Gingrich - not nearly as clever as he thinks.

Then again, this is true for all politicians, so perhaps we should just get rid of all of them....

Truly, he is the epitome of a diplomat...

Those are hallmarks of a GOP front runner.

Apparently 3500 years of history (new window) is an invention.

/dumbass

DarwiOdrade: Apparently 3500 years of history (new window) is an invention.

Remember, Gingrich's doctorate was on modern Belgian educational policy in Africa. Don't expect him to have access to anything before the end of the Ottoman Empire.



Also, if you quote in him in context, you're promulgating falsehoods and he will sue you for defamation.

Gingrich doubled down on his 'invented people' comment during last night's debate. I wouldn't call it bravery, but he's sticking to his guns come what may.

Incidentally, Americans are an 'invented people'. we didn't exist until we all got kicked out of all the decent countries in europe and came to this continent and invented the United States.

Weaver95: Gingrich doubled down on his 'invented people' comment during last night's debate. I wouldn't call it bravery, but he's sticking to his guns come what may.

And Ron Paul gave him some cover when he agreed that what Newt said was "Technically Correct" - in other words, Newt made a factual but not so diplomatic statement.


Incidentally, Americans are an 'invented people'. we didn't exist until we all got kicked out of all the decent countries in europe and came to this continent and invented the United States.

Correct, which is why during the Revolution we sent people over seas to France, and other countries *begging* them to recognize it as a Country. It took more than just the revolutionaries standing up and shouting "Hey, lookie here, we're Americans, not British Colonials!" for it to become recognized. Even then, after the war, it was very fragile what Washington did to preserve it inevitably lead to his leaving the presidency while many toasted in pubs to a speedy death for him while effigies of his likeness burned.

Point being, Newt was right.

CanisNoir: Point being, Newt was right.

yet somehow I don't think Newt (and by extention the GOP) really wants to be comparing Palestine to the Founding Fathers tho. that would make a lot of Republicans feel like history is touching them in a bad place.

Weaver95: yet somehow I don't think Newt (and by extention the GOP) really wants to be comparing Palestine to the Founding Fathers tho. that would make a lot of Republicans feel like history is touching them in a bad place.

Well, there are some *major* differences, mainly the initial revolutionaries never went and killed innocent Royalist kids at random. There was some tar and feathering going on, which doesn't speak well for the movement, but the vast majority of those people lived to tell the tale, while people hit with a lobbed missile don't have that luxury.

oldebayer: Then again, are those good points enough to get him elected?

I don't know about that, but they're certainly proof enough that he's the man for the GOP nomination.

What country ISNT "invented" ?

vernonFL: What country ISNT "invented" ?

I don't think anyone's asked Gingrich that question.

Weaver95: vernonFL: What country ISNT "invented" ?

I don't think anyone's asked Gingrich that question.

He'd probably respond by saying that the US isn't. God created us and made us the shining light on the hill to the res tof the world. Or some nonsense like that.

CanisNoir: Point being, Newt was right.

Uh, no.

GAT_00: Uh, no.

I'm not going to argue with you today, I've been enjoying Covert Affairs too much to ruin it now :D

Weaver95: that would make a lot of Republicans feel like history is touching them in a bad place.

I giggled. Some of your best work methinks.

CanisNoir: GAT_00: Uh, no.

I'm not going to argue with you today, I've been enjoying Covert Affairs too much to ruin it now :D

Haha. Fair enough. Glad you like it.

Give Newt an enema and we could bury him in a thimble.

I wish somebody would point out to old Newt that by his reasoning "Americans" are a made up people also; and a lot more "made up" than "Palestineans" at that.

/ Just saying

lilbjorn: Watching the Newt Gingrich bio?

Nope, Piper Perabo.

Corvus: This was a retarded thing to say. Newt is a glib idiot.

Speaking of glib idiots, I see you've decided to crawl out from the basement. Care to point out how I was wrong or are you just content to sit there and fling your own feces like normal?

WizardofToast: "I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people who are in fact Arabs, and who were historically part of the Arab community," said Gingrich. "And they had a chance to go many places, and for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s, and it's tragic."

I don't care if you live here! You have other places to go! There's a world out there! Now get lost!

Andrew Jackson would have loved to have Newt. I'm also tired of the "No such things as Palestinians" argument. People were living in Israel's territory before it became an official country. It wasn't like there was a giant sign saying "DO NOT TRESSPASS. FUTURE ISRAEL TERRITORY." and it was just left deserted.

It's not like the Arabs are panethnic. It's not like there are varying nationalities within said people. Much like in America where we talk about the "whites." Or say "Latinos." There is a link between Arabs and language, but then again, that would be sort of like arguing that Australians, Brits, Canadians and Americans are all the same people, because we are separated by our shared language.

Trying to link the Arabs as all being alike, sort of dismisses the fact that despite a shared cultural link thanks to the Arabic diaspora, that all Arabs shed identity of nation, or heritage. Ask the Maghrebi how well they are considered Arabs compared to those nearer to the Mecca. It's not as if in this stew of ethnicities that have been united by a culture that has spread and rolled folks into the mix don't have their differences...

Women are invented people. They were made from dirt, breath and ribs.

CanisNoir: Nope, Piper Perabo.

Is it just me, or is the idea of a blind womanizer hilarious?

Corvus: CanisNoir: GAT_00: Uh, no.

I'm not going to argue with you today, I've been enjoying Covert Affairs too much to ruin it now :D

Translation: You showed I am wrong so I am going to make an excuse and run away.

That's not really his style, that's a randommotherf*cker tactic. Bet he comes back and changes the subject and/or moves the goalpost.

Getting back to the amphibian, he's just trying to court the Jewish vote by showing how much he loves Israel (unlike Obama who wants to drive the Jews into the sea).