months of storage, plus a $55.08 administration fee and taxes. Total bill: $1,135.61.

Why did a 2008 Lexus go unclaimed over a bill of $1,135.61?

a criminal owned the car?

Kumana Wanalaia: the_chief: I shaved my penis this morning. Now I'm cold.

If there's hair growing out of your shaft then you should see a doctor. That's not normal.

Do you work in a Rogaine factory or something?

What, are you the normal police now? You gonna impound my wang?

Same happened in Minneapolis a few months ago. I give St. Paul about a week before they announce new notification policies.

Weaver95: Asked if that was sufficient notice, given that no one has claimed the money this year, St. Paul Assistant Police Chief Kathleen Wuorinen said yes.

"I'm very comfortable with the procedures and policies we have in place," she said Friday. "I can't speculate on why people wouldn't step forward and claim this money


f*ck you lady. you are the reason nobody trusts cops and/or city governments anymore.

Agreed, but dammit that Jeep Liberty woman and the Lexus owner should, in my opinion, have done a little more due diligence with regard to what to do with their vehicles.

Hate to break it to you folks, but it wasn't the road officers or even the judges who made this call. It was the city bureaucrats. Regular old politicians that people vote for. The kind that would never do anything that's not in our best interests. The cops may be impounding vehicles (something they're supposed to do), but the people looking the bills of sale and keeping the money in the city coffers are the city administrators. Government workers. An honest bunch.

CruiserTwelve: Cars held as evidence in criminal cases can't be auctioned off. The other issues are civil and I don't see why the sheriff would be involved in selling the seized items.

You may not know this but it snows here in Minnesota. And cars are towed frequently so that snow plows can do their thing. If you can't pay the fine - they sell the car.

If this was done by an individual I believe it would be called something like Theft, and Fraud, wouldnt it????
......If this is the case im thinking there are gonna be a number of lawsuits coming down the pipe

***Any legal lawyery types out there got any idea how this might play out???***

CruiserTwelve: ZAZ: CruiserTwelve

The car seizures followed lawsuits to collect small amounts of credit card debt, on the order of $1,000 before interest and fees. Self help is only allowed for repos. To satisfy a court judgment you need to use the sheriff.

I've never heard of a creditor being able to seize someone's property unless they had a lien on it. Interesting.

Same here.

Get behind on a credit card and they send the Sheriff out to seize your car and auction it off once they get a judge to sign for it? No lien on the car, just a judgment for a few thousand dollars in a civil suit?

I'd never seen any creditor just go after people's possessions like that. . .especially for a ~$1000 credit card debt. That would be more to the scale of a write-off and a bad mark on the credit report in my experience.

Unless things have changed recently, most banks don't even bother with legal process for credit card debts under ~$5,000 dollars, they just put a black mark on the credit report, hit them hard and fast with collection calls and letters, and eventually just send it off to a debt collector to become zombie debt.

the_chief:
I shaved my penis this morning. Now I'm cold.

DeathfroggThats gonna start itching like hell in a couple of days.
Have fun.


You know, I'm sure she is not gonna be happy to hear, nope not one bit.
....I kid.....I kid..

Now here is a good question. During snow emergecies in AWESOME city of ST Paul, MN how much time do they give people who are parked on the street to move their vehicle before they send the city approved fleet of tow trucks in to hook on to the family truxster and put it up for auction?

/lived in MN for a little while
//didn't lose anything there so no real need to go back
/// Jesse Ventura still best damn Governer

Teen Wolf Blitzer: I wonder if there's any mechanism for a car being reported stolen to be cross-checked with the impound lot. I had my car mistakenly towed once and I thought it was car theft so I call the cops.

It IS (legalized) car theft. I can see having to tow, and having to clear out long-unclaimed cars to make room. But this looks a lot like taking property without due process. They should be required to at least try to reunite the car with its owner first by towing it to the address of the registered owner and leaving it in the driveway.

/maybe without tags, if greedy. They can melt the tags, and use the internet to notify the DMV to collect the city's fines in addition to the tag charge when the owner applies for replacements.

jmr61: I can't imagine why the people of St. Paul would put up with that from their government.

Because it's too farking cold to go outside?

DECMATH: Teen Wolf Blitzer: I wonder if there's any mechanism for a car being reported stolen to be cross-checked with the impound lot. I had my car mistakenly towed once and I thought it was car theft so I call the cops.

It IS (legalized) car theft. I can see having to tow, and having to clear out long-unclaimed cars to make room. But this looks a lot like taking property without due process. They should be required to at least try to reunite the car with its owner first by towing it to the address of the registered owner and leaving it in the driveway.

/maybe without tags, if greedy. They can melt the tags, and use the internet to notify the DMV to collect the city's fines in addition to the tag charge when the owner applies for replacements.


There's no money in that method.

I know that Sheriffs' Sales are a big thing in certain states - but I'm unsure why the duty of securing and selling the personal assets of an individual fall to them. I remember seeing ads all the time when living in Ohio - everything from houses and contents to tools, boats, equipment, etc. was listed for auction at these sales.

In any case, it's a travesty when any government agency hides behind the 'letter of the law' - or in this case, some sections of the municipal or state code - and then smugly declares itself comfortable that the citizenry has all the notice and information that it needs regarding their rights and the consequences of not exercising them.

It's a loophole in a system that relies squarely on the citizen not knowing what their rights and responsibilities are under the law - and it's clearly being exploited for purely financial motives.

As someone else mentioned above, it's a perfect example of why people don't trust their government, their police or the other agencies that seem perfectly "comfortable" with the status quo.

It's a farking travesty.

Le Geno Vert: I know that Sheriffs' Sales are a big thing in certain states - but I'm unsure why the duty of securing and selling the personal assets of an individual fall to them. I remember seeing ads all the time when living in Ohio - everything from houses and contents to tools, boats, equipment, etc. was listed for auction at these sales.

In any case, it's a travesty when any government agency hides behind the 'letter of the law' - or in this case, some sections of the municipal or state code - and then smugly declares itself comfortable that the citizenry has all the notice and information that it needs regarding their rights and the consequences of not exercising them.

It's a loophole in a system that relies squarely on the citizen not knowing what their rights and responsibilities are under the law - and it's clearly being exploited for purely financial motives.

As someone else mentioned above, it's a perfect example of why people don't trust their government, their police or the other agencies that seem perfectly "comfortable" with the status quo.

It's a farking travesty.

I'm okay with Sherriff's sales, in general. But to the point of the article: the original owners should be found and, assuming they're not doing time, presented with the difference between their sales price and legitimate fines and fees. For any property, that's anyone who's got a lien/mortgage on the property getting paid after fees are subtracted, then the original owners.

If they're in jail after being convicted, meh. Too bad.

How's that ownership thing working out for you folx? Sure is nice to live in a free country isn't it? Where as a citizen you have equal protection under the law.....

/can't believe we all fell for it....